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Mr Paddle.Shift
08-27-2005, 09:31 PM
"You're crazy!"

"You're an addict!"

With such compliments about me tracking my car, how can I not resist taking the car to another event? 3 events in a month. That's about 1 track event per 10 days.

First off, I have a camcorder this time. But still learning the features. So some of the clips might seem a bit washed out. Next time I will promise better quality.

Small collage clip of the last session. (http://home.comcast.net/~csl.parts/Buttonwillow_0826/Buttonwillow_last.WMV)

Following a STi. (http://home.comcast.net/~csl.parts/Buttonwillow_0826/Buttonwillow_STi.WMV)


Secondly, an interesting mod with data to back up. For those who have followed one of my previous reports, I have an intercooler water spray system which I put together. The original intention was to spray the old ASA intercooler. Since my Alpina bumper opening is quite restricted, I needed to cool the top part of the IC. It worked well on the tracks. Since having the new Technik Engineering IC, the IC spray has proved to be less than functional, producing very minimal results. Reason is simple. The TE IC is wider and lower, which in fact is a nice pair-up with my bumper. This being the case, just a couple of days before the event, I decided to re-design, re-route and re-direct the spray nozzles at the oil cooler instead. Don't take this the wrong way. The oil cooler works wonder as is. But with 40~45C (104 ~113F) on the tracks, I figure additional cooling won't hurt.

Here are the nozzles pointing at the oil cooler.

<img src="http://home.comcast.net/~csl.parts/Buttonwillow_0826/oc_spray.jpg">

Now, you must be thinking: "3 small nozzles and what can they do?". It's all about doing the engineering math, choosing the right nozzles and pressure.
Here's the graph.

<img src="http://home.comcast.net/~csl.parts/Buttonwillow_0826/oc_spray_data.jpg">

"Oil X" means oil temperature for session X. Similar notation for "IAT X". Oil and IAT from the same session have the same line colors. The percentage next to "Oil X" presents whether the spray was used. 100% means the system is armed and will spray when boost is above 0.10kgf/cm^2. There is a 40% in Session 3. The reason is almost half way through the session, I ran out of water in the tank. Session 4 is 40% as well, cos I only have 0.2gal of distilled water left. So I had to disarmed the system half way through. 0% means system not armed and not used.

Towards end of the day, it was so hot that I pitted earlier. So the data logging is shorter.

This is getting REALLY technical. Be prepared.

So what do we observe here from the graph? Oil temp from Session 2 never exceeds 130C with and average IAT of about 35C. This is also the session when the spray system was used throughout the session. One might argue that the day wasn't that hot to begin with. IAT of 35C was measured at air in motion.

Session 3 is interesting. As mentioned, I dis-armed the spray almost half way through the session and you can see the oil temp rising from 901 on.

Session 4 (after refilling the tank with 0.2 gal) shares similar oil temp profile. But soon the water ran out and I decided to pit.

Now, Session 5 is totally without using the spray. Note also that IAT 3, 4 and 4 were similar. I drove the car as just hard and without the spray, see how the initial oil temp profile in Session 5 rises. It peaks as high as the non-sprayed section in Session 3 as indicated by the black arrows. I pitted early and called it a day.

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Other things to mention:

1. After fixing the hose (as per this saga (http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=284800)), it never popped off again. Everything is working as intended.

2. I upgraded the brake caliper guide sleeves from OEM rubber to solid brass. Braking feel is better. The upgrade is more significant if you track your car. <img src="http://home.comcast.net/~alpina.nut/solid_caliper.jpg">

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My next report will be end of Sept. Until then, drive safe! :thumbup:

vmwerks
08-27-2005, 10:28 PM
Another nice write up, where did you get the brass bushings?

Mr Paddle.Shift
08-28-2005, 12:49 PM
Another nice write up, where did you get the brass bushings?

Bimmerworld or Turner have them. Not cheap though...:(

Saw your thread. Congrats on the installation! Take it easy for now. Let the compressor break in nice and smooth.

