Group buy on Technik Headers.......

[AS007]

Who would be interested in a group buy on some Technik Headers? I am also doing a group buy on the ASA SK1 kit, so I wonder if we get ten people for the supercharger and ten people for the headers if they would cut us a better deal on both?

[vgoretoy]

i'd be interested in both for my 330. how much of a deal would we be talking about?

[jaxtrip]

I'd be interested in the headers.

[DarXide]

I would be interested in the headers if the price is right.. :mischief:

[ab325]

i may be interested in a couple months. just cant afford them now.

[BimmerJustin]

I'd be interested in the headers.....also if the price is right.

[imolazhp_ci]

headers if they can do arround $1000 or cheaper.

[SpeedinBlueBimmer]

I doubt they will do $1000. For $1300 item maybe 100 or 200 less depending on buyers, I mean maybe if we went and said we can get standard SS ones for 1k, and have 30 buyers, and ask them to match the price then maybe. Either way I'm interested at any GB price, shall we start the list?

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[Munky]

wrong forum

[AS007]

Ya, true but more people will see it.

[///ACS330Ci]

I'm interested, but would want race cats and O2 sensors to go with them.

[Dirtboy]

How do the Technik headers compare to SuperSprint headers? :dunno:

[KP]

How do the Technik headers compare to SuperSprint headers? :dunno:

same thing.
Technik uses SS headers and extrue hones them if I'm not mistaken.
What that means is they use some form of polish (grit) to make the insides smoother for better flow.

[AS007]

Anyone else, also what does Technik have to say about this GB?

[samir@technik]

We can set something up, but would need about 10 orders to drop the price enough to make it worthwhile for people.

[AS007]

THE LIST
1.AS007
2.vgoretoy
3.jaxtrip
4.M330i (maybe)
5.BimmerJustin (maybe)
6.imolazhp_ci (maybe)
7.SpeedinBlueBimmer
8.steelgrey330ci
9.///ACS330Ci
10.Dirtboy (maybe)

Come on people this is a nice upgrade for our cars, will sound nice and they will add a good amount of horsepower. Probably the best bolt-on upgrade besides FI.

The people with a (maybe) next to their names let us know you will be in once we get a price established.

[AS007]

Is the Extrude Honing an extra charge? If there are ten people and we can get these headers for $1,000 I will order today. So if we do get 10 poeple that are for sure what do you think the price will be, Technik?

[amitv85]

THE LIST
1.AS007
2.vgoretoy
3.jaxtrip
4.M330i (maybe)
5.BimmerJustin (maybe)
6.imolazhp_ci (maybe)
7.SpeedinBlueBimmer
8.steelgrey330ci
9.///ACS330Ci
10.Dirtboy (maybe)
11. Amitv85 (Maybe - m3 headers)

[jEEliX]

How much power? Are they REALLY loud?

[///ACS330Ci]

I would also still like to know about the availability of race cats and O2 sensors. I don't want to be rollin' with a SES light on all the time.

[AS007]

You can install the shark injector which has a O2 post-delete. Also where is Technik? We have about 10 people.

[samir@technik]

Let me contact my supplier and see what pricing I can arrange for 10+ orders. Would anyone also be interested in thermal coating? Comes in nickel, black and gray. Helps prevent excessive heat buildup inside the engine bay for those who track their cars.

[samir@technik]

BTW, extrude honing is something we offer as well, but is quite expensive and is more for people who are trying to build a race motor.

[SpeedinBlueBimmer]

Depending on price difference for the thermal coating I might be interested.

[redronin]

Depending on price difference for the thermal coating I might be interested.

whats the price gonna be on these, as it happens i have around 1k to blow at the time and i was looking for something else but this might be a nice opportunity


will this be way too loud with my tse3?

pm me about the price please

[DarXide]

whats the price gonna be on these, as it happens i have around 1k to blow at the time and i was looking for something else but this might be a nice opportunity


will this be way too loud with my tse3?

pm me about the price please

Its gonna be damnn loud.. Your car will sound like a race car.. :P

Mann I wanna be in but its too lil gains for 1G. Im not gonna go FI Route.
How much would the price be for a 20+ Group Buy?

[///ACS330Ci]

You can install the shark injector which has a O2 post-delete. Also where is Technik? We have about 10 people.

Thanks I know, but I'm not interested in that option. If I'm going to do it, I'm going to go with race cats.

[AS007]

Any updates on pricing, Technik?

[AS007]

If you go with race cats you can probably just extend the O2 sensors or buy O2 simulators.

[burrito007]

Add me as a maybe depending on the price.

[samir@technik]

I should have something today for pricing.

[AS007]

THE LIST
1.AS007
2.vgoretoy
3.jaxtrip
4.M330i (maybe)
5.BimmerJustin (maybe)
6.imolazhp_ci (maybe)
7.SpeedinBlueBimmer
8.steelgrey330ci
9.///ACS330Ci
10.Dirtboy (maybe)
11.Amitv85 (maybe - m3 headers)
12.jEEliX (maybe)
13.redronin (maybe)
14.burrito007
15............?

[samir@technik]

Here's the pricing I can do for 10+ orders...

E46 325/330 Headers $999
E46 323/328 Headers $1099

Thermal coating is $200 extra and available in nickel, black and gray (takes about 7-10 days).

If you have any questions, please contact info@technikpower.com

Thank you :thumbup:

[DarXide]

what about 20+? :dunno:

[imolazhp_ci]

[QUOTE=AS007]THE LIST
1.AS007
2.vgoretoy
3.jaxtrip
4.M330i (maybe)
5.BimmerJustin (maybe)
6.imolazhp_ci (maybe)
7.SpeedinBlueBimmer
8.steelgrey330ci
9.///ACS330Ci
10.Dirtboy (maybe)
11.Amitv85 (maybe - m3 headers)
12.jEEliX (maybe)
13.redronin (maybe)
14.burrito007
15.imolazhp_ci (99%)

[imolazhp_ci]

[QUOTE=AS007]THE LIST
1.AS007
2.vgoretoy
3.jaxtrip
4.M330i (maybe)
5.BimmerJustin (maybe)
6.imolazhp_ci (maybe)
7.SpeedinBlueBimmer
8.steelgrey330ci
9.///ACS330Ci
10.Dirtboy (maybe)
11.Amitv85 (maybe - m3 headers)
12.jEEliX (maybe)
13.redronin (maybe)
14.burrito007
15........

woops didn't realize i already put myself on #6. i am like 99% positive on these.

[bernstem]

You can install the shark injector which has a O2 post-delete. Also where is Technik? We have about 10 people.

I wouldn't bet on the Shark getting rid of the no-cat CEL. Maybe someone who has this combo can chime in? I have seen a number of posts that AA has software for track cars that will overlook missing cats and not throw a CEL.

Honestly, the best way to not get a CEL is to get a decent set of race cats. Several members have used the supersprint or other aftermarket cats witout a problem. Of course some have had a CEL even with race cats. As near as I can tell, it depends on the brand. Keep in mind, if you live in an inspection state, you will likely need cats to pass.

