DA-motorsport, e46 TURBO!!!!

[redronin]

whats up guys, wondering about an opinion

my dad promised me FI around the holidays, and was originally gonna go the used SC market since they are cheap but yesterday i got this PM



so now im thinking of going either the turbo route, since they are so much more pimp, ooooor since i would be shelling out the extra money, just thinkin of saving myself some time and getting an 02 m3 off the classidieds w/ ~40k


figure my car is 45k right now, could get around 28k? plus the 7 id spend on a turbo = a used m3?

what do you think, the 330turbo would be sleeper as hell

[redronin]

allo Redronin,

We will be finishing a 3.30ci turbocharger kit soon.

There will be three stages for the 3.30ci:

Stage 1: 360 hp-342 lb/ft. Price 6.200 USD
- Boost pressure 8 psi ( 0,55 bar)
- Standard compression ratio


Stage 2: 410 hp-400 lb/ft. Price 7.200 USD
- Boost pressure 12 psi ( 0,8 bar)
- Lowered compression ratio with a thicker Multi Layer Steel head gasket
- DA MOTORSPORT cylinder head studs
- DA MOTORSORT connecting rod bolts
- Manual transmission equipped E46 only

Stage 3: 530 hp-515lb/ft. Price 12.800 USD
- Boost pressure 22 psi ( 1,5 bar)
- Forged pistons
- Forged connecting rods
- DA MOTORSPORT cylinder head studs
- DA MOTORSPORT crankshaft main bearing studs
- Manual transmission equipped E46 only

This is our turbocharger program.

There will be options.

We are about to finish our webpage soon.

No supercharger kit can produce even the turbocharger stage 1 power. Superchargers consume power from the engine, and superchargers' maximum boost pressure comes at near maximum engine speed.

Best regards

Mert DASTAN
DA TEAM CHIEF
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S50B32 & Garrett GT42 = 1.000 hp M3 Coupe

S50B32 & Garett GT4590 = 900 hp M3 Sedan (under construction, fastest 4 door M3)

by DA MOTORSPORT

www.da-motorsport.com

[vinnymac]

22 psi of boost on a M54?

What is the reliability for a motor pushed that hard?

[redronin]

22 psi of boost on a M54?

What is the reliability for a motor pushed that hard?

they have to completely rebuild the motor, forged

[ksuen21]

damn, if that shiet is true, stage two looks like a good kit for me. in fact it should be DA SHIET. hahaha! do they have a shop in the US though???

[Stealthwagen]

Nope, NOT an M54. It's an S50 with lowered compression via custom head gasket. Also forged pistons & rods & custom rod bolts, ++++.

Gotta be a grenade in any case.

[lee330sport]

Nope, NOT an M54. It's an S50 with lowered compression via custom head gasket. Also forged pistons & rods & custom rod bolts, ++++.

Gotta be a grenade in any case.

No its not. This is there new kit for the M54.

[Stealthwagen]

No its not. This is there new kit for the M54.

I stand corrected. I was reading DA's website. Guess they'll be offering kits for the E46 with similar specs to those currently sold for the E36 engines.

Still can't beleive you can push over 500 hp/ftlbs through one of these engines and have it survive for very long. That's 1.7 bhp/l which is well into race prepped territory & engines tuned to that level are rebuilt frequently.

Best of luck though :thumbup:

[Hung@Fiber-D]

I'll take stage 2 please. :pimpin:

[iLLM3]

Go for the Stg. 2 turbo kit, you will love boost, believe me!! :D

[redronin]

Go for the Stg. 2 turbo kit, you will love boost, believe me!! :D


was thinkin maybe stage one since stage 2 would require engine mods
and crap


but the m3 is sooooo tempting, i know i will love boost but m3 is suuuch a high pimp factor, and i think i would get way more @$$ in the m3, :rofl:

[GarrettF]

I was hopng the price was going to be nearer to the originally posted price... oh well.. i will prob go for stage 1 myseelf and when i need more get the stage 2 upgrade... i am sure it will be an option!

[TaZaM3]

Once you go inside the engine of a BMW it cannot be a daily driven car. Thats the way i feel about it. Its not worth opening up the engine unless you want to just have the HP but cant drive it as much.

[GarrettF]

so if i add schrick cams to my car i cant drive it daily?

[xS3x]

i'm still wondering how they are going to go around the ECU for US spec cars..every company has failed so far :loco:

[TaZaM3]

so if i add schrick cams to my car i cant drive it daily?

Well i meant more of the pistons and such. Even the thicker head gasket way is not really good. Sometimes leaks can be easily caused by just adding a thicker head gasket.

There are many different cams. Street cams can be used for daily driving but I still wouldnt want to. The more aggressive cams will be horrible to drive daily.

