ASA + SS Headers = BOING [Archive]

Nt_loader

08-28-2004, 08:55 PM

I just had SS headers installed on my car and I felt the power gain immediately. It feels like the car just WOKE UP :yikes:

IMO its definately worth the money to get a set of headers, the throttle feels much more responsive, the lag is almot 100% gone. Accelaration has been improved in all the gears, no loss of low end torque as far as I can tell. I will dyno the car next week just to verify the results.

The exhaust note has changed slightly, keep in mind that I am still running around with the resonators and stock muffler. The sound is just amazing, it has a nice stock ROAR to it, especially as you climb the rpm band.

I was driving around just a few minutes ago when a SRT4 tested me. Well since I was in the middle of the woods just driving around I figured why not. 1st gear, he is 1 car behind. 2nd gear 3 cards behind. Once I got to around 5500rpm in 3rd the guy must have been like 10 or more cars back, thats when I ended it but he still wanted more. No point in that at all.

The bad thing is that I had no CEL's for about 300 miles until tonight. I am getting P0420 and P0430 that are directly related to the missing cats. At this point im not sure if im going to swap out the resonators for magnaflow cats or just get some o2 simulators.

Thanks to JLEVI for hooking me up on the headers. He was really helpfull in getting to me really quick as I could not wait to install them.

Thanks Again :thumbup:

JC7727

08-28-2004, 09:04 PM

Where you get them installed, I have em comming on monday. How do they sound with the stock exhaust, you have a clip?

Jimmy

CYBER PETE

08-28-2004, 09:09 PM

Nice kill...that's one sick ride you have there....

Nt_loader

08-28-2004, 09:12 PM

Where you get them installed, I have em comming on monday. How do they sound with the stock exhaust, you have a clip?

Jimmy
I got them installed at RPM racing in Hintington Station NY :thumbup:

Nt_loader

08-28-2004, 09:14 PM

I forgot to say:

IM BACK MOFO's

Yellowmann

08-28-2004, 09:17 PM

Nice run there bro... u sure it was a SRT4 :) Man cant wait to check out your ride ago.

Nt_loader

08-28-2004, 09:21 PM

yea it was definately a SRT4 you clown :lmao:

omes

08-28-2004, 10:13 PM

Sweet i am getting some ASAP! :bow:

BMWDon

08-28-2004, 10:52 PM

Congrats....you suck :bow:

I forgot to say:

IM BACK MOFO's

wyu

08-28-2004, 11:10 PM

thread useless without vids!!!! :lmao:

Juha 323Ci

08-29-2004, 01:21 AM

Fawk! And I was just planning on dropping 1-2k in some custom stereo setup for the car. No point in doing that when I can make the car faster by investing that money into the headers... :banghead:

I need those headers!!! :drool:

Oh, and welcome back! We sure missed your kill stories!! :thumbup:

xS3x

08-29-2004, 06:09 AM

i told you headers are worth it ;)

kashif

08-29-2004, 06:39 AM

i told you headers are worth it ;)

:werd: headers are the best mod with supercharger. ASA + headers catback exhaust rocks :thumbup:

Get the cats if you can to get that cel off. the weather here is about 100F all the time. however with the ASA SK1 + Headers + catback exhaust.. (my cars a step) i feel the second gear slipping, at times when the weather is colder at night i feel the third gears slipping. Think its time i got the Level ten upgrade.

richbmw323

08-29-2004, 11:25 AM

:werd: headers are the best mod with supercharger. ASA + headers catback exhaust rocks :thumbup:

Get the cats if you can to get that cel off. the weather here is about 100F all the time. however with the ASA SK1 + Headers + catback exhaust.. (my cars a step) i feel the second gear slipping, at times when the weather is colder at night i feel the third gears slipping. Think its time i got the Level ten upgrade.

Slipping when its cold out? I am getting the Level ten torque converter, and maybe the hydro. It 2k for both packages at the same time little more when done seperate. Both require the same labor, almost. I want stage 2

kashif

08-29-2004, 12:06 PM

its producing too much power for my tranny... i cant even slam it in second gear :(

pls give us a review once you get lvl10.

malakia12

08-29-2004, 12:12 PM

crispvx>if you don't mind me asking, where can you get O2 simulators from? I have headers and my SES light is on too and I am tired of looking at it. thanks

Nico3k

08-29-2004, 12:43 PM

Don't mean to threadjack, but crispvx what ever became of your engine problems with that chain and everything? What was the exact problem, and what caused the problem?

