infinitas supercharger

[bavarianMwerks]

Hey bimmer freaks,

just some minutes ago I ve been on the webside of the supercharger forge infinitas. (www.infinitas-gmbh.com)
They give 20% on each supercharger kit. That means 3099 EUR for the SK Plus.
Does anyone have experiences with the SK Plus? What do you think about the price?

greets
paul

[russ330]

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=211802&highlight=infinitas

[bavarianMwerks]

thx for the link.

greets

[russ330]

^ no problem. :thumbup:

[samir@technik]

Infinitas USA will be posting a GB for the SK+ this week.

[Durgesh]

I have been in Peppernick's car, and also driven ASA's car in Gemany, their Z4. I can highly recommend this kit, there is nothing else out there that will give you this amount of everyday performance for this price.

Install is also much faster than the SKI/SKII kits.

Durgesh

[Jeff43]

Infinitas USA will be posting a GB for the SK+ this week.

:yikes:

where will this be posted???

[jasyn]

how much of a boost are we looking at for the 330i? a s/c for that price .. i'd buy it if i knew more info =D

[lee330sport]

Im running an SK+
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/leezafgsi/Dscf0026.jpg
Ive not been in an SK1/2 car so i cant tell you what the differences are. Should have some 1/4mile results by the end of the month though. Also i think peppernick got 296bhp with the SK+.

[marinebmr]

the website says it's 5,175 or so in euro's, how much is that in usd? i did a conversion and it comes out to 3,200...is that right? seems too low. thanx guys

[russ330]

the website says it's 5,175 or so in euro's, how much is that in usd? i did a conversion and it comes out to 3,200...is that right? seems too low. thanx guys
:hmm: 1 Euro = 1.28748 USD How'd you arrive at your figure of 3,200? :wtf:

At anyrate, the GB is going on right now. Look at the Site Sponsor forum. Cost is ~$4K.

[TeKNiC3]

Won't the intake be taking in quite a bite of hot air from where its located?

[marinebmr]

i don't know bro, i just went to exchangerate.com and typed it in, that's what it gave me. i probably screwed up. the GB is only on the sk+ i'm looking for at least the sk1. thanx man

[russ330]

^No problem. :) I bet ya put the Euros in the Dollars area something like that.

[Wagon Man]

Excuse my noob question: Is their ASA kit same as Technik's ? I mean SKI, SKII...

Then does Technik also sell SK+ ?

[samir@technik]

Our kits use the ASA line of compressors, but the rest of the kit is different. We have a different intercooler, piping, and a matched ECU upgrade w/ injectors. We do not have an SK+ type kit.

[Wagon Man]

Our kits use the ASA line of compressors, but the rest of the kit is different. We have a different intercooler, piping, and a matched ECU upgrade w/ injectors. We do not have an SK+ type kit.

Tks for the clarification. Is SK1 = "Stage 1" on your web page ?

[samir@technik]

Stage 1 = 6.5psi, which is the same as Infinitas' SK1.

[lee330sport]

Won't the intake be taking in quite a bite of hot air from where its located?


Is does stay quite cool as you still have the feed from the origional air box. But you can an an intake to sit in the bumper if you like.ill do this and see what the differences are.

[Wagon Man]

Is does stay quite cool as you still have the feed from the origional air box. But you can an an intake to sit in the bumper if you like.ill do this and see what the differences are.

Am considering going to get SK+, if I do do buy one, I afraid I will keep loving my "stock" bumper for it :woot: , not doubt the SK+ can use more cold air .. just my "ex-Gruppie" :lmao:

http://photos.e46fanatics.com/data/2/1341100_3iT_cold_GM.jpg

[Wagon Man]

Infinitas USA will be posting a GB for the SK+ this week.

Business model changes so fast I just wanna be sure which party I may be working with , if & when I buy the Infinitas kit. So ....

Per Germany, Infinitas USA = Rennsport. Am I correct that RennSport = Samir = Technik Engineering ?

Can someone please confirm? Tks.