[HighBoostin330]

i'm still wondering how they are going to go around the ECU for US spec cars..every company has failed so far :loco:

Only time will tell Jesse. Let's just wait it out. If they suceed then they are the first, but if they fail, they are like the rest. What about your car Jesse? Release date yet?

[meel330]

stg 3 here i come :eeps:

[HighBoostin330]

stg 3 here i come :eeps:

Someone's addicted to boost. :pimpin:

[Lay2Low]

Their price just keeps on going up and up

[DA-MOTORSPORT]

Hallo to everyone,

1- E46 stage 1,2 and 3 will all be daily driven kits.

2- the 3.30ci that we will turbocharge will come from Kuwait. Customer made the downpayment and the car will be brought on a tow truck.

3-nowadays we have a M3 at the shop which is under surgery for 900 hp turbo kits. This M3 Euro is from Paris.
Another euro M3 will be here from England for the 900 hp kit.

4- we will produce a 900 hp E36 non M car turbocharger kit. This is for a customer from Uruguay with a 3.25i. We will increase displacement to 2.8L with fully forged bottom end, serious valvetrain mods, and cylinder head work. 8500-9000 rpm is the max rpm and we will boost 35psi. This project has started and we need 2 months as all parts are hand made or custom made. This is similar to Skyline Nissans which upgrade from 2.6L to 2.8L. We will be preparing a webpage for this beauty too. A pure forged racing engine: even the oil sump studs are modified.......

5- next week there will be a detailed PRODUCT webpage for E46 on www.da-motorsport.com

6- after modifying bimmers at 900 hp levels and sending them back to their countries where they race each day, drive each day with NO problems, a 500 hp fully forged M54 turbocharged is an easy project for us.

7- we have promised to produce a Z4 3.0L turbo kit. And we did it. Now we will fulfill our word and finish the E46 3.20-3.23-3.25-3.28-3.30 turbocharger kits.

Best regards

Mert DASTAN

[DA-MOTORSPORT]

Basically the Z4 3.0L turbocharger kit is almost the same as the E46 3.0L turbocharger kit.

Intercooler piping and some little extras constitute the differences.

http://www.da-motorsport.com/projeler/turboz4/turboz4_en.htm

All we need was a E46 and we are welcoming the baby for some pressurized air....Every part such as the exhaust manifold, turbocharger, injectors, intercooler, engine management system is ready on our shelf.

Mert DASTAN
DA TeaM Chief

[jasyn]

oh baby can't wait ^_^

[Mr Paddle.Shift]

6- after modifying bimmers at 900 hp levels and sending them back to their countries where they race each day, drive each day with NO problems, a 500 hp fully forged M54 turbocharged is an easy project for us.


Mert,

I am a track junkie.

Just trying to clarify something. When you said "they race each day", what exactly are you referring to? Motorsport endurance full blown bumper to bumper kind of racing? Or just a mere street show-off?

Please elaborate.

[RalphzMCS]

Their price just keeps on going up and up

price still isn't bad though IMO considering turboing e46s aren't common

[Lay2Low]

For sure it is not unreasonable, just from what they initially thought they were going to come out at and now...I dont think a G is going to stop me from the kit haha.

[TaZaM3]

DA-MOTORSPORT I see you also do supercharging. You used the ASA blower on a S50B32, which size blower did you use? TM-17, TM-20?

Edit just saw it. TM-20HD. Thats a pretty powerful blower, designed more for V8's. Which ASA do you think a S54 engine can handle (stock internals).

[redronin]

DAM

will the stage 2 be smooth enough to drive as my ONLY car, and will it decrease the life of the motor? im going to need this car for years to come



will your shop do the install? is it possible for other shops to do the install?
where are you located?

and finally how much will your shop charge to install a stage 1 or 2?

redronin
FI hopeful

[Dev]

Stage 5, here I come!!
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_2_31.gif

[AssassinGT]

I'll be waiting for the damn 323 version 2.5L :) Stage1

[Iceman1]

are these all applicable to US Spec OBD II engines?

[lee330sport]

DAM

will the stage 2 be smooth enough to drive as my ONLY car, and will it decrease the life of the motor? im going to need this car for years to come



will your shop do the install? is it possible for other shops to do the install?
where are you located?

and finally how much will your shop charge to install a stage 1 or 2?

redronin
FI hopeful

His shop is in Turkey.lol

Stage 2 sounds cool. I might go for this setup.

[DA-MOTORSPORT]

Mr.Paddle Shift:
Race every night on the highway, shift like a wild boy as if you will breake the shifter, rev till redline, 0-150 mph testing.
10 times from 0 to 150 mph or from 80 to 160 mph. Test the complete system at the highway as the loads at higher speeds are challenging and our cars survive.