Thanks!

mrtm2004

08-29-2004, 04:35 PM

[QUOTE=crispvx]I just had SS headers installed on my car and I felt the power gain immediately. It feels like the car just WOKE UP :yikes:

The exhaust note has changed slightly, keep in mind that I am still running around with the resonators and stock muffler. The sound is just amazing, it has a nice stock ROAR to it, especially as you climb the rpm band.

The bad thing is that I had no CEL's for about 300 miles until tonight.QUOTE]

What is CEL? I did a search & came up empty.

Also, Is this a good alternative & better performance upgrade than the Exhaust upgrade & not headers?

vaio76109

08-29-2004, 05:05 PM

CEL=Check Engine Light

Nt_loader

08-29-2004, 06:35 PM

crispvx>if you don't mind me asking, where can you get O2 simulators from? I have headers and my SES light is on too and I am tired of looking at it. thanks
Have you tried to reset it?

I reset mine this morning and went on a 150 mile drive today. NO CEL;s so far, hopefully it will stay off. I have not done any research on the O2 simulators yet.

Nt_loader

08-29-2004, 06:42 PM

I forgot to mention that during my 150 mile drive I really got to enjoy my car again. The smooth power from the ASA kit is unreal, I can feel the added power from the second I step on the gas. The sound from the headers just wants me to drive for hours listening to the exhaust note :thumbup:

russ330

08-29-2004, 07:05 PM

^ I heard somewhere that you loose a bit of boost pressure with the addition of headers due to less back pressure in the exhaust system. Is this true? :dunno:

If so, I'm sure you're not loosing power, I'm guessing it probably just takes less boost pressure to achieve the same results, which makes me wonder if you can up the boost to the previous pressure level with a pulley upgrade or something, thusly giving you even more power without any additional 'harm' (only word it could think of) to the engine.

I hope that all made sense. Thanks. :hi:

Nt_loader

08-29-2004, 07:15 PM

I will have to check my boost gauge to see if I am losing anything, but as far as I can tell I have gained and lost nothing.

My boost gauge is not working right now

russ330

08-29-2004, 07:23 PM

I will have to check my boost gauge to see if I am losing anything, but as far as I can tell I have gained and lost nothing.

My boost gauge is not working right now
That sucks your gauge isn't working right now. :(

What I'm trying to say is that you may loose some boost pressure, but still gain hp. Like it makes everything more effiecient (sp?). :dunno:

Nico3k

08-29-2004, 08:00 PM

I see, no oil being pumped = very bad. I thought BMW's had some kind of sensor that immediately turned off the engine when the oil pump fails?
I think you only lose like 0.1 of boost, but gain more HP from the headers than you lose. I dont think they make pulleys that are 0.1 smaller.

Anyways congrats on the return of your car; you should make some movies of it sometime :thumbup:

edit- so you had to get a new engine? did you have to pay for it or no?

Solid

08-30-2004, 01:37 AM

What were the symptoms right before it happned? Did you get really high oil temp or an oil light?

I second the vid request. I'm thinking about headers too, but i'm not a big fan of a very loud car (it's not for everybody i guess).

The oil pump failed on my old engine :thumbdwn:

When we removed the old engine, we discovered the oil pump sprocket just dangling there, same thing happened to Tim330i.

Turns out that the nut holding the sprocket in place can vibrate itself loose and completely back off the bolt.

Looks like its a bad design from BMW.

Cali6869

08-30-2004, 01:55 AM

cool I cant wait till I get my headers too.

Nt_loader

08-30-2004, 09:14 AM

I was on the highway cruising around 55 - 60 mph when I noticed the RED oil light warning, about 10 seconds later the motor died. I used the speed to pull off the exit ramp, fortunate for me it was only a few feet away. I checked the oil levels and everything was fine, tried to crank the motor over but had no luck. Once I got back into my garage I noticed the damage :thumbdwn:

Alan L.

