Holy smokes.....404.3 RWHP!?!?!!? [Archive]

dippin

12-19-2003, 01:48 PM

Do you fellas remember Kromex's turbo application? I went to the ATPTurbo website to check up on his progress and saw this:

<br><img src="http://www.atpturbo.com/root//monstermate/images/bmw3ser/bmw_e46turbo.gif" border="0">

404.3 RWHP!!!!! Un-fukkin-believable.

rkaufman

12-19-2003, 01:52 PM

that is A W E S O M E ! ! !

srn1985

12-19-2003, 01:55 PM

WOW....That is pretty damn good...anybody got a list of all his mods?

Jack_Smackus

12-19-2003, 01:56 PM

How much?

dippin

12-19-2003, 02:01 PM

It says $4999 on the website. Go to www.atpturbo.com.

SL500

12-19-2003, 02:06 PM

damn!!!!! !!! !!! !!! 404rwhp

ilovebmw

12-19-2003, 02:07 PM

**** bye bye lil is300 lol

hsk73

12-19-2003, 02:14 PM

So, it's available now? :yikes:

Tenchi

12-19-2003, 02:15 PM

actual hp for M3 is 273?

Kain

12-19-2003, 02:19 PM

DAMN!

Cuore_alfa

12-19-2003, 02:21 PM

A LA MIERDA!!!

Chocaine

12-19-2003, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by 10chi
actual hp for M3 is 273?
to the wheels.

RichP

12-19-2003, 02:31 PM

All Im saying is...that is FAR from a bolt on $5K turbo kit to make that kind of power..

regardless, at any cost, its damn impressive.

JimBOT

12-19-2003, 04:47 PM

Time to start saving up :D

Solid

12-19-2003, 05:00 PM

John from jersey

12-19-2003, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by RichP
All Im saying is...that is FAR from a bolt on $5K turbo kit to make that kind of power..

regardless, at any cost, its damn impressive.

say:werd:

Clem

12-19-2003, 05:09 PM

From what I gather the 404 HP is stage 2.

http://www.atpturbo.com/root/navigation/vehicles.htm

link says Stg1 on a 330 is 350 HP

FredS

12-19-2003, 05:12 PM

<Looks in wallet..>
"Damn, not enough at the moment. Must save for a bit" ;)

dan330

12-19-2003, 05:13 PM

very good for a turbo!

But his stock 330 has impress # too. 225 down to 207
The stock M3 seams low. 333 down to 273

What gives?

Clem

12-19-2003, 05:18 PM

The REAL question now is: Is the Stg2 $5K over the price of the Stg1 or can you go stright to Stg2 for $5k?

Case and point AA Stg3 turbo kit for E36 is $10K+

bmwti

12-19-2003, 05:20 PM

Is anyone else impressed with the 330's stock figures??

almost 208 rwhp equates to more than the claimed 225 hp at the crank.

Cuore_alfa

12-19-2003, 05:22 PM

BMW E46 350 HP Intercooled STAGE I $3995.00

BMW E46 404 HP Intercooled STAGE II $4995.00 ???

dippin

12-19-2003, 05:38 PM

I called to clarify the pricing and the $4995 will be for the entire Stage 2 kit. They're not offering Stage 1.

dan330

12-19-2003, 05:41 PM

wow. nice. need to see about next XMas. Have to be a very good boy next year. :)

dan330

12-19-2003, 05:43 PM

Need to see more pics. Please. Anyone????

snorl3x

12-19-2003, 05:48 PM

ive seen around 275 to the wheels for the m3 everywhere. that seems to be the number that the car puts out. car and driver said there was a problem with dynoing the m3 though. they said that on the dyno, since the front wheels arent rotating as well, the car doesnt give out 100 percent. dont really recall what they said actually.