[DA-MOTORSPORT]

TAZAM3,

yes we use ASA superchargers and they are wondeful supercharger units.

But we are trying to steer away from superchargers as much as possible. Why if ASA makes wonderful superchargers we stay away?

BECAUSE turbos make full boost at 3000 rpm and this is never possible with a centrifugal supercharger. Superchargers full boost comes at near the redline. We have boosted many bimmers and the final conclusion is TURBOCHARGERS. As superchargers steel power from the crankshaft they make less power at the same boost pressure comapred to a turbo.

Moroever, on a turbocharged system we try to limit boost pressure by wastegates, opening the wastegate to decrease boost. But on a supercharged system it is not so easy to increase boost pressure "from a point on" as the belt slippage happen. V belt slips, supercharger is overrevved and etc.

If I were you I would not spoil my M3 with a supercharger. I know your M3 is faster than a stock M3 with the sc. But imagine what would happen if a turbocharger system would be under your hood?

We will definetely produce a E46 M3 turbocharger kit when a E46 M3 comes to us.

One last point: if you drive an excellently designed supercharged BMW and an excellently designed turbocharged BMW, you will understand what I am talking about. Cannot describe with words.

Mert

[DA-MOTORSPORT]

will the stage 2 be smooth enough to drive as my ONLY car, and will it decrease the life of the motor? im going to need this car for years to come

will your shop do the install? is it possible for other shops to do the install?
where are you located?

and finally hpw much will your shop charge to install a stage 1 or 2?

redronin
FI hopeful
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Redronin, stage 2 and 3 are so smooth like a factory BMW.

The wear and tear on the piston rings and cylinder bore accelerates as the bimmer gets boosted. But will you drive the car for 200.000 miles? This kit can be used for at least 100.000 miles without opening the engine.

A good shop in USA can do the install. This is a bolt on system.

We are in Istanbul Turkey.

[DA-MOTORSPORT]

Iceman,

E46 turbocharger kits are applicable for all US E46 models, except the diesel E46 :)

Mert DASTAN
DA TeaM Chief

[HighBoostin330]

I hope you tune this awesome setup for the crappy 91 octane we get here in California. :banghead:

[DA-MOTORSPORT]

Yes, the software will be tuned for the 91 octane fuel.

Turbocharger's efficiency, intercooler's cooling capacity, good air fuel ratios and reprogrammed ignition timing are the key for using 91 octane.

[lee330sport]

Yes, the software will be tuned for the 91 octane fuel.

Turbocharger's efficiency, intercooler's cooling capacity, good air fuel ratios and reprogrammed ignition timing are the key for using 91 octane.

So i guess the outputs will be different for the UK's 98 octane? What fuel are the figures quoted on?

[DA-MOTORSPORT]

Lee,

Stage 2 and 3 are applicable for 95 octane and over 95 octane.

Stage 1 kits will make the same power at each fuel octane from 91 to 98 octane as we will increase boost pressure slightly on the stage 1 kits to get the same power, at the same time play with ignition.

MERT

[HighBoostin330]

Lee,

Stage 2 and 3 are applicable for 95 octane and over 95 octane.

Stage 1 kits will make the same power at each fuel octane from 91 to 98 octane as we will increase boost pressure slightly on the stage 1 kits to get the same power, at the same time play with ignition.

MERT

Man! So if people are looking for the Stage 2 and 3 kit, they need to fill up with 95+ octane right?

[GarrettF]

our octane rating system and their octane rating system is different

what about us with access to 94 octane all the time... we get different software?

[Iceman1]

our octane rating system and their octane rating system is different

what about us with access to 94 octane all the time... we get different software?

can the TSI piggyback EMS be updated with uploadable software maps? for ex. 1 map for US 93 octane, and another map for US 103 octane unleaded race gas?

this would mean providing the map's on a CD and us uploading it through our OBD II port...

can TSI be interfaced with a boost controller?

how much boost can the stage I run on a Steptronic? any HP #'s for the automatic?

thanks.

[tas]

:)

[Fiber-Design]

So.... who's going to be the 1st in the state to have this?

[TaZaM3]

TAZAM3,

yes we use ASA superchargers and they are wondeful supercharger units.

But we are trying to steer away from superchargers as much as possible. Why if ASA makes wonderful superchargers we stay away?

BECAUSE turbos make full boost at 3000 rpm and this is never possible with a centrifugal supercharger. Superchargers full boost comes at near the redline. We have boosted many bimmers and the final conclusion is TURBOCHARGERS. As superchargers steel power from the crankshaft they make less power at the same boost pressure comapred to a turbo.

Moroever, on a turbocharged system we try to limit boost pressure by wastegates, opening the wastegate to decrease boost. But on a supercharged system it is not so easy to increase boost pressure "from a point on" as the belt slippage happen. V belt slips, supercharger is overrevved and etc.

