View Full Version : Supercharged BMWs: TSI engine management for you
DA-MOTORSPORT
09-16-2005, 08:51 PM
TSI ENGINE MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS for SUPERCHARGED BMWs:
Supercharged BMW owners read carefully,
We offer TSI engine management systems for all supercharged BMWs.
As some supercharged BMWs have rising rate fuel pressure regulators, you cannot have full control of fuelling throughout the fuel map. Some points are leaner than they should be, and some points are richer than they should be. With TSI all points on the software can be mapped according to personal wishes. Basically, all areas from 18 hg-in of vacuum until 22 psi of boost pressure (or your maximum pressure) and from 0 rpm until 10.000 rpm (or your maximum engine speed) are mapped with TSI.
Supercharged BMWs should also have a modified “ignition map”, and with TSI you can advance some points for more power and retard some points for safety. Dialing in advance in required areas will certainly add power.
The success of a supercharger kit and a turbocharger kit depends on the electronics. We use TSI Engine Management System to reprogram the software on all of our BMWs whether turbocharged or supercharged. In fact mapping takes very little time for stage 1 and stage 2 kits, and removal of the original air flow meter changes the way the throttle responds.
TSI engine management system is not a piggyback unit. TSI is an engine management system. It is used in conjuction with the original Control Unit of the BMW. TSI has direct control over injectors. All six injectors are controlled via TSI. Moreover TSI has direct control over 6 coils. Meaning that the ignition maps can be programmed at each engine speed and load. We can edit and have any air fuel ratio and any ignition retard and advance throughout the power band.
Best of all is that we do not have to use the air flow meter. Instead of using an air flow meter we opt for the 22 psi internal map sensor. Air flow meters get damaged and need to be replaced in forced induction. As more and more air passes over the "hot wire" of air flow meters, they get damaged. It is expensive to buy a new air flow meter. Another nightmare for the air flow meter is RAIN. In rainy weather the meter sucks water from the cold air intake and the drivability is spoiled. In fact air flow meters do not last for a long time in forced induction applications. To have a bullet proof electronic system map sensor is used for measuring the amount of air.
Moreover, map sensor programming has power advantages over air flow meters. You have the option of map sensor based programming or throttle position based programming.
Changes in fuel and ignition map are stored on time with no delay.
TSI software runs under windows. TSI is user friendly and you have a nice and easy software.
TSI comes with wiring harness. It has launch control, boost control for turbocharged BMWs, nitrous oxide injection control, water injection and shift light features as auxilary units.
Just removing the air flow meter and installing a map sensor will show itself immediately.
With TSI you can extract more power out of your supercharger systems.
Price of TSI is very special and attracting, we will answer p-mails for pricing and orders.
Mert DASTAN
DA TeaM Chief
malakia12
09-17-2005, 02:02 PM
Spoke to you before about the TSI management system. I think I am ready to buy, can you please pm me the price of this kit shipped please?
By the way, is there a bigger discount for full blooded Greeks? :thanks:
MarvelPhx
09-17-2005, 03:35 PM
I've never had my MAF fail and how does TSI control Vanos?
Lay2Low
09-17-2005, 06:51 PM
PM Sent!
samir@technik
09-17-2005, 07:54 PM
TSI engine management system is not a piggyback unit. TSI is an engine management system. It is used in conjuction with the original Control Unit of the BMW.
Which makes it a piggyback.
Best of all is that we do not have to use the air flow meter. Instead of using an air flow meter we opt for the 22 psi internal map sensor.
Without the MAF, you'll have one heck of time telling the ECU what's going on. Stand alone + a <i>real</i> MAP sensor is a different story, but if you are keeping the ECU <i>and</i> using a device on top of it, then you are using a piggyback. Good luck getting it to run properly without the MAF.
Air flow meters get damaged and need to be replaced in forced induction. As more and more air passes over the "hot wire" of air flow meters, they get damaged.
This is a misconception. How many supercharged/turbocharged cars come with a MAF sensor from the factory?
Another nightmare for the air flow meter is RAIN. In rainy weather the meter sucks water from the cold air intake and the drivability is spoiled.