08-30-2004, 09:36 AM

tim330i

08-30-2004, 10:09 AM

This means we have less than 10 seconds to shut it down when the RED light turns on until the motor destroys itself :thumbdwn:
Yep.

omes

08-30-2004, 10:33 AM

tas

08-30-2004, 01:41 PM

Congrats. for getting your ride back Vince.
So, can this happen to anyone or just people with SC? How could you prevent such a disaster? I am looking into a SC and now I hear all the horror stories. :dunno:

Nt_loader

08-30-2004, 01:52 PM

TAS you are at risk right now, even without a sc'er.

Tim doesnt have a sc'er and the same thing happened to his car.

RKing4441

08-30-2004, 02:09 PM

Hey, you going to get that thang Dyno'd NOW! :yikes: Like to see the NEW #! :woot:

tas

08-30-2004, 02:12 PM

What do I do or how do I prevent this? My warrenty is about to run out. :bawling:

kashif

08-30-2004, 03:55 PM

how much did the repairs cost anyways?

Nt_loader

08-30-2004, 04:49 PM

I am going to dyno the car this saturday :thumbup:

Repairs didnt cost too much

Solid

08-31-2004, 12:06 AM

Does your car sound anything like the SC'd CSL video?
http://home.planet.nl/~staat087/cslsuper.wmv

I am going to dyno the car this saturday :thumbup:

Repairs didnt cost too much

0hMyGod

08-31-2004, 12:07 AM

I am going to dyno the car this saturday :thumbup:

Repairs didnt cost too much
Where are you going to dyno it? :dunno:
Can I go with you and watch it?(maybe I will bring the camcorder :) )Or even dyno my car too. :rolleyes:

vaio76109

08-31-2004, 12:22 AM

Does your car sound anything like the SC'd CSL video?
http://home.planet.nl/~staat087/cslsuper.wmv
That video/car is less impressing then i expected a SC M3 CSL to be.

0hMyGod

08-31-2004, 12:36 AM

That video/car is less impressing then i expected a SC M3 CSL to be.
I think it was really good. :dunno:
Anyway, I can't hear the clip/video for ASA+SS header. :woot: :bow:

vaio76109

08-31-2004, 12:39 AM

I can't hear the clip/video for ASA+SS header. :woot: :bow:
Um, there was one posted?

0hMyGod

08-31-2004, 12:45 AM

No. :hmm: I meatn the CSL one. :rolleyes:
But I will try to make some clips of crispvs's car. :thumbup:

xS3x

08-31-2004, 12:46 AM

I think it was really good. :dunno:
Anyway, I can't hear the clip/video for ASA+SS header. :woot: :bow:
haven't you guys seen my clips? i think i've posted a couple before

the only difference is that i have SS exhaust and technik headers

0hMyGod

08-31-2004, 12:50 AM

haven't you guys seen my clips? i think i've posted a couple before

the only difference is that i have SS exhaust and technik headers
Hey Jesse. :hi:
Was there a clip? :yikes:
Please post them again? :drool:

vaio76109

08-31-2004, 12:51 AM

heres a few
http://63.249.202.221/sound/technik_stage2_sound.mp3
http://jesselin.aynassociates.com/albums/car-pics/MOV00030.mpg
http://jesselin.aynassociates.com/albums/car-pics/SC_330Ci_2.avi
http://jesselin.aynassociates.com/albums/car-pics/SC_330Ci_3.avi

0hMyGod

08-31-2004, 12:55 AM

heres one
http://63.249.202.221/sound/technik_stage2_sound.mp3 right click save as
Thanks.:thanks:
I thought it was a video though. :rolleyes:

vaio76109

08-31-2004, 01:02 AM

Look up again, i linked some more.

0hMyGod

08-31-2004, 01:09 AM

THanks. :thumbup:

Nt_loader

08-31-2004, 01:36 PM

Mine isnt that loud, just the way I like it :thumbup:

Solid

08-31-2004, 01:41 PM

I'm very interested now :) I don't mine loud when I floor it, I just don't like droning at 3k rpm's when i'm cuising on the highway.