Btw, I might be up at Sears Point in Nov. Drop by?

vmwerks
08-28-2005, 01:21 PM
Bimmerworld or Turner have them. Not cheap though...:(

Saw your thread. Congrats on the installation! Take it easy for now. Let the compressor break in nice and smooth.

Btw, I might be up at Sears Point in Nov. Drop by?

Will it be on a weekend? I will try to sneak out if it is during the week too..

Caliper Bushings (http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html/show_category.asp?txtsearchParamCat=Brakes#CaliperRebuildKit s)

:yikes: $59.95 but I ordered them anyway OY! I have a boost gauge and some other stuff to install. I decided to run the ASAtronic and AFPR for now. I knew this would happen.. I have NO patience. I am leaving for the shop to do the install today. I will dyno tune late next week after I put a few miles on the S/C to break it in.

vaio76109
08-29-2005, 01:47 AM
So all in all are the bushings worth while? Any downfalls with them on the street? And which ones did you get? Easy to install as pads? Are you running both front and rear?

Mike Benvo
08-29-2005, 02:03 AM
Very Interesting Vince. Is that water spray system difficult to construct and install?

SLEEP3R
08-29-2005, 03:49 AM
you track rat you :woot:

Mr Paddle.Shift
08-29-2005, 12:23 PM
It's the 4th and 5th day of the week. I will keep you posted via PM as the date draws nearer.

Yeah, that's the kit. Though I would recommend ordering from Bimmerworld or BavAuto. I wasn't that happy with my order with Turner.

Will it be on a weekend? I will try to sneak out if it is during the week too..

Caliper Bushings (http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html/show_category.asp?txtsearchParamCat=Brakes#CaliperRebuildKit s)

:yikes: $59.95 but I ordered them anyway OY! I have a boost gauge and some other stuff to install. I decided to run the ASAtronic and AFPR for now. I knew this would happen.. I have NO patience. I am leaving for the shop to do the install today. I will dyno tune late next week after I put a few miles on the S/C to break it in.

Mr Paddle.Shift
08-29-2005, 12:33 PM
So all in all are the bushings worth while? Any downfalls with them on the street? And which ones did you get? Easy to install as pads? Are you running both front and rear?

Opps...I do owe you a write up about the bushings.

Very easy to install. Remove the guide bolts, remove the rubber bushings and install the brass bushings. Install the guide bolts. Need snap pliers for the retaining rings. They provided the guide bolts in the kit as well, although I don't see why the original guide bolts can't be used.

I have them for fronts and rears.

Absolutely no downfalls for streets. Now, the worth while part is tricky. Since you're a fellow track junkie, I'd put it on a "Do-it-when-you-feel-like-buying-yourself-a-gift" list, not the "Must-do" list. It's not a day and night difference similar to switching from OE pads to Track pads, OE brake lines to SS braided brake lines.

The brakes do feel firmer. An empirical test I did was to drive around on the track for one session with stage 2 DSC on (no 3 sec hold) and see how soon ABS kicks it. Previously running on the same configuration and same track tires, with stage 2 on for one session, I never experienced ABS kicking ever. This time I did experience on a few corners. You can think of this as the brakes locking up earlier and ABS senses it earlier.

Is this the result of the solid bushings? Without data, it's hard to back up but my intuition says yes. Any questions, let me know.

Mr Paddle.Shift
08-29-2005, 12:33 PM
Very Interesting Vince. Is that water spray system difficult to construct and install?

It's not worth it for streets, Mike.

Mr Paddle.Shift
08-29-2005, 12:44 PM
you track rat you :woot:

I take that as a compliment too? :D

samir@technik
08-29-2005, 01:00 PM
Noiceee :thumbup:

Mike Benvo
08-29-2005, 01:28 PM
It's not worth it for streets, Mike.
I know... I'm talking about for the track. There was definitly a huge loss of power after successive lap runs.

Mr Paddle.Shift
09-28-2005, 02:58 AM
Update:

Some pics I found. Courtesy of Extreme Pictures. They were there to take pictures.

<img src="http://home.comcast.net/~csl.parts//Buttonwillow_0826/SV_08_26_collage.jpg">

xS3x
09-28-2005, 10:22 PM
nice vince!! sorry i missed ya today