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DA-MOTORSPORT
09-13-2005, 06:18 PM
A four door M3 Evolution, turbocharged 1000 horsepower.

It belongs to our customer from Paris, France.

For details of the project please click:

http://www.da-motorsport.com/projeler/evolutionm3/index.htm


Enjoy M3 Turbo by DA MOTORSPORT

Mert Dastan
DA TeaM Chief

xxcosmicxx
09-13-2005, 06:24 PM
:drool:

DA-MOTORSPORT
09-13-2005, 06:25 PM
Details of the 1000 hp S50B32 project will give a clue of how much we care for details, craftman quality and reliability.

A couple weeks later, there will be videos of the monster sedan on our site.

Now I need to finish the wiring of the Haltech EMS on the E46 330ci turbo.


Mert Dastan
DA TeaM Chief

K-DOG
09-13-2005, 06:38 PM
wow just wow...... :spit:

great work.....This is actually quite a good deal. It includes full engine blueprinting, fuel system mods, chasis modifications, standalone software...etc. :drool: :clap:

DA-MOTORSPORT
09-13-2005, 06:44 PM
:thanks: K-DOG

emthree
09-13-2005, 07:11 PM
Videos & Sound Clips or ban

t61turbo
09-13-2005, 08:16 PM
...so what's the main reason for positioning turbo so close to intake manifold. I'm afraid of heat related problems...like heat soaking the intake manifold, wiring haness, etc. Maybe space issues...?

I see now. I shold have read more on your web site. Yeah, I guess it's difficult to put a big turbo on th exhaust side. Still I think there should be a heat sheild on the turbo exhaust housing

DA-MOTORSPORT
09-13-2005, 08:17 PM
turbo is insulated with a special blanket, intake manifold is also insulated, so no heat soak. When you read the text you ll see the detailssss....

Solid
09-13-2005, 08:21 PM
22k isn't bad for 1000hp

p0op3y
09-13-2005, 09:01 PM
hope the e46 m turbo comes out soon :)

DA-MOTORSPORT
09-13-2005, 09:56 PM
We will have a small website for the E46 M3 turbo kits, very few details, not as detailed as the 1000 hp one, at the end of this week.

Once the E46 M3 turbo kits are finished we will make a detailed page of it,too.

Nico3k
09-13-2005, 10:37 PM
<3 E36 M3

rocks
09-13-2005, 10:47 PM
This is good news for those with E46 M3's, these prices are spectacular...for those who were thinking of getting the Dinan SC package for their E46 M3's, hold off and wait for DA's turbocahrger kit. :clap:

Dougs325
09-13-2005, 11:32 PM
mert, you kick ass :clap:

1BADe46
09-13-2005, 11:58 PM
Details of the 1000 hp S50B32 project will give a clue of how much we care for details, craftman quality and reliability.

A couple weeks later, there will be videos of the monster sedan on our site.

Now I need to finish the wiring of the Haltech EMS on the E46 330ci turbo.


Mert Dastan
DA TeaM Chief

Any projected figures on the 330ci turbo??? and what will a kit like that be priced at?

Thanks,
Rickey

iLLM3
09-14-2005, 12:24 AM
Mert you guys are nuts :drool: :thanks: :bow: :clap:

omes
09-14-2005, 12:29 AM
Mert= Mad FI BMW Scientist....absolutely an amazing accomplishment...I bow down.

DA-MOTORSPORT
09-14-2005, 04:25 AM
Thank you very much, now working on the E46 non M3 and also M3 turbo kits.

bluecougar
09-14-2005, 04:32 AM
omg wow :drool:

EIAlfonso
09-14-2005, 04:10 PM
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=407940&page=6&pp=25

Posted by a Bimmerforums member:

Ok guys....I have spoken to a mate with a supercharged Euro M3 who knows John of Zoom motorsport well....Zoom Motorosport is a good UK BMW tuner who know their FAST Beemers (and others) as they build plenty of race cars and turbos etc

They were thinking of becoming a UK supplier for DA's turbo kits so their main main John took a trip to Turkey to check out the car and DA operation......

Anyway, John phoned my mate with the SC M3 from Turkey at the weekend to tell him about the trip etc and basically said the following (and he is hopefully going to join this forum to tell it in his own words http://images.bimmerforums.com/smilies/redspotdance.gif )

That:

He went for a ride in the 1100 bhp M3 and said it was quick but NOTHING like 1100 bhp (and he has been in that output of car to compare it with)
He said it was approximately 50-75 bhp more than Andy, my friends twin screw supercharged Euro M3....which is currently putting out 430bhp FWHP.