Cuore_alfa

12-19-2003, 06:21 PM

humm maybe 340 RWHP for a 323 STAGE II :pimpin:

K-DOG

12-19-2003, 06:30 PM

Does anyone know if the stock drivetrain can handle (400rwhp=500hp at the flywheel) that much power?(clutch excluded)

Clem

12-19-2003, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by K-DOG
Does anyone know if the stock drivetrain can handle (400rwhp=500hp at the flywheel) that much power?(clutch excluded)

No way the clutch will. Start looking ar Carbon/Kevlar dual friction clutch assemblies.

fasteddie

12-19-2003, 06:34 PM

dang! 5k seems way cheap! :)
especially for 200+ HP gain???
only $25 per hp gain? way cheaper than exhausts/intakes/etc. ;)

CWE46

12-19-2003, 06:46 PM

What is his fuel setup?

That is impressive. I think once people start figuring out how to reliably manage fuel/timing either via a standalone or piggyback, we will start seeing a lot more FI kits available. :)

e_one09

12-19-2003, 06:52 PM

The number looks impressive.

WarSong

12-19-2003, 06:55 PM

holy... :wowee:

russ330

12-19-2003, 06:56 PM

:evil: Damn I hope this kit sees the light of day. If those numbers are what the kit will put down, I may be able to give my Dad a run for his money in his modded 'Vette. :mischief: As it stands I may be able to pull in a decent amount of 'additional' money 'bout time the next 18 months are up. :pimpin:

mfspolo

12-19-2003, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by Clem

No way the clutch will. Start looking ar Carbon/Kevlar dual friction clutch assemblies.

:werd:...remember that vid he had and he said something about getting a new clutch cause it was slippin or something:dunno:

Nt_loader

12-19-2003, 07:47 PM

Anyone want to buy an ASA SK I at a very good price?

devGOD

12-19-2003, 09:11 PM

ok that's my next MOD hehe =) i want a first place trophy next year so SC here i come

Yellowmann

12-19-2003, 09:20 PM

Ok this does sound great in gains and price but my question is: will the ECU need to be program for this setup?

kjgarreau

12-19-2003, 09:53 PM

Just an fyi, ATP has less than a stellar track record on vwvortex.com and audiworld.com - search around there. The weak link is their software, and personally, I would rather have a more conservative setup in my car, than risk blowing sh!t up because of some bad programming...

I'm not saying ATP's kit is bad, but you cannot neglect their past history of troublesome software. That being said, I hope this kit works out for anyone planning on purchasing it.

I'd look around on the vortex and audiworld first. By the time I'm ready to stage 3 my car, unless quite a few people have had nothing but success with their ATP kits, I won't even consider it over APR's kit. My $.02

xS3x

12-19-2003, 09:57 PM

interesting..:yikes:

kjgarreau

12-19-2003, 10:01 PM

Originally posted by Yellowmann
Ok this does sound great in gains and price but my question is: will the ECU need to be program for this setup?

Fuel maps, a/f ratios, timing will all change with the introduction of a f/i setup, I think you will see a software change with this, yes.

The dyno sheet shows over 400hp and 380 ft-lbs of torque to the wheels. On a 330, which is rated somewhere around... 230, yes? To the wheels say around 200, so... this thing is going to be whooping up on your drivetrain. I wouldn't even drive the car without a new clutch in there, I'd give it 5 good launches and that thing is toast.

.... if I had money and time to soak into my car, I might try the kit... but that is a LOT of horsepower. Streetable, yes (your spool times aren't until around 4000 RPM's)... but man. I'd want a reliability test first!

SiLvaC32

12-19-2003, 10:03 PM

impressive..... but i wonder how the car will run?? as it stated, it did not have a reprogrammed ECU, how will the car idle? is it a pratical street car?

very impressive numbers though! =O

K-DOG

12-19-2003, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by Clem

No way the clutch will. Start looking ar Carbon/Kevlar dual friction clutch assemblies.