Even with all this, new exhaust headers is probably one of the sweetest performace mods you can do, and short of going forced induction or head/camshaft work will probably net you the biggest HP gain of anything out there.

[jEEliX]

What about headers and FI? Is that possible? Because I was just planning on saving up for the AA blower, but this is a great deal!

[samir@technik]

What about headers and FI? Is that possible? Because I was just planning on saving up for the AA blower, but this is a great deal!

Sure, that's possible. There's a GB going for headers as well.

[mt3ch]

Sure, that's possible. There's a GB going for headers as well.

1st off, How much can I expect to be quoted for the install of headers???

2nd, What type of gains will be attainable on a 330i ZHP?

3rd, Any benefits on thermal coating if the car is not tracked?

4th, Will BMW $tealer notice that they arent stock, for warranty purposes of course.

Thanks!
Justin

[AS007]

Why is it more for the the 323/328 headers? :bawling:

[AS007]

Where do we send the payment?

[Dirtboy]

I would also still like to know about the availability of race cats and O2 sensors. I don't want to be rollin' with a SES light on all the time.
:werd: I'm with Steve, I was planning on getting headers with race cats and just extending the O2 sensors.

By the way, what's the price on getting these ceramic coated???

[///ACS330Ci]

Sure, that's possible. There's a GB going for headers as well.

Do you have race cats as well?

[samir@technik]

1st off, How much can I expect to be quoted for the install of headers???

About 4 hours of labor, so depending on the installers labor rate, most likely between $300-$400.

2nd, What type of gains will be attainable on a 330i ZHP?

On average, we've seen about 10-15HP in gains for the 2.5, 2.8 and 3.0 engines. Top-end is greatly improved due to the elimination of a major bottleneck.

3rd, Any benefits on thermal coating if the car is not tracked?

It does help if you live in hotter climates, but is not 100% necessary.

4th, Will BMW $tealer notice that they arent stock, for warranty purposes of course.

Most likely...they will see the cats are gone, but shouldn't void your overall warranty due to the exhaust system. They will just void your exhaust system.

[samir@technik]

Why is it more for the the 323/328 headers? :bawling:

Unfortunately, the suppliers for the 323/328 are different than the 325/330. The older models are slightly higher due to less volume.

[samir@technik]

Where do we send the payment?

I'm putting together a link, will post in a little bit. :)

[samir@technik]

Do you have race cats as well?

No, but we recommend Random Technology for cats.

[imolazhp_ci]

No, but we recommend Random Technology for cats.

when i spoke with you a few months ago through e-mail you reccomended supersprint cats... so are these better than the supersprint?

[samir@technik]

when i spoke with you a few months ago through e-mail you reccomended supersprint cats... so are these better than the supersprint?

If you don't mind spending the money, then Supersprint is the way to go, but the replacement pipe w/ cats is quite expensive. The Random Tech cats offer a cheaper solution.

[samir@technik]

GB link is now up:

http://www.technikpower.com/news/080205.htm

[Dirtboy]

No, but we recommend Random Technology for cats.

Which cats do you recommend?

http://www.randomtechnology.com/products.html

[AS007]

Will these headers bolt up to my UUC TSE2 exhaust? I cut the flanges off of the stock exhaust and welded them on to the UUC exhaust so that it would bolt up, so I am hoping that these headers are meant to bolt up to an oem exhaust. Also how much is shipping?

[burrito007]

its still 1100... eh im out

[mt3ch]

Im def interested. I will be getting a quote from a local shop. If I did get in on the GB on the regular non coated headers, when could I expect to recieve them.

Also, I just got the RE Ikon exhaust, if I got headers, what would be reccomended to accomodate this muffler? Do I need to get rid of all my cats and run str8 pipes? There is a shop that makes custom mandrel bent piping, would this be the way to go?

I would have supercharged by now, but I dont wanna mess with the ZHPs cams and I hate the dip at 4k on the dynos.

[DarXide]

Justin the bug mod caught up on you. I thought that you werent gonna mod the ZHP.lolz :P

[mt3ch]

Justin the bug mod caught up on you. I thought that you werent gonna mod the ZHP.lolz :P
I SPONSA YOU BUDDAY! :yikes:

[samir@technik]

Im def interested. I will be getting a quote from a local shop. If I did get in on the GB on the regular non coated headers, when could I expect to recieve them.

About 2-3 weeks from the date payment is received. This would be a large order from our supplier, so it will take some time to properly coordinate the freight shipment.

Also, I just got the RE Ikon exhaust, if I got headers, what would be reccomended to accomodate this muffler? Do I need to get rid of all my cats and run str8 pipes? There is a shop that makes custom mandrel bent piping, would this be the way to go?

Ideally, you'd want straight pipes from the headers to the rear muffler, and weld a set of high-flow cats in place of the first resonator. Then install 2 bungs and extend your lambda probes.

I would have supercharged by now, but I dont wanna mess with the ZHPs cams and I hate the dip at 4k on the dynos.

Yep, me too. We will be getting rid of that soon.

[Dirtboy]

:bump:

Which cats do you recommend?

http://www.randomtechnology.com/products.html

and....
:bump:


By the way, what's the price on getting these ceramic coated???

[samir@technik]

I'd give RandomTech a call at (770) 554-4242. They can recommend the right model cat for you. Ceramic coating is $200.

[AS007]

Is there anyway that you could do the 328 headers for $1,200 shipped?

[Dirtboy]

I'd give RandomTech a call at (770) 554-4242. They can recommend the right model cat for you. Ceramic coating is $200.

Thanks :thumbup: Can I add the ceramic coating to my order?

[samir@technik]

Thanks :thumbup: Can I add the ceramic coating to my order?

Sure, no problem. Send me an email with color preference (nickel, black or gray) and I'll add this to your order.

info@technikpower.com :thumbup:

[samir@technik]

Is there anyway that you could do the 328 headers for $1,200 shipped?

That would be more than it costs. I can do it for $1124 shipped to FL ($1099 + $25). :)

[AS007]

Ok, that is good, I was quoted $1,300 with shipping from someone that emailed me, that is why I was asking. When will they be ready to purchase?

[samir@technik]

Got about 5 people signed up now. Need a few more to lock in these prices and finalize the GB.

[AS007]

Come on people sign up for the Group Buy:
http://www.technikpower.com/news/080205.htm

[AS007]

All we need is like 3-5 more people to sign up at the Technik website. This is as cheap as you are going to find headers.

[dhroz]

Come on people sign up for the Group Buy:
http://www.technikpower.com/news/080205.htm
This link is not working. What is the price 1100 or 1000 shipped?

[samir@technik]

The link works for me. Pricing does not include shipping.

$999 for 325/330, $1099 for 323/328.

[amitv85]

so m3s not being offered? :(

[samir@technik]

so m3s not being offered? :(

Not at this time. I am trying to source them for a good price though...will post up a GB soon. :thumbup:

[AS007]

So is the group buy ready Technik? Or do we need a few more people?

[samir@technik]

So is the group buy ready Technik? Or do we need a few more people?