I make that about 500-550 being generous...

BUT...I was told that the car was overfuelling badly (as the videos confirm!) although in my mind this would not account for a 500 odd horsepower drop..

The E46 supercharger kit was apparently very good....

Also, apparently merts "hospitality" was non existent and he was left in some seedy hotel even though they met in a posh one initially http://images.bimmerforums.com/smilies/rolleyes.gif (though from what I was told John probabgly Pi**ed Mert off as he will have told him straight about the car cos he's a no messing kind of bloke...straight to the point apparently http://images.bimmerforums.com/smilies/biggrin.gif )

Lastly, Mert would NOT let John look round his workshop for some strange reason although this could be down to the fact that it is NOT the one that all his cars are photographed in and is somewhere much smaller apparently http://images.bimmerforums.com/smilies/devillook.gif


When I have spoken to John myself I will fill in any blank spots for you all though this is "straight from the horses mouth" so to speak so it will definately be true....

Sorry Mert but it looks like your car doesnt make the power you were thinking......

http://images.bimmerforums.com/smilies/wink.gif

makr
09-14-2005, 04:28 PM
Mert owned again.

DA-MOTORSPORT
09-14-2005, 06:30 PM
EIAlfonso,

read carefully,

We never went out for a test with 1100 hp M3 Coupe, as its AP Racing brakes and immobilizer are on the French M3 Sedan. Our company 1100 HP M3 Coupe was at the shop when John was here.

We have test driven the 1000 hp M3 Sedan, and one day before they came we have installed a new intank huge pump, software should be mapped as we had RICH Air fuel ratios. When John and his partner Derik were here for a SOLE DISTRIBUTORSHIP for United Kingdom I had no time to map the car and I gave them a drive.

The sedan M3 boosted 30 psi and JOHN saw it with his eyes. HE also saw Air Fuel Ratio Meter was indicating "RICH". He saw 30psi.

Basically you know wrong and we did not go out for a test with the 1100 hp M3 Coupe, ONLY tested 1000 HP M3 Sedan.

EIAlfonso
09-14-2005, 06:37 PM
Thanks for the explanation and excuses, but I'm just relaying some info and really do not need to be responded to, take care.

DA-MOTORSPORT
09-14-2005, 06:52 PM
ElAlfonso,

Power: 30 psi never ever results in 500-550 hp.
During test we were three people, with John and Derik weighing approximately 450 pounds.

Moroever on the videos, where we show 1100 hp M3 Coupe, not the M3 Sedan Turbo, that M3 weighs 3700 pounds, and a 3700 pounds M3 with 550 hp would never leave a 507 hp M5 so fast in the darkness. A 50 hp difference will never kill a car like that.

You hear some WRONG Stories, and we correct them for you.

Regarding Bimmerforums, on that particular forum there is strong jealousy against DA MOTORSPORT, they asked us to make vids, we make now they want dyno, we say there is no dyno that measures over 450 hp here, but A BIG BUT The M3 Sedan will be dynoed in France.

We do not have time to write and defend on forums such as bimmerforums where they simply JEALOUS as we make excellent systems, simply they can not believe and do not want to believe our success. Easiest thing for some of these people is JUST PUT A SMALL BLAME AND watch the other side.

As DA MOTORSPORT, we put energy, time, money and our lives into modifying BMWs. We produce Forced Induction Systems for BMWs, that do not EXIST, and we do this with highest QUALITY.

Time will prove and show what we do and what we will be doing.

That M3 Sedan will be dynoed in France and we will all together see results.

And some bmmerforum members asked for 1/4 mile figures, we will prepare a 8 second M3 for 1/4 mile put videos. We can do this easily, not with the M3 Coupe and M3 Sedan as they need to get auto trannies TH 400, wider slicks, and body work.

Simply we will buy a E36 M3 and make a drag monster. But then again, I know, some of these people will say, oops this is not correct, " you edited and played the 1/4 mile faster than it is".

We need time as the E46 non M3 turbo kits are almost finished and we started mapping with Haltech and also we need to finish E46 M3 turbo kits.

