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alizbeemer
04-18-2006, 10:42 AM
Yeah, sadly.
PS. I am not an ANTI-AUTOWERKS member. I actually like auto-werks for providing excellent deals to this community. However, I am an anti JIM POWELL guy.
Noticed how JIM POWELL came on here and TOOK all the credit for releasing the LED lights? He said it help design, test, produce, and distribute the tail lights. However, since everything is going wrong JIM POWELL just disappear.
Jim powell is a very poor business man with poor business management. If you know him like I do (back in the days of the orginal DDEs in bf.com) you will see that this guy is either retarded and/or dumb or just plain shaddy.
JIM POWELL? since you claimed you were the driving and instrumental factor in this LED project then what do you have to say about the JUNE released date? Why are you leaving AUTOWERKS out to dry?
ADA there is no need to bash Jim Powell at all if anything your not making any type of sense. Your saying that your not a anti-autowerks guy but a anti Jim Powell guy..Autowerks is a vendor of Jim Powell and he has many other vendors like M3 Motorwerks etc.
Furthermore, JIm Powell has not been disappearing he does not come the forums as a vender because he has vendors that already sell for him..Because of the entire led madness he has replied due to delays and complications.He has gone over seas to meet with eagle eyes and sqaure everything away so all us can have led lights. I truely don't see any point in bashing some one when they are not at fault if anything, trying hard to prove results..Yes we have been waiting for a year including myself but its not Jim Powell's fault just like its not Autowerks fault. Bashing someone will not give us results..I truely understand everyones fustration on this matter but come on bro no need for this man. :thumbup:
mteezy
04-18-2006, 11:50 AM
Not that I dont like reading all of the unofficial reports but I was wondering if Josh could give us an Official one...Thanks
Nuori
04-18-2006, 12:23 PM
It will be alot more similar when I go back to the black moldings. :thumbup:
It's alright, both cars look good.
Why are you going back to black? I'd trade with you. :dunno:
Josh@AutoWerks
04-18-2006, 12:34 PM
OK, everybody, here is an "official" update.
The bottom line right now is that I just don't know the exact status on the LEDs. We had a firm ship date that the factory was committed to, we ran out and passed this information on to our customers and as of this moment, I don't know why they are not shipping.
I don't want to go into a lot of detail of what I think is going on because that is just speculation on my part and not fair to the manufacturer and other individuals that are involved. And no, I don't blame Jim - the reason he doesn't post here is because he can't - he is not a supporting vendor.
As far as I know the lights passed DOT, so that is not the problem. My guess is that they still are having some light failure warning issues with the LCM.
I wish I had better news. I wish I could tell you these were shipping right now and I know this sucks. I don't blame any of you for being frustrated - we are too.
The Euro spec versions have been available in limited quantities for some time, but they are not DOT approved and do not work correctly on US spec cars. I know MITE46 and others may be working on a fix for this and I will be interested to see if they get it working. From what I have seen on that thread, it doesn't look like a complete fix in all operating conditions. It is not as simple as adding on a few resistors - if it was we would have been shipping long ago.
We are pushing the factory hard for updates. They manufacture thousands of OEM replacement parts but this is the first product of this type that they have tackled. I think they underestimated its complexity.
Again, I wish I had better news. We are being as honest and open about what is going on as we can be. I do respect Eagle Eyes for not releasing the product until it is 100% right. This is costing them boatloads of money and I am sure they are not happy with these delays either.
As soon as we get any new information, we will post it right here!
4ngie
04-18-2006, 12:50 PM
Thanks Josh. :)
BimmaBwoy
04-18-2006, 02:12 PM
appreciate the info guys. keep up the good work.
ImolaZHPDom
04-18-2006, 03:13 PM
The Euro spec versions have been available in limited quantities for some time, but they are not DOT approved and do not work correctly on US spec cars. I know MITE46 and others may be working on a fix for this and I will be interested to see if they get it working. From what I have seen on that thread, it doesn't look like a complete fix in all operating conditions. It is not as simple as adding on a few resistors - if it was we would have been shipping long ago.
Actually the Euro lights can work fine on US cars. Many of us have successfully had them installed on US cars and I speak from personal experience that they work flawlessly with no LCM or lights-out issues on my 03 330i. DOT approval isn't really a concern for me. If they are approved for EURO use I'm sure they are fine for us and the DOT approval is a formality. MITE has a unique situation with using an M3 LCM so I wouldn't use him as an example.
All that aside I really hope you can get these lights sooner than later for the sake of those on the board. You guys seem like stand up vendors who are doing their best. Unfortunately some of us can't wait and must go our own route with the Euros. Good luck!
Adenosinebambam
04-18-2006, 03:21 PM
I think as long as we have general updates it would be ok.. ESP if we preordered an e-mail would have been nice.... anything...
deafboy
04-18-2006, 03:32 PM
Cool....thanks. I would just like to have my lights before I leave for the summer.
Again, thanx for the update.
mteezy
04-18-2006, 05:39 PM
Thanks for the update Josh
330 HRE
04-18-2006, 05:53 PM
Actually the Euro lights can work fine on US cars. Many of us have successfully had them installed on US cars and I speak from personal experience that they work flawlessly with no LCM or lights-out issues on my 03 330i. DOT approval isn't really a concern for me. If they are approved for EURO use I'm sure they are fine for us and the DOT approval is a formality. MITE has a unique situation with using an M3 LCM so I wouldn't use him as an example.
All that aside I really hope you can get these lights sooner than later for the sake of those on the board. You guys seem like stand up vendors who are doing their best. Unfortunately some of us can't wait and must go our own route with the Euros. Good luck!
You are probably right about them working now, but what about the long term effects. If it doesn't kill your LCM now doesn't mean it won't later. Its like the Corner delete mod with the LEDs...some guys had them for about a year and then it decided to kill the LCM. I hope all goes well with all the ones that got the euro taillights.
MITE46
04-18-2006, 06:48 PM
Which is why they have to do some major changes to their design if the current euros are flawed...again the wiring goes strait into the PCB directly from the connector...
By your same argument you can say anything other than the factory bulb can cause the LCM to fail over time...The best you can do is try to match the electrical characteristics of a incandescent 12V light bulb...and hope it doesn't burn over time...
ImolaZHPDom
04-18-2006, 06:58 PM
You are probably right about them working now, but what about the long term effects. If it doesn't kill your LCM now doesn't mean it won't later. Its like the Corner delete mod with the LEDs...some guys had them for about a year and then it decided to kill the LCM. I hope all goes well with all the ones that got the euro taillights.
Good point. I guess that's a risk we are taking.
Even if that happens in 6 months or a year I guess I would be willing to pay the cost of a new LCM. Even if someday I need to buy a new one so what, that's a small price to pay vs waiting forever and then some for the official ones. I like being the only guy in the city or probably state to have them!
In other words the cost of needing a new LCM (doubtful) :dunno: vs waiting and waiting and wating some more is well worth the risk IMO. To each is own though. I commend you guys for your patience. :clap:
Custom3
04-18-2006, 07:25 PM
I knew it.....
Autowerks you need to do something fast...theres another vendor on here selling led tailights including shipping for $300 and delivered asap....im not going to say what vendor sent me the private message all im saying is your making yourselves look bad.:thumbdwn:
OK, everybody, here is an "official" update.
The bottom line right now is that I just don't know the exact status on the LEDs. We had a firm ship date that the factory was committed to, we ran out and passed this information on to our customers and as of this moment, I don't know why they are not shipping.
