$600 turbo/supercharger???

[dbtheo]

After reading the thread about the AEM intakes, I looked them up on ebay, turns out the seller is selling this item as well:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7974296783&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT


discuss..... :dunno:

[schon weg]

...this?

http://www.turbonator.com/index.html?id=adWordsBMW

[dbtheo]

...this?

http://www.turbonator.com/index.html?id=adWordsBMW


did you even look at the link? :rolleyes:

[titanium beaver]

it might actually be legit, ive seen people take electric leaf blower motors , shove the tube of the blower into the rubber right elbow and turn it on full blast and actually pull 25+ hp out of their cars (dyno proven)

[titanium beaver]

...this?

http://www.turbonator.com/index.html?id=adWordsBMW

its not a turbonator, look at the link

[tpat]

I don't think it would fit.

[Dougs325]

technically speaking, this should actually work. It is the exact same concept as a supercharger, just electric, and not powered by your motor. IT might pull off 1-2 psi...but that's 1-2 more than I have :rolleyes:

[dbtheo]

technically speaking, this should actually work. It is the exact same concept as a supercharger, just electric, and not powered by your motor. IT might pull off 1-2 psi...but that's 1-2 more than I have :rolleyes:

that's kind of what I was thinking... it is interesting...

[naesb81]

that's kind of what I was thinking... it is interesting...

http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0406tur_knight/

read this, to 700 AMPS to create 5-6 psi, this one uses 2.2 amps.

If it looks to good to be true.....

[caferr]

technically speaking, this should actually work. It is the exact same concept as a supercharger, just electric, and not powered by your motor. IT might pull off 1-2 psi...but that's 1-2 more than I have :rolleyes:

Exactly how will this vortex generator create boost? A turbo extracts energy from the exhaust gas to spin a compressor wheel to pressurize the incoming air. A turbo extracts power from the engine to compress the air. This thing just spins it. The theory is sound, engineers have been designing heads with tumble and swirl inducing geometries for decades in order to make more power more efficiently. But, there is no way this little device can create boost, and i seriously doubt claims of 25HP.

BTW, this thing is just a larger version of those plastic "tornado" toys that kids put between two 2 liter bottles of soda to watch the water spin. Nothing more.

[Mr Paddle.Shift]

Given the benefit of the doubt, if this electric blower has similar vane design and spins at a certain RPM, there is bound to be some boost. But how much of a boost can it create is the question here.

The inconsistency here is this: 2.2A with a 12V source. Let's pick 13.2V as the running potential. That would be 29.04W in power. That's infinitesimal power compared to what most electric blowers that can produce 250CFM for less than $599. Just do a seach on leaf/vac blowers.

Unless of course a team of JPL engineers work on this and back it up with graphs and plots, I don't buy the capability of the item.

[Simple]

Technically spiking I would be surprised to see this type of air blower pass 0.5 PSI at rated flow. 0.5 PSI is something like 3.5% power increase, which is 8.7KW on 250KW engine. This is probably maximum figures.
However, as known if you run turbocharger or centrifugal supercharger standard air intake ducking creates a air flow restriction which is a beast. Assuming that you can have 0.5 PSI instead of vacuum created by suction of say turbocharger thus may make more than 3.5% power increase. It will work similar to induction piping and filter upgrade.
Over all $600 is an expensive trial with only small benefit if successful….
:rolleyes:

[BlumberB18]

Hey man, if you have $600 laying around then go for it and tell us the results. I personally dont like the idea and a leaf blower would be much better. ALso, how many people have you talked to saying they have a custom leaf blower intake.:thanks: Start a new trend!. :pimpin:


Brandon

[vmwerks]

"250CFM of forced air can also be compared to a 15-25 shot of Nitrous" :rolleyes:

[///MACHINE]

anyone wanna give this a try? come on......

[e popa]

try it I have been waiting for someone to get one and see what it does

[ArBrnSnpr]

Seems like it would only hurt your performance until you turned it on. without the motor spinning your intake would seem like it had to fight the little "turbine" that wasnt spinning. I would definitly be interested to see someone put this thing on there car and do a right up. But like its been said, if it seems to good to be true....

[dbtheo]

I know all of you are secretly hoping it really does work and save us a boat load of money :eeps:

[burrito007]

where have you guys been? this is a bilge pump that can be had for $20 on that boating website. remember?

[2000_328CI]

I wonder if it would work.. I really wish it did... would be awesome