View Full Version : Turbonetics Silicone Elbow Installed | ASA SK1
Alan L.
05-21-2005, 12:11 AM
For those of you who have the ASA kit you know the flex tube right before the compressor leaves much to be desired. It works but it just doesn't seem to offer the most durability and the smoothest air flow from its material/design. The silicone elbow is completely smooth inside and out. Sturdy but still flexable and its fiber reinforced so its strong. Sporthoses.com has the samco elbow listed but they never have anything instock. I also wasn't a big fan of the bright blue color either that they only "stock". I finally decided to order the elbow from Turbonetics. Alittle more money ($75 shipped from Nopi.com) but its instock at alot of online retailers and comes in blue, red and black :thumbup:
Here's what the elbow looks like. You need the 2 3/4 90 degree elbow. You need to cut about an inch off for it to fit perfectly.
http://www.diamondstarmotorsport.com/diyparts_files/silicone-90.jpg
Here it is installed. Matches the rest of the kit perfectly :)
http://photos.e46fanatics.com/data/500/125DSCN0414.JPG
http://photos.e46fanatics.com/data/500/125DSCN0415.JPG
Big thanks to Solid for originally finding the correct fitting elbows :thumbup:
Next will be replacing the lower flex tube with a silicone one.
Alan
looks good bro :thumbup:
All those polished goods... :drool:
Mr Paddle.Shift
05-21-2005, 01:21 AM
Looking good Alan! :D
I always thought you had the silicone elbow.
KromeX
05-21-2005, 04:36 AM
$75?
http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ATP-SIL-065&Category_Code=SIL-90EL
RalphzMCS
05-21-2005, 08:20 AM
$75?
http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ATP-SIL-065&Category_Code=SIL-90EL
thats a bid difference in price :dunno:
Alan L.
05-21-2005, 09:20 AM
$75?
http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ATP-SIL-065&Category_Code=SIL-90EL
I've searched high and low for a place that had this instock and not once did i think of ATP for some reason. They also never came up in any of my searches on the net :banghead:
No biggie...I guess I'll just think of it as I got the designer brand version of it lol
Good find though. Now others will know where to order from :thumbup:
Alan L.
05-21-2005, 09:26 AM
Now question for you guys. When i took off my stock flex tube, it was sorta saturated with motor oil. Is this normal? I mean its not to the point where its leaking or that I need top off on oil but its there. It would guess that its coming from the bypass valve that hooks up closest to the manifold.
RichP
05-21-2005, 10:41 AM
Alan, Ive got a place that can make anything, probably for less than a turbonetics offering. Perhaps we need to spec out a complete hose replacement kit...
Mr Paddle.Shift
05-21-2005, 11:50 AM
It's suppose to be a bit oily cos of the PCV blowby.
The boys at TE and myself discussed about a catch can a while back. I ended up testing out a oil vapor filter device (quite like those oil catch can, but not exactly). So far, from my 3 track events and daily driving, I have filtered out about 2 shots of oil. I will write more about this in up coming weeks. But don't go out and get the catch cans just yet.
Now question for you guys. When i took off my stock flex tube, it was sorta saturated with motor oil. Is this normal? I mean its not to the point where its leaking or that I need top off on oil but its there. It would guess that its coming from the bypass valve that hooks up closest to the manifold.
GBX330ci
05-21-2005, 12:05 PM
damn alan. You didn't waste anytime installing that thing. Very nice!
whats everyone else's feeling on replacing the lower flex tube with a silicone one? Spoke with Samir about it a while back and he suggested replacing the elbow, but said that it really wasn't necessary to replace the lower tube.
Wonder if i could get my dinan CF intake tube to fit? No one seems to want it, so mabye i'll cut it up.....Someone better buy this thing!
Jojo@DPE
05-21-2005, 12:20 PM
Next will be replacing the lower flex tube with a silicone one.
Alan
i think this is something i have to do as it appears that my headlight may be rubbing against it. we replaced the lower flex tube, but for the long run a silicone hose is just what i need. thanks!
also thanks to kromex for showing us his ATP goodies.
douglas_ngo
05-21-2005, 03:04 PM
Looks Good Alan. Regarding the lower flex tube, go to a muffler shop and have them custom bend you a piece. I did it on my ESS setup.
Nt_loader
05-21-2005, 04:00 PM
$75?
http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ATP-SIL-065&Category_Code=SIL-90EL
Are these actually in stock?
Are these actually in stock?
ATP? Probably next month. :lmao:
iLLM3
05-21-2005, 05:21 PM
looks good bro :thumbup:
All those polished goods... :drool:
Yea man looking good Alan, cant wait to meet up man, this is killing me :thumbup:
KromeX
05-21-2005, 07:42 PM
Are these actually in stock?
Yes, all colors are in stock.
HighBoostin330
05-21-2005, 11:25 PM
Next will be replacing the lower flex tube with a silicone one.
Alan
Nice install Alan! :thumbup: Very clean! I really want to replace the lower flex tube with a silicone one.
KromeX, what is your situation with your turbo kit? You don't come out to meets no more and there hasn't been updates on your ATP turbo kit.
KromeX
05-22-2005, 01:45 AM
Building my motor and lowering compression. Did the wrong thing by pulling the motor out first and then ordering the parts. Got sent the wrong rods and now just waiting for new ones to arrive.
HighBoostin330
05-22-2005, 01:56 AM
Building my motor and lowering compression. Did the wrong thing by pulling the motor out first and then ordering the parts. Got sent the wrong rods and now just waiting for new ones to arrive.
So when does it get back on the road again?
epeart
05-22-2005, 12:45 PM
For those of you who have the ASA kit you know the flex tube right before the compressor leaves much to be desired. It works but it just doesn't seem to offer the most durability and the smoothest air flow from its material/design. The silicone elbow is completely smooth inside and out. Sturdy but still flexable and its fiber reinforced so its strong. Sporthoses.com has the samco elbow listed but they never have anything instock. I also wasn't a big fan of the bright blue color either that they only "stock". I finally decided to order the elbow from Turbonetics. Alittle more money ($75 shipped from Nopi.com) but its instock at alot of online retailers and comes in blue, red and black :thumbup:
Here's what the elbow looks like. You need the 2 3/4 90 degree elbow. You need to cut about an inch off for it to fit perfectly.
http://www.diamondstarmotorsport.com/diyparts_files/silicone-90.jpg
Here it is installed. Matches the rest of the kit perfectly :)
http://photos.e46fanatics.com/data/500/125DSCN0414.JPG
http://photos.e46fanatics.com/data/500/125DSCN0415.JPG
Big thanks to Solid for originally finding the correct fitting elbows :thumbup:
Next will be replacing the lower flex tube with a silicone one.
AlanAlan It was Nice to finally meet you at the show at Floyd Bennit field last week. Can you P.M. on where can I get that hose, my flex Hose is leaking again and My 24lbs injectors are in tomorrow. I was at Craig Paisley a couple weeks ago and those were hoses he was trying to get me but it didn't have a 2.75 bore. I guess you found it....epeart
epeart
05-22-2005, 12:55 PM
$75?
http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ATP-SIL-065&Category_Code=SIL-90EL
Sweet!! :thumbup:
epeart
05-22-2005, 12:58 PM
Now question for you guys. When i took off my stock flex tube, it was sorta saturated with motor oil. Is this normal? I mean its not to the point where its leaking or that I need top off on oil but its there. It would guess that its coming from the bypass valve that hooks up closest to the manifold.Yo! mine was the same My turbo friends say its from the crank case breather hose.
Alan L.
05-22-2005, 06:16 PM
It was nice chattin with you too epeart :)
Took the car out for a quick drive. Feels good. When i'm not on it (vacuum mode), the usual "shhhhh" sound seems alittle quieter but then when I am on it and shift, the "pshhh" sounds more defined.
Besides getting the lower hose done, i'm also going to look into upgrading some of the critical hose clamps.
Thats if from me this week. I'm off to the Virgin Islands :thumbup:
HighBoostin330
05-22-2005, 06:22 PM
It was nice chattin with you too epeart :)
Took the car out for a quick drive. Feels good. When i'm not on it (vacuum mode), the usual "shhhhh" sound seems alittle quieter but then when I am on it and shift, the "pshhh" sounds more defined.
Besides getting the lower hose done, i'm also going to look into upgrading some of the critical hose clamps.
Thats if from me this week. I'm off to the Virgin Islands :thumbup:
Keep us posted! :bow: I serious want to upgrade the same parts as you. Especially that lower hose.
KromeX
05-22-2005, 06:27 PM
It was nice chattin with you too epeart :)
Took the car out for a quick drive. Feels good. When i'm not on it (vacuum mode), the usual "shhhhh" sound seems alittle quieter but then when I am on it and shift, the "pshhh" sounds more defined.
Besides getting the lower hose done, i'm also going to look into upgrading some of the critical hose clamps.
Thats if from me this week. I'm off to the Virgin Islands :thumbup:
I recommend the T-Bolt type clamps.
http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=tp&Category_Code=CLA
If you replace any soft hose with a more rigid or even metal pipe, the pshh sound will get even louder.
KromeX
05-22-2005, 06:28 PM
So when does it get back on the road again?
It'll be a while. Pauter is taking their sweet time.
epeart
05-22-2005, 06:38 PM
It was nice chattin with you too epeart :)
Took the car out for a quick drive. Feels good. When i'm not on it (vacuum mode), the usual "shhhhh" sound seems alittle quieter but then when I am on it and shift, the "pshhh" sounds more defined.
Besides getting the lower hose done, i'm also going to look into upgrading some of the critical hose clamps.
Thats if from me this week. I'm off to the Virgin Islands :thumbup:
Have a good time "Bring bak one of dem Island Girls for Me ! :thumbup: " I'm headed the other direction Driving up to Toronto On Wed for a week. Not taking the machine got into a fender bender on the Belt Prky last Thursday <bitter sweet> now I can get That carbon fiber hood I wanted and black out grills and repaint my RD35 Body kit. I'll put the injectors in next week when it comes out of the body shop!
GBX330ci
05-22-2005, 06:41 PM
I'll put the injectors in next week when it comes out of the body shop!
you have software to run with those injectors? What number you installin?
epeart
05-22-2005, 07:22 PM
you have software to run with those injectors? What number you installin? No software yet. I'm using 24lbs Tecknik spec for their software when it lands on the EastCoast :craig: The DME will adjust to it Plus the ASATronic to adjust .it will run rich low untill I get the software but better rich than lean.
GBX330ci
05-22-2005, 07:26 PM
No software yet. I'm using 24lbs Tecknik spec for their software when it lands on the EastCoast :craig: The DME will adjust to it Plus the ASATronic to adjust .it will run rich low untill I get the software but better rich than lean.
interesting. Did you get the inj's from technik? What brand are they? How much (if you don't mind me asking)?
epeart
05-22-2005, 07:35 PM
interesting. Did you get the inj's from technik? What brand are they? How much (if you don't mind me asking)?I couldn"t wait. But Mr. PaddleShift uses 22Lbs in his 325 and the upgrade kit uses 24lbs so I'm giving it a shot I have a friend with a N/A 323 using 24lbs with no problems I got them from this web site www.SprayItRacing.com
GBX330ci
05-22-2005, 07:55 PM
I couldn"t wait. But Mr. PaddleShift uses 22Lbs in his 325 and the upgrade kit uses 24lbs so I'm giving it a shot I have a friend with a N/A 323 using 24lbs with no problems I got them from this web site www.SprayItRacing.com
What's stock? Is it the same for 330's?
Mr Paddle.Shift
05-22-2005, 10:34 PM
Definitely keep me posted.
Btw, you will need to source for some spacers for the fuel rail. Bosch injectors sit a little higher than the Siemens.
I couldn"t wait. But Mr. PaddleShift uses 22Lbs in his 325 and the upgrade kit uses 24lbs so I'm giving it a shot I have a friend with a N/A 323 using 24lbs with no problems I got them from this web site www.SprayItRacing.com
Solid
05-23-2005, 12:38 AM
nice write up. I already replaced most of the clamps on the boost side, you'll prob end up spending around $80 or so to do it. I went with constant-torque at first, but they were too bulky, so go with the t-bolt. Also make sure you don't go too thick on the bands or the clamps won't fit in the little divits on the end of the pipes.
As for the longer intake hose, i just wrapped it with a bunch if electric tape (still looks good too), just don't tape the ends where you clamp. The hose was rubbing a little on the headlight too (balast is moved) and this seem to prevent any wearing on the hose...
I went with these guys with the clamps:
http://www.partssystems.com/index.html
I had no idea ATP sold clamps and hoses :banghead:
BTW i get oil residue all over too, but not enough oil gets sucked out to warrant much loss, i never got a low oil warning or anything, and I check my oil level time to time. Like everyone said it's coming from the crank case hose, my hose (silicone) is actually starting to discolor a little from it, but from I read little bits of oil shouldn't hurt the hose any.
epeart
05-23-2005, 04:59 PM
Definitely keep me posted.
Btw, you will need to source for some spacers for the fuel rail. Bosch injectors sit a little higher than the Siemens.Good looking out on that. What did you use for spacers on your fuel rail ? The injectors came in this morning :thumbup: Funny how the box say's Ford Racing Performance Parts. They are color coded baby blue part # M 9593 A302 Bosch injectors on the injector it self it has the Bosch logo and Ford logo.
Good looking out on that. What did you use for spacers on your fuel rail ? The injectors came in this morning :thumbup: Funny how the box say's Ford Racing Performance Parts. They are color coded baby blue part # M 9593 A302 Bosch injectors on the injector it self it has the Bosch logo and Ford logo.
I spoke to Technik about sourcing my own injectors, (my shop that is going to do my inj/sw upgrade offered to take my stock ones in trade), he advised me against it. Reason being the injectors Technik is going to be providing are going to be flow matched. I have heard that injectors can vary from one to another and what Technik said makes sense. :dunno: Any comments?
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