I don't want to go into a lot of detail of what I think is going on because that is just speculation on my part and not fair to the manufacturer and other individuals that are involved. And no, I don't blame Jim - the reason he doesn't post here is because he can't - he is not a supporting vendor.
As far as I know the lights passed DOT, so that is not the problem. My guess is that they still are having some light failure warning issues with the LCM.
I wish I had better news. I wish I could tell you these were shipping right now and I know this sucks. I don't blame any of you for being frustrated - we are too.
The Euro spec versions have been available in limited quantities for some time, but they are not DOT approved and do not work correctly on US spec cars. I know MITE46 and others may be working on a fix for this and I will be interested to see if they get it working. From what I have seen on that thread, it doesn't look like a complete fix in all operating conditions. It is not as simple as adding on a few resistors - if it was we would have been shipping long ago.
We are pushing the factory hard for updates. They manufacture thousands of OEM replacement parts but this is the first product of this type that they have tackled. I think they underestimated its complexity.
Again, I wish I had better news. We are being as honest and open about what is going on as we can be. I do respect Eagle Eyes for not releasing the product until it is 100% right. This is costing them boatloads of money and I am sure they are not happy with these delays either.
As soon as we get any new information, we will post it right here!
330 HRE
04-18-2006, 09:32 PM
I knew it.....
Autowerks you need to do something fast...theres another vendor on here selling led tailights including shipping for $300 and delivered asap....im not going to say what vendor sent me the private message all im saying is your making yourselves look bad.:thumbdwn:
Well since you have a coupe...go with OEM...none of these aftermarket taillights will be good as OEM.
Josh@AutoWerks
04-18-2006, 09:32 PM
You are probably right about them working now, but what about the long term effects. If it doesn't kill your LCM now doesn't mean it won't later. Its like the Corner delete mod with the LEDs...some guys had them for about a year and then it decided to kill the LCM. I hope all goes well with all the ones that got the euro taillights.
I don't think the real issue is that it would kill your LCM, although I guess that is a risk. The issue is to get the lights working properly under all operating conditions. Working properly means that they do not throw fault codes and they light up correctly every time. Simply getting this to occur on a 70 degree day on one car does not necessarily solve the problem. It has to work every time at -30 and at 150 degrees.
The problem with a non-manufacturer remedy is that it may work or it may not. For some this isn't an issue, just like DOT certification may not be important. For others, this may be very important. I think a key point is that this isn't simply some interior bulb or fog light we are talking about. I really like knowing that my brake lights are working properly every time. I also like it to notify me when they are not. As a responsible retailer, I could never sell this product unless I felt that it met these standards. If your brake lights decide not to work properly and your dash warning lights don't alert you to this as you drive down the highway at 70+MPH, you could be in serious trouble.
This isn't an excuse for the delays. I have run out of those. But it is the reason why the product can't be released until it is right.
Josh@AutoWerks
04-18-2006, 09:41 PM
I knew it.....
Autowerks you need to do something fast...theres another vendor on here selling led tailights including shipping for $300 and delivered asap....im not going to say what vendor sent me the private message all im saying is your making yourselves look bad.:thumbdwn:
Well, we certainly hate to make ourselves look bad!
Look, there is high demand for this product. When that happens people will try to find other sources. Right now, Eagle Eyes is releasing limited numbers of Euro spec LED tail lights. But, they are making the distributors sign a document saying that they will not sell them to the US. Some will play by the rules and some will not.
If this other vendor is selling Euros in the US, then they are trying to make a quick buck by selling non-approved, untested, non-DOT products against the wishes of the manufacturer. There will be no warranty support and no one to complain to if they don't work down the road. I would argue that we are not the ones looking bad in this situation.
That is simply not how we do business. No product is worth diminishing our reputation within the industry and if that means we never sell a single LED tail light and someone else sells a bunch on the "black market" then so be it. In the long run operating your business that way does not pay off. I wonder why they just PMd you and did not make a general post?
NorthJersey 3er
04-18-2006, 10:20 PM
We should know something by tomorrow morning.
Have patience, guys! These aren't interior lights, they're brake lights. Our safety depends on it so I want them to work flawlessly. If that means that I have to wait, then I'll wait.
:clap: i got oem clears for now, im chillin, but patiently waiting :burnout:
deafboy
04-19-2006, 01:05 AM
Josh, if you could predict a date what would you say? Nothing official. Just a guess. Do you think I will get these before I leave for the summer? If not I may need to cancel my order.
Thanks for all of the info.
foodidoo
04-19-2006, 03:51 PM
http://www.menphis75.com/images/foto_txt_mistery/nostradamus.jpg
Maybe nastodamus has a date
mteezy
04-19-2006, 06:38 PM
LOL. best idea I have heard yet...
deafboy
04-20-2006, 07:43 PM
Update please....
deafboy
04-21-2006, 08:07 PM
:bump:
Nuori
04-21-2006, 10:19 PM
You can't expect an update of nothing daily. When there is news it will be passed on. I can assure you Josh will be on top of it. :thumbup:
deafboy
04-21-2006, 11:10 PM
haha...i just have high hopes.
thanks.
oh...and woot woot. 1000th post.
EIAlfonso
04-21-2006, 11:33 PM
These lights wouldn't happened to be manaufactured in Turkey would they?:eeps:
deafboy
04-22-2006, 12:10 AM
Why? what dif would that make?
dirsh
04-22-2006, 08:44 PM
These lights wouldn't happened to be manaufactured in Turkey would they?:eeps:
lmfAO! :spit:
deafboy
04-24-2006, 02:33 PM
:bump:
GBond007
04-25-2006, 06:54 PM
So I am guessing that this thread is finished and so are the possibilities of us ever receiving these lights......right?:banghead:
mahoor78
04-26-2006, 09:47 AM
nothing??!!!
phatmustang73
04-26-2006, 02:42 PM
:thumbdwn: to everyone involved in the manufacturing, distribution, and sales process of this product. When you have a deadline, you meet it. Otherwise, don't set a deadline and come up with empty promises. Bad business practice.
PYRITE
04-26-2006, 02:48 PM
:thumbdwn: to everyone involved in the manufacturing, distribution, and sales process of this product. When you have a deadline, you meet it. Otherwise, don't set a deadline and come up with empty promises. Bad business practice.
DELETE THREAD FOR CHRISTS SAKE !
minsoox1983
04-26-2006, 03:10 PM
Lets respect their decisions for the delay. (better than getting a crappy product and compain) Autowerks even promised us to do their best. I'm pleased to hear that.
Even though it's hard, let's wait patiently, To me, this worth to wait,, since i don't want to face any problem after i receive the product.
I'm sure Autowerks will let us know as soon as he finds out something.
Josh@AutoWerks
04-26-2006, 04:00 PM
:thumbdwn: to everyone involved in the manufacturing, distribution, and sales process of this product. When you have a deadline, you meet it. Otherwise, don't set a deadline and come up with empty promises. Bad business practice.
I agree that product delays are a bad thing. We try to avoid them at all costs and we have successfully launched many products exactly on time (often early). Unfortunately, this one has been delayed. This is regretable but it does happen. Even BMW has been known to have delays in model launches and generally I think they are a pretty good company.
I hope the mods do not delete this thread becuase there is a lot of valuable information here that would be lost.
It may be hard to see but we are working very hard behind the scenes to wrap up the remaining few loose ends. Jim is in China right now working face to face with Eagle Eyes. The truth is that we could release the product right now and try to customer engineer around the fault code issue or other minor glitches but we are not going to do that.
We remain committed to keeping you informed of the product's status and remain committed to getting it to market as soon as possible.