Confirmation email was sent to those on the list :thumbup:

[ArtDMSU]

If I understand correct, no matter if have the cats in or out (the way they come vs. custom weld job) we are going to need to extend the lambda lines (02 sensor cords). What are the options for extending the lamda lines because I am doing the install on my own? Is there any kit that is available or will technik include the necessary extensions with the header group buy? Thanks

[Dirtboy]

If I understand correct, no matter if have the cats in or out (the way they come vs. custom weld job) we are going to need to extend the lambda lines (02 sensor cords). What are the options for extending the lamda lines because I am doing the install on my own? Is there any kit that is available or will technik include the necessary extensions with the header group buy? Thanks


I read on another post about Technik headers that you have to use steel wire, not copper. I guess the resistance of copper wires will throw a CEL light... :dunno:

[ArtDMSU]

I read on another post about Technik headers that you have to use steel wire, not copper. I guess the resistance of copper wires will throw a CEL light... :dunno:


Yeah I know that. I called to Southern Cali and talked the guy at technik and he told me that. I just am hoping that they will provide some sort of kit that will make the install a lot easier so that I don't have to go to the store and get some wire to extend the sensors and there for spend like 2 hours just trying to get the sensors to be long enough and then after that continue the install.

[ArtDMSU]

What would I have to do to the 02 sensors if I were to replace the cats with a straight pipe. Getting the pipe is not a problem because you can to any hardware store and get one and then take it to a muffler shop and they will weld it in for like $40 or so. The complicated part is telling the ECU something that it wants to hear.

On my 01 toyota celica I ran a straight pipe by wireing in a resistor into a wire which allowed for the o2 sensor to only run back a signal of a certain voltage and therefore tricked the ECU. Is there something similar that I can do for the bimmer?

[ArtDMSU]

I just got it clarified by technik. The headers do not come with cats in them. If you plan to run them without cats you do not need to extend the lambda lines. I was confused earlier! You only need to extend the lines if you want to run cats which would be bought through SS, or somewhere else and then welded into your car. The negative side about this is that you will run a check engine light because the post 02 sensor will read no difference. This will continue until you somehow tell the ECU that there is a cat there. One offered solution is to send your ECU to technik or some other company that does software upgrades and they will reprogram it to tell the ECU that there is a cat there, another solution is to get a cat put in and extend the lambda lines. As for me, I live in Michigan which doesn't check for cats so I will just simply be installing the cats and running a CEL until I get the software to correct it. One added bonus to getting some software is that you can get an increase in HP and torque.

[Doughboyea]

All we need is like 3-5 more people to sign up at the Technik website. This is as cheap as you are going to find headers.

I still can't afford them, school tutition gets in the way, DAMN College fees. :bawling:

Dough

[///ACS330Ci]

I still can't afford them, school tutition gets in the way, DAMN College fees. :bawling:

Dough

I want in too, but I'm in the middle of a move and I don't even have a house to have them sent to :eeps:

Technik, can I get a rain check? :D

[ArtDMSU]

Sent my money in today!

[samir@technik]

Just a reminder: This GB ended on Wednesday. All those interested and signed up, should have received our notification email. If you did not receive it and are still interested in getting in on this GB, please email us.

Thank you

info@technikpower.com

[Dirtboy]

Just a reminder: This GB ended on Wednesday. All those interested and signed up, should have received our notification email. If you did not receive it and are still interested in getting in on this GB, please email us.

Thank you

info@technikpower.com

What's the time frame for shipment? (I ordered mine ceramic coated...)

[ArtDMSU]

What's the time frame for shipment? (I ordered mine ceramic coated...)


I think he said that if you did not get them coated then they will ship approx 2-3 weeks after payment is received but if you ordered to have them coated then it take 2 weeks more. Not sure but don't expect them for a month. Sorry man :loco:

[BimmerJustin]

I want in too, but I'm in the middle of a move and I don't even have a house to have them sent to :eeps:

Technik, can I get a rain check? :D

Hey Steve...Are you coming back to the States? If so, you could of had the headers shipped to my house in Phoenix. Or I could of picked them up for you at Technik since I go down to L.A. a lot. Just a thought.......Oh, and I'm serious. :thumbup:

[///ACS330Ci]

Hey Steve...Are you coming back to the States? If so, you could of had the headers shipped to my house in Phoenix. Or I could of picked them up for you at Technik since I go down to L.A. a lot. Just a thought.......Oh, and I'm serious. :thumbup:

I'm in the States now :eeps: I should be in Tucson on Tuesday to start looking for a house.

Thanks for your offer, but I think I already missed the GB. Maybe I'll be able to take you up on your offer to pick them up on one of your trips though :thumbup:

[samir@technik]

What's the time frame for shipment? (I ordered mine ceramic coated...)

Headers should arrive in about 10 days. For those who ordered the ceramic option, it will take about 5-7 extra days to get them coated and send them off. :thumbup:

[Jojo@DPE]

very tempting samir ...

hope all is well with you guys at technik. :thumbsup:

[ArtDMSU]

Headers should arrive in about 10 days. For those who ordered the ceramic option, it will take about 5-7 extra days to get them coated and send them off. :thumbup:


Do you think you could go over our options for cats/no cats/ 02 sensors and such just one more time so that I completely understand the options? I also heard they make something like called an o2 simulator. Do you know any information about this and where I might be able to get one? Thanks

[samir@technik]

hope all is well with you guys at technik. :thumbsup:

Thx Jojo...same to you :thumbup:

[samir@technik]

Do you think you could go over our options for cats/no cats/ 02 sensors and such just one more time so that I completely understand the options?

First, you'll want to remove the post cat probes and extend them using steel wire. Then install the headers. Afterwards, remove the first resonator and weld in a dual in/out cat in its place. Then weld on 2 bungs, afterwhich you'll reconnect the post cat probes and run them to the extended bung ports.

I also heard they make something like called an o2 simulator. Do you know any information about this and where I might be able to get one? Thanks

O2 sims do not work on BMWs.

[ArtDMSU]

First, you'll want to remove the post cat probes and extend them using steel wire. Then install the headers. Afterwards, remove the first resonator and weld in a dual in/out cat in its place. Then weld on 2 bungs, afterwhich you'll reconnect the post cat probes and run them to the extended bung ports.



O2 sims do not work on BMWs.



If I want to run the headers without cats is everything just a plug in? I don't need to extend the lambda (o2 sensor) lines correct? I will just have a check engine light from the post o2 sensor which can be taken care of with an ecu upgrade?

[samir@technik]

If I want to run the headers without cats is everything just a plug in? I don't need to extend the lambda (o2 sensor) lines correct? I will just have a check engine light from the post o2 sensor which can be taken care of with an ecu upgrade?

Correct

[iiimbpiii]

Correct
Just wanted to check in and see how everything was going with the shiping??? :thumbup: Also are these headers CA amission legal and do they come with a carb legal number?
Thanks.

[AS007]

I am having some problems with my headers. I thought it was the MAF that put it into limp mode at first, so I replaced it. It is still in limp mode, so I cut the post 02 sensors and it stays out of limp mode if I can keep it above 3,000rpm, but below that and at lights limp mode kicks in again. I am not really sure what to do next?