Most kits come with a filter shield for this very reason.
In fact air flow meters do not last for a long time in forced induction applications. To have a bullet proof electronic system map sensor is used for measuring the amount of air.
Maybe when you're running 20+psi, but not at low/medium boost levels.
thekubiaks
09-18-2005, 02:02 AM
:omg: OMG, that is an ambitous project, please keep us advised on how it is working out on your test cars.... Regards
DA-MOTORSPORT
09-18-2005, 09:14 PM
Malakia and Lay2Low,
you got p-mail.
NorCal BMWBoy
10-25-2005, 03:40 AM
anyone tried this piggy back yet?i need a fuel mamagement system!
MrBlonde
10-26-2005, 09:28 PM
The TSI unit is a piggyback, that's why it doesn't need to control VANOS (the DME still handles that).
Unfortunately the TSI company is no longer in existance, the two founding partners have split to form their own companies, PowerMod and Morristech.
Now you can get your MorrisTech (older style TSI units) direct from the same source as Mert, but cheaper! Avoid the middle man today!
http://www.moristech.com.au/
BMWE46Fl
10-26-2005, 11:39 PM
The TSI unit is a piggyback, that's why it doesn't need to control VANOS (the DME still handles that).
Unfortunately the TSI company is no longer in existance, the two founding partners have split to form their own companies, PowerMod and Morristech.
Now you can get your MorrisTech (older style TSI units) direct from the same source as Mert, but cheaper! Avoid the middle man today!
http://www.moristech.com.au/
hahahahha that sounded like a commercial, i really needed that laugh right now :woot:
sTiZZiT
10-27-2005, 12:36 PM
The TSI unit is a piggyback, that's why it doesn't need to control VANOS (the DME still handles that).
Unfortunately the TSI company is no longer in existance, the two founding partners have split to form their own companies, PowerMod and Morristech.
Now you can get your MorrisTech (older style TSI units) direct from the same source as Mert, but cheaper! Avoid the middle man today!
http://www.moristech.com.au/
What do these things usually sell for?
What about the emanage, theres a new one out i hear. I know nothing about it but it seems to be marketed for the same use.
redronin
10-29-2005, 12:18 AM
The TSI unit is a piggyback, that's why it doesn't need to control VANOS (the DME still handles that).
Unfortunately the TSI company is no longer in existance, the two founding partners have split to form their own companies, PowerMod and Morristech.
Now you can get your MorrisTech (older style TSI units) direct from the same source as Mert, but cheaper! Avoid the middle man today!
http://www.moristech.com.au/
wow, you just sh1t all over this thread
:owned:
gripens
12-29-2005, 04:26 PM
This is a misconception. How many supercharged/turbocharged cars come with a MAF sensor from the factory?
Most kits come with a filter shield for this very reason.
Does your ASA SK1 Kit come with a filter shield since it sits so low to the ground? If not, is there anything that can be done to avoid this exact problem (sucking in water)
Thanks
samir@technik
12-29-2005, 04:31 PM
Yes, the kit comes with a cover for the air filter.
DA-MOTORSPORT
12-29-2005, 05:42 PM
REDRONIN,
Once again, you s...t all time, I guess you have a problem with your intestines, but SUDDENLY YOU TAKE PLACE IN THE LOTTERY.
We have banned you, and no place for you at the lottery.
You want to **** into TSI and then install it on your car, wowww amazing.
Where is your pride?
You s....t first and then want to own that s......ted product, LACK OF PRIDE.
m3cabrio
12-29-2005, 06:02 PM
wow, you just sh1t all over this thread
:owned:
:lmao: Ya he did , LOL , dam they should call this thread .
I CO CK BLOCK , YOU CO CK BLOCK :lmao:
sheefo2k
12-29-2005, 06:50 PM
REDRONIN,
Once again, you s...t all time, I guess you have a problem with your intestines, but SUDDENLY YOU TAKE PLACE IN THE LOTTERY.
We have banned you, and no place for you at the lottery.