Thats why I said clutch excluded(it obviously needs to be changed). I am saying will the tranny/driveshaft/etc be able to handle that kind of hp?(150% increase)

SDpnoy

12-19-2003, 10:49 PM

:yikes:

KromeX

12-20-2003, 07:03 PM

It's taken me almost 2 years to get to this point and it seems to have paid off. Driving the car is an exhilerating experience to say the least.

The only things besides the Stage II Kit I have modified on my car is a B&B Triflo muffler and an upgraded clutch and flywheel. The stock clutch will not handle this amount of power. In a car like this, the stock clutch will probably last at most 5 minutes before it starts slipping. I went overkill on my clutch setup with a Stage IV in anticipation of more torque in the future. I have been doing extensive reliability testing and that is why this kit has been in development for so long. I have been refining the software and the car idles just fine.

K-DOG

12-20-2003, 07:08 PM

Kromex, I (among many) am confused about the pricing. Is it 4999 for stage 2, or 3999+4999 for stage 2???
Thanks in advance.

Ci FLY

12-20-2003, 07:18 PM

wow i love turbos. id go for a turbo setup over an sc anyday

Dinan330ci

12-20-2003, 08:38 PM

Anyone have an idea as to how much this will cost to install. Ballpark. I'm most interested in how many hours it would take a professional to do this? :dunno: :dunno:

xS3x

12-20-2003, 08:43 PM

between, they don't offer software tuning with the kit?? how does the DME respond to it? any lights?

DaCraZyVun

12-20-2003, 09:59 PM

how much hp can a auto tranny handle

dan330

12-21-2003, 12:25 AM

That is a lot of horses.

Another question...
Supercharger vs Turbo....
From what I have read, turbo's TQ and HP come very fast at a certain point in your rpm. This sometimes suprises drivers. Straight line are OK, but on a track, this sudden explosion can be hard to control if in a middle of a turn. :yikes: That is why the SC is more prefered. SC's TQ and HP come on evenly throughout the RPM band.

How does yours do in track driving tests? :dunno:

sduquette

12-21-2003, 12:42 AM

Originally posted by dan330
That is a lot of horses.

Another question...
Supercharger vs Turbo....
From what I have read, turbo's TQ and HP come very fast at a certain point in your rpm. This sometimes suprises drivers. Straight line are OK, but on a track, this sudden explosion can be hard to control if in a middle of a turn. :yikes: That is why the SC is more prefered. SC's TQ and HP come on evenly throughout the RPM band.

How does yours do in track driving tests? :dunno:

I've driven many turbo cars, and that is a misconception. A well tuned turbo setup will be very linear in it's power delivery and initial surge in power will most likely come in at an RPM much lower than one would drop to on a race track. most of your lag will come in at your initial start, but after than, unless you are running a huge turbo and are not setup for it, there should be very little lag. even the centrifugal type S/C will experience lag as it winds up to make boost.

MMJ4mil

12-21-2003, 01:25 AM

krome we need more posts on your experience with your turbo. :)

crazy1323

12-22-2003, 12:18 PM

Dont forget guys, you also will have to do some extensive engine work. Liek lowering your compression ratio, this can be done with connecting rods, pistons, or both. With a 10.8:1 compression ratio you will get what is called detonation. This is where there is so much compression inside the cylinder walls that it causes the fuel to ignite before the spark plug ignites it. When you compress air it builds up heat. This heat is from air molecules hitting the walls more ofter which builds up friction. This is how a diseal engines work, they have no spark plugs, it is all compression. Also, i think that the 5 speed's in our cars are made with steel syncros instead of brass. As stated before the clutch will get torn to pieces, it would be like having an automatic because the engine will be spinning faster than the clutch. The automatics in our cars will be torn to pieces. the gears would just grind when it shifted. Also, you will need to probably reinforce your tranny and engine mounts. I noticed that the kit only includes the turbo, you will need something to get all that air in (i.e. a CAI). good luck to anybody doing this but it will cost you.

crazy1323

12-22-2003, 04:59 PM

Also, you might need to put in a stronger bottom and top end, or else you might just blow the cylinder head to bits like the guy un that video.

mbanks21

12-23-2003, 06:27 PM

You wont need to build your bottom end if youre only pushing 6-8psi right? There are SC's out that push 9psi without building the bottom.