[samir@technik]

Just wanted to check in and see how everything was going with the shiping??? :thumbup: Also are these headers CA amission legal and do they come with a carb legal number?
Thanks.

325/330 headers are coming in tomorrow (most likely). The 323/328 headers will be shipped out a few days after that. They are not CARB legal because they eliminate the cats.

[samir@technik]

I am having some problems with my headers. I thought it was the MAF that put it into limp mode at first, so I replaced it. It is still in limp mode, so I cut the post 02 sensors and it stays out of limp mode if I can keep it above 3,000rpm, but below that and at lights limp mode kicks in again. I am not really sure what to do next?

There should be absolutely no reason for the car to go into limp mode, unless the O2 sensors weren't marked correctly and installed backwards (ie. pre cat sensor in the post cat position, etc.).

[iiimbpiii]

325/330 headers are coming in tomorrow (most likely). The 323/328 headers will be shipped out a few days after that. They are not CARB legal because they eliminate the cats.
So with a cat will that make it legal in CA, if not is there a way to make them legal. Not complaining just wondering if i have to take it off before every smog test then oh well.... :thumbup:

[ArtDMSU]

So with a cat will that make it legal in CA, if not is there a way to make them legal. Not complaining just wondering if i have to take it off before every smog test then oh well.... :thumbup:


Hey can you explain these smog test to a non-cali? I live in Mi and was just assuming that when you got pulled over a cop could stick something by the rear of your exhaust and test if it was legal or not. Thanks

Can't wait to get my headers.

[samir@technik]

So with a cat will that make it legal in CA, if not is there a way to make them legal. Not complaining just wondering if i have to take it off before every smog test then oh well.... :thumbup:

The only way to become "legal" is with an EO number, but as long as you have a set of cats after the header with post-cat probes extended and your OBD is "happy", then you will pass the sniffer as well as the visual. We are working to apply for an EO number for this type of setup, however, the actual complicance test is very expensive to setup and takes time. Once we've got the supercharger EO completed, then we will focus on the header/cat combo.

[iiimbpiii]

The only way to become "legal" is with an EO number, but as long as you have a set of cats after the header with post-cat probes extended and your OBD is "happy", then you will pass the sniffer as well as the visual. We are working to apply for an EO number for this type of setup, however, the actual complicance test is very expensive to setup and takes time. Once we've got the supercharger EO completed, then we will focus on the header/cat combo.
Sounds like a plan to me thanks for your help.

[RedBarron]

How would I run these headers without cats?

[bernstem]

Hey can you explain these smog test to a non-cali? I live in Mi and was just assuming that when you got pulled over a cop could stick something by the rear of your exhaust and test if it was legal or not. Thanks

Can't wait to get my headers.

Inspection states have a certificate you have to present when registering your car. Usually it can only be obtained at state certified inspection stations where they visually inspect your car, check the computer for emissions related fault codes and check your exhaust gases at the tailpipe for compliance with some minimum standard.

Having lived in St. Louis where inspection is mandatory, it is a huge pain in the ass (no emissions inspection here in Michigan :woot: ). Even in states without inspection I do recommend aftermarket cats. It is just the right thing to do. If you can't afford cats, don't get headers. Just my 0.02

[iiimbpiii]

Inspection states have a certificate you have to present when registering your car. Usually it can only be obtained at state certified inspection stations where they visually inspect your car, check the computer for emissions related fault codes and check your exhaust gases at the tailpipe for compliance with some minimum standard.

Having lived in St. Louis where inspection is mandatory, it is a huge pain in the ass (no emissions inspection here in Michigan :woot: ). Even in states without inspection I do recommend aftermarket cats. It is just the right thing to do. If you can't afford cats, don't get headers. Just my 0.02
Well put. :thumbup:

[samir@technik]

How would I run these headers without cats?

Just bolt 'em on :)

[///ACS330Ci]

Even in states without inspection I do recommend aftermarket cats. It is just the right thing to do. If you can't afford cats, don't get headers. Just my 0.02


:werd:

[Dirtboy]

Anybody tried these O2 simulators (http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7erz1/id1.html) from bakerelectronix.com (http://www.bakerelectronix.com) ?

Part- DualO2Sim

[///ACS330Ci]

Anybody tried these O2 simulators (http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7erz1/id1.html) from bakerelectronix.com (http://www.bakerelectronix.com) ?

Part- DualO2Sim



:read:
O2 sims do not work on BMWs.

[Dirtboy]

:read:


O2 sims do not work on BMWs.





Then how come they list a 2004 M3 on their site???

http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7erz1/id13.html#04bmwm3


From this THREAD (http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=192252)

Hey Guys, sent them an email and this is what i got, ordering my header today now that a fix for the CEL is in place....

Quote:

Yes, our DualO2 will work fine on your BMWs to simulate your PostCat/Downstream sensors, You will need to ether leave your old sensors heater connected or use a resistor to simulate the heater to avoid the "faulty Heater" error codes. You will be able to remove your Cats and avoid the check engine light caused by bad/missing Cats and PostCat O2 sensors.
Neil Baker
Baker Electronix
Visit our web site at www.bakerelectronix.com

[Dirtboy]

Sorry for the delay. You will need to ether leave your old sensors heater connected or use a resistor to simulate the heater to avoid the "faulty Heater" error codes. I'm not sure about the wire colors on your 02 but some of the other years had:

Sensor wire colors:
Black - O2 signal
Gray - Signal Ground
White - Heater +12V
White - Heater ground

I've attached a BMP diagram of connecting our simulator up using your old sensor's heater wires or using a resistor. Let us know if your wires match these. You should only need one simulator even for a dual exhaust systems.



:dunno:

[ArtDMSU]

On my celica I wired in a small resistor and then put some tape over it and that helped me to avoid a CEL. I would like to do something similar here but it is a BMW and not some Toyota.

[iiimbpiii]

On my celica I wired in a small resistor and then put some tape over it and that helped me to avoid a CEL. I would like to do something similar here but it is a BMW and not some Toyota.
This is true I wouldnt try tricking the car if you do it will surely get you back....

[ArtDMSU]

This is true I wouldnt try tricking the car if you do it will surely get you back....


Actually the o2 sensor was not the problem with my car. It was the 1st cylinder. I ran nitrous on it and after a while I lost the 1st cylinder and was running on only 3. Soon after I sold the car back to the dealer and they fixed it and sold it to someone else.

[ArtDMSU]

Any word on when the headers will be shipped out to us customers.

[samir@technik]

The first part of our shipment came in today. We are sorting through it and will have shipping updates shortly.

[///ACS330Ci]

:dunno:

I thought you were gettin' cats anyway?

[iiimbpiii]

The first part of our shipment came in today. We are sorting through it and will have shipping updates shortly.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I'm so excited... :woot:

[hp99hp]

No M3 headers avail in this GB?

[Dirtboy]

I thought you were gettin' cats anyway?

I am getting cats, just exploring all avenues....

Just gotta find someone local here to weld it all up for me. Oh, and I'm looking at getting a x-over pipe to put where the middle resonator used to be...