If I were you I would not spoil my M3 with a supercharger. I know your M3 is faster than a stock M3 with the sc. But imagine what would happen if a turbocharger system would be under your hood?

We will definetely produce a E46 M3 turbocharger kit when a E46 M3 comes to us.

One last point: if you drive an excellently designed supercharged BMW and an excellently designed turbocharged BMW, you will understand what I am talking about. Cannot describe with words.

Mert

Mert, I agree with what you said. I know in fact the Turbo can make much more power. It is also aot of strain on the S54 with stock internals. I chose not to open up the engine and just do the Active Autowerke SC kit. Also i like how the SC feels becuase it still has the same powerband as stock. I think ill just have some fun for the time being then open up the engine and do a turbo. Keep me posted with S54 news. Do you think the S54 can go turbo without lowered compression?

[bimmerchop]

You know, I was shopping around for a SC kit, but it now looks like I'll be waiting for the turbo :D

[Lay2Low]

You know, I was shopping around for a SC kit, but it now looks like I'll be waiting for the turbo :D
:hi: Im with you my man!

[redronin]

:hi: Im with you my man!

same here, hoping by holidays someone has this and can give me some feedback before i make my final decision

[iLLM3]

TAZAM3,

yes we use ASA superchargers and they are wondeful supercharger units.

But we are trying to steer away from superchargers as much as possible. Why if ASA makes wonderful superchargers we stay away?

BECAUSE turbos make full boost at 3000 rpm and this is never possible with a centrifugal supercharger. Superchargers full boost comes at near the redline. We have boosted many bimmers and the final conclusion is TURBOCHARGERS. As superchargers steel power from the crankshaft they make less power at the same boost pressure comapred to a turbo.

Moroever, on a turbocharged system we try to limit boost pressure by wastegates, opening the wastegate to decrease boost. But on a supercharged system it is not so easy to increase boost pressure "from a point on" as the belt slippage happen. V belt slips, supercharger is overrevved and etc.

If I were you I would not spoil my M3 with a supercharger. I know your M3 is faster than a stock M3 with the sc. But imagine what would happen if a turbocharger system would be under your hood?

We will definetely produce a E46 M3 turbocharger kit when a E46 M3 comes to us.

One last point: if you drive an excellently designed supercharged BMW and an excellently designed turbocharged BMW, you will understand what I am talking about. Cannot describe with words.

Mert

Mert that is very true, i do not have first hand experience comparing a turbo to sc M3 obviously LOL, but i cant even imagine what it must be like.. Im doing this for now, in hope a company such as yours will come around and make the impossible, possible! Believe me, get it going and i will be the first in the US to do it/have it :thumbup:

[Will Pwr]

Mert, I agree with what you said. I know in fact the Turbo can make much more power. It is also aot of strain on the S54 with stock internals. I chose not to open up the engine and just do the Active Autowerke SC kit. Also i like how the SC feels becuase it still has the same powerband as stock. I think ill just have some fun for the time being then open up the engine and do a turbo. Keep me posted with S54 news. Do you think the S54 can go turbo without lowered compression?

Vik,

Contact me in private ASAP!

Will

[iLLM3]

Vik,

Contact me in private ASAP!

Will

Dammit no secrets, relay the message to me LOL :thumbup:

[AssassinGT]

Out of curiosity, would it be in my best interest to swap to a manual for this kit? and do you have any estimates as to what a 2.5L will put out?

[JimBOT]

Out of curiosity, would it be in my best interest to swap to a manual for this kit? and do you have any estimates as to what a 2.5L will put out?

It would be in your best interest to trade in for a 330 manual and then get the turbo :thumbup:

[DA-MOTORSPORT]

ICEMAN:

can the TSI piggyback EMS be updated with uploadable software maps? for ex. 1 map for US 93 octane, and another map for US 103 octane unleaded race gas?

this would mean providing the map's on a CD and us uploading it through our OBD II port...

can TSI be interfaced with a boost controller?

how much boost can the stage I run on a Steptronic? any HP #'s for the automatic?

thanks.

Iceman: TSI can store as many maps as your laptop can. Meaning that you can save 10000000s of maps on your laptop and download anytime you want.
TSI works with a boost controller. A selenoid is connected to TSI and TSI controls boost according to your entried into the software.

Steptronic E46 runs at 5.1 psi.


Mert DASTAN
DA TeaM Chief

[DA-MOTORSPORT]

TAZA M3,

We will use forged pistons and con rods once we will turbocharge the S54. S54 had problems in stock trim so we will not risk ourselves with the stock engine. Complete forged bottom end will be welcoming 30 psi of boost for stage 2 S54 turbo kit and a 22 psi stage 1 turbo kit will complete the project.