[samir@technik]

Rennsport handles distribution/importation for ASA/Infinitas/GruppeM, while Technik focuses on it's own product development. RS and TE are not directly related to each other, however, I <i>am</i> involved with both.

[Wagon Man]

Rennsport handles distribution/importation for ASA/Infinitas/GruppeM, while Technik focuses on it's own product development. RS and TE are not directly related to each other, however, I <i>am</i> involved with both.

Wow .. you're still up? or just "up"? :craig: anyway, good to know that I'll be in good hands.

Meantime... their web suggested a mere 210HP at crank in a 323 ... estimated at 15% loss that's like a mere 180HP on the wheels , that's PUNY! With the Intake & pulleys I have, plus another <$1k on PowerChip + exhaust , I MIGHT get a similar number on the wheels, don't you think?

Hence am unsure if the gain from SK+ worths my $4k (in my given car). Any other "options" on SK+ to get more kicks? PM me on this one if you prefer. TIA.

[MrBlonde]

Meantime... their web suggested a mere 210HP at crank in a 323 ... estimated at 15% loss that's like a mere 180HP on the wheels , that's PUNY! With the Intake & pulleys I have, plus another <$1k on PowerChip + exhaust, I MIGHT get a similar number on the wheels, don't you think?

Your pulley change plus chip plus exhaust will probably net you .. oh .. say zero increase. The Infinitas SK Plus will clobber your bolt on mods.

The problem with the SK PLus kit is that there is no intercooler and the centrifugal clutch is an additional ccost option. The SK I is the best starting point, rated at 270 bhp for your car.

[Wagon Man]

Your pulley change plus chip plus exhaust will probably net you .. oh .. say zero increase. The Infinitas SK Plus will clobber your bolt on mods.

The problem with the SK PLus kit is that there is no intercooler and the centrifugal clutch is an additional ccost option. The SK I is the best starting point, rated at 270 bhp for your car.

Thanks for your input.

I agree totally with your insights between SK+ and SK1... but as for "zero gain" on other mods .. I must humbly disagree ... there are before/after dyno supporting HP gains within 10~20 HP range ... even just an intake alone...

My concern was $4k for SK+ seems to only get me a tad more juice than the $2k (TOTAL money spent) "those other" mods. I might as well just bite the bullet to go for SK1 ... but for approx $7~8 K total.

However, the latest posts from Infinitas suggested the rating of SK+ should be higher in 323, that it should be in the 230HP range, depands on their response to the additional info I asked for, SK+ may be just right for me.

[MrBlonde]

I agree totally with your insights between SK+ and SK1... but as for "zero gain" on other mods .. I must humbly disagree ... there are before/after dyno supporting HP gains within 10~20 HP range ... even just an intake alone...

Those dyno sheets and other "evidence" are provided by the same people who are trying to get you to buy their products. There are many tricks of the trade to obtain results that "prove" horsepower gains.

The reality is that the bolt ons you mentioned will at best provide a minimal performance improvement. They are more likely to reduce your performance compared to stock.

Don't take my word for it, do a broad based search of any number of BMW specialised forums. Remember to ignore any claims from someone trying to sell you something.

However, the latest posts from Infinitas suggested the rating of SK+ should be higher in 323, that it should be in the 230HP range, depands on their response to the additional info I asked for, SK+ may be just right for me.

The SK Plus kit for E46 323i is rated at 210 BHP on their official literature nd on their web site (http://www.infinitas-gmbh.de/shop/product_info.php?cPath=34_26_49_56&products_id=322).

[Wagon Man]

Those dyno sheets and other "evidence" are provided by the same people who are trying to get you to buy their products. There are many tricks of the trade to obtain results that "prove" horsepower gains. The reality is that the bolt ons you mentioned will at best provide a minimal performance improvement. They are more likely to reduce your performance compared to stock.

Don't take my word for it, do a broad based search of any number of BMW specialised forums. Remember to ignore any claims from someone trying to sell you something.