[KP]

I am getting cats, just exploring all avenues....

Just gotta find someone local here to weld it all up for me. Oh, and I'm looking at getting a x-over pipe to put where the middle resonator used to be...

I'm not a big supporter of the SS cats that are on my car since they are ridiculously expensive, but in a way it can be considered a better buy.
I'm saying this because in your case, you want to opt a SS x-pipe or the like, weld two universal cats (of your choice). If you were using the stock midpipe I wouldn't say anything.
The costs are about $400 (x-pipe), $300-400 (cats), and probably around $250 (labor, high figure because I'm anticipating post cats O2 sensor extension). So the total runs to about a grand.
But you're thinking why $800 would make it that much better? Well, I can't convince you otherwise than what I have gathered information on. And this is purely objective, and I don't have the empirical evidents to prove the next statement.
I have heard that magnaflows (and the like), universal cats don't have the life expectancy of OEM cats. I have also heard that SS did make some OEM cats that are similar to their metallic cats in quality and durability.
Hence my point is, SS cats should last more in the long run. I.E, if your standard universal cat crapped out at 40k compared to SS's 80k, then the costs get pretty close to one another.
I may be totally wrong with this reasoning, and I do agree that $1800 for metallic cats is a little too expensive. The only reason I got SS was because I purchased them secondhand.

[samir@technik]

UPDATE: We received our M52TU shipment (323/328) and are sending those out today. However, we are still waiting on our M54 shipment (325/330) and are awaiting delivery any day now. Freight from overseas can sometimes experience slight delays. We are working on getting them ASAP so we can get them out to those waiting.

[iiimbpiii]

UPDATE: We received our M52TU shipment (323/328) and are sending those out today. However, we are still waiting on our M54 shipment (325/330) and are awaiting delivery any day now. Freight from overseas can sometimes experience slight delays. We are working on getting them ASAP so we can get them out to those waiting.
Any updates on the headers for the M54s.... :dunno:

Thanks. :thumbup:

[ArtDMSU]

I have been calling them a lot and they got them in last Friday and are begining to ship them out. I had mine 3 day delivered to me for a small extra fee so that I can install them this weekend, which is my last chance to do them before school starts.

[iiimbpiii]

I have been calling them a lot and they got them in last Friday and are begining to ship them out. I had mine 3 day delivered to me for a small extra fee so that I can install them this weekend, which is my last chance to do them before school starts.
Nice thanks for your help.

[iiimbpiii]

Nice thanks for your help.
Sorry to be a pest but any new information on the shipping of the M54 headers im sorry :( im just so excited to get them :woot: .
Thank you very much.

[ArtDMSU]

Sorry to be a pest but any new information on the shipping of the M54 headers im sorry :( im just so excited to get them :woot: .
Thank you very much.


I am getting mine tomorrow. I had them 3 day aired to me. If your package was sent then you should have received an email about the tracking info.

[samir@technik]

Sorry to be a pest but any new information on the shipping of the M54 headers im sorry :( im just so excited to get them :woot: .
Thank you very much.

All M52TU orders have been shipped. And the first batch of M54 headers are also out. I'm just waiting on the final batch to come from Europe (the manufacturer can only make a few sets at a time). ETA from the freight carrier is sometime next week. I'll be sure to update you once they land. Hang in there, you'll have them soon :)

[iiimbpiii]

All M52TU orders have been shipped. And the first batch of M54 headers are also out. I'm just waiting on the final batch to come from Europe (the manufacturer can only make a few sets at a time). ETA from the freight carrier is sometime next week. I'll be sure to update you once they land. Hang in there, you'll have them soon :)
OK thank you very much I cant wait................... :woot:

[ArtDMSU]

Guys they are rediculiously loud. I love it. With my TSE3 it sounds really good. It sounds like a deeper more throaty TSE3 when it is anything less that 3/4 throttle. However once you pass that 3/4 throttle line then it is like a F***ing crotch rocket. My girlfriend said she can hear it from like 2 miles away. It is crazy. I have yet to feel any difference because I am so overwhelmed by the awesome noise, but after looking at the OEM pipes, with all the sharp restrictive curves, I am sure that the smoothness of the pipes yielded me a hefty gain in Hp/torque. I would think that the way it sounds that there would be more of a Hp gain than that of torque, but only the dyno will tell. After I get a chip, I will strap it to the dyno and see what I am left with. Pics of my install will be up when I get them from a friend. I did it all myself with the help of two buddies. Everything went smooth and the passanger engine mount did not need to be removed. The stock 02 sensors plug into the top of the engine and then are routed behind the engine on the back side and are held in by a zip tie. I cut this zip tie and routed the lines that need to be extended over the top of the engine and moto-tooled a couple of gooves in the engine cover make sure that the lines were not pinched. For now I just plugged the 02 sensors into the bungs made and delt with not having a cat. Since I live in Michigan there is no hurry the get th cat, but it will come. After resetting the ecu there was a check engine light from the post 02 sensor and when I started the car there was a lot of smoke from all the oil that was burning off the new headers. The oil came from the WD40 used and from just touching the headers. This was kind of scary when I saw it but I knew what was happening. Other than this the install was straight forward and I think anyone who had the right tools could do it. The 02 sensors used 22mm wrench which is not that common and we used some odd wrenches to get the nuts on to the bolts of the new headers. If you have any questions about doing an install yourself feel free to PM me but do so with knowing that I take no resposibility in helping you or by posting this. Good luck with your headers.

[iiimbpiii]

WAAAAAAAAA I want mine so badly I can't stand it.

[iiimbpiii]

Any word on the second shipment yet :(. And for those who have gotten theres installed post some videos or sound clips.
Thanks,
:thumbup: .

[samir@technik]

Still nothing yet. I've been checking for updates every other day. The problem is, the supplier only ships in bulk, so we have to wait for their next scheduled shipment to reach a certain amount of units, then they can ship it out. This was already supposed to happen this week, but I've been told next week for sure this time...no more delays.

[ArtDMSU]

Pics coming this weekend when my friend brings his camera up and then I will take some video on my camera. Any idea as to how to post it online? I have never posted any video before.

[iiimbpiii]

I have never done it but I know there are alot of sites out there if you cant find them im sure someone would be happy to post them for you, cant wait :thumbup:.

[ArtDMSU]

Here are some pics from the install. I will get some video up soon, but I am really busy with school and I don't take my car out much, but when I do, I will take some video.

[ArtDMSU]

More

[ArtDMSU]

and still more

[ArtDMSU]

Last ones untill the video

[Dirtboy]

You didn't have to take the right side engine mount off? Any engine lights from how you have the O2 sensors hooked up?

[ArtDMSU]

You didn't have to take the right side engine mount off? Any engine lights from how you have the O2 sensors hooked up?