You want to **** into TSI and then install it on your car, wowww amazing.
Where is your pride?
You s....t first and then want to own that s......ted product, LACK OF PRIDE.
I m a man of respect and pride.. I would die for my respect Mert.. I think its something from overseas ;)
Egyptian over here and been to turkey twice.. Istanbul :D beautiful place
bimmer88
12-30-2005, 12:29 AM
I m a man of respect and pride.. I would die for my respect Mert.. I think its something from overseas ;)
Egyptian over here and been to turkey twice.. Istanbul :D beautiful place
well respect me and PAY ME!!!
redronin
12-30-2005, 04:30 AM
REDRONIN,
Once again, you s...t all time, I guess you have a problem with your intestines, but SUDDENLY YOU TAKE PLACE IN THE LOTTERY.
We have banned you, and no place for you at the lottery.
You want to **** into TSI and then install it on your car, wowww amazing.
Where is your pride?
You s....t first and then want to own that s......ted product, LACK OF PRIDE.
MERT.
first of all, i am ashamed that i feel the need to defend myself against such a lackluster sponsor. sure, i have been a member for only a short while, but i feel i have much more clout than your sorry company. it is a sorry waste of my time to engage in debate, but for the sake of my own education (in the unlikely event that you should provide me any) and for the sake of argument, i will respond.
the reason you have "banned" me from the lottery, is in fact the exact reason that i entered. because if i in fact was a man of true merit, (read, i care about fact, and not E-rep) i would more than love to be proved wrong.
do you honestly think that i wish to just rip on random sponsors? no. i love techinik, yet i think you are scum. i however would love to be proved wrong. every legit sponsor on this site improves my life, and my car. unfortunately because of your, or perhaps my, immaturaty, i will not be doing business with DAM ever. it is too little too late for me, or perhaps for you.
the reason i entered the lottery is simply because i was, and indeed am, your biggest skeptic. i think you MERT, and your entire team are full of, to use an english phrase, SH1T.
now i do not wish to see you fail, no. i simply have seen way too many broken promises, broken deadlines, broken quotes on prices, to EVER take you seriously. why dont you do your research on real companies. search for technik threads. they invest on what is commonly known as "costomer service" they only release information when they think it is accurate, not when they think it will create the most hype. take notes. because as far as i can tell, you are the b1tch of the FI community. just a wannabe, and i would go as far to assume thats all you will ever acheive mert.
to reiterate, i joined the lottery because MERT, you were too good to be true, and in fact i believe that you are too good to be true. i believe you are a whole lot of hot air, and a mediocre at best company. if i were to take the liberty to make assumptions i would say that you seem to be liken to scam artists. but i would not take such a liberty.
so i wished, i hoped, i prayed that you would prove me wrong mert. whether through me, or as i said, another USA REPUTABLE member. if you actually read my post you would realize, i didnt give a crap if it was me, or not, i just wanted justification. you said youve been selling kits for many months. ive seen nothing.
my faith in you is less than a fairy tale. it takes only a few dollars to get your name 'green' mert. dont think for a second that i will respect you for it. you, as everyone else, must earn respect on this board. i know that before me, and after me many will give it blindly, but guess what. you DO NOT IMPRESS ME. so get to it. get off your lazy ass and impress me mert. all ive seen for 6 loooong months is broken promises, deadlines, and budgets.
redronin
12-30-2005, 04:35 AM
mert i joined the lottery, because of the simple fact, after all my posts, what could validate you more than a raving review of your biggest antagonist?
please do not think that the promise of a few thousand USD temps me for more than a few minutes, we ARE NOT the japanese import crowd. after 35k, 7 more means very little. especially at the cost of self respect. remember, many members spend that much on wheels.
rethink who you are trying to either scam, or sell to mert....
take english lessons mert. i do not think you fully understand what PRIDE means.....
m3cabrio
12-30-2005, 12:27 PM
mert i joined the lottery, because of the simple fact, after all my posts, what could validate you more than a raving review of your biggest antagonist?
please do not think that the promise of a few thousand USD temps me for more than a few minutes, we ARE NOT the japanese import crowd. after 35k, 7 more means very little. especially at the cost of self respect. remember, many members spend that much on wheels.
rethink who you are trying to either scam, or sell to mert....
take english lessons mert. i do not think you fully understand what PRIDE means.....