If you got this kit, couldnt you get your ECU reprogrammed by AA or Technik, etc.?

For $5k, even if there are a few extras you have to get, this is still by far the most affordable turbo out there. Over $3k less than AA's. And if it performs half as well, thats a pretty good feat.

K-DOG

12-23-2003, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by crazy1323
Dont forget guys, you also will have to do some extensive engine work. Liek lowering your compression ratio, this can be done with connecting rods, pistons, or both. With a 10.8:1 compression ratio you will get what is called detonation. This is where there is so much compression inside the cylinder walls that it causes the fuel to ignite before the spark plug ignites it. When you compress air it builds up heat. This heat is from air molecules hitting the walls more ofter which builds up friction. This is how a diseal engines work, they have no spark plugs, it is all compression. Also, i think that the 5 speed's in our cars are made with steel syncros instead of brass. As stated before the clutch will get torn to pieces, it would be like having an automatic because the engine will be spinning faster than the clutch. The automatics in our cars will be torn to pieces. the gears would just grind when it shifted. Also, you will need to probably reinforce your tranny and engine mounts. I noticed that the kit only includes the turbo, you will need something to get all that air in (i.e. a CAI). good luck to anybody doing this but it will cost you.

Some things you said are not necessarily true. Detonation most likely will not happen without HIGH BOOST. Im sure you know that we are not going to be running 20PSI on our stock engines any time soon...

BWMguy206

12-23-2003, 06:53 PM

AA doesnt even have a turbo kit for the E46 models so that also means that they dont even have software for it. In order for them to have one they need a turbo E46 on their dyno to develop one.

Reasons why they didnt go with the turbo route was because adding one will totally elminate the cats and one would have to spend more money in getting aftermarket cats that would fit.

The ATP turbo kit seems to be at a good cost but there arent any production kits out yet.

Some kits could be cheap but might give headaches or more problems down the road. One good example is Mechtech.

SpinEcho

12-23-2003, 08:02 PM

K-DOG: "With a 10.8:1 compression ratio you will get what is called detonation."

I totally agree that detonation will be an issue if more than 7 or 8 psi are run on a 10.8:1 motor. Nice dyno printout from ATP, but what boost is being run? And I am really impressed (and a bit skeptical) that c. 400 whp were achieved with 8 psi or less!

K-DOG

12-23-2003, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by SpinEcho
K-DOG: "With a 10.8:1 compression ratio you will get what is called detonation."

I totally agree that detonation will be an issue if more than 7 or 8 psi are run on a 10.8:1 motor. Nice dyno printout from ATP, but what boost is being run? And I am really impressed (and a bit skeptical) that c. 400 whp were achieved with 8 psi or less!

This is all speculation on our part, however, b/c we do not know what PSI their kit is running at....
Since there are dynos of ASA SKI superchargers making 300RWHP at 6-7PSI(with probably -50hp parasitic loss), I think its perfectly possible to achieve those numbers @ around 8PSI (with no parasitic loss by virtue of a turbo).

CantStopModding

12-23-2003, 08:44 PM

ATP is roughly 3 minutes away walking distance from my work. I must say, I do see alot of VWs and Audis there since they do work mainly for those cars. I do see Kromex car there too. Their facility is very well kept and they have an award winning yellow bug there as well. As for reliability on the turbo for the e46...I believe they probably fixed all the flaws in their kit otherwise why would they post it up for sale. The only flaw I remembered was this past summer's e46 meet, Kromex was parking his car and as it was idling, the engine shut off and he wasn't able to start it back up while I was there.