The engine mount did not need to be removed. We unscrewed both the OEM headers and then they slipped out with a little force. I am running a CEL from the post o2 sensor but I am going to get a chip from Technik to correct that and give me some more Hp. I did not need to extend the 02 sensors. I explained this in an earlier post but basically the lines go up the back of the engine and onto the top of it. I took the engine covers off and the 2 02 sensors that needed to extended I took them out of their brackets on the back of the engine and ran them over the top of the engine. I then moto-tooled some small grooves for them to fit under the engine cover and they were long enough by a couple of inches. I can take some pics of this if someone is interested. Basically you don't need to remove the engine cover or make the 02s longer so it made the job hours shorter. It took me about 8.5 hours and that is because I had 2 other people partically helping me and we needed to make a run to the hardware store because my header to exhaust bolts were too rusted to replace. Anymore questions?

[jEEliX]

pics!

[ArtDMSU]

pics!

Page 7 and vids are now uploaded.
Get yorur :popcorn: ready because it is a good show. http://www.putfile.com/bimmermd302

[iiimbpiii]

Page 7 and vids are now uploaded.
Get yorur :popcorn: ready because it is a good show. http://www.putfile.com/bimmermd302
BRAVO sounds awsome i cant wait for mine... was that the check engine light on? If so what was the problem anything to do with the headers?

[ArtDMSU]

BRAVO sounds awsome i cant wait for mine... was that the check engine light on? If so what was the problem anything to do with the headers?


As I explained earlier you will run a CEL from the post 02 sensors because you have no cat for them to detect a difference in the exhaust oxygen. I am getting it corrected by technik when I send my chip in.

[Will ZCPM3]

Page 7 and vids are now uploaded.
Get yorur :popcorn: ready because it is a good show. http://www.putfile.com/bimmermd302


sounds so sick dude, glad the install went well for you :thumbup:

ps early class today? i just got back from my 8, f 'in blows

[ArtDMSU]

sounds so sick dude, glad the install went well for you :thumbup:

ps early class today? i just got back from my 8, f 'in blows


Yeah, I met some kid yesterday who had an e36 m3 with some nice mods on it and I think we might role sometime if you are interested.

[Will ZCPM3]

Yeah, I met some kid yesterday who had an e36 m3 with some nice mods on it and I think we might role sometime if you are interested.


let me know, id be down.

[ArtDMSU]

let me know, id be down.


Is your car up here at school?

[Will ZCPM3]

the m3 is

[ArtDMSU]

the m3 is


What color?

[iiimbpiii]

What color?
Do you just have headers and exhaust or do you have other performance mods to?

[Will ZCPM3]

What color?

titanium silver w/red interior

[TitanSilber ZHP]

Page 7 and vids are now uploaded.
Get yorur :popcorn: ready because it is a good show. http://www.putfile.com/bimmermd302


is your gruppe M installed wrong? :confused:

[ArtDMSU]

is your gruppe M installed wrong? :confused:


No I just did not install the mount that came with it.

[iiimbpiii]

Mount or no mount it looks sideways to me.

[Dirtboy]

Any word on the rest of the shipments? :dunno:

[ArtDMSU]

Mount or no mount it looks sideways to me.


Well what should it look like?

[samir@technik]

Any word on the rest of the shipments? :dunno:

Yup, they landed I believe yesterday (finally). Now just waiting for the customs broker to clear them through and deliver. Tracking numbers will be emailed soon.

[Dirtboy]

About how long for the ceramic coating?

Yup, they landed I believe yesterday (finally). Now just waiting for the customs broker to clear them through and deliver. Tracking numbers will be emailed soon.

[samir@technik]

About how long for the ceramic coating?

Shouldn't take more than 5-7 days to get it back from the coater.

[iiimbpiii]

Well what should it look like?
The place where it says Gruppe M and has the serial number should be facing upwards not sideways. Thats how mine is and all the others that i have seen are.

[jb330m54]

Is this GB still going on?

[iiimbpiii]

Any updates on the shipping???
Thanks.

[samir@technik]

Any updates on the shipping???
Thanks.

I will have an update tomorrow.

[iiimbpiii]

I will have an update tomorrow.
^?

[samir@technik]

Should be delivered tomorrow.

[ArtDMSU]

Should be delivered tomorrow.


Damn that really sucks that you guys are getting them so late. I am now in the process of hoping for technik to get me their software upgrade for my car. So I guess we are all waiting for Technik.

[samir@technik]

90% of the GB orders are fulfilled. The final remaining orders were harder to source due to supply issues in Germany. But they are in the country now. I am just waiting for physical delivery.

[iiimbpiii]

90% of the GB orders are fulfilled. The final remaining orders were harder to source due to supply issues in Germany. But they are in the country now. I am just waiting for physical delivery.
After you get them and ship them out how long will it take to get to us?
Thanks.

[samir@technik]

After you get them and ship them out how long will it take to get to us?
Thanks.

I'll 3-day using UPS.

[iiimbpiii]

I'll 3-day using UPS.
sounds like a plan any new info on when your getting them?
Thanks.

[niL]

technik, how much for your ecu software to remove the CEL for the error being thrown by the post o2 sensor, i dont want to run cats, depending on software price i might be intrested in purchasing it with the headers at whatever pricing is available :)

[samir@technik]

technik, how much for your ecu software to remove the CEL for the error being thrown by the post o2 sensor, i dont want to run cats, depending on software price i might be intrested in purchasing it with the headers at whatever pricing is available :)

niL...we have decided not to offer this post O2 delete option. The risk of EPA fines and criminal prosecution does not warrant us offering such a feature with our software...sad, but true.

There is a simulator option available from Baker Electronix, which is very easy to install.

[imolazhp_ci]

if technik won't do it get a powerchip. they'll do it.

[ArtDMSU]

if technik won't do it get a powerchip. they'll do it.


I am in the same boat. Does powerchip offer the delete?

[imolazhp_ci]

I am in the same boat. Does powerchip offer the delete?

yep. power chip has different maps tuned for headers pulleys and intake... and they can do many custom things like adjust your powerband and such. i am getting it this week and it just seems as though it is a much more custom software as opposed to one of the "off the shelf" softwares like the shark injector. and yes powerchip can delete the cel.

[ArtDMSU]

yep. power chip has different maps tuned for headers pulleys and intake... and they can do many custom things like adjust your powerband and such. i am getting it this week and it just seems as though it is a much more custom software as opposed to one of the "off the shelf" softwares like the shark injector. and yes powerchip can delete the cel.


No I just talked to their manager and he said that there is a chance that their software will not be able to do anything for the cel. They said that when they reprogram it they don't even go into that portion of the system. They only touch the fuel curve, throttle response, torque, hp etc.. but they cannot delete the 02 fault. They referenced me to car chip ex and said that is the company that they use to do a manuel delete on a cel that is not wanted. I am looking into that right now.

[ArtDMSU]

Power chip said that they use carchip to reset their check engine lights and so I called the company, davis instruments, and they said that their basic model can delete the check engine light but will not override the computer to get overlook it. They said that they sell it for $140 but you can probably find it at autozone for $99 or so. I think I might be getting this and just plugging it in when needed. Also technik said that there is company that offers a small kit that will trick your 02 sensor and put some sort of a resistor in the line to the computer to read that everything is fine. I will probably look at this to see how cheap and easy it is as compared to this carchip. Just letting you guys know.