Thanks for your understanding.
deafboy
04-27-2006, 02:17 AM
I'm just disappointed because no one has replied to my e-mail that I sent to you guys.
ImolaZHPDom
04-27-2006, 07:30 AM
I agree that product delays are a bad thing. We try to avoid them at all costs and we have successfully launched many products exactly on time (often early). Unfortunately, this one has been delayed. This is regretable but it does happen. Even BMW has been known to have delays in model launches and generally I think they are a pretty good company.
I hope the mods do not delete this thread becuase there is a lot of valuable information here that would be lost.
It may be hard to see but we are working very hard behind the scenes to wrap up the remaining few loose ends. Jim is in China right now working face to face with Eagle Eyes. The truth is that we could release the product right now and try to customer engineer around the fault code issue or other minor glitches but we are not going to do that.
We remain committed to keeping you informed of the product's status and remain committed to getting it to market as soon as possible.
Thanks for your understanding.
Agreed that the thread shouldn't be deleted. But it should be renamed. It's getting tiresome seeing it state that the LEDs have arrived. (It's only making you guys look bad Josh even if it isn't your fault).
One suggestion Josh (this isn't hate), you guys should probably stop taking orders for these things. I know you are an honest company but if someone happened on your web site and didn't know the history behind these lights they might place a good faith order thinking they would have them in a few weeks when we still have NO idea how long it will be. Just a suggestion since it seems even you guys are in the dark about an actual ship date and even if you had one it's doubtful anyone would believe it at this point.
Good luck!
Custom3
04-27-2006, 10:19 AM
Poor Jim....hes been in China for a while :eeps:
We need Eagle Eyes to step up to the plate and let us know whats really going on. :thumbsup:
Chris@AutoWerks
04-27-2006, 01:06 PM
I'm just disappointed because no one has replied to my e-mail that I sent to you guys.
We recieve tons of emails regarding the LEDs. We have to sort through them one by one. We probably haven't gotten to yours yet, I bet it's coming up soon. PM me you email and I'll answer it right away. :thumbsup:
Chris@AutoWerks
04-27-2006, 01:24 PM
Agreed that the thread shouldn't be deleted. But it should be renamed. It's getting tiresome seeing it state that the LEDs have arrived. (It's only making you guys look bad Josh even if it isn't your fault).
One suggestion Josh (this isn't hate), you guys should probably stop taking orders for these things. I know you are an honest company but if someone happened on your web site and didn't know the history behind these lights they might place a good faith order thinking they would have them in a few weeks when we still have NO idea how long it will be. Just a suggestion since it seems even you guys are in the dark about an actual ship date and even if you had one it's doubtful anyone would believe it at this point.
Good luck!
We are taking pre-orders, but on the website it says they'll be available shortly. We don't charge them, we also send them an email saying they're unavailable. We take every precautionary step to assure the customer is informed about the wait and make sure they're comfortable with the wait before the order over the phone.
BimmerBoy111
04-28-2006, 12:01 AM
We are taking pre-orders, but on the website it says they'll be available shortly. We don't charge them, we also send them an email saying they're unavailable. We take every precautionary step to assure the customer is informed about the wait and make sure they're comfortable with the wait before the order over the phone.
This tread should definitely be deleted! I looked at the first couple pages and decided to place an order thinking that these are in stock or will be in stock soon since the thread is 4 months old and states "AutoWerks E46 LED Tail Lights Are Here!"
You should take this product off your website until you actually have a product to sell or
state
Product not yet released and taking Pre-orders - It is deceptive and just bad business to keep it on your site
I emailed you back for a refund -
Order #20234 -
paypal id - jaq111ue@yahoo.com
deafboy
04-28-2006, 01:14 AM
^
:werd:
GBond007
05-02-2006, 11:18 AM
Did we move this thread or has everyone just given up hope? :bawling:
AlBoston
05-02-2006, 12:01 PM
what a joke this thread is. :wtf:
Don't make promises u know u can't keep. :thumbdwn:
Custom3
05-02-2006, 07:04 PM
I lost hope already...I could have had these on my hands already BUT since i rather my baby have DOT approved tailights for safety reasons i have decided to wait...and wait...and wait...oh yeah and wait......The moment i recieve these tailights..(a year or 2 from now)...if i see some kind of flaw on these leds i will be blowing a gasket :)...for something to take this long i expect nothing but perfection.
AlBoston
05-02-2006, 09:31 PM
I lost hope already...I could have had these on my hands already BUT since i rather my baby have DOT approved tailights for safety reasons i have decided to wait...and wait...and wait...oh yeah and wait......The moment i recieve these tailights..(a year or 2 from now)...if i see some kind of flaw on these leds i will be blowing a gasket :)...for something to take this long i expect nothing but perfection.
F that cancel ur order and get the real deal from ur BMW dealer. Screw these morons.
Chris@AutoWerks
05-03-2006, 02:46 AM
F that cancel ur order and get the real deal from ur BMW dealer. Screw these morons.
I don't understand where your hostility comes from towards us. Please refrain from any sort of assaults towards us and/or our company. If we were manufacturing these LED we would literally have an update weekly, but we're not. Eagle Eyes is the manufacturer and we give word when we get word.
ImolaZHPDom
05-03-2006, 04:19 AM
I don't understand where your hostility comes from towards us. Please refrain from any sort of assaults towards us and/or our company. If we were manufacturing these LED we would literally have an update weekly, but we're not. Eagle Eyes is the manufacturer and we give word when we get word.
Chris, people are just frusturated. You guys have been good about posting updates but they have always been vague and truthfully somewhat unhelpful. This is probaby just a direct reflection of the info you are getting so I don't necessairly blame you.
I still say you guys should stop taking pre-orders or at least change the Available Soon message to something more realistic. "Available Soon" to people who happen on your web site might seem like "any day now" when this probably isn't the case. You guys have a great reputation but this is the type of thing that keeps people frusturated.
Good luck once again.
deafboy
05-03-2006, 08:20 PM
^
:werd: x100
lil' did i know I would be waiting months. and still with no reply to my e-mail :(
JC7727
05-03-2006, 10:20 PM
This is what happens when you deal with people like Jim Powell.
jeeeeee
05-03-2006, 10:27 PM
any updates??
jeeeeee
05-03-2006, 11:33 PM
You know what. Autowerks should've just posted <b>April Fools! We can't get the taillights and none of you are getting your money back either you suckers!!" </b> on april 1st.
BimmaBwoy
05-04-2006, 08:16 AM
^^ I have to laugh at your comments jeeeeee b/c I think it's funny.
Come on guys seriously I keep thinking that people are completely missing the point (safety). I believe autowerks has done and keeps doing what they can on their end to satisfy customers. I've talked to these guys on numerous occasions and it's always the same thing. When they find out something you almost literally see it posted immediately. If there's no news that's fed to them then there's no news for us. They are taking a beating b/c of this LED situation. I agree that everyone is frustrated (including myself) and just about given up hope on LED tails (pretty much) until I hear/see them for myself. IMO if this pushes on further and further there's not going to be a need for them b/c mostly everyone is going to move on to newer rides (Ex: E90's etc) and Eagle Eyes is going to lose out. Hey when I realized that this wasn't going to happen I just bought OEM clears and was satisfied with that. It's been said again and again. If you want the LED tails and you can't wait go on ebay and purchase them. If you want to give your business to a reputable company then you will have to have patience plain and simple.
Chris@AutoWerks
05-04-2006, 10:13 AM
^
:werd: x100
lil' did i know I would be waiting months. and still with no reply to my e-mail :(
PM me your order number and I'll get everything worked out with you.
deafboy
05-06-2006, 11:27 PM
^
yay...I finally got a reply.
not was I was hoping but nonetheless a reply.
thanx :)
GBond007
05-08-2006, 08:06 PM
I see that autowerks has finally taken down the product page with the LED Taillights. So what does this mean since you are finally doing it now....have you guys given up yourselves?
trizzuth
05-08-2006, 08:48 PM
Hmm. I wonder what would happen. just wonder. If I started selling LED Tail load resistor kits, customized to your specific LED Tails (Red/Clear, or Red/Clear/Red), delivered to your house within 20 days max (much less delivery time if there was little interest). You would get the package, use the snap-wire tap ins and splice into the existing LED Tail wiring, mount the load box behind your trunk panel, and cover. BOOM, fully working LED Tails, no dash warning. The only problem is that the issues presented seem too complex to fully cover, some give dash warning only, some give dash warning and screw up the LCM, some need LCM reflash, or NEW LCM, seems tough to solve this puzzle with one set of universal LED Tails for the E46. That's precisely why the load resistor packs would work. Custom, based on each set. yeaaaaaa. I think I just patented that. :thumbup:
Chris@AutoWerks
05-09-2006, 10:35 AM
I see that autowerks has finally taken down the product page with the LED Taillights. So what does this mean since you are finally doing it now....have you guys given up yourselves?
You mean this page?
http://www.autowerks.com/xcart/customer/product.php?productid=22700&cat=314&page=1
B1MM3R
05-09-2006, 10:48 AM
This tread should definitely be deleted! I looked at the first couple pages and decided to place an order thinking that these are in stock or will be in stock soon since the thread is 4 months old and states "AutoWerks E46 LED Tail Lights Are Here!"
You should take this product off your website until you actually have a product to sell or
state
Product not yet released and taking Pre-orders - It is deceptive and just bad business to keep it on your site
I emailed you back for a refund -
Order #20234 -
paypal id - jaq111ue@yahoo.com
HOLY SHMOLY!! WHAT THE FHUCK DUDE? THIS THREAD'S STILL GOING?
A~~~~~, M~~~~~ PREDICTING A 50 PAGE THREAD WITH NOTHING MORE THAN WORDS WORDS AND MORE WORDS.
GBond007
05-09-2006, 01:31 PM
You mean this page?
http://www.autowerks.com/xcart/customer/product.php?productid=22700&cat=314&page=1
Oh....
I couldn't find it earlier....guess I am just a retard. :rolleyes:
"AutoWerks is now taking pre-orders on fully tested E46 LED Tail Lights. You will not be charged until they ship. The first production run is almost sold out."
"Availability: Pre-Orders only. Available Soon."
Does this mean that I will receive mine now since I am still a pre-order?
GBond007
05-09-2006, 01:45 PM
Oh....
I couldn't find it earlier....guess I am just a retard. :rolleyes:
"AutoWerks is now taking pre-orders on fully tested E46 LED Tail Lights. You will not be charged until they ship. The first production run is almost sold out."
"Availability: Pre-Orders only. Available Soon."
Does this mean that I will receive mine now since I am still a pre-order?
Don't pay attention to the above statement, I am simply proving to everyone that I have the comprehension of a three year old.
BimmerBoy111
05-10-2006, 11:23 AM
HOLY SHMOLY!! WHAT THE FHUCK DUDE? THIS THREAD'S STILL GOING?
A~~~~~, M~~~~~ PREDICTING A 50 PAGE THREAD WITH NOTHING MORE THAN WORDS WORDS AND MORE WORDS.
AutoWerks refunded my money shortly after - and the site is updated with pre-orders only. Much Better :thumbup: - Hopefully these Lights will come soon for all the fanatics that have waited so long.
deafboy
05-11-2006, 01:38 AM
I sure hope so :(
Josh@AutoWerks
05-12-2006, 12:21 PM
UPDATE
Eagle Eyes is currently sending over 20 US Spec kits (5 of each different model). These will be used for final testing. Eagle Eyes claims that they are all working perfectly, but we are not taking any chances and will be testing them extensively.
The results of this test will determine our release date. If everything goes as planned, Eagle Eyes will release the product ASAP.
I'll keep you posted.
foodidoo
05-12-2006, 03:49 PM
UPDATE
Eagle Eyes is currently sending over 20 US Spec kits (5 of each different model). These will be used for final testing. Eagle Eyes claims that they are all working perfectly, but we are not taking any chances and will be testing them extensively.
The results of this test will determine our release date. If everything goes as planned, Eagle Eyes will release the product ASAP.
I'll keep you posted.
Ok so I have remained patient for the longest and kept my cool about the situation and understand that nothing could be done. So for my patience I believe I should be one of the testers so it's ok to ship mine to me asap. Yeah like that is going to happen.
foodidoo
05-12-2006, 04:09 PM
UPDATE
Eagle Eyes is currently sending over 20 US Spec kits (5 of each different model). These will be used for final testing. Eagle Eyes claims that they are all working perfectly, but we are not taking any chances and will be testing them extensively.
The results of this test will determine our release date. If everything goes as planned, Eagle Eyes will release the product ASAP.
I'll keep you posted.
Ok so I have remained patient for the longest and kept my cool about the situation and understand that nothing could be done. So for my patience I believe I should be one of the testers so it's ok to ship mine to me asap. Yeah like that is going to happen.
minsoox1983
05-12-2006, 04:27 PM
yes ! also, please make sure they work perfect even for '01 coupe models without needing to have a new lcm module.
Thanks,
-minsoo.
UPDATE
Eagle Eyes is currently sending over 20 US Spec kits (5 of each different model). These will be used for final testing. Eagle Eyes claims that they are all working perfectly, but we are not taking any chances and will be testing them extensively.
The results of this test will determine our release date. If everything goes as planned, Eagle Eyes will release the product ASAP.
I'll keep you posted.
UPDATE
Eagle Eyes is currently sending over 20 US Spec kits (5 of each different model). These will be used for final testing. Eagle Eyes claims that they are all working perfectly, but we are not taking any chances and will be testing them extensively.
I'll keep you posted.
Just as I predicted on 4-16-2006
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4230670&postcount=479
Eagle Eyes is launching various models to combat this complicated LCM issue
PREDICTION:
Eagle Eyes will release numerous versions of the LED tailights for our bimmer (ie....pre-facelift, post facelift, etc).
Eagle eyes will release their current LED lights. However, it will only be compat with either post or facelift sedans but not both.
Nevertheless, I am proud of Autowerks for updating its customer. I am happy that there is finally PROGRESS. +1 for autowerks (updating/releasing news) and +1 for Eagle Eyes for their progress.
Nuori
05-12-2006, 05:07 PM
Wow. Good to read about the progress.
Adenosinebambam
05-12-2006, 06:58 PM
Progress is very good, I wouldn't mind being a tester.. even though I am sure people have had preorders before mine of 1/27/06..
chandz
05-12-2006, 10:45 PM
Learning from the past experiences, I suggest not to get your hopes too high. But do cross your fingers, though.
deafboy
05-12-2006, 11:35 PM
good to hear.
Im not getting my hopes up too high but its good to know. either way I doubt I'll get them before I leave for the summer.
:cry:
Josh@AutoWerks
05-13-2006, 02:36 AM
We haven't finalized the testing process yet, but there are some tough questions we need answered. Eagle Eyes tried to test the units on "US Spec" cars they had access to in Taiwan but that did not solve all of the problem. The units really needed to be tested here on a variety of cars which is what is going to happen now.
We may need some help with test cars, but that will likely be limited to cars in the San Diego and Sacramento areas.
We really thought the DOT certification was going to be the tough part, but that basically went fairly smoothly. The problem is the damn lights just do not work like they are supposed to in certain situations. They do look very cool though - amazingly bright.
Stay posted.
Custom3
05-13-2006, 06:52 PM
We really thought the DOT certification was going to be the tough part, but that basically went fairly smoothly. The problem is the damn lights just do not work like they are supposed to in certain situations.
Stay posted.
How can they be DOT certified and still have problems? :hmm:
To be honest with you the only reason why I havent cancelled my order is because of the Free shipping you offered and the Free xenon fog bulbs...Im just waiting for my leds and that would be that last time I would conduct any business with your site...its not your fault the leds arent out yet...but I feel you been d*cking us around with DELAY excuses....I would rather you admit you have no clue as to whats going on over there at Eagles Eyes...
Were testing the lights now :blah: :blah:
(2 weeks later)
We found a glitch so now theres another 3 month delay :blah: :blah:
We need some videos of the testings your doing with these tailights....then will know you guys arent messing with our heads again.:thumbup:
freshprince2421
05-13-2006, 07:19 PM
I am in San Diego if you need an 01 coupe :)
tngy2k
05-13-2006, 08:13 PM
I'm in San Diego too if you need to test it on a 2000 couple.
deafboy
05-14-2006, 12:07 AM
Im in washington 00 coupe
:( I know.... "no"
Adenosinebambam
05-14-2006, 09:41 AM
haha MA with a 00 sedan... that is a NO..
How can they be DOT certified and still have problems? :hmm:
Well said.
+1 for Autowerks for making an honest attempt to help bring this product ot the market.
-1 for eagle eyes and Jim Powell. As I stated before, the "DOT certification" is nothing more than a smoke screen to buy more time to resolve the LCM issue.
Josh@AutoWerks
05-15-2006, 12:45 AM
Let me clarify something regarding DOT certification. Believe it or not, DOT has nothing to do with whether it actually works in the model of car you designed it for. The DOT certification process looks at the functional design of the brake light and makes sure it meets certain standards. For example, are the brake lights red, is there side visibility of the turn signal indicator, etc.
DOT does not test the unit in all the cars to see if a fault code warning light goes off - they don't care. Therefore, the lights are DOT certified (not simply DOT spec) but they have a couple of glitches that need to be fixed.
At the end of the day, all we can do is try to keep each of you informed, even if it isn't always good news. I hope, based on our reputation, that you trust us enough to know that we would never play games with this. Why would we possibly want to delay this item more than one day longer than we have too?
We will keep updating you as we get the final bugs worked out.
Thanks for your patience.
chandz
05-15-2006, 05:06 AM
I thought the testing process was over months ago (or last year, I think) :dunno: hence the U.S Spec? Now it looks like you are trying to put the so-called Euro spec on U.S cars. If that's the case, just a reminder - it has been done last year by another distributor.
Let me clarify something regarding DOT certification. Believe it or not, DOT has nothing to do with whether it actually works in the model of car you designed it for. The DOT certification process looks at the functional design of the brake light and makes sure it meets certain standards. For example, are the brake lights red, is there side visibility of the turn signal indicator, etc.
DOT does not test the unit in all the cars to see if a fault code warning light goes off - they don't care. Therefore, the lights are DOT certified (not simply DOT spec) but they have a couple of glitches that need to be fixed.
At the end of the day, all we can do is try to keep each of you informed, even if it isn't always good news. I hope, based on our reputation, that you trust us enough to know that we would never play games with this. Why would we possibly want to delay this item more than one day longer than we have too?
We will keep updating you as we get the final bugs worked out.
Thanks for your patience.
so wait. I am confuse. so if DOT wasn't that big of a fuss then why was there such a big commotion about the DOT Cert? You and Jim Powell keep on stating the IMPORTANCE and SAFETY factors of owning a DOT Cert tail light. Heck, you even said "buy from us because ours will be DOT Cert. Other vendors are not selling DOT cert (stree illegal items)"
Heck, give me a few dollars and within 2 minutes will be able to tell you if your tail lights are Red and if the turn signal is visible.
DarXide
05-15-2006, 08:16 AM
How can they be DOT certified and still have problems? :hmm:
To be honest with you the only reason why I havent cancelled my order is because of the Free shipping you offered and the Free xenon fog bulbs...Im just waiting for my leds and that would be that last time I would conduct any business with your site...its not your fault the leds arent out yet...but I feel you been d*cking us around with DELAY excuses....I would rather you admit you have no clue as to whats going on over there at Eagles Eyes...
Were testing the lights now :blah: :blah:
(2 weeks later)
We found a glitch so now theres another 3 month delay :blah: :blah:
We need some videos of the testings your doing with these tailights....then will know you guys arent messing with our heads again.:thumbup:
Why are you complaining?:dunno: You are getting free bulbs and shipping and your credit card doesnt get charged until the LED's are shipped..
Your pre-order is guaranteeing your position on the waiting list.
Custom3
05-15-2006, 02:39 PM
Why are you complaining?:dunno: You are getting free bulbs and shipping and your credit card doesnt get charged until the LED's are shipped..
Your pre-order is guaranteeing your position on the waiting list.
Why Am I complaining??...Well if you must know....
I ordered these on June of 2005....Since day 1 I been told The lights are coming
soon...Its about to be a year.
your credit card doesnt get charged until the LED's are shipped..
When I ordered in June my credit card did get charged...Full amount.....After giving them a call they refunded my money...Shouldnt have been charged in the first place.
The only people who understand were im coming from are those who ordered the lights some time last year...
deafboy
05-15-2006, 11:16 PM
sweet.... :(
snowcatxx87
05-15-2006, 11:29 PM
Hey, you want your tails?
www.ebay.com
Chris@AutoWerks
05-16-2006, 10:45 AM
Hey, you want your tails?
www.ebay.com
You're 3/3.
lumenman
05-19-2006, 07:55 AM
[QUOTE=Josh@AutoWerks]Ok guys, here are pictures of what all the available trunk lights look like. I have one sedan lens next to the actual LED light but not the other yet. That one is coming soon.
Coupe and Sedan trunk lights are NOT interchangeable. Sorry.
<img src="http://www.autowerks.com/xcart/product_image.php?imageid=2251"><img src="http://www.autowerks.com/xcart/product_image.php?imageid=2252">
Hey guys, I found this type 1 for coupe and convertible on ebay
Does anyone know it will match with red color of the Eagle Eyes LED Tail perfectly?
AlBoston
05-19-2006, 08:39 AM
ahhh the saga continues. Why are there so many issues with this? Good thing BMW doesn't use them as a supplier for their taillights. People would be recieving cars without taillights and rainchecks. What a freakin joke.
Chris@AutoWerks
05-19-2006, 10:12 AM
ahhh the saga continues. Why are there so many issues with this? Good thing BMW doesn't use them as a supplier for their taillights. People would be recieving cars without taillights and rainchecks. What a freakin joke.
Do you have an order number? If so, PM it me to me and I'll check it out.
Toast
05-19-2006, 05:17 PM
Chris please check PM, thanks. :)
GBond007
05-25-2006, 11:29 AM
Update?
Custom3
05-26-2006, 09:30 PM
:tsk:
deafboy
05-27-2006, 04:52 AM
haha, im so glad I paid the extra for shipping. Good thing I'll be gone when they do arrive...
that is, if they are sent out before the fall
russ330
05-27-2006, 09:33 AM
haha, im so glad I paid the extra for shipping. Good thing I'll be gone when they do arrive...
that is, if they are sent out before the fall
Death by old age? You've probably only got 50-60-70 years left. :lmao:
thesethoughtsru
05-27-2006, 03:11 PM
[QUOTE=Josh@AutoWerks]Ok guys, here are pictures of what all the available trunk lights look like. I have one sedan lens next to the actual LED light but not the other yet. That one is coming soon.
Coupe and Sedan trunk lights are NOT interchangeable. Sorry.
<img src="http://www.autowerks.com/xcart/product_image.php?imageid=2251"><img src="http://www.autowerks.com/xcart/product_image.php?imageid=2252">
Hey guys, I found this type 1 for coupe and convertible on ebay
Does anyone know it will match with red color of the Eagle Eyes LED Tail perfectly?
eagle eyes LEDs match the OEM red color. as long as you are buying OEM trunk lights the red will be just about a perfect match, so those ebay ones are probably aftermarket, i dunno, but if they are OEM they you'er good to go!
deafboy
05-27-2006, 08:07 PM
Death by old age? You've probably only got 50-60-70 years left. :lmao:
well at this rate..... :yikes:
haha
Nuori
05-28-2006, 05:01 PM
"I wanted to provide everyone an update on these tail lights.
The ones you are purchasing now are strictly Euro lights and as you have probably noticed, they actually work on your cars with some minimal changes (resistors, jumpers, etc.) and all of them require no flashing of the LCM/ECU.
We have been in contact with Eagle Eyes this last week and the update they gave us is this:
1) Full DOT compatibility (including changes to the actual tail light assemblies) will be completely finished probably by end of this summer.
2) The lights you currently have WILL be changed - but there is no indication if the changes are better or worse as one of the main reasons these failed the first DOT tests in April was entirely for insufficient outer reflectors. Since Eagle Eyes is having to redo the reflector design, they MAY be redoing the light circuit board (but my estimation is this is very unlikely).
3) All units are the same - whether EURO or US - at this time. There is no difference unless and until they complete DOT testing. The comments made by the leading importer (over 15 containers a month) and the leading sales representative are that the lights have never been changed except now when they are doing the DOT testing. Additionally, the lights that are DOT tested and pass will probably be the same style as sold to the EURO countries and they have no intention of producing two different models.
4) DEPO's version of the LED tails is a more conventional looking LED that has the center section as white/crystal and will be available in 3-4 weeks on our next shipment. We will expect pricing for them to be $279 introductory + shipping and will be running a group buy for them at that price.
5) The DEPO version of the LED COUPE tails will be available for $315 in a few weeks. However, they WILL at this time require a secondary controller (which was designed by our engineer) and will cost an additional $40 (Unless you wish to design your own, in which case the parts might cost you $10-15). The $40 cost represents a fully tested, working, produced external ballast for the LED tails."
Is there truth to this? Anyone confirm?
I believe if they did pass DOT they should have been on the market by now.
Custom3
05-30-2006, 04:04 PM
^^^^
by the end of the summer?? :thumbdwn:
Someone shed some light into that post....
DarXide
05-30-2006, 11:08 PM
Why Am I complaining??...Well if you must know....
I ordered these on June of 2005....Since day 1 I been told The lights are coming
soon...Its about to be a year.
When I ordered in June my credit card did get charged...Full amount.....After giving them a call they refunded my money...Shouldnt have been charged in the first place.
The only people who understand were im coming from are those who ordered the lights some time last year...
Its not Autowerks fault that Eagle Eyes wont release them. I think they handled the situation as professional as humanly possible.
And believe me I've been on this before you even placed your order.. I'm the one that brought the news before Autowerks.
Not only Autowerks is doing their best to keep you updated but also give you free shipping and lights to keep you happy.
You have to understand that they are NOT the factory.
deafboy
05-31-2006, 04:32 AM
As long as they look sick, work, and flush I have no problem waiting. But if these dont turn out great I'll be pissed.
I dont mind the wait, just do it right.
Black&Tan
05-31-2006, 04:23 PM
I just got my Eagle Eyes LED tail lamps in the mail today...ordered them on Saturday from Amazon. I'm going to install them right now...will let you know how they look.
deafboy
06-01-2006, 04:33 AM
:wtf:
dirsh
06-01-2006, 06:22 PM
those lights on amazon are the same ones on ebay
Custom3
06-03-2006, 06:26 PM
I just got my Eagle Eyes LED tail lamps in the mail today...ordered them on Saturday from Amazon. I'm going to install them right now...will let you know how they look.
:bawling:
Nuori
06-04-2006, 05:03 AM
I just got my Eagle Eyes LED tail lamps in the mail today...ordered them on Saturday from Amazon. I'm going to install them right now...will let you know how they look.
Install should only take you 10 minutes max. :P
GBond007
06-09-2006, 09:49 AM
Update?
Custom3
06-10-2006, 06:28 PM
:lurking:
auburnu008
06-10-2006, 06:41 PM
Update?
Yea, according to the title they arrived in December! Sweet! I am late to the party, where are all the pics??? :rofl: :clap: :lmao:
Adenosinebambam
06-11-2006, 07:23 AM
I have e-mailed Autowerks x 2 to cancel my pre-order in favor of mods that will ship.. well now. I log onto autowerkes and ti still has my order and pending.. what gives?
Custom3
06-11-2006, 11:31 AM
I have e-mailed Autowerks x 2 to cancel my pre-order in favor of mods that will ship.. well now. I log onto autowerkes and ti still has my order and pending.. what gives?
Did you get a reply back from them?....there usually pretty good when it comes to replieing back to there customers....give them a call.
rudetrini
06-11-2006, 06:05 PM
i've been dying to buy LED tails for my 2001 coupe. What do you guys think of these ones?? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LED-Tail-Lights-BMW-E46-3-2D-Coupe-PreFacelift-98-02_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33716QQitemZ8072452741QQrdZ1
minsoox1983
06-12-2006, 04:17 AM
i think you still need to get a new LCM unit.
the pics look good but still ,,, i don't know ,,
Chris@AutoWerks
06-12-2006, 11:43 AM
I have e-mailed Autowerks x 2 to cancel my pre-order in favor of mods that will ship.. well now. I log onto autowerkes and ti still has my order and pending.. what gives?
I apologize we can't accept emails as a form of cancellation, please give us a call at 800-221-2262 to cancel.
///MLM
06-12-2006, 11:48 AM
i've been dying to buy LED tails for my 2001 coupe. What do you guys think of these ones?? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LED-Tail-Lights-BMW-E46-3-2D-Coupe-PreFacelift-98-02_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33716QQitemZ8072452741QQrdZ1
Buy OEM ones...you won't regret it...:thumbup:
minsoox1983
06-12-2006, 09:36 PM
so,, this isn't going to happen i guess ?
BimmaBwoy
06-13-2006, 07:55 AM
not this summer.. lol.... get a set of clears and wait it out..(that's what I did)...
My 2c: I think that this product will be pushed back soo far that no one will have an E46 when they actually come out. We would all be rocking E90's or something close to it but not an E46 (lol)...
Custom3
06-16-2006, 08:37 PM
damn still left in the dark....both the seller and buyer :(
Custom3
06-25-2006, 12:15 PM
:hmm:
Custom3
06-26-2006, 04:14 PM
Seems like people stop making noise on this thread...has everyone lost hope??...its only been a year....come on guys
///ACS330Ci
06-26-2006, 08:13 PM
Nope, I just figured they'll let us know when, or if, they ever are available. No sense in bugging the crap outta the guy since it's really out of his control.
BimmaBwoy
06-27-2006, 11:56 AM
^^^ I definately agree
Custom3
07-13-2006, 09:27 PM
wow...amazing...the lack of information
3bmws&counting
07-18-2006, 12:11 AM
Ridiculous is more the word. I am always amused when I read the first posting, and am curious about the definition of "arrived." I have given up hope a long time ago and check this thread out every few weeks to see what you suckers are up to. Savor the anticipation...
-3BNC
deafboy
07-21-2006, 09:06 PM
I'm starting to laugh...by the time they really do "arrive" the credit card I used to pay for em will have expired. Come on now...haha
Custom3
07-22-2006, 05:43 PM
I just love how they dont even bother to keep us updated....telling us that theres no update on there behave is still a update for us.....3 months with no updates...
thesethoughtsru
07-23-2006, 03:02 AM
SIMPLE SOLUTION....
Sedans - buy from Ebay
Coupes - buy from Dealer OEM parts OR if you must, also go to ebay
/END THREAD
323iT
07-23-2006, 06:35 PM
yea LED isnt that great anyways
i mean look at BMW
they deliberately not put LED on their sedens because all the competition has them. who cares? so what if they're safer and never burn out? just because its the industry standard, doesnt mean bmw has to put it on their car.
guess who's not buying a bmw as his next car ;)
deafboy
07-23-2006, 08:57 PM
^
ban?
haha.
I was just wondering how I go about cancelling my order? I decided to screw the wait and just pay the little extra for OEM.
Chris, would you be the guy to go to do that?
ImolaZHPDom
07-23-2006, 09:51 PM
SIMPLE SOLUTION....
Sedans - buy from Ebay
Coupes - buy from Dealer OEM parts OR if you must, also go to ebay
/END THREAD
Well put. Ebay all the way people. Even with the very minor issues with the ebay version (missing turn signal led and possible need to put in a warning light bypass resistor) it's just a no brainer. You guys that keep talking about waiting for the "real deal" are just gonna keep being disappointed. Virtually everyone buying ebay versions loves them so just DO IT ALREADY! LOL.
I second the /End Thread
deafboy
07-23-2006, 10:02 PM
^
Missing turn signal LED?!?!
no rear turn signal?
jrlael
07-24-2006, 02:59 PM
I talked to Chris @ autowerks last week. He seem pretty confident based on his latest conversation with Eagle Eyes (couple of weeks ago) that they will have the LEDs within another month. Yeah, I have heard it before - but hopefully it comes true - this time! I too am tired of waiting. :blah:
Custom3
07-24-2006, 03:05 PM
I talked to Chris @ autowerks last week. He seem pretty confident based on his latest conversation with Eagle Eyes (couple of weeks ago) that they will have the LEDs within another month. Yeah, I have heard it before - but hopefully it comes true - this time! I too am tired of waiting. :blah:
:bs:
tdevil
07-24-2006, 03:50 PM
didnt see any good ones on ebay. i was hoping for red white red with ALL LEDS!
ImolaZHPDom
07-26-2006, 09:41 AM
^
Missing turn signal LED?!?!
no rear turn signal?
There is one led missing from the turn signal section. It is because they had to place the mount for the top of the light.
It's hardly noticable.
tolik412
07-26-2006, 07:48 PM
do you have any sets for the e46 cabrio?
UnBreakable
07-26-2006, 08:12 PM
yeah, missing LED ..
189322
I dont know how close to OEM is the fitment though.. :hmm:
deutschmarque
07-28-2006, 10:34 PM
Help me understand. Since sedans have the red white red pattern, how would the led white red work in regards to wiring. Is one of the connection in the back not connected?
chandz
07-29-2006, 12:03 AM
It doesn't matter. You are switching the whole tail light assembly. The tailight is connected only with single connector consisting different wires (green, brown, etc.) into one. Think it as this way...Belkin's power surge connector is the tail light. One socket from the wall to power some/all your electrical appliances. It's just you are switching from 3 to 2 outlets. But, of course it's not simple as that. LED tail light is entirely different than halogen bulbs. They're soldered and organized on a circuit board. So, you're actually switching from 3 outlet to 1.
GBond007
08-07-2006, 11:58 AM
Update? Anyone..........update? :pfft:
4ngie
08-11-2006, 07:41 PM
Okay, for the guys who have bought the Ebay LED's: Matt ijust installed mine and he's having a problem with the front blinkers blinking fast now. (I haven't read all of the posts, so take it easy on me). Anybody else have this issue and if so, what's the cure for it? TIA
ImolaZHPDom
08-12-2006, 11:22 AM
Okay, for the guys who have bought the Ebay LED's: Matt ijust installed mine and he's having a problem with the front blinkers blinking fast now. (I haven't read all of the posts, so take it easy on me). Anybody else have this issue and if so, what's the cure for it? TIA
Odd. I don't recall reading anything yet about the tails affecting the front lights. This may be a new glitch. Maybe the LCM will need reflashed to fix this one. Keep us updated.
4 more months and this "LED debale" will reach its 2 yr birthday. 2 yrs with nothing but empty promises.
Custom3
08-12-2006, 05:56 PM
:(
4 more months and this "LED debale" will reach its 2 yr birthday. 2 yrs with nothing but empty promises.
wilper
08-12-2006, 06:13 PM
can someone give me a quick down-n-dirty answer? i tried looking thru the 33 pages here ( anyway...got ebay led tails from hobbyasia for e46 sedan. everything installed, wires and harnesses are good, resistors appear fine.
i get lights-out on either my left or right or both and sometimes it clears...its real sporatic and i've rechecked everything twice. Is there a solution? help! tks..
dirsh
08-12-2006, 07:20 PM
why are you asking technical questions in a sponsors thread?
wilper
08-12-2006, 08:28 PM
why are you asking technical questions in a sponsors thread?
topic related duh
let me guess... if i posted on tech help you would be the type of person to say "theres related topics use search" since you obviously have the answers. tks for the help eh guy..
A sarcastic person has a superiority complex that can be cured only by the honesty of humility.
bluecougar
08-13-2006, 02:01 AM
topic related duh
let me guess... if i posted on tech help you would be the type of person to say "theres related topics use search" since you obviously have the answers. tks for the help eh guy..
A sarcastic person has a superiority complex that can be cured only by the honesty of humility.
you'll get more answers in the lighting forum
FRANCO
08-13-2006, 02:20 AM
Odd. I don't recall reading anything yet about the tails affecting the front lights. This may be a new glitch. Maybe the LCM will need reflashed to fix this one. Keep us updated.
it happens when there's something wrong with any of your blinkers (front and rear)...whicher side the problem is on (like busted bulb) the blinkers will blink like a ricers car, really fast until the problem is fixed.....
ImolaZHPDom
08-13-2006, 06:56 AM
it happens when there's something wrong with any of your blinkers (front and rear)...whicher side the problem is on (like busted bulb) the blinkers will blink like a ricers car, really fast until the problem is fixed.....
Yeah, I know that (that's turn signal 101 lol). From his post I gathered that when he plugged his tail lights in it makes the front bulbs flash fast not indicating they are out but that the system is getting shorted or something.
PhillyM5
08-13-2006, 10:19 AM
Angie :> Who did you buy it off? What was his eBay user ID? A friend of mine had purchased a set and used wire taps to fix it.
Custom3
08-17-2006, 09:31 PM
any updates?!?...even telling us theres no update is still a update...come on AutoWerks....show the customers you care...at least a little bit.
Josh@AutoWerks
08-18-2006, 08:15 AM
hey everyone...:hi:
We are still waiting on the manufacturer to release the lights to the market. As soon as we receive a REAL approxomite date, we will inform you right away.
Custom3
08-18-2006, 07:18 PM
hey everyone...:hi:
We are still waiting on the manufacturer to release the lights to the market. As soon as we receive a REAL approxomite date, we will inform you right away.
Bad news as usual but thank you for the update :thumbsup:
///MACHINE
08-19-2006, 01:34 AM
wonder if they will come out with Red/white/red combo in LED, that would be sick!
ImolaZHPDom
08-19-2006, 10:03 PM
wonder if they will come out with Red/white/red combo in LED, that would be sick!
Yes, good news! They are in stock and have arrived! Unfortunately they won't be shipping until May of 2008 though. Place your pre-order now!
:excited: :excited:
Toast
08-19-2006, 11:39 PM
We all know you got your tails from ebay. Good for you. But is it really necessary to add salt to the wound? :tsk:
Yes, good news! They are in stock and have arrived! Unfortunately they won't be shipping until May of 2008 though. Place your pre-order now!
:excited: :excited:
ImolaZHPDom
08-20-2006, 08:32 AM
We all know you got your tails from ebay. Good for you. But is it really necessary to add salt to the wound? :tsk:
Hehe. Sorry man, it just seemed too funny. I couldn't resist:thumbsup: . I really do feel bad for you guys. Hang in there though. When these things do finally ship I'm sure it will be worth the wait.
P.S. Go ebay FTW!
ecoE46
08-23-2006, 04:39 PM
I can't believe I just read all 33 pages thinking that in the end there would be photos and great reviews about these LED tails! Let me rephrase that, I thought when reading page 8 or so that around page 19 things would have panned out for everyone involved.
I really don't believe this. I'm an Industrial Designer, and I know that you NEVER release a sales deadline when you know there will be testing, Q.C. issues, shipping time factored in, etc until you know for damn sure that it is on the water. Now though with cargo containers you have Homeland Security holding parts in customs until they find the time to inspect them and give them the thumbs up.
That being said, it could be a while until these are on your cars. I have seen the OEM LEDs around here. They look great! So just sit back and wait.
phatmustang73
08-24-2006, 02:29 AM
I think by the time they release the LED taillights, most of us will have moved on to another car by then.:cry:
BimmaBwoy
08-24-2006, 08:13 AM
^^funny you said that b/c I said the same thing half way thru this thread.
Custom3
08-24-2006, 08:39 PM
I think by the time they release the LED taillights, most of us will have moved on to another car by then.:cry:
yeah it kind of sucks....I get sick when i see a f*cking 98 honda civic with some led tailights and here im still waiting for mines...Its like if a damn 98 civic can have leds why cant i ??:bawling: ..the best also is those damn 18 wheelers with all there led tailights...makes me want to snatch them off and put them on my car :(
BimmaBwoy
08-25-2006, 10:34 AM
^^^ could you imagine truck LED lights on your E46 (LMAO)... i understand your frustration i just found your comment hilarious.
BreakMyWallet
08-25-2006, 02:56 PM
Okay, for the guys who have bought the Ebay LED's: Matt ijust installed mine and he's having a problem with the front blinkers blinking fast now. (I haven't read all of the posts, so take it easy on me). Anybody else have this issue and if so, what's the cure for it? TIA
you probably need resistors.. no?
BreakMyWallet
08-25-2006, 02:58 PM
mods delete this thread.. it just brings everyone down :(
BreakMyWallet
08-25-2006, 02:58 PM
wonder if they will come out with Red/white/red combo in LED, that would be sick!
ebay has those
deafboy
09-04-2006, 01:23 AM
CAN I GET MY CONFIRMATION YET! I want to order my OEM ones but autowerks isnt giving me a confirmation that my order has been cancelled.
All I want is a confirmation!!!
Custom3
09-05-2006, 11:57 AM
^ I hope i dont have a issue with them if try to cancel my order. :(
Custom3
09-18-2006, 06:10 PM
R.I.P Thread.......:bawling:
Romey46
10-09-2006, 02:22 AM
are they still selling these leds and is there any problems with i should know cuz im intrested in buying these
ecoE46
10-21-2006, 02:35 PM
Are these still on hold?
I haven't been on the forum in about 2 months.
Custom3
10-21-2006, 08:10 PM
yeah...for over a year they been on hold..still:tsk:
Are these still on hold?
I haven't been on the forum in about 2 months.
handmemyarms
10-21-2006, 08:38 PM
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=412340
i hope anyone planning to buy LED's Joins the group buy in the link i just posted and backs out of the autowerks deal
its $290 for the LED's resistors no extra charge
and its only $40 for the added trunk lights
total: $330!!!!!
compared to autowerks... $350 for LED's 100 more for matching trunk lights, theres $450 for a product theyve been letting people down for months and months and months and months
Im tired of autowerks.com letting people down, including myself, great thread title by the way :jack:
hey chris, still waiting on those damn painted reflectors, its been almost 3 months now and you havent responded to my PM's
Iron Mike T
10-25-2006, 09:27 PM
In case anyone is curious - I just recieved an e-mail saying
We're still waiting on the LEDs to come in from the manufacturer. They're currently in the testing process and hopefully within a month's time we'll have these in our hands.
Thanks,
AutoWerks.com
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
dirsh
10-25-2006, 11:45 PM
omfg just let this thread die
Blitzkrieg
11-02-2006, 02:16 AM
I'm sorry that I can't comply to lettin this thread die... I'm probably one of many people that would want a piece of this autowerks led taillight action but isn't too active on the forums and what not... but isn't it a bit ridiculous if they claim it has arrived or will be here "soon" when in fact it still has to go thru unpredictable process of testing and what not before it reaches the customers' hands.. So, technically, it won't arrive soon and technically, they aren't quite sure it will be here, am i correct?? Perhaps we could get a deadline or details on the testing process, perhaps a timline or something? i suppose all this could drive hype and demand.. and I understand autowerks just means well for the customers... but damn, waiting sucks, lol, i hope buying and waitinf for this item as a christmas present to myself will be timely =)
Custom3
12-02-2006, 04:18 PM
i have had theys tailights in backorder now for over a year in a half...im canceling my order not cause of the long wait but because of the lack of information they have kept from there customers...they dont come on here and say anything anymore...they have lost me as a future customer and any one else i know...i will not recommend anyone else to there site from now on..i have given up...i will order my tailights from another sponsor on this site.
Lexie330ci
12-02-2006, 07:16 PM
Yea this is ridiculous...
ImolaZHPDom
12-02-2006, 08:59 PM
I'm sorry that I can't comply to lettin this thread die... I'm probably one of many people that would want a piece of this autowerks led taillight action but isn't too active on the forums and what not... but isn't it a bit ridiculous if they claim it has arrived or will be here "soon" when in fact it still has to go thru unpredictable process of testing and what not before it reaches the customers' hands.. So, technically, it won't arrive soon and technically, they aren't quite sure it will be here, am i correct?? Perhaps we could get a deadline or details on the testing process, perhaps a timline or something? i suppose all this could drive hype and demand.. and I understand autowerks just means well for the customers... but damn, waiting sucks, lol, i hope buying and waitinf for this item as a christmas present to myself will be timely =)
Seriously...you guys just need to go ebay. I have had my LEDs since May and they are perfect. I definately wouldn't hope for them by X-mas. They have been having problems getting them for over a year! You will probably sell your E46 by the time they come out..hahah
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