When E46 M3 and E46 non M3 turbo kits will be finished we will make a 1100 + hp M3 turbo, where we will use a 3.2L engine, revving 10.000 rpm, boosting 45 psi and having N2O for better spool up. This was on our agenda and it will be completed as all other projects we have done successfully.

DA-MOTORSPORT
09-14-2005, 06:54 PM
ElAlfonsooo,

who ever has informed you, did it wrong.

We do not offer SUPERCHARGER KITS FOR E46, as you wrote, we produce TURBOCHARGER kits for E46s, these two systems are different, if you may know.

DA-MOTORSPORT
09-14-2005, 06:58 PM
ElAlfonsooo,

Regarding hospitality: John and his partner were picked up from the airport by my PERSONAL DRIVER and then brought to a place where we met, I drove them for a dinner in a nice restaurant, and they stayed as our guests at our hotel, meaning that they were DA MOTORSPORT guests and were welcomed.

We have been very kind and exhibited hospitality, and it is not nice to write details of this.

I guess John from ZOOM MOTORSPORT will answer the WRONG STATEMENTS.

Now need to go to map 330ci with Haltech ;)

EIAlfonso
09-14-2005, 07:11 PM
OK you are right, you make whatever you said you make stop posting

Thx

sTiZZiT
09-17-2005, 12:23 PM
OK you are right, you make whatever you said you make stop posting

Thx

I used the calculator here for a rough estimate...
http://www.turbofast.com.au/tfcalc.html

I do not know most of these numbers but i put in the HIGH number of the range they recommended. I gave them a little oversized engine capacity too.

Bore: 3.5"
Stroke: 3.5"
Cylinders: 6
RPM: 8500
Ambient: 25deg C
Engine VE: 90
Boost pressure: 32psi
Compressor eff.: 70% (a HIGH number)
intercooler efficency: 70% (another HIGH number)

Results:
Engine Capacity: 201.95ci
NA CFM: 447
Intercooler temperature drop: 93degF
Turbocharged CFM: 1192
air-lbs per minute 84.4
Turbocharged BHP: 916
Turbocharged torque: 566


Something to ponder.

Another interesting note to ponder, 566ft-lbs torque is NOT alot in relationship to the HP. Most 4 cylinder cars making 600,700,800hp are making 400,500,600 wtq. Thats what the testdrive may've shown.

Not siding with anyone, just posting some numbers to contemplate.

CiscoM3
09-17-2005, 02:27 PM
mert, seriously bro, you guyz smoking some good hashish out there or what? I mean you've been talking about these 1000 HP BMWs for years now and never provided a shred of evidence to support your claims,,, only some janky videos and pictures. i can't even count how many times you've been owned on bimmerforums, but you need to quit the bullshiet and stop posting nonsense. maybe in turkey you can pull this kind of shiet, but not in this country,,, and certainly not on bimmerforums. not trying to rag on you man, but you ask for it. i think people would respect you more if you said the cars were putting out 500-600 HP and actually supported it with a timeslip or dyno. the longer you keep posting this shiet, the more people will write you off as a poser bro. keep it real.

ownage:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=407940
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=413154

DA-MOTORSPORT
09-18-2005, 08:24 AM
CiscoM3,

if you read carefully, we say that the 1k hp M3 turbo will go France and will be dynoed.

We work day and night on FI and BMWs. In USA, turbo M3s make 700 or 800 hp out of 240 hp US M3s with 22 psi, on the other side we start with Euro M3s which have 321 hp and a much more refined cylinder head and boost on top of it 30 psi. How comes that US M3s with less base power (240hp), less boost pressure, less maximum engine speed make so much power but we, with more base power (321 hp), more boost pressure, and more maximum engines speed cannot make 1000 hp?

Just wait for dyno sheet.

On DA MOTORSPORT company M3 we boost 36 psi.

They asked for videos, we did, they ask for dyno, it will come when the M3 is back in France.

Those videos are strong evidence of a "serious power", although not a proof of 1k hp.

Anyone reading our threads, watching M3 turbo videos, and reading the 1k hp M3 turbo project details on our site, will see that we are very serious with FI on BMWs. As new projects are coming into life such as E46 non M3 turbo kits you will think in a more positive way. When you see the E46 330tci dyno sheet and test videos you will say oooopsss... And once we finish the E46 M3 turbo kits, make videos and dynos, you will see what we have been talking about :)

Me and my team work day and night on BMWs and FI systems


Mert DASTAN
DA TeaM Chief