[faithmassive]

I would be interested in the headers if the price is right.. :mischief:
like.... $800 ;)


I want a ltw flywheel GB.. or a GB In general

[ArtDMSU]

http://stores.ebay.com/Baker-Electronix_W0QQsspagenameZL2QQtZkm


Here is a link to the ebay sales of baker electronics. I believe that they sell what I am looking for. Something to plug into my post cat 02 lines and send the ecu a trick signal saying everything is alright.

[ArtDMSU]

Just bought the duel 02 sensor simulator off ebay since that is how this company does their business. According to their site it is what I am looking for. I will keep you updated on the install and if it works. If it doesn't then it was only $31 so no big loss.

[Dirtboy]

Any updates? :dunno:

[samir@technik]

Please email me at info@technikpower.com for an update.

[Dirtboy]

Please email me at info@technikpower.com for an update.
E-mail sent :thumbup:

[Dougs325]

Technik, I am ready to buy a header. is the group buy still going on or is there any way we could get another one going? I would like to pay $1000 or less, but I realize we would need mass people for that.

[samir@technik]

Technik, I am ready to buy a header. is the group buy still going on or is there any way we could get another one going? I would like to pay $1000 or less, but I realize we would need mass people for that.

We're going to have another GB soon, once the previous one is fulfilled.

[Dougs325]

I always knew you kicked ass :bow:

[BlumberB18]

Header GB??????? Are my ears correct. :)

[///ACS330Ci]

We're going to have another GB soon, once the previous one is fulfilled.

:idea:

[Dirtboy]

:idea:
:slap:

[samir@technik]

:idea:

There are only 2 orders remaining to be fulfilled, the rest were already shipped weeks ago. The last 2 headers were lost in transit and replacements are being sent from Germany as we speak. Relax.

[Mteknic330ci]

Lets do a FI cam Group Buy!!!! :clap:

[iiimbpiii]

Lets do a FI cam Group Buy!!!! :clap:
:clap:

[///ACS330Ci]

There are only 2 orders remaining to be fulfilled, the rest were already shipped weeks ago. The last 2 headers were lost in transit and replacements are being sent from Germany as we speak. Relax.


:hmm: My " :idea: " post was a :thumbup: for your idea of another group buy since I missed out on the last one because I was in the middle of moving. I could care less if Derek ever got his! :lmao:

[samir@technik]

:hmm: My " :idea: " post was a :thumbup: for your idea of another group buy since I missed out on the last one because I was in the middle of moving. I could care less if Derek ever got his! :lmao:

My bad, that smiley is usually used in a sarcastic manner. Either way, new GB will be posted soon.

[///ACS330Ci]

My bad, that smiley is usually used in a sarcastic manner. Either way, new GB will be posted soon.

No worries, it's all Derek's fault anyway ... he such a window licker! :spit:

[ArtDMSU]

Anyone know of a code scaner/reset tool that will work on an 04? The peake one will only work on 03's and below. Thanks

[Dirtboy]

No worries, it's all Derek's fault anyway ... he such a window licker! :spit:

OI! :confused: I resemble that remark!! :ben:



...tard :rofl:

[Dirtboy]

There are only 2 orders remaining to be fulfilled, the rest were already shipped weeks ago. The last 2 headers were lost in transit and replacements are being sent from Germany as we speak. Relax.


Isn't it just my luck that my order was one of the ones that got lost....


...and I'm IN Germany... :dunno:

:rofl:


(patiently waiting :dave: )

[///ACS330Ci]

OI! :confused: I resemble that remark!! :ben:



...tard :rofl:


:D :luv:

[ArtDMSU]

[QUOTE=Dirtboy]Isn't it just my luck that my order was one of the ones that got lost....


...and I'm IN Germany... :dunno: [QUOTE=Dirtboy]

You should have just ordered them from the manufacturer over there because that is where they were made.

[Dirtboy]

[QUOTE=Dirtboy]Isn't it just my luck that my order was one of the ones that got lost....


...and I'm IN Germany... :dunno: [QUOTE=Dirtboy]

You should have just ordered them from the manufacturer over there because that is where they were made.

The group buy was actually cheaper. :D

[ArtDMSU]

The group buy was actually cheaper. :D


Ahh :stupid:

[ArtDMSU]

Hey I just wanted to tell everyone my little story because it might happen to anyone that gets these headers. It is nothing that bad but just something that you might want to know. So I got the headers with the group buy and installed them with my buddy. Everything went well but there was a few minor mishaps. Like the bots came out of the block and therefore had to be put back in, minor. The 02 sensor lines are not really long enough and need to be cut off the hanger in the back of the engine and run over the top of the engine underneath the engine cover, once again minor. I chose to not run cats becasue there is no testing for cats where I live so I was planning on getting a CEL from the post-cat o2 sensors. Well when I ordered the headers Technik told me that they were planning on coming out with some software to override the CEL and make everything seem fine along with the 10 whp that they claim their ecu can get you.

Seeing as though I had the headers on the car and was running a CEL all the time. I wanted to get rid of it sooner. So I purchase a little box from that will wire into the 02s to fake a non-faulty signal. Well this has yet to come and this past weekend my car took a turn for the worse. If you notice on my webiste http://www.putfile.com/bimmermd302 I mention the lumpy start up that occurs about 30 seconds after start up and continues for another 30 seconds. Well this weekend my car never came out of this lumpy mode. I drove as short of a distance as I could and left it until today. I called technik and they directed me to maybe get a code scaner/reset tool. I looked at the ones available online, peake, baum tools, stern, and equus, and ended up ordering one from the local napa. It was called actron. I ordered it from there because I would not have to deal with shipping it back since some of the ones I looked at online would not work for 2004 BMW. Anyways, I plugged the thing in and started the car and reset the light. Not only did this make me happy as can be but I went for a little drive. Upon giving it full throttle I felt that it was significantly faster than before, according to my own butt dyno. So for anyone else experienceing similar problem I hope that my little story might help.

[Dougs325]

Technik, I must say I have wanted your header for quite some time, but honestly (realizing I have never heard it in person), how much louder will it be? I am looking for my car to be mass ass loud, and sound good at the same time. I've watched the videos and all that, but it doesn't give me a good idea of what to expect. Would it be like twice as loud as the DMS or TSE3? I know it will be loud...very loud, but are we talking like a shelby with straight pipes loud?

[ArtDMSU]

Technik, I must say I have wanted your header for quite some time, but honestly (realizing I have never heard it in person), how much louder will it be? I am looking for my car to be mass ass loud, and sound good at the same time. I've watched the videos and all that, but it doesn't give me a good idea of what to expect. Would it be like twice as loud as the DMS or TSE3? I know it will be loud...very loud, but are we talking like a shelby with straight pipes loud?