Let it go redronin , your right .
redronin
12-30-2005, 05:16 PM
5 am ramblings of a drunk man, haha.
after re reading my last post i went to far a few times. for that i am sorry, but you get the gist.
ok i will now patiently wait for the (hopefully) good news of an active member with a much faster car :)
REDRONIN,
Once again, you s...t all time, I guess you have a problem with your intestines, but SUDDENLY YOU TAKE PLACE IN THE LOTTERY.
We have banned you, and no place for you at the lottery.
You want to **** into TSI and then install it on your car, wowww amazing.
Where is your pride?
You s....t first and then want to own that s......ted product, LACK OF PRIDE.
Hahahaha. Redronin got owned! the kid talks all this sh1tz and now wanted to join the lottery. what a pathetic and desperate retard:owned:
P.S. Before you come back in here and try to explain your self with your endless rant why you entered the lottery, I just want to say I DON'T CARE.
I have no time for your excuses. Even with your excuses, you can't deny the following:
1) You talked major sh1tz about Mert. You bashed his product and his company
2) You then sign up for the lottery.
3) You got owned by Mert.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Which makes it a piggyback.
Without the MAF, you'll have one heck of time telling the ECU what's going on. Stand alone + a <i>real</i> MAP sensor is a different story, but if you are keeping the ECU <i>and</i> using a device on top of it, then you are using a piggyback. Good luck getting it to run properly without the MAF.
This is a misconception. How many supercharged/turbocharged cars come with a MAF sensor from the factory?
Most kits come with a filter shield for this very reason.
Maybe when you're running 20+psi, but not at low/medium boost levels.
The technic guys is also pathetic. I like it how vendors on here hates competition and use every opportunuty to bashed each other. I lost all my respect for Technic for sharp shooting and seconding guessing Mert.
BayerischeMW
01-07-2006, 10:52 AM
how is it bashing if the info provided is legit? you're defending Mert like he doesn't know how to do it himself. if Samir's statements aren't correct, why doesn't Mert make a comeback stating so?
how is it bashing if the info provided is legit? you're defending Mert like he doesn't know how to do it himself. if Samir's statements aren't correct, why doesn't Mert make a comeback stating so?
Okay...valid point. However, Technik intent wasn't to "protect" the consumer but instead to "protect" himself. He feels threaten by Mert and his company. He feels threaten because he thinks he might loose potential customer and thus $$$. This is what's pathetic about it.
Let products roll out. Let's consumer decides. The best product will speak for itself.
BMWintoxication
01-08-2006, 08:39 PM
Okay...valid point. However, Technik intent wasn't to "protect" the consumer but instead to "protect" himself. He feels threaten by Mert and his company. He feels threaten because he thinks he might loose potential customer and thus $$$. This is what's pathetic about it.
Let products roll out. Let's consumer decides. The best product will speak for itself.
you really like to talk like "i know it all".. huh?..
me too, but i don't know it all, so i keep it quiet and don't try to offend other people.
playinJ30
01-09-2006, 10:40 PM
don't hate on Technik (Samir)
that guy knows more than 99.999999999% of the people in the world about forced induction w/ BMWs, and all of his statements were completely objective factual statements.
i for one have been following DAM and mert's progress for quite some time and have seen some big question marks as well as some very interesting and impressive work.
I don't think people just tear up BMWs and put turbos and SCs on them just to try and scam people... I think DAM is trying and may or may not be approaching it correctly at different times
technik engineering, ESS, VF, RMS (LORD KNOWS), even Dinan, have all had their points in exposure where they were legitimately questioned in their practices or product, and it is about hte final product and hwo they make things right in the end that matters
in conclusion, you are all haters becuase none of you are from texas and therefore must be jealous that Vince Young is my homeboy.