Mine isnt that loud, just the way I like it :thumbup:

Nt_loader

08-31-2004, 02:11 PM

I have no droning at all :thumbup:

Nt_loader

08-31-2004, 09:57 PM

CEL came back on tonight, looks like it will stay off between 150 - 200 miles, then shes back :thumbdwn:

0hMyGod

08-31-2004, 10:17 PM

CEL came back on tonight, looks like it will stay off between 150 - 200 miles, then shes back :thumbdwn:
Sorry to hear that. :thumbdwn:

xS3x

09-01-2004, 01:09 AM

CEL came back on tonight, looks like it will stay off between 150 - 200 miles, then shes back :thumbdwn:

time to put on some cats :P

Nt_loader

09-01-2004, 09:12 AM

time to put on some cats :P
Are o2 simulators better then having cats?

330iCanada

09-01-2004, 11:02 AM

So much for das german engineering, that scares the piss out of me. I am still under warranty but I am wondering if I would have a tough time convincining the stealership to buck up for it with my mods.

Yea, it would be nice to know if this is something a technician or myself can easily inspect from the top or underneath the car? crisp any input?

Nt_loader

09-01-2004, 11:05 AM

Only way to inspect it is to open the cover and check it out, not an easy job.

I would reccomend that you guys weld that nut on, especially you guys with mods.

omes

09-01-2004, 12:41 PM

Are o2 simulators better then having cats?

Yes! but trying to find some is a biatch! My local tuner built some for his Z3 with Dinan SC and I asked him for get some for my car and said he can't this is his quote:
"Hello, I just heard from my software engineer at Dinan, I can’t make a simulator as the signal is not the same or just one signal that the ECU is looking for.

It will not work. You will get a code but that’s about it."

So I guess I am going to need cats when I get my headers, or unless anyone can procure an O2 Sim. I am going to email Samir and get his thoughts. I really don't want cats. I will keep everyone posted with his reply.

Jesse do you have a part # for the magnaflow cats to get? and a pic of the undercarriage of you car to see how everything fits.

Omes.

Nt_loader

09-01-2004, 03:22 PM

Guess I will need to get an exhaust if I install cats, I am assuming the added exhaust note will change once they are installed.

330iCanada

09-01-2004, 05:07 PM

Only way to inspect it is to open the cover and check it out, not an easy job.

I would reccomend that you guys weld that nut on, especially you guys with mods.

You mean the top cover of the engine. PLease explain. I am not clear where the oil pump is on the 330.

Nt_loader

09-01-2004, 06:06 PM

You mean the top cover of the engine. PLease explain. I am not clear where the oil pump is on the 330.
The oil pump is located on the lower right hand side of the engine block if you are looking directly towards the car. I know there is a DIY of bimmer forums somewhere, but its for the e36 models.

xS3x

09-02-2004, 02:48 AM

Yes! but trying to find some is a biatch! My local tuner built some for his Z3 with Dinan SC and I asked him for get some for my car and said he can't this is his quote:
"Hello, I just heard from my software engineer at Dinan, I can’t make a simulator as the signal is not the same or just one signal that the ECU is looking for.

It will not work. You will get a code but that’s about it."

So I guess I am going to need cats when I get my headers, or unless anyone can procure an O2 Sim. I am going to email Samir and get his thoughts. I really don't want cats. I will keep everyone posted with his reply.

Jesse do you have a part # for the magnaflow cats to get? and a pic of the undercarriage of you car to see how everything fits.

Omes.
from what samir told me is that any universal high flow cats would work. I will try to get a pic when possible

omes

09-02-2004, 08:59 AM

thanks jesse :thumbup:

Nt_loader

09-13-2004, 11:12 PM

So far im about 300 miles in and no CEL's

I reset the CEL 3 times since the header install, all 3 at around 150 mile intervals, this is my longest run without a CEL.

I wonder what is going on :dunno:

samir@technik

09-13-2004, 11:57 PM

The BMW DME in it's own right has quite a complex "disposition", sometimes it's incredibly sensitive and other times it couldn't care less what you do to it. My 330 for instance has never thrown a CEL with regards to headers...ever.

Nt_loader

09-14-2004, 12:06 AM

Hopefully it wont ever come back on, otherwise I will try and install the o2 sims omes orderd for us :thumbup:

omes

09-14-2004, 01:41 AM

Hopefully it wont ever come back on, otherwise I will try and install the o2 sims omes orderd for us :thumbup:

Should be on route tomorrow I hope, they are all paid for just dicking around with a resistor setup in case we want to completely disconnect the heater wires. My headers are here and so is my clutch and all will be installed thursday I hope so it is going to be a good weekend!!!!! :woot: