What exhaust setup for Jlevi?

[Jlevi SW]

Usually I go with the parts that my fellow vendors or people I work with sell... but for exhaust, I am on my own I think...

I'm running a 6psi Vortech blower tuned by VFEngineering. It clearly is not getting enough air out, and now that VF has the dynos, I can change my exhaust...

I am thinking of going with a catback setup... not sure how many resinators to run... so I'd love to hear what you guys have to say - I value your opinions very much!

My ideal setup would have the same functionality as your average CAI: Increases power (inevitable on an FI setup), quiet under regular driving, and fairly throaty at WOT.

Thanks guys!
JL

[Nick@Jlevi SW]

My vote would be AA but that isn't cat back. How about a combination of supersprint pipes and AA?

[Jlevi SW]

Hmm... that is a good idea...
No offense, though, I want to hear from some FI guys who have tried those 2.

JL

[RalphzMCS]

Usually I go with the parts that my fellow vendors or people I work with sell... but for exhaust, I am on my own I think...

I'm running a 6psi Vortech blower tuned by VFEngineering. It clearly is not getting enough air out, and now that VF has the dynos, I can change my exhaust...

I am thinking of going with a catback setup... not sure how many resinators to run... so I'd love to hear what you guys have to say - I value your opinions very much!

My ideal setup would have the same functionality as your average CAI: Increases power (inevitable on an FI setup), quiet under regular driving, and fairly throaty at WOT.

Thanks guys!
JL

i have the RE ikon without one resonator and love the sound, mild under normail driving and aggressive as hell when i step on it. not sure about a big hp gain though, will try catless later and see how that goes

[Jlevi SW]

So essentially you're running straight pipes up to the exhaust?
They had to put in a Y pipe to get the exhaust to fit your 323, right?
JL

[Nt_loader]

Exhaust wont do you a dam thing until you upgrade your headers, save your money and do that first.

[Jlevi SW]

You think? Headers are priiiceeyy though. How do you like those Supersprint ones we sent over?
JL

[Nt_loader]

They are a must, I could not be more happy with them :thumbup:

Definately an improvement over stock, I even notice a change in the exhaust note :pimpin:

I would get:

SS headers, SS X pipe, SS Race Cats, SS 83mm exhaust :pimpin: :pimpin: :pimpin:

Delete both resonators

I think the race cats might have the xpipe already built in.

Lets start a group buy :)

[Jlevi SW]

Man, you think I'm MADE of money? :(
JL

[KP]

depends on how much you want to spend.

If you want to just go with catback, then TSE3 or one of the popular mufflers with a x-pipe combo.
If you don't mind spending some money, get headers and either the metallic cats, or weld some magnaflows into your existing midpipe.
General consensus from the FI members seem to be that headers help out the s/c well.
I've been very pleased with my ss headers/cats/custom t304pipe/eisenmann combo.
The sound could be unbearable to some, but it's fine for me.
I'd like to delve into the s/c route in the future myself since the exhaust is already setup for it, but $$$

[Nt_loader]

Sorry but the TS3 is just way too loud for any street application

[KP]

Sorry but the TS3 is just way too loud for any street application

you're saying a TSE3 is louder than your/my combo? :hmm:
I haven't heard a TSE3 in person, but that seems hard to believe..

[RalphzMCS]

So essentially you're running straight pipes up to the exhaust?
They had to put in a Y pipe to get the exhaust to fit your 323, right?
JL

yes a y pipe was welded on...i agree with the others on headers, a must have if you are trying to get more hp

[m3on20z]

Eisenmann. :thumbup:

[omes]

Jon,

I am with Vin on this one....SS Header, Race Cats, SS Rear Resonator and SS Muffler. I am almost 100% sure the Xpipe is not needed when you get the racing cats. The racing cats are large $$. If you are looking at a more inexpensive setup go.....SS header, get a custom set of cats welded in to a straight/xpipe, rear resonator then muffler. Supersprint is sometimes considered SuperSilent but with the blower and headers my car honestly sounds perfect....I have gotten more compliments on the way it sounds than most other mods. You can always delete the rear resonator at a future time if the exhaust note is not what you are looking for, it is a fair inexpensive piece and should have good resale.


Omes.

[HighBoostin330]

Jon,

I am with Vin on this one....SS Header, Race Cats, SS Rear Resonator and SS Muffler. I am almost 100% sure the Xpipe is not needed when you get the racing cats. The racing cats are large $$. If you are looking at a more inexpensive setup go.....SS header, get a custom set of cats welded in to a straight/xpipe, rear resonator then muffler. Supersprint is sometimes considered SuperSilent but with the blower and headers my car honestly sounds perfect....I have gotten more compliments on the way it sounds than most other mods. You can always delete the rear resonator at a future time if the exhaust note is not what you are looking for, it is a fair inexpensive piece and should have good resale.


Omes.

That SS setup looks like mines. :eeps: :P

[HighBoostin330]

They are a must, I could not be more happy with them :thumbup:

Definately an improvement over stock, I even notice a change in the exhaust note :pimpin:

I would get:

SS headers, SS X pipe, SS Race Cats, SS 83mm exhaust :pimpin: :pimpin: :pimpin:

Delete both resonators

I think the race cats might have the xpipe already built in.

Lets start a group buy :)

That setup looks like the M3 setup.

[db-330Ci]

I would also go for the headers & race cats combination - from HAMANN.
But you shouldn't remove the mid-silencer (otherwise you'll lose torque) :tsk:

Greetings from Germany

Daniel

[HighBoostin330]

I would also go for the headers & race cats combination - from HAMANN.
But you shouldn't remove the mid-silencer (otherwise you'll lose torque) :tsk:

Greetings from Germany

Daniel

What mid-silencer? The only thing between the headers and exhaust are the cats and the resonator.

[db-330Ci]

What mid-silencer? The only thing between the headers and exhaust are the cats and the resonator.
That is what we call "mid-silencer" in Germany:

http://www.supersprint.com/prodotti/787403.jpg

mid-silencer = resonator :hi:

Greetings from Germany

Daniel

[vmwerks]

you're saying a TSE3 is louder than your/my combo? :hmm:
I haven't heard a TSE3 in person, but that seems hard to believe..

I ran the TSE3 with headers... it sounded like open pipes.. The combination is really loud! I had them removed almost immediately...

[Alan L.]

I ran the TSE3 with headers... it sounded like open pipes.. The combination is really loud! I had them removed almost immediately...

I can imagine. The TSE isn't a quiet exhaust to begin with (yes i've heard it in person and it was installed correctly :) )

Basically if your going to run headers, your exhaust will be LOUD. Damn loud. If you want to run headers, i would go with the full SS exhaust since its one of the most quite exhausts out while keeping atleast one resonator.

If you don't get headers then I would get an Eisenmann for its sound or SS for its beautiful tips. HP gains will all similar on all exhausts.

[KP]

I ran the TSE3 with headers... it sounded like open pipes.. The combination is really loud! I had them removed almost immediately...

I thought he was referring to that a TSE3 by itself without headers would be louder than a header+cat/x-pipe+muffler combo.
I first had my setup with the SS resonator instead of the custom piping I have now.
But I found the resonator to muffle the sound too much for my liking, which is the reason I took it off (plus the fact I couldn't get it to line up with the eisenmann)
My friend has a SS muffler only on his 330, and it's way too quiet for my liking.
SS products are top notch quality though, better than eisenmann in my opinion. My choice for eisenmann was solely based on tip design.

[HighBoostin330]

That is what we call "mid-silencer" in Germany:

http://www.supersprint.com/prodotti/787403.jpg

mid-silencer = resonator :hi:

Greetings from Germany

Daniel

Haha. Sorry for the confusion. I have that setup and it is perfect for me. No droning either, but loud when WOT. :pimpin:

[JC7727]

I ran the TSE3 with headers... it sounded like open pipes.. The combination is really loud! I had them removed almost immediately...
Ask Vin about my headers no cats and TSE3 setup it was rediculous, sounded like an nascar. Way way to loud for any street application. My new setup sounds awsome, Technik headers, no carts, stock two resanotors, and a eisenmann race exhaust.

Jimmy

[Surk]

I'm in the middle of installing my Vortech with 8psi..but had a exhaust shop run catback 2 1/4" dual removed both resos.and install a long freeflow non restrictive AF reso.. sounds nice and I noticed more torque.. give you a review after I fire up my Vortech unit next week..

[Nt_loader]

Ask Vin about my headers no cats and TSE3 setup it was rediculous, sounded like an nascar. Way way to loud for any street application. My new setup sounds awsome, Technik headers, no carts, stock two resanotors, and a eisenmann race exhaust.

Jimmy
I could hear that thing from many blocks away :omg:

[AssassinGT]

I could hear that thing from many blocks away :omg:

haha, did you get a video of that. I would love to see that.

[redronin]

haha, did you get a video of that. I would love to see that.


LOL :werd: i wanna hear it too! i wanna do headers sometime but i have a tse3 :bawling:


WHICH I LOVE! and i dont think its even close to too loud right now, even contemplating taking out a resonator (flame suit on)

mel did that and she says it sounds great
but i know it will be too loud with minus a res and headers.......


wanna hear headers plus tse3 plus all res and cats.

[vaio76109]

You think? Headers are priiiceeyy though. How do you like those Supersprint ones we sent over?
JL
If I ever hear you complaining about money ever again im going to punch you through your computer.

[vaio76109]

I ran the TSE3 with headers... it sounded like open pipes.. The combination is really loud! I had them removed almost immediately...
Hey, I sold you the TSE3...so are just running TSE3 and stock headers now?

[Jlevi SW]

If I ever hear you complaining about money ever again im going to punch you through your computer.

Oh, yeah, I'm a real "baller" - Selling $150 demon eye kits to pay through college :dunno:... and you KNOW that after that, the sales of $40 LED kits completely pay for modding the car :rofl:

[lee330sport]

I would also go for the headers & race cats combination - from HAMANN.
But you shouldn't remove the mid-silencer (otherwise you'll lose torque) :tsk:

Greetings from Germany

Daniel

Daniel, just wondering why you would lose torque by removing the mid silencers?

[HighBoostin330]

Daniel, just wondering why you would lose torque by removing the mid silencers?

Back to the theory of backpressure? :hmm:

[db-330Ci]

Daniel, just wondering why you would lose torque by removing the mid silencers?
I saw that the cars (330i / M3) lose torque without
resonator on a few dyno's here in Germany... :rolleyes:

Greetings from Germany

Daniel

[vaio76109]

Oh, yeah, I'm a real "baller" - Selling $150 demon eye kits to pay through college :dunno:... and you KNOW that after that, the sales of $40 LED kits completely pay for modding the car :rofl:
So mommy and daddy paid for your SC'er? :rolleyes:

[Jlevi SW]

#1 I'm partially sponsored by VFEngineering
#2 I'm sure my folks pay for much less of my living expenses than certain indivi.. well.. You get the idea.
If you're mocking me for holding a steady job, mock on.

I still recall when your mom cut me a check for your DDE kit :dunno:

JL

[Nt_loader]

I still recall when your mom cut me a check for your DDE kit :dunno:

JL

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

:owned:

[Jlevi SW]

I didn't mean that insultingly, I remember I had to verify because the two names were different :dunno:

[vaio76109]

I still recall when your mom cut me a check for your DDE kit :dunno:
I did pay for them, but at that time I didnt have a checking account...

[vaio76109]

Need I remind you:
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[2//KmL\\9]

hey guys i have some questions about headers and complete exhaust systems. first if i apply headers and complete system of SS on my 2001 325ci what will be the gains and what will happen on fuel consumption? and does any one have the sound of a ride like i told thankss

[redronin]

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omg you b*tch, stop whining
if you dont want fanatics to know your mom pays for crap then stop throwing shlt in your glass house.....

[vaio76109]

omg you b*tch, stop whining
if you dont want fanatics to know your mom pays for crap then stop throwing shlt in your glass house.....
1.)She doesnt
2.)Learn how to read

[beanfree]

It always amazes me that civilized people have to be so petty and rude. As far as I can see both Vaio and JLevi are wrong. Maybe we can all be a little more thoughtful and considerate of each other's feelings before we commit to writing down a few crass and careless words that wound unnecessarily.

[emthree]

I was going to order the TSE3 setup, but they're ticketing people like crazy in my area. The last thing I need is a ticket over something petty as an exhaust. :cry:

[RalphzMCS]

I was going to order the TSE3 setup, but they're ticketing people like crazy in my area. The last thing I need is a ticket over something petty as an exhaust. :cry:

dam, that sux

[Jlevi SW]

1.)She doesnt
2.)Learn how to read


Have I given out your name, number, address, even your email address? :dunno:
I like what was said above - don't throw stones. I pay for all my expenses - including college tuition, insurance, ...why am I telling you this :dunno:

Ok, this stops ready set now.
JL

[epeart]

Have I given out your name, number, address, even your email address? :dunno:
I like what was said above - don't throw stones. I pay for all my expenses - including college tuition, insurance, ...why am I telling you this :dunno:

Ok, this stops ready set now.
JL
A bit off topic but Jon did the Replacment rings come in for the Enhanced kit yet? :dunno: Ialready ordered them from you.

[vaio76109]

Have I given out your name, number, address, even your email address? :dunno:
I like what was said above - don't throw stones. I pay for all my expenses - including college tuition, insurance, ...why am I telling you this :dunno:

Ok, this stops ready set now.
JL
"Under no circumstances will your information be rented, sold, or given to any outside company unless doing so is necessary to aide the customer, at his or her own consent."
It doesnt matter if its my CC # or how a person paid for an item(or whos name it is under for that matter). It is Confidential and illegal.

[Jlevi SW]

Did I give the name of who sent in payment?
Stop being contentious. Just because I am a sponsor, don't expect to be able to insult me and then cry if I defend myself with an argument that sweeps the foundation from your insult :dunno:

[LewDog]

:lmao: :clap: GO JON!!! seriously, vaio, you started this so just back down. as i said in the members only forum, you made the first attack that was very uncalled for so quit bashing a good sposor/person.

[Jlevi SW]

A bit off topic but Jon did the Replacment rings come in for the Enhanced kit yet? :dunno: Ialready ordered them from you.

Titanium, or Predator? We got both in today :)
JL

[vaio76109]

You gave out private information about a private transaction into a public forum without my consent PERIOD

[Jlevi SW]

I'm sorry that you see my sentence as private information, but it simply wasn't.
The other guys who posted are right - don't run head first into and argument if you aren't ready to take a blow or two.

Now, if you don't mind, can I have my thread back?
More exhaust opinions.

JL

[HRE_///M3]

JL, I know there is a company named Thermal down here in Socal that does exhausts and most likely the Headers and Etc too...not too sure. They are huge in the AUDI and VW department. I am sure they might want to do a sponsorship venture with you to break into the BMW market. Again, I know only that a friend got an exhaust by Thermal and sounds amazing. I am only guess-timating that they might manufacture headers and etc along as well. Hope that helps.

[kris d]

Vaio, stop your whinging mate :cry: you sound like an old woman :shhh: :shhh: :shhh:

[AssassinGT]

You gave out private information about a private transaction into a public forum without my consent PERIOD

lol Dude, shutup. You're just making yourself look worse and worse by each post.

[Jlevi SW]

Still not decided on this one :(

[emthree]

Someone needs to a complete chart comparison with all the popular e46 exhausts on the market. Probably wont happen though :cry:

[Nt_loader]

Still not decided on this one :(
SS no doubt

Setup a group buy, I need something myself :thumbup:

[HighBoostin330]

:werd: SS no doubt!

If you want SS parts please contact Jon@MPerformance or Simon@Lucent Motors. They buy directly from BMP so no middle man except for BMP! I got my entire SS system except for headers from them. Tell them Brian sent ya! :thumbup:

[The 330i]

Hello ASAed330,

:werd: SS no doubt!

If you want SS parts please contact Jon@MPerformance or Simon@Lucent Motors. They buy directly from BMP so no middle man except for BMP! I got my entire SS system except for headers from them. Tell them Brian sent ya! :thumbup:

If the "middle man" issue was so important, why wouldn't anyone simply buy directly from BMP?


Sincerely,

[Nt_loader]

If I tell them Brian sent me will I get a discount?

[Jlevi SW]

Supreme Power buys from BMP too, which is where I normally buy SS stuff for customers.

Anyways, I think I might get a custom setup with a muffler from Highline... if not, SS it is ;)
JL

[bernstem]

SS no doubt

Setup a group buy, I need something myself :thumbup:

I would be up for a group buy - race cats and exhaust.

[HighBoostin330]

If there is enough interest for a SS group buy, I can ask my friend Jon or Simon to setup a SS group buy. They buy straight from BMP so there is no middle man - in a sense. There was a group buy on SS parts awhile ago, and the interest was high. It was setup by m3dragon.

As for why not to buy straight from BMP, they do not give much of a discount on SS parts because they are the official importers of SS parts for North America. Also, SS does not give much of a discount on parts and will get mad at those vendors that give too much of a discount on SS parts. I guess you can say that SS is "anal."

[Solid]

I could use some SS headers

[The 330i]

Hello ASAed330,

If there is enough interest for a SS group buy, I can ask my friend Jon or Simon to setup a SS group buy. They buy straight from BMP so there is no middle man - in a sense. There was a group buy on SS parts awhile ago, and the interest was high. It was setup by m3dragon.

As for why not to buy straight from BMP, they do not give much of a discount on SS parts because they are the official importers of SS parts for North America. Also, SS does not give much of a discount on parts and will get mad at those vendors that give too much of a discount on SS parts. I guess you can say that SS is "anal."

If BMP doesn't give much of a discount on SS parts beacuse they are the official importers of SS parts for North America [breathe], then why would it be cheaper to go with another vendor who buys parts from BMP, who doesn't give much of a discount on SS parts because they are the official importers of SS parts for North America? [breathe, breahte, breathe]

What I don't understand is this:
If it is strictly price that drives someone to buy it from a vendor,
wouldn't it be cheaper to buy directly from BMP, who is the importer?
[Rather than buying from a vendor who buys parts from BMP - although at a discount probably - and re-sell it to a customer]


Sincerely,

[Nt_loader]

Dam Italians :evil:

[bernstem]

If BMP doesn't give much of a discount on SS parts beacuse they are the official importers of SS parts for North America [breathe], then why would it be cheaper to go with another vendor who buys parts from BMP, who doesn't give much of a discount on SS parts because they are the official importers of SS parts for North America? [breathe, breahte, breathe]
Sincerely,

When a reseller buys from BMW, the reseller probably get a wholesale price & BMP takes a marginal markup. The reseller then takes a smaller markup and can sell lower than the retail price. When a consumer buys from BMP, BMW selsl close to the retail price of the headers. If they gave the wholesale price to everyone, supersprint would likely pull their distributer status. Not fair. Doesn't sound much like a free market, but that is the way it is.

Now as for a supersprint group buy...anyone with connections willing to help us out?

[HighBoostin330]

When a reseller buys from BMW, the reseller probably get a wholesale price & BMP takes a marginal markup. The reseller then takes a smaller markup and can sell lower than the retail price. When a consumer buys from BMP, BMW selsl close to the retail price of the headers. If they gave the wholesale price to everyone, supersprint would likely pull their distributer status. Not fair. Doesn't sound much like a free market, but that is the way it is.

Now as for a supersprint group buy...anyone with connections willing to help us out?

:werd: Thanks for writing that explaination bernstem. As for the group buy, I need to gauge interest. So how about those interested send me an email to azn2k4@gmail.com with the title "SS Group Buy". And my friend will determine the pricing or if a group buy will occur. :thumbup:

[Jlevi SW]

I don't want to push anyone around but I've already inquired with my hookup as for an SS group buy.
If Jon can offer better pricing, though, maybe even I will join in.
I have a custom muffler lined up, but the midpipes and such could be beneficial....
JL

[HighBoostin330]

I don't want to push anyone around but I've already inquired with my hookup as for an SS group buy.
If Jon can offer better pricing, though, maybe even I will join in.
I have a custom muffler lined up, but the midpipes and such could be beneficial....
JL

Aren't you Jon? :P

[HighBoostin330]

I got an email from Michael and Daniel. Please include your screen name too. :thumbup:

[meel330]

ss and triflow...crazyy sound, felt the difference

[Jlevi SW]

Aren't you Jon? :P

I'm Jon from Jlevi SW but was referring to Jon from MP.

I will get you guys prices on all the parts you need - just post the Part Numbers. I will run a GB if there is enough interest :)
JL

[silver4dracs]

prices on 99 328i SS headers, cats, resonator please

[Jlevi SW]

I will get all the prices of everything they offer for E46's and then go ahead and post them in the sponsors forum under a GB thread.
Thanks all
JL

[emthree]

SS Sound clips please :dunno:

[HighBoostin330]

SS Sound clips please :dunno:

I can make some, but I have the whole system so it might sound different if you only get headers or only exhaust.

[emthree]

I can make some, but I have the whole system so it might sound different if you only get headers or only exhaust.
That would rock, I'm sure the forum members would love to hear it too :thumbup:
I was thinking of only doing the exhaust, but what the hell. :idea: :lmao:

I would think that SS allready created promotional sound and video clips, but I cant seem to find them anywhere. Does anyone know or have a link or something?:dunno:
emthree@gmail.com

[JCz04Bimmer]

This is an easy question...

TSE3.

[Nick@Jlevi SW]

This is an easy question...

TSE3.
Jon has seen the load of crap from that company first hand, from a loud and windy SSK to the POS PVC pipe they call the TSE2. I know he is not about to buy that "high quality" metal.

[Jlevi SW]

Yeah I have to admit... not happening.
My SSK still whines :cry:

[vaio76109]

Yeah I have to admit... not happening.
My SSK still whines :cry:
What do you mean whine? I noticed my RE SSK made a second gear whine when i first got it. I dont notice it anymore, althought I might just have grown accustomed to it.

[Jlevi SW]

What do you mean whine? I noticed my RE SSK made a second gear whine when i first got it. I dont notice it anymore, althought I might just have grown accustomed to it.

Exactly - when i SLAM it into 2nd it whines.
If I rest my hand on the shifter in 2nd or 4th, it whines. I've learned to overlook it, but it still is a little discomforting :dunno:

[JCz04Bimmer]

Exactly - when i SLAM it into 2nd it whines.
If I rest my hand on the shifter in 2nd or 4th, it whines. I've learned to overlook it, but it still is a little discomforting :dunno:
Can honestly say that I've had the UUC Evo3 on my car for over 30k miles (basically since I got the car) and NEVER have I heard any kind of whine at all. No rattle, nothing. The only difference is the obvious shorter throws and a bit more effort required to put it into gear. Perhaps there is an updated part you're missing or perhaps the installation was not done 100% correct.

Jon has seen the load of crap from that company first hand, from a loud and windy SSK to the POS PVC pipe they call the TSE2. I know he is not about to buy that "high quality" metal.
I sense some biased hostility here. I was simply submitting my opinion that I'm sure hordes of people agree with me on. The TSE3, not the TSE2, offers the most advanced exhaust system available for the 325/330. No drone at ANY rev point. Deep throaty growl when you get on the gas. Flawless fitment. Good looking tips. And all of this from a company (Corsa) that has been making exhausts for ages and with design assisted by a company (UUC) that I feel has produced nothing but top notch components.

I've had the TSE3 on my car longer than anyone given that it was the first production quality model to go on any car. For the many miles I've had it, I've never had a negative comment from anyone and have never had second thoughts. I've heard everything from the Rogue parts to the SS to the Remus and Borla offerings. None offer the quality and sound of the TSE3. The Rogue comes close in terms of its throatiness but it lacks refinement. In my opinion it adds a hint of "honda" tones to the exhaust note. The TSE3 gargles when you blip the throttle at idle. It goes silent at highway speeds. Under deceleration (foot off the throttle, slowly reducing speed), it gives a mild growl. It doesn't even drone when you dog the engine at like 1500rpms if you're in the wrong gear! The STOCK exhausts even drone!

It is expensive, yes. But this isn't a piece of PVC (nor was the TSE2). Its a full cat-back exhaust that employs a completely different method of sound deadening. Its worth it. Listen to it, see if you like it. I bet you will.

[Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks]

I was going to order the TSE3 setup, but they're ticketing people like crazy in my area. The last thing I need is a ticket over something petty as an exhaust. :cry:

TSE3 is certified SAE J1169-compliant. That means it is 100% legal in CA, NY, and other states that have adopted the standard as the conformity measurement. It's doubtful you'd get a ticket... and if you do, it's an easy fight with the compliancy certificate.

For more info on SAE J1169 certification, please see:

http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/tse3

- Rob

[Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks]

Yeah I have to admit... not happening.
My SSK still whines :cry:


Jlevi, you know better... call us and we'll make it right.

- Rob

[Jlevi SW]

Jlevi, you know better... call us and we'll make it right.

- Rob

Rob,
I greatly apreciate the offer, but it's something I've learned to live with. I'm not eager to get under the car any time soon :(

JL

[Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks]

Rob,
I greatly apreciate the offer, but it's something I've learned to live with. I'm not eager to get under the car any time soon :(

JL

Ah... you've made the assumption that the "fix" involves getting under the car.

It doesn't.

99% of the things that would cause sound as you describe are addressed from inside the car. That's the kind of thing you find out when you call for free technical assistance, hint-hint. :D

- Rob

[emthree]

TSE3 is certified SAE J1169-compliant. That means it is 100% legal in CA, NY, and other states that have adopted the standard as the conformity measurement. It's doubtful you'd get a ticket... and if you do, it's an easy fight with the compliancy certificate.

For more info on SAE J1169 certification, please see:

http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/tse3

- Rob
Do you guys provide the documents stating that this exhaust is fully compliant?

The cops around my way really don't give a ****, they just drive around looking for exhausts that "look" loud. Maybe with some proof, they will look elsewhere to fill their quota. I have a friend who has gotten his fair share of summons and tickets due to his TSE2.

[Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks]

Do you guys provide the documents stating that this exhaust is fully compliant?

Available for download right here:

http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/tse3/SAEJ1169_TSE3.gif

The cops around my way really don't give a ****, they just drive around looking for exhausts that "look" loud. Maybe with some proof, they will look elsewhere to fill their quota. I have a friend who has gotten his fair share of summons and tickets due to his TSE2.

Quite frankly, a dedicated co-effort on the part of the aftermarket (such as UUC/Corsa building the systems to be compliant) and the enthusiast community community (you guys!) to "push back" against unreasonable ticketing/harassment will have a noticeably positive effect. Give those ticket-happy "revenue collectors" something to think about before they pull over the next BMW with what may be a 100% legal exhaust system.

I bet that not one of the "loud exhaust" tickets given in your area was given by an officer with any sort of sound-measuring device. That's the problem - "subjective" laws without being put up to a standard, and the car enthusiasts just pay the ticket. Fight back legally and the cops will start chasing the real bad guys instead of harassing innocent motorists.

- Rob

[HighBoostin330]

Okay guys, my other friend is willing to do a super special on SuperSprint parts. If you want in email me your BMW model and the parts you want at azn2k4@gmail.com

[NY323i]

Hey Rob,how bout a special summer special on the TSE3, or a loyal customer special :bow:

[Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks]

Hey Rob,how bout a special summer special on the TSE3, or a loyal customer special :bow:

Would love to... but I have to clarify something every now and then.

UUC does not do "group buys" or "specials" (unless extended to dealers). We have a relationship with our dealer network that MSRP is the selling price - no fooling around with GBs or anything, as UUC is the "M", we "S" the "RP" and don't play around with numbers.

However, if one of the UUC dealers who is a sponsor of the board wants to do some sort of shipping special or package-bundle pricing, then that's entirely up to them (hint, hint - contact your board sponsors!).

- Rob

[emthree]

Hey Rob,how bout a special summer special on the TSE3, or a loyal customer special :bow:
:werd:
Someone get a sponsor to jump on this!
I'm in, unless I pick up something else within a month :shhh:

[NY323i]

Im in,Cmon UUC, i need to continue adding your products to my list of UUC purchases :cry:

[emthree]

Im in,Cmon UUC, i need to continue adding your products to my list of UUC purchases :cry:
Need to PM some UUC Board Sponsors to get this going.
I'm not exactly sure who's a UUC Dealer, or I would have done it. :hmm:

[Jlevi SW]

If you guys don't mind, I'll kindly take my thread back :P

I'm probably going to go with a Highline Muffler (I'll test it for them) and then have Precision Mufflers make me catback piping... :)

Thoughts?
JL

[jon330ciZHP]

You gave out private information about a private transaction into a public forum without my consent PERIOD


man, ****....u're only *****ing cuz you didn't pay for jack...now leave JON alone!!!

or could it just be u want more post counts? :ghey: :flipoff:

[bernstem]

If you guys don't mind, I'll kindly take my thread back :P

I'm probably going to go with a Highline Muffler (I'll test it for them) and then have Precision Mufflers make me catback piping... :)

Thoughts?
JL

No headers? If you are looking for performance with any sort of FI, the big restrictor is the stock headers. That is the first thing to replace for performance - if all you want is sound, the it doesn't matter.

What about Headers, high flow CAT (not SS - can be had for $300-400 - Precision Muffler can probably get some for you) dual straight pipes (custom by Precision Mufflers) to exhaust? Keep the system as open as possible for best flow - thus no Y pipe.

mike

[redronin]

Im in,Cmon UUC, i need to continue adding your products to my list of UUC purchases :cry:

just do it (this goes to you and jon if hes still subjective on exhaust)

the TSE3 is the greatest exhaust ive heard in person yet.
im not gonna go through why, because its already been said.
but fitment is especially nice, since me, a noob, installed it myself flawlessly.

i cant believe someone called it a POS......could it be you cant afford it and its a little jealousy seeping through?


in any case. this is the first time ive heard of these "highline?" mufflers jon
do you hav any pics or sound clips?

and is it like a standard tip or are you going to custom chose which tip your gonna put on ...if so which one?
(please dont say those ones that bend up :puke: )

[Jlevi SW]

It's just straight tips... i'm not really sure what I'm going to do... I'll figure it out when I get to precision.
If I don't like it I can always call Rob and go with a TSE3

Thanks all
JL

[bernstem]

It's just straight tips... i'm not really sure what I'm going to do... I'll figure it out when I get to precision.
If I don't like it I can always call Rob and go with a TSE3

Thanks all
JL

I still say that replacing the headers is the thing to do. If you don't want to do the full headers thing, dual straight pipes to the muffler is the way to go (this is essentially what the TSE3 is).

mike

[Jlevi SW]

Headers are costly, and I'm worried about having problems with them... so that's going to be on the backburner for a while.

[HighBoostin330]

Headers are costly, and I'm worried about having problems with them... so that's going to be on the backburner for a while.

What problems?! :hmm: Mines work perfectly fine without ANY problems. Love the sound too. :drool:

[2003330i]

What problems?! :hmm: Mines work perfectly fine without ANY problems. Love the sound too. :drool:


is anyone doing a group by for the headers.

[HighBoostin330]

is anyone doing a group by for the headers.

My friend is doing a special on SuperSprint parts. Email me what parts you need and I will email you back a quote. For those that have emailed me their request, my friend is a little backed up. Once I receive the quotes, I will email it out to the requestees.

[Solid]

Hurry :) I just got my new LWF+Cluttch but want to install it with new headers at the same time. :)

My friend is doing a special on SuperSprint parts. Email me what parts you need and I will email you back a quote. For those that have emailed me their request, my friend is a little backed up. Once I receive the quotes, I will email it out to the requestees.

[HighBoostin330]

Hurry :) I just got my new LWF+Cluttch but want to install it with new headers at the same time. :)

Email sent Daniel. :thumbup:

[pimpn04coupe]

Can honestly say that I've had the UUC Evo3 on my car for over 30k miles (basically since I got the car) and NEVER have I heard any kind of whine at all. No rattle, nothing. The only difference is the obvious shorter throws and a bit more effort required to put it into gear. Perhaps there is an updated part you're missing or perhaps the installation was not done 100% correct.


I sense some biased hostility here. I was simply submitting my opinion that I'm sure hordes of people agree with me on. The TSE3, not the TSE2, offers the most advanced exhaust system available for the 325/330. No drone at ANY rev point. Deep throaty growl when you get on the gas. Flawless fitment. Good looking tips. And all of this from a company (Corsa) that has been making exhausts for ages and with design assisted by a company (UUC) that I feel has produced nothing but top notch components.

I've had the TSE3 on my car longer than anyone given that it was the first production quality model to go on any car. For the many miles I've had it, I've never had a negative comment from anyone and have never had second thoughts. I've heard everything from the Rogue parts to the SS to the Remus and Borla offerings. None offer the quality and sound of the TSE3. The Rogue comes close in terms of its throatiness but it lacks refinement. In my opinion it adds a hint of "honda" tones to the exhaust note. The TSE3 gargles when you blip the throttle at idle. It goes silent at highway speeds. Under deceleration (foot off the throttle, slowly reducing speed), it gives a mild growl. It doesn't even drone when you dog the engine at like 1500rpms if you're in the wrong gear! The STOCK exhausts even drone!

It is expensive, yes. But this isn't a piece of PVC (nor was the TSE2). Its a full cat-back exhaust that employs a completely different method of sound deadening. Its worth it. Listen to it, see if you like it. I bet you will.

sounded like a great uuc comercial, thank you :bow:

but seriously though, did they ever release an actual dyno chart of before and after or is uuc still againt dyno charts? i really like the fact that it is ca legal though :) im worried about my exhaust

[Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks]

but seriously though, did they ever release an actual dyno chart of before and after or is uuc still againt dyno charts? i really like the fact that it is ca legal though :) im worried about my exhaust

We're all for dyno charts... but without "absolute" numbers. Customers make the mistake of comparing results from different tests and fool themselves. Different cars (same model) will be stronger or weaker, and different dynos are set up or calibrated differently. As I've said before - only a fool compares dyno numbers from different cars and dynos.

As long as you look at percentage improvements and, even more importantly, shape of the curve (which affects drivability), then you can learn things from a dyno chart.

- Rob

[C Digital 323CI]

If you guys don't mind, I'll kindly take my thread back :P

I'm probably going to go with a Highline Muffler (I'll test it for them) and then have Precision Mufflers make me catback piping... :)

Thoughts?
JL
^ Jon, I haven't heard of that type of muffler, but I say "Go for it!" It'd be nice to get a taste of something new in regards to exhaust. You better be ready to post drive by sound clips, stand-still clips and of course vids. Can't wait to see what you do. Good luck Bro.