SpinEcho

12-23-2003, 08:49 PM

Hmmm... a lot of companies knowingly sell products that have flaws, so I wouldn't use that as any kind of guarantee something is reliable.

BTW, I know absolutely nothing about ATP so this comment is not directed towards them.

mbanks21

12-24-2003, 08:13 AM

If someone got this kit for their E36 M, where could they get their ECU tuned at?

Clem

12-24-2003, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by mbanks21
If someone got this kit for their E36 M, where could they get their ECU tuned at?

AA makes a turbo kit for E36 M3s ;)

Tdrag97

12-24-2003, 10:59 PM

can this be fitted on a step????

crazy1323

12-24-2003, 11:33 PM

like i stated before, you CANNOT run this setup on the stock automatic. I have the automatic (not by my choice but i wasnt complaining), therefore, i cannot run any type of boost being that the tranny can only handle about 250-275 ft-lbs. I am saving up and have made numerous posts as to whay tranny to get and the lagistics of them (traditional manual Vs. SMG). Also if they are running 8PSI then i dont think they would get those numbers. I believe that a SC running that PSI get about 330 at the crank. Yes i know that there is no paristic drag. If there dyno shows 200 HP at the wheels, then that is 11.1% drivetrain loss. based on the 225HP rating. with 400HP at the wheels and the same drive train loss that is 440.4 HP at the crank. That is a 110 HP loss just from paristic drag. In theory, they are running in the low teens. and no, to run a SC the bottom end does not have to be rebuilt. Running in the low teens with a 10.8:1 compression ratio WILL cause detonation.

Jlevi SW

12-25-2003, 04:26 AM

Who was at Patrick's Fantasia meet and snapped pics of Kromex's turbo... It was soo pretty, but there was a crowd around it so I never got pics...

FredS

12-25-2003, 04:53 AM

This turbo setup is very interesting, and possibly will be attached to my "To Buy" list. However, who other than Kromex has installed it? Pics?

TeKNiC330

12-25-2003, 05:13 AM

Originally posted by jlevi
Who was at Patrick's Fantasia meet and snapped pics of Kromex's turbo... It was soo pretty, but there was a crowd around it so I never got pics...

Someone got pics?? :eeps: I thought Paul told eveyone looking at his car to not take pics because it was still in the developing stage.

But daym, i want this kit. It'll take me a while to save up :D

Lotek

12-27-2003, 03:09 AM

So is there any updates? You guys doing some sort of alcohol injection with that kinda boost? I'm really interested. Nitrous + Turbo = Fun. :D I may have to build up my internals...

Lotek

12-27-2003, 05:17 AM

Just emailed them and I shat you not, they emailed me back within 3mins. Here's the email
Thanks for your email.

We are NOT taking orders for the turbo kits yet. We are
due to ship at the first quarter of the year. The
components are going through final production now. If all
the components pass final quality inspection then we
confirm shipment and take orders at the beginning of the
year.

The boost level @ 404 wheel is @ 9.5 psi. This was an
example of how well the 330i engine holds up to boost and
willing to make power under on turbo power, on stock
compression with the motor untouched. Very fun motor to
turbocharge.

Thanks for your interest and we'll keep you updated on
availability.

ATP Staff

TeKNiC330

12-27-2003, 07:54 AM

This will be added to my "To Do" list :D :D

Tdrag97

12-28-2003, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by crazy1323
like i stated before, you CANNOT run this setup on the stock automatic. I have the automatic (not by my choice but i wasnt complaining), therefore, i cannot run any type of boost being that the tranny can only handle about 250-275 ft-lbs. I am saving up and have made numerous posts as to whay tranny to get and the lagistics of them (traditional manual Vs. SMG). Also if they are running 8PSI then i dont think they would get those numbers. I believe that a SC running that PSI get about 330 at the crank. Yes i know that there is no paristic drag. If there dyno shows 200 HP at the wheels, then that is 11.1% drivetrain loss. based on the 225HP rating. with 400HP at the wheels and the same drive train loss that is 440.4 HP at the crank. That is a 110 HP loss just from paristic drag. In theory, they are running in the low teens. and no, to run a SC the bottom end does not have to be rebuilt. Running in the low teens with a 10.8:1 compression ratio WILL cause detonation.