Kenny, tks for watching out for me... there are several charts posted by users which DO shows positive gains... and yes, there are some unpleasant experience too. Cheesy mods or serious FI, guess the trick word is "do it right", I guess..:thumbup:

The SK Plus kit for E46 323i is rated at 210 BHP on their official literature nd on their .

Tks, and I believe they will revise (up) the rating, we'll sooon find out.

[vaio76109]

Your pulley change plus chip plus exhaust will probably net you .. oh .. say zero increase.

Those dyno sheets and other "evidence" are provided by the same people who are trying to get you to buy their products. There are many tricks of the trade to obtain results that "prove" horsepower gains.

The reality is that the bolt ons you mentioned will at best provide a minimal performance improvement. They are more likely to reduce your performance compared to stock.

There are multiple independent/personal dynos that show gains from things such as exhaust, intake, chip etc...especially on 323's. You really shouldn't post when you don't know what you're talking about, it just promotes internet misinformation and dilutes the value of these forums.

[MrBlonde]

There are multiple independent/personal dynos that show gains from things such as exhaust, intake, chip etc...especially on 323's. You really shouldn't post when you don't know what you're talking about, it just promotes internet misinformation and dilutes the value of these forums.

When the dream is stronger than reality ...

But seriously dude, take a look at the power increase from the E46 M3 to the E46 M3 CSL. This is a maximum effort factory backed version of the S54B32. Now tell me your bolt ons are going to achieve what you hope for.

The bolt on purveyors know all the tricks of the trade to produce dyno sheets that "prove" increases. Even a small attempt with your search engine will get you enough information to mistrust any dyno sheet you ever see again.

[vaio76109]

But seriously dude, take a look at the power increase from the E46 M3 to the E46 M3 CSL. This is a maximum effort factory backed version of the S54B32. Now tell me your bolt ons are going to achieve what you hope for.
Who ever said anything about the M3 :hmm: . Were talking about Non M E46s, 323 in particular.

[Infinitas]

I think people confuse the fact that underdriving auxiliary devices (via larger pulleys) or installing shorter geared differentials, doesn't "increase" power, it just "unlocks" power. There lies the difference. So while some people may denounce these modifications as "hogwash", they definitely help transfer more torque to the wheels. Pulleys may not free up as much torque as differentials, but they do decrease the load on the engine and hence create more "useable" power.

[Wagon Man]

I think people confuse the fact that underdriving auxiliary devices (via larger pulleys) or installing shorter geared differentials, doesn't "increase" power, it just "unlocks" power. There lies the difference. So while some people may denounce these modifications as "hogwash", they definitely help transfer more torque to the wheels. Pulleys may not free up as much torque as differentials, but they do decrease the load on the engine and hence create more "useable" power.

We are not disagreeing on how pulleys / differential helps to "improve" by transferring power to the wheels ... not creating additional power.

but the obvious gap is on how MrBlonde feels about "chipping" and Intake mod.

[vmwerks]

IMO underdrive pulleys will have a greater overall effect on "underpowered cars" sorry 323 owners no offense intended. Given that a 330 doesn't weigh much more than a 323 the difference with the smaller engine will be felt to a greater degree than on a 330.

[Wagon Man]

IMO underdrive pulleys will have a greater overall effect on "underpowered cars" sorry 323 owners no offense intended. Given that a 330 doesn't weigh much more than a 323 the difference with the smaller engine will be felt to a greater degree than on a 330.

None taken, Folsom, we all knew it ... may be with some exceptions :dunno: , when we bought the car. In fact the "upside" in having a smaller engine, such as 323, is that they have more "room" for us to dig around to improve :thumbup: ==> more satisfaction .. in a way.

Back to the topic, MrBlonde thought Chipping and Performance Intake creates no performance gains (in 323 specifically), he probably can search for independent "before/after reports" on various discussion boards...

[///OSS]

so the big question is...what numbers can you achive with the intercooler and centrifugal clutch options on the SK+?

for 325CI step....

235 to 240HP withought those is good but Im curious

and whats the price for the upgrades as well...

Thanks!