OCswedishM3
01-09-2006, 11:10 PM
don't hate on Technik (Samir)
that guy knows more than 99.999999999% of the people in the world about forced induction w/ BMWs, and all of his statements were completely objective factual statements.
i for one have been following DAM and mert's progress for quite some time and have seen some big question marks as well as some very interesting and impressive work.
I don't think people just tear up BMWs and put turbos and SCs on them just to try and scam people... I think DAM is trying and may or may not be approaching it correctly at different times
technik engineering, ESS, VF, RMS (LORD KNOWS), even Dinan, have all had their points in exposure where they were legitimately questioned in their practices or product, and it is about hte final product and hwo they make things right in the end that matters
in conclusion, you are all haters becuase none of you are from texas and therefore must be jealous that Vince Young is my homeboy.
Im not jealous that VY is your homeboy. As i played with Carson Palmer. Im sure alot of people have friends that a great athlete's, but thats cool nevertheless. It is nice to see that a great athlete has some class though..Tell him not to say "baby" so much though...haha
playinJ30
01-10-2006, 05:33 AM
Im not jealous that VY is your homeboy. As i played with Carson Palmer. Im sure alot of people have friends that a great athlete's, but thats cool nevertheless. It is nice to see that a great athlete has some class though..Tell him not to say "baby" so much though...haha
i'm sorry, i couldn't hear what you were saying over the popping sound of carson's ligaments popping...
the VY thing was a little joke, let's stay on topic
redronin
01-10-2006, 06:12 AM
Okay...valid point. However, Technik intent wasn't to "protect" the consumer but instead to "protect" himself. He feels threaten by Mert and his company. He feels threaten because he thinks he might loose potential customer and thus $$$. This is what's pathetic about it.
Let products roll out. Let's consumer decides. The best product will speak for itself.
1. imho samir is not "protecting himself" per se but questioning a maybe or maybe not second rate way to do things. dam consisttently exclaims THIS IS NOT A PIGGY BACK SYSTEM howevwe everyone who is a FI addict seems to think it is. why bash samir for a little healthy competition? should he not push the envelope and demand the same from competitors?
2. as to myself, i have already explained, so i will not again. perhaps i have alienated myself from some FI forum readers, but anyone who reads what i write knnows to take my posts with a grain of salt. see sig. its not a joke
OCswedishM3
01-10-2006, 06:28 AM
i'm sorry, i couldn't hear what you were saying over the popping sound of carson's ligaments popping...
the VY thing was a little joke, let's stay on topic
Oh thats not cool.. I was joking and having some fun. That injury was bullshit and u shouldnt make fun of an injury. But as facts state i doubt VY will go number 1 and i doubt that in his second year of starting he will be the number 2 quarterback in the NFL...Would u like to wager a bet?
Mike Benvo
01-10-2006, 10:46 AM
You should really watch out who your call pathetic on this forum. Business is business and should be kept to those terms. Mert exclaiming that the TSI is not a piggyback system, and then shortly thereafter saying that it works in conjunction with the factory ECU is a contradiction in itself. I would expect Technik to call attention to the fact that Mert has released inaccurate information - whether that was Mert’s intention or not is not the issue.
Regardless, I think Technik is secure in their operations and need not worry about the competition. DA-M arguing with Technik is like my mother arguing with me about computers; where I am the computer technician. I am not discrediting DA in any way, but I've seen nothing but "mislead roads" (yes, a metaphor!) in following their company.
When Technik brings personal feelings and biases into the mix- then you have the right to call them out. Suggesting that what Samir did was unwarranted, especially after his non judgmental, informational, fact inspired posts is pure idiocy. Remember that you are discrediting a comapany that not only sponsors this forum, but has hundreds of succesful applications on every three series application.
russ330
01-10-2006, 02:28 PM
Regardless, I think Technik is secure in their operations and need not worry about the competition.
BIG WORD to that :werd:
BoostedBoogie
01-10-2006, 05:00 PM
wait a minute, if hung's kit was shipped out, shouldn't DAM be able to provide pictures of their installed kits by now? i'm sure they wouldn't ship out an untested kit.
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