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: so what can kind of setup can we get with auto... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: I want more power.. :cry:

crazy1323

12-28-2003, 03:20 PM

your only option with an auto for more power is really a supercharger running about 6PSI. You can also get cams, headers, intakes, and exhausts.

SpinEcho

12-28-2003, 05:26 PM

10.8:1 compression, 9.5 psi boost and no detonation? :cartman:

BimmerJustin

12-28-2003, 05:55 PM

I hear nothing about the 325. What the hell!?!

miktrebla09

12-28-2003, 08:08 PM

What really impresses me is how flat the torque and hp curves are for the m3! amazing..

rtg///m3

12-28-2003, 11:32 PM

just because the Compression Ratio is high doesnt mean its going to detonate. Certain precautions are done to lower compression to 8:1 so that it won't, like arp studs, gaskets, and piston setups. The reason his engine holds up is because IT IS A NEW CAR/ENGINE. Down the road i KNOW he'll upgrade the engine. EMC on BIMMERFORUMS is running 6PSI on stock internals and is runnin a little over 400hp. As for ATP, they do have problems with their software, but like all great turbo companies, SOFTWARE TUNING is always an issue. i've heard about 6 cases where AA sent out ecu chips like AOL sends out 9.0 cd's, and that is with their turbo AND s/c setups. I plan on building up my engine then going for turbo. I'm going to head out to ATP tomorrow and let you guys know the dirt. Please let me know some questions u have so i may ask them,
Russell

quadrophiend

12-28-2003, 11:36 PM

Questions :

will this turbo be setup for 325s as well as 330s?

SpinEcho

12-29-2003, 12:36 AM

rtg///m3 wrote: "just because the Compression Ratio is high doesnt mean its going to detonate. Certain precautions are done to lower compression to 8:1 so that it won't"

Huh? So is it 10.8:1 or 8:1 compression? My comments were made because this car was stated to have 10.8:1.

Mpowered

12-29-2003, 12:37 AM

im doubting that the upgrade kit costs more than the stage 1 kit. i think 5k is for the stage 2 turbo

topaz m3 chibi

12-29-2003, 12:45 AM

seems awfully high

rtg///m3

12-29-2003, 01:59 AM

Echo, is car is on stock compression. I don't if its like that now but its running good on stock compression.

digitalinkartis

12-29-2003, 03:45 AM

I am very very interested in this turbo kit. I guess I will have to wait and see what happens. 1st 1/4 of 2004 is perfect cause that was when I was going to get my asa kit.

328iSC

01-04-2004, 11:12 AM

I wonder if the stage II setup includes a clutch and flywheel upgrade?

e46shift

01-04-2004, 12:16 PM

wowzers

Carlos ///Mtech

01-04-2004, 01:10 PM

Am I the only one to think it is jst a lil cautionary to mildly upgrade a few internals, air in and out, cams, oil coolers..

Wouldn't that comfotably elevate crank hp to around 500?

Jlevi SW

01-04-2004, 10:33 PM

Ok guys correct me if I'm wrong, but I did some calculations. The stock 330 transfers 207 out of 235 horsepower, which is a little over 88%
This would theoretically mean that the turbo'd 330 is only getting 88% of the power to the wheels... which would be 404.3. If true, that would mean..... almost 460 brake horsepower at the crank. Is this possible? 460hp from a meager 235hp engine. That would be DOUBLING the horsepower of the car. Someone tell me I'm somehow wrong?