Lowering compression does not seem safe for us on the S54.

MERT DASTAN
DA TeaM Chief

[DA-MOTORSPORT]

Bimmerchop: Wait, it is worth the time :)

[DA-MOTORSPORT]

ASSASINGT:

Manual tranny swap and more boost means more torque and power.

For the 2.5L we will offer the following turbocharger kits:

325i DA Turbocharger Kit

Stage 1 310 HP / 375 nM 6.200 USD

Stage 2 350 HP / 440 nM 7.200 USD

Stage 3 450 hp / 560 nM 11.400 USD

Only for manual transmission equipped 2.5L.


MERT DASTAN
DA TeaM Chief

[///OSS]

ASSASINGT:

Manual tranny swap and more boost means more torque and power.

For the 2.5L we will offer the following turbocharger kits:

325i DA Turbocharger Kit

Stage 1 310 HP / 375 nM 6.200 USD

Stage 2 350 HP / 440 nM 7.200 USD

Stage 3 450 hp / 560 nM 11.400 USD

Only for manual transmission equipped 2.5L.


MERT DASTAN
DA TeaM Chief


can you do that stage 2 on a 325CI steptronic? or stage 1 is the only one?

[DA-MOTORSPORT]

2.5L SMG can have the Stage 2 turbocharger kit.

Steptronic 2.5L has 5.1 psi maximum so, stage 1.

[redronin]

is there a tentative release date for these kits?
are we talking this summer, late 05, or later?

[DarXide]

can you do that stage 2 on a 325CI steptronic? or stage 1 is the only one?

Luis... just

[Iceman1]

TSI can store as many maps as your laptop can. Meaning that you can save 10000000s of maps on your laptop and download anytime you want.
TSI works with a boost controller. A selenoid is connected to TSI and TSI controls boost according to your entried into the software.


will your provide maps to our specifications? or will your provide interfaces to the TSI software for our local dyno tuner to "tune" the software for new mods we get in the future, such as cams or internals?


Lowering compression does not seem safe for us on the S54.

MERT DASTAN
DA TeaM Chief

please elaborate... is it due to the 22psi? i mean even your stage I is considered big boost... can the S54 stock internals run ~ 8 - 14 psi with lowered compression?

any "low" boost applications planned to compete with existing S/C kits...

thanks... if all this is for real... keep up the great work... your paving the way for a whole new level of E46 tuning/modifying... :thumbup: :bow:

[DA-MOTORSPORT]

REDRONIN,

The production date is very clear.

3.30ci convertible goes out of Kuwait on monday morning. I guess it ll take 4-5 days as it is brought on a tow car.

We have the turbocharger, exhaust manifold, engine management system, intercooler, wastegate, blow off valves (2 bovs are used) and 75% of the details on shelf ready. All we need to do is produce a complete new intercooler PIPING, lower compression, use appropriate fuel components and map the car.

This will be finished by the 15 th of july.

One good news: An ALUMINIUM INTAKE MANIFOLD FOR THE E46 WILL BE PRODUCED. THIS MANIFOLD WILL BE BOTH FOR THE SUPERCHARGED AND TURBOCHARGED E46. (Today we are producing an aluminium intake manifold for the E36 US M3s and E36 non M3s.)

As a conclusion, an aluminium intake manifold, with runners that are optimized for better flow and an enlarged intake plenum will complete the E46 turbocharger kit. The alu intake manifold will be heat insulated against heat soaks during hot summer stop and go traffic.

MERT DASTAN
DA TeaM Chief

[DA-MOTORSPORT]

ICEMAN:

will your provide maps to our specifications? or will your provide interfaces to the TSI software for our local dyno tuner to "tune" the software for new mods we get in the future, such as cams or internals?

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We will provide maps but not for cams etc. As we do not know the cam specs, we cannot offer a map. Best solution is to send the software of TSI and a tuner uses a laptop and a wide band lambda to re-map the car. TSI software is so user friendly that an enthusiast with NO dyno, but with a wide band lambda sensor, an exhaust gas temperature kit can remap the car. The TSI software is very easy and has no adapters. Just a laptop, a USB cable and you are in the TSI menu.

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please elaborate... is it due to the 22psi? i mean even your stage I is considered big boost... can the S54 stock internals run ~ 8 - 14 psi with lowered compression?

As many of us know E46 M3 engine named S54 had problems even in stock trim. And even a 65 year old calm E46 experienced problems with S54. We have a good reputation and will never risk the name of DA MOTORSPORT in sake of more power. But we will turbocharge S54, when one E46 M3 arrives one day, with forged internals and all of our expertise, even for low boost applications such as 22 psi. With forged internals, modified and coated bearings, main studs, head studs, moly and ceramic coatings we will be making a bullet proof S54 and boosting on top of it.

Look at ASA INFINITAS: they are the best SUPERCHARGER producer in the world. And they did not touch S54. Why? As far as I know ASA INFINITAS knows the risks of S54 and steers away from S54. By the way we as DA MOTORSPORT still use ASA INFINITAS superchargers in our own supercharger kits for the S50B30 and B32. Great superchargers.

I need to go to work and work on the projects.

BTW we have a 2.8L 1000 hp project. This is a 3.25i E36 from URUGUAY. We are upgrading to 2.8L engine. Light weight forged con rods, J.E pistons, crankshaft shot peened and counter weights radiused. Oil holes chamfered. Solid rollers, bigger intake and exhaust valves, titanium retainers and stiffer valve springs, DA spec camshafts and a 8500 rpm maximum engine speed, with a Garrett GT series hand made ball bearing turbocharger at 32 psi of boost pressure will net 1000 hp at the flywheel. Yes this project has started. We will put it on our webpage. We are getting wild.... Similar to Nissan Skylines which bore from 2.6L to 2.8L....


DA TeaM Chief

Mert DASTAN

[NorCal BMWBoy]

ohhhhh mannnn! i can see this getting a whole lot of ppl in trouble !!!! STAGE 2 AND 3 r ridulous !!!! OMG i'll keep on the look out for police auctions for confiscated e46 turbos!!!!

[Solid]

I was actually interested in a new intake manifold meant for FI. I would love to see some before/after dynos pics etc, when you get it done.

[TaZaM3]

Umm you do realize the S54 engine problems were due to bearings? Have you heard of any S54 engine problems after the bearing problems were fixed? (No). There is now many SC'd S54's most with stock internals. S54 with stock internals can boost around 8-9psi. A S54 with built internals and lowered compression easily push a bar.

I know you guys know your thing but saying the S54 is a problem engine is not true. Active Autowerke is a very reputable tuner and has over 80 SC'd S54's with no engine problems. I do not know why ASA has not advanced yet, but i realized they dont do much productivity. For Ex. Technik does different stages and prototypes for ASA. They even have a S54 with an ASA and we will be putting an ASA on my S54.

[DA-MOTORSPORT]

TAZAM3 :

Good luck:) :)

[Iceman1]

Umm you do realize the S54 engine problems were due to bearings? Have you heard of any S54 engine problems after the bearing problems were fixed? (No). There is now many SC'd S54's most with stock internals. S54 with stock internals can boost around 8-9psi. A S54 with built internals and lowered compression easily push a bar.

I know you guys know your thing but saying the S54 is a problem engine is not true. Active Autowerke is a very reputable tuner and has over 80 SC'd S54's with no engine problems. I do not know why ASA has not advanced yet, but i realized they dont do much productivity. For Ex. Technik does different stages and prototypes for ASA. They even have a S54 with an ASA and we will be putting an ASA on my S54.

ESS has also been S/C'ing E46 M3's with the Vortech blower for a while too...

[DeFJaE]

How safe is it to Turbocharge (Stage 1) a 2002 325i step with Dinan CAI Dinan tranny software and Dinan stage 2 engine software and what other engine mods do I have to do in order to get this done?. Thanks

[DA-MOTORSPORT]

For the stage 1 turbocharger kit there is no engine modification needed.

Mert DASTAN
DA TeaM Chief

[DA-MOTORSPORT]

Dinan Stage 1 software would not be a good idea as the timing and fuelling of Dinan maps are different than the standard timing and fuelling maps. So you need to convert back to OEM software.

Mert DASTAN
DA TeaM Chief

[DA-MOTORSPORT]

3.30ci is on a tow truck and passing through Iraq, where bombs explode. Hope and pray the 3.30ci arrives to Istanbul with no damage.

MERT DASTAN
DA TeaM Chief

[DeFJaE]

Thank you for the quick reply. How much HP gain would I get from a stage 1? being that I have a steptronic.

[Iceman1]

3.30ci is on a tow truck and passing through Iraq, where bombs explode. Hope and pray the 3.30ci arrives to Istanbul with no damage.

MERT DASTAN
DA TeaM Chief


:lmao:

im sorry...im sorry.. i jus laughed out loud... so... err... do u have a plan B ?

[DA-MOTORSPORT]

3.25ci with the automatic transmission will make 260 horsepower at 5.1 psi of boost pressure. and loads of torque 330 nM

[DeFJaE]

Pretty good. When can we expect these kits to be available?

[AssassinGT]

Question, how do we plan to get this stuff done in the United States? Seems as if only you guys can install your kits or somthing. I'm still a little confused.

[redronin]

Pretty good. When can we expect these kits to be available?

:read:
This will be finished by the 15 th of july.

[redronin]

Question, how do we plan to get this stuff done in the United States? Seems as if only you guys can install your kits or somthing. I'm still a little confused.

:read:

A good shop in USA can do the install. This is a bolt on system.

[DA-MOTORSPORT]

Yes as Redronin wrote....

MERT DASTAN
DA TeaM Chief

[Born Again]

sorry guys - help me out here - rather than dumping all that $$ for modifying the engine - why not put in a v8 or v12 engine in the 330? sure ull have 2 make some restructuring in the frame - but im sure they can make it fit - ???

i guess no or we'd see this already............

[DA-MOTORSPORT]

Assuming that someone gives a V8 engine as a gift: free of charge M5 V8 engine comes to your garage :)

ECU
wiring harness
transmission adapter kit
flywheel
propeller shaft modifications
coolant radiator
engine mounts
relocation of pumps and other systems under the car

Add to these costs with some $$$$$ for labor and you will end up by "I wanna drive my stock standard bimmer".

MERT DASTAN
DA TeaM Chief

[AssassinGT]

:read:

oh lol. Woops. :clap:

[Lay2Low]

Cant wait!

[Alex]

- why not put in a v8 or v12 engine in the 330?
Talk to Hartge about that.

[Solid]

Hartage is so expensive but http://forum.e46fanatics.com/images/smilies/str8pimp.gif. That new Hartage 1 series is so sweet.

[nicks]

hey I know this sounds crazy, but if the new e90's have a similar ecu setup as the e46 will DA motorsport make a turbo kit for it right off the bat?
One more question will the e46 turbo kit need any tranny modifications?

[Solid]

From what I heard the e90 ECU's are actually encrypted, so who knows how the FI modding market will go :dunno:

[meel330]

hey I know this sounds crazy, but if the new e90's have a similar ecu setup as the e46 will DA motorsport make a turbo kit for it right off the bat?
One more question will the e46 turbo kit need any tranny modifications?
your gonna need a srtonger clutch for sure

[Solid]

Are there any pages showing the stats on how much torque the manual tranny's/driveline can take? Makes me wonder what else you have to reinenforce for a 400whp+ car.

[Iceman1]

Are there any pages showing the stats on how much torque the manual tranny's/driveline can take? Makes me wonder what else you have to reinenforce for a 400whp+ car.

may want to look into cryo treating your differential... may have to look at/change the guibo?, and your velocity bearing... :dunno:

[DA-MOTORSPORT]

we are almost finished with the new page where we will have a biggg E46 product catalogue.

Wait please.

Some more FI BMWs will be displayed. We have new FIed Bimmers .....

[DA-MOTORSPORT]

Nicks,

first of all we will have a complete E46 turbocharger kit. When the time comes for the E90 we will turbo it.

BTW we have a customer in Jamaica. He has our supercharger kit for the Euro M3. We cannot tell the name as it should be kept secret. The supercharged M3 Euro will make 500 horsepower.

The parts are being shipped. This supercharged M3 will have a similar layout such as this one: http://www.da-motorsport.com/projeler/mz3/mz3_en.htm

With 12 psi and 8300 rpm 500 horsepower will be made at the flywheel.

Custom duties are not easy in Jamaica :)

The owner of the M3 has been in my 1000 + hp turboed M3 Euro. He knows how we fly and fly. We have tested my baby M3 at 38 psi when he was in Istanbul. Once he saw the idle with 1600 cc injector bottles, so smooth, cruise so smooth, and WOT like a gun, he has placed his orders.

Mert DASTAN
DA TeaM Chief

[lee330sport]

Nicks,

first of all we will have a complete E46 turbocharger kit. When the time comes for the E90 we will turbo it.

BTW we have a customer in Jamaica. He has our supercharger kit for the Euro M3. We cannot tell the name as it should be kept secret. The supercharged M3 Euro will make 500 horsepower.

The parts are being shipped. This supercharged M3 will have a similar layout such as this one: http://www.da-motorsport.com/projeler/mz3/mz3_en.htm

With 12 psi and 8300 rpm 500 horsepower will be made at the flywheel.

Custom duties are not easy in Jamaica :)

The owner of the M3 has been in my 1000 + hp turboed M3 Euro. He knows how we fly and fly. We have tested my baby M3 at 38 psi when he was in Istanbul. Once he saw the idle with 1600 cc injector bottles, so smooth, cruise so smooth, and WOT like a gun, he has placed his orders.

Mert DASTAN
DA TeaM Chief

I love this man :bow: :bow:

[indosoul]

almost makes me want to move to turkey..

[Born Again]

Assuming that someone gives a V8 engine as a gift: free of charge M5 V8 engine comes to your garage :)

ECU
wiring harness
transmission adapter kit
flywheel
propeller shaft modifications
coolant radiator
engine mounts
relocation of pumps and other systems under the car

Add to these costs with some $$$$$ for labor and you will end up by "I wanna drive my stock standard bimmer".

MERT DASTAN
DA TeaM Chief
ill start looking - but i take it a typical engine in more than $12K

[nicks]

I like how this is sounding, we have real boost now. Well i'm not going to buy this kit as i have a 318i and little cash, but i'm thiking of custom turboing my e30 325i next year. I like to know that BMW power is not meaningless.

[Mike Benvo]

This sounds great.... I might switch to turbo if this all works out!!!

[redronin]

I like how this is sounding, we have real boost now. Well i'm not going to buy this kit as i have a 318i and little cash, but i'm thiking of custom turboing my e30 325i next year. I like to know that BMW power is not meaningless.


im looking forward to slapping one of these in my 330ci and whomping on STI's i just hate the way they drive around my town with a stupid lookin guy hanging out of each window with their 8 foot wings and exhaust that is so rice it deafens people

and then they look at me like "look at me, im so fast, check out my BOV im the fastest thing since paris hilton"

i hate them.... :evil:

[bernstem]

i hate them.... :evil:

Don't hold back now. Tell us how you really feel :) .

This kit does look interesting. I too am curious how it works out. The way my finances are looking, by the time I can afford some boost these kits will have proven themselves and might be an option.

[Mike Benvo]

I'm very interested in the intake manifold and the headgasket. What does the headgasket drop the compression ratio to? I would like to buy these ASAP if they are for sale...

[redronin]

Don't hold back now. Tell us how you really feel :) .

This kit does look interesting. I too am curious how it works out. The way my finances are looking, by the time I can afford some boost these kits will have proven themselves and might be an option.


thats exactly what i was thinking. was gonna go sc in fall/xmas time but by then turbo may be an option, and for about the same price...... :hmm:

[Evil330]

how many HPs will my 330i with steptronic push with one of these turbo kits?

[redronin]

how many HPs will my 330i with steptronic push with one of these turbo kits?


i believe 360 to the crank,

you can only get stage 1 with a step transmission

stage 2 and 3 are MT ONLY.....

[DA-MOTORSPORT]

We are still waiting for the 33oci to arrive but, at the same time working on different FI BMW projects.

Check this out:

http://www.da-motorsport.com/projeler/z3/z3.htm


More to come, we have many BMW FI projects.

MERT DASTAN
DA TeaM Chief

[Ryman4]

so sad that people can make better FI applications for the 3 but not the m3

[TaZaM3]

so sad that people can make better FI applications for the 3 but not the m3

The S54 is a complicated engine. The 330 tuning options have been worked on much longer then the S54 also. Who said there wasnt any good FI applications for the M3? Theres a couple guys with over 500HP on stock internals. This kit is just being released. :thumbup:

[Solid]

I think it has nothing to do with the complication, it's supply and demand. There's more money to be made with non-m kits. Hopefully with used M's getting fairly cheap, the market will start looking like the e36-M market.

[TaZaM3]

I think it has nothing to do with the complication, it's supply and demand. There's more money to be made with non-m kits. Hopefully with used M's getting fairly cheap, the market will start looking like the e36-M market.


I dont think its supply and demand. I think the supply and demand is alot for the M3 also. At first they didnt touch it because they were worried about engine strength (remember the whole bearing incidents). Then AA stepped up, privately made a kit and started an intense development phase. The S54 application is much more difficult and complicated then the non m kits. It needs alot more hardware and tuning. Money is being well made with the S54 FI kits.

The FI market for the e36M rose suddenly due to so many people getting amazing power now. There's still new kits coming out for the E36's.

[Solid]

There's no way it's higher than non-M's.

Just look at how many e46 non-M's exists compared to M's? M's are pretty rare in comparison, and of those M's how many of those want to SC?. I don't see how that's a "high" demand for M's.

[iLLM3]

I dont think its supply and demand. I think the supply and demand is alot for the M3 also. At first they didnt touch it because they were worried about engine strength (remember the whole bearing incidents). Then AA stepped up, privately made a kit and started an intense development phase. The S54 application is much more difficult and complicated then the non m kits. It needs alot more hardware and tuning. Money is being well made with the S54 FI kits.

The FI market for the e36M rose suddenly due to so many people getting amazing power now. There's still new kits coming out for the E36's.

The kit needs more tuning that's for damm sure lol!

[meel330]

There's no way it's higher than non-M's.

Just look at how many e46 non-M's exists compared to M's? M's are pretty rare in comparison, and of those M's how many of those want to SC?. I don't see how that's a "high" demand for M's.
werd....non M are more trusted being that they have been around for longer....they have them down well also.....e46 M kits are on their way, it takes time

dont forget 3 series is a cheaper car, most wouyld by a 3er an rip it apart compared to M, except for the select few