If you take it above 3K rpm it is loud as **** otherwise it is pretty nice. Above 3k my friends say it sounds like a race car and below it sounds like a beast that needs to be unleashed. Check my videos http://www.putfile.com/bimmermd302

[Dougs325]

If you take it above 3K rpm it is loud as **** otherwise it is pretty nice. Above 3k my friends say it sounds like a race car and below it sounds like a beast that needs to be unleashed. Check my videos http://www.putfile.com/bimmermd302
:omg: :drool: :drool:

[ArtDMSU]

:omg: :drool: :drool:



Dude it is really worth it. I just wish I could get my ecu straight so I don't have to keep messing around with the scanner/reset tool.

[ArtDMSU]

So yesterday I bought a scan/reset tool and I am just looking for a comfirmation to what the code means. I ran a p0040 and the scanner read: 02 Bank 1 sensor 1 signals swapped with 02 Bank 2 sensor 1.

I am assuming that this means that the first pre-cat o2 sensor is swapped with the other pre-cat o2 sensor. Anyone else know?

[Dirtboy]

There are only 2 orders remaining to be fulfilled, the rest were already shipped weeks ago. The last 2 headers were lost in transit and replacements are being sent from Germany as we speak. Relax.

Any word yet?? :dunno:

[Nico3k]

I was just wondering, does the ceramic coating dampen the noise coming from the headers at all?
Also, can you use the headers with stock exhaust? Thanks

[ArtDMSU]

I was just wondering, does the ceramic coating dampen the noise coming from the headers at all?
Also, can you use the headers with stock exhaust? Thanks


1. No
2. Yes

[///ACS330Ci]

I was just wondering, does the ceramic coating dampen the noise coming from the headers at all?
Also, can you use the headers with stock exhaust? Thanks

1. No
2. Yes

The ceramic coating will have some effect because it will change the resonant frequency of the material. Will it be noticable to the human ear? Hell if I know :)

[jEEliX]

Whats up with your car ArtDMSU. Have you gotten everything straightened out?

When is the next GB gonna be!?

[ArtDMSU]

I installed the simulater from Baker but I did not wire it correct. Instead of cutting the wire going to the ECU from the o2 I ran it in parallel. It was my mistake and mostly because I did it at 2am in my garage. I plan to fix it soon though. I just need to jack up my car. Since it has started to snow here in Mi I have not been excited about going outside for a while. On the brightside the CEL clearing tool I got works like a charm and whenever I get a CEL (every 200-400 miles or so) I just clear it and everything works fine. I hope to get under my car sometime in the next week and fix things. After that I just have to wait for a while and see if I run a CEL. If that does happen I will have to rely on the ecu remap from either Active autowerks or from technik whoever comes out with it sooner.

[jEEliX]

Any word on another group buy??? I missed out on this one :(

[samir@technik]

Soon, new one will be up in January featuring the Gen.2 headers.

[ArtDMSU]

what will be the difference between gen 1 and gen 2?

[samir@technik]

No major differences in performance, just slightly different header design. The main reason for the change is due to suppliers...the Gen.1 were made in Europe, which presented supply issues. The Gen.2 are made in the US.

[ArtDMSU]

Any update on your software? Active Autowerks came out with some new stuff for the 325 this week. They will offer the post cat o2 delete and many more options. Just wondering if you guys had an update on your softward.

[dhroz]

Does this mean the Generation 2 headers will be less expensive?

[jEEliX]

Sweeeeett!!!! You guys should really run cats btw, what are you going to do when you have to pass emissions??

[dhroz]

Do they offer software for the 330i with O2 sensor delete? If they do how much is it??

[jEEliX]

Doesnt the shark software have a o2 sensor delete? All of their software for the E46 besides M3 is $500.

[ArtDMSU]

No the shark is a joke. It is horrible. There is no sort of costumizing with it.

[ArtDMSU]

Plan on at least $500 for anything with a descent gain to it.

[Will ZCPM3]

Doesnt the shark software have a o2 sensor delete? All of their software for the E46 besides M3 is $500.

shark pretty much just gets rid of rev limiter and top speed limiter

[jEEliX]

Well I felt a big increase in speed and torque with it, and people have said that throttle response is improved aswell. Nothing near like dodge throttle response, but better nonetheless.

323/328s are said to have the biggest gains with it...

Anyways, keep us updated on these new headers!

[ArtDMSU]

I don't know about the shark. I think it might improve your response and remove the top end and up the rev limiter, but can you image what type of reading you would get on your butt dyno if you spent an extra $100 and got the Active autowerks ECU upgrade that has claimed ~16 hp and ~13 torque at the wheels. Now that is something that your butt would regester for sure.

[jEEliX]

Ya, damn well .. that sucks heh.

I prolly shouldve went with AA.

[ArtDMSU]

If you do your research it will pay off:woot:

[samir@technik]

Any update on your software? Active Autowerks came out with some new stuff for the 325 this week. They will offer the post cat o2 delete and many more options. Just wondering if you guys had an update on your softward.

Updates coming in January, after the holidays.

[samir@technik]

Does this mean the Generation 2 headers will be less expensive?

For 323/328 owners, yes. For 325/330, price will be the same as the last GB.

[jEEliX]

I can't wait!!

[///ACS330Ci]

For 323/328 owners, yes. For 325/330, price will be the same as the last GB.

:confused: :huh:

[jEEliX]

:confused: :huh:

:P

[samir@technik]

:confused: :huh:

The last GB pricing for the 323/328 headers was $100 more than the 325/330 headers. The next time around, it will be the same for all, meaning, the 323/328 headers will be $100 less.

[dhroz]

Who is the manufacturer?

[jEEliX]

All I know is that they are going to be made in the good ol USA! :D

[JoeHo]

what time in january will you guys have another GB? LMK I want in.

[dhroz]

I would like to to buy also but they should be less expensive say $800 or so since they are made in the states. Also what type of quality can we expect?
Supersprint although expensive, were pretty good. Atleast I did not here of many issues with them. If cracks develop, they are not easy to just install and remove, not to mention shipping. They are not a small item. Results of durability testing and what type of tests performed.

[samir@technik]

what time in january will you guys have another GB? LMK I want in.

Mid/end of the month.

[samir@technik]

I would like to to buy also but they should be less expensive say $800 or so since they are made in the states. Also what type of quality can we expect?

They are T304, not mild steel, so they will not be less than $800. Pricing will be around $1K for the GB, same as last time...this is the best deal available for E46 T304 headers.

[jEEliX]

What is T304? Hardened steel???

[KP]

What is T304? Hardened steel???

"Chromium-Nickel austenitic alloy. Used for a wide variety of home and commercial applications, this is one of the most familiar and most frequently used alloys in the stainless steel family."

[///ACS330Ci]

Isn't it just my luck that my order was one of the ones that got lost....


...and I'm IN Germany... :dunno:

:rofl:


(patiently waiting :dave: )

Derek, post some pics of your headers already!!! I want to see what color you had them coated.

[Dirtboy]

Derek, post some pics of your headers already!!! I want to see what color you had them coated.

<img src="http://forum.e46fanatics.com/images/smilies/****.gif" />

:rolleyes:

[burrito007]

:lmao: <img src="http://forum.e46fanatics.com/images/smilies/****.gif" />

:rolleyes:
hey its a legit question, maybe he painted them pull-me-over blue or integra-white...

maybe JDM-Jet-Black!!