JL

K-DOG

01-04-2004, 10:38 PM

see my reply in the Sound of Turbo thread....

qzbeemer

01-04-2004, 10:50 PM

wait, jlevi... stock 330 is only 225, so thats more than double...

Q

mtfour

01-06-2004, 12:12 AM

:bump:

BIMMERWHORE

01-06-2004, 12:50 AM

Originally posted by jlevi
Ok guys correct me if I'm wrong, but I did some calculations. The stock 330 transfers 207 out of 235 horsepower, which is a little over 88%
This would theoretically mean that the turbo'd 330 is only getting 88% of the power to the wheels... which would be 404.3. If true, that would mean..... almost 460 brake horsepower at the crank. Is this possible? 460hp from a meager 235hp engine. That would be DOUBLING the horsepower of the car. Someone tell me I'm somehow wrong?

JL

With a 15% drivetrain loss, 404.3 hp at the wheels = 476 hp at the crank. That would be well more than double the stock horsepower.

Bimmerphile

01-08-2004, 04:15 AM

bump for this thread. I cant beleive it went a day without posts! for shame!

SDunham

01-08-2004, 10:18 AM

That's alot of HP/TQ gain for the $$. At a minimum, the Turbo kit plus exhaust, clutch and flywheel, this seems too good to be true. I'd like to see the outcome of this with all the details when it's all said and done... I find it hard to believe there is no ECU reprogramming required... I've checked into Garrett Turbo's before and they are supposed to be among the best out there...

mtfour

01-10-2004, 08:32 PM

:bump:

KromeX

01-10-2004, 09:22 PM

Even though the website doesn't list ECU programming, it doesn't mean it's not coming with any. We don't list hose clamps, how come no one has asked about those? The list of things on the website are just some things to expect, not the complete kit's components. We're not listing everything yet because it's just a preview.

Tdrag97

01-10-2004, 10:05 PM

How much can you get out of a S/C ASA.. TOP?

ElitistK

01-18-2004, 05:43 PM

How much can you get out of a S/C ASA.. TOP?
skII...380rwhp? iono check the sc threads

Shangsta

01-31-2004, 11:52 PM

This is very interesting. If this kit does make it to the market it may just cause me to drop my idea of buying an sti or 03 cobra and getting a 330 instead. It looks like the stock internals have held up pretty good. Kromex, for how many miles have you been testing this turbo. I agree with those that are saying to upgrade the internals

crazy1323

02-08-2004, 06:19 PM

:bump:

greg330i

02-08-2004, 09:58 PM

I'd sure love to hear some updates on this kit from ATP.
Kromex? How goes the leap from protoype to production?

SDunham

02-10-2004, 04:37 PM

:wtf: Any update on the ATP Turbo kits...? There's alot of people "sportin' wood" for more info on this...

mtfour

02-11-2004, 11:13 AM

I want my. I want my. I want my ATP!!! :D

quadrophiend

02-11-2004, 11:34 AM

If you guys didn't check the other thread on these kits... I spoke with one of the guys at ATP yesterday... they say it could take up to a year before this is on sale... :banghead:..

greg330i

02-11-2004, 12:58 PM

If you guys didn't check the other thread on these kits... I spoke with one of the guys at ATP yesterday... they say it could take up to a year before this is on sale... :banghead:..

Yeah.. I with Kromex would post some updates on this forum.
My impatience may have me ordering an ASA SK1 in April (the day I have permission) ;)

Allan

07-12-2005, 10:25 AM

Any updates yet?

Is the kit already for sale? Kromex, how does it handle?

iLLM3

07-12-2005, 01:01 PM

All Im saying is...that is FAR from a bolt on $5K turbo kit to make that kind of power..

regardless, at any cost, its damn impressive.

I agree, there's no way a bolt on turbo kit is pushing that! Its gonna need alot of work to be getting that :thumbsup:

HAHAHHA :wtf: this thread is old :cry: :lmao: