Technik @Bimmerfest

[omes]

Hey Guys,

Was there anything interesting happen' with any of the "Technik" Cars at Bimmerfest.

Would love to see some pics!

Thanks all

OG Boost Fanatic.:)

[HighBoostin330]

Hey Guys,

Was there anything interesting happen' with any of the "Technik" Cars at Bimmerfest.

Would love to see some pics!

Thanks all

OG Boost Fanatic.:)

Hey Omar,

Nothing new at Technik. Zolti brought the Turbo'ed M3 with a base map tune, not the final tune. The other cars where back at the workshop. Only Zolti and Mike from Technik was there at Bimmerfest with no sleep - just like many other people there. :rofl: Nice meeting you again Zolti! Nice meeting you Mike for the first time. :)

[Unveiled]

The turbocharged M3 was, by far, my favorite vehicle. That turbo set-up is clean, and shows much potential.

[Solid]

did you guys see it run? they show any perliminary dynos?

[HighBoostin330]

did you guys see it run? they show any perliminary dynos?

Nothing yet. Samir just got a base map done for the M3. They are in the process of testing other hardware equipment for the M3. On a brighter note, the ZHP tuning is done all the way up to Stage III, I think. :)

[samir@technik]

Hey Guys,

Was there anything interesting happen' with any of the "Technik" Cars at Bimmerfest.

Would love to see some pics!

Thanks all

OG Boost Fanatic.:)

Nothing new this year, so we didn't have a booth...didn't want to bring up the "same 'ol cars". But the Turbo M3 was displayed with HPF. If BF had been in late April or May, we probably would have shown the E90 we're working on (I'm really looking forward to unveiling this car), but we didn't have enough time to prepare since the show was earlier this year. But next year will be better, since we're all setup at our new place, got new people coming in and new projects in the pipe. I guess you could say we've been in somewhat of a self-imposed quiet period the past few months as we transition into the next phase of our company's development...the calm before the storm. :shhh:
:evil:

For pics of the M, see this link:
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4203700&postcount=134

[samir@technik]

did you guys see it run? they show any perliminary dynos?

I'll be making a vid tonight of the M3, just part throttle stuff as the WOT maps are not yet done, but at least you'll be able to hear what a turbo'd S54 sounds like. It's a cross between a lopey RB26 and 2JZ-GTE. I'll also have a vid of the ZHP, finally got this thing dialed in and it's unreal how the character of the car has changed, for the better. I think you'll be thoroughly impressed with the new software.

[HighBoostin330]

Still waiting for the ZHP software write-up review. :P So I assume, the ZHP is now more powerful than the non-ZHP 330s?

[GarrettF]

perhaps, rememebr there is a non-zhp 330 making 350 rwhp on stock internals with the tm-12 unit, id be suprised if anyone breaks that on stock internals

[samir@technik]

Still waiting for the ZHP software write-up review. :P So I assume, the ZHP is now more powerful than the non-ZHP 330s?

Not really, in fact, the ZHP put down less power stock than it's MS43 counterpart, but it did end up making about the same power at 8psi, roughly 300WHP (had to bump the redline to 7040 in order to get it there). Torque is unfortunately not as high, this is simply the nature of MS45 since it was designed to run as a LEAN BURN EMS for emissions purposes. The shape of the AFR is not as pretty as MS43's flatline 12, but we did get it down into the 12s nonetheless, as well as eliminate the dip.

[GBX330ci]

If BF had been in late April or May, we probably would have shown the E90 we're working on (I'm really looking forward to unveiling this car), but we

I want to hear about this e90 :drool: Can you tell us a little?

[samir@technik]

I should have some teasers to post up later this week. It definitely carries on the tradition of the black E46 330ii. Currently, the engine has been fitted with our Stage 2 power kit (intake/headers/ecu). Boost will come a little bit later.

:evil:

[2003330i]

Not really, in fact, the ZHP put down less power stock than it's MS43 counterpart, but it did end up making about the same power at 8psi, roughly 300WHP (had to bump the redline to 7040 in order to get it there). Torque is unfortunately not as high, this is simply the nature of MS45 since it was designed to run as a LEAN BURN EMS for emissions purposes. The shape of the AFR is not as pretty as MS43's flatline 12, but we did get it down into the 12s nonetheless, as well as eliminate the dip.

when your saying less horse power and torque you are referring to the car being stock. i would have thought that being supercharged that it would have had a little edge over MS43 because of the more aggressive cams. any number on the 9.5 psi

[Jojo@DPE]

the M3 turbo looked very clean with the power to back it up. great seeing you again zolti. sorry you didn't make it out samir.

when i get the time, i need to bring my car in to your new shop for some engine work. this is the year i finally feel it is time to let the magazines shoot it. after all, you only get one chance ... why not make the best of it.

[hammerfang]

damn that is the first turbo s54 i've ever seen and it looks sick :thumbup:

[xxe46xx]

cant wait for that video :)

[ACSC30]

To Technik:
Do you have any updated news for the stage 4 kit?

I have been waiting ><

[samir@technik]

when your saying less horse power and torque you are referring to the car being stock. i would have thought that being supercharged that it would have had a little edge over MS43 because of the more aggressive cams. any number on the 9.5 psi

I've never really seen any ZHP put down 200WHP. They've mostly been in the low 190s, whereas MS43 330s put down 200WHP consistently. It's simply the nature of the ECU. The impression that these cams make more power, is definitely not noticeable in stock form. The dyno proves that. This DME was engineered to meet very strict emissions regulations, which always sacrifices power. However, that being said, the car still makes what it's MS43 brethren make in terms of boost WHP, but not WTQ...about 8-10 less ft.lbs.

Stock MS43 330 vs. Stock MS45 330 ZHP (note the AFRs, MS45 being more lean on top, 13.3 vs 12.1...this is "lean burn"):

<img src="http://www.technikpower.com/dyno/sc/330_ms45_vs_ms43_stock_dyno.gif">

Under boost, we've been able to get it to drop down correctly into the 12s. We are now roadtesting it to ensure the adaptations stay within proper range, anything over +/- 3% is not acceptable with this DME.

[samir@technik]

when i get the time, i need to bring my car in to your new shop for some engine work.

Sounds good Jojo. Send me an email and we'll discuss.

[samir@technik]

To Technik:
Do you have any updated news for the stage 4 kit?

I have been waiting ><

The motor is ready to accept boost, we're just deciding on the type of hardware to use in terms of FI. Don't worry, this is not on hold by any means. :thumbup:

[2003330i]

I've never really seen any ZHP put down 200WHP. They've mostly been in the low 190s, whereas MS43 330s put down 200WHP consistently. It's simply the nature of the ECU. The impression that these cams make more power, is definitely not noticeable in stock form. The dyno proves that. This DME was engineered to meet very strict emissions regulations, which always sacrifices power. However, that being said, the car still makes what it's MS43 brethren make in terms of boost WHP, but not WTQ...about 8-10 less ft.lbs.

Stock MS43 330 vs. Stock MS45 330 ZHP (note the AFRs, MS45 being more lean on top, 13.3 vs 12.1...this is "lean burn"):


Under boost, we've been able to get it to drop down correctly into the 12s. We are now roadtesting it to ensure the adaptations stay within proper range, anything over +/- 3% is not acceptable with this DME.

any dyno's with the zhp supercharged

[samir@technik]

Yes, will post them later on. So far about 290-295WHP and 240-244WTQ @ 8psi. We're finalizing the fuel for the last 1500 RPMs, then I'll have AFRs to post up as well.

[Mo' speed]

Samir,

Will the ZHP kit be CARB certified? Also will you be developing more powerful kits for ZHP? EX., TM-15 S/C , intercooler, and whatever else to acheive WHP of approx 300-320?

[2003330i]

Yes, will post them later on. So far about 290-295WHP and 240-244WTQ @ 8psi. We're finalizing the fuel for the last 1500 RPMs, then I'll have AFRs to post up as well.

that is great news

[2003330i]

Samir,

Will the ZHP kit be CARB certified? Also will you be developing more powerful kits for ZHP? EX., TM-15 S/C , intercooler, and whatever else to acheive WHP of approx 300-320?

reguarding more power the answer is yes. i'm currently waiting for the tm15 with intercooler at 9.5 psi. about how much power i'm guessing prob 10whp more than the tm12.
samir would be able to tell a more accurate figure on how much more power

[samir@technik]

Samir,

Will the ZHP kit be CARB certified?

Yes, all of our E46 CS kits will be undergoing CARB certification shortly now that we have the final DME version programmed (this was what the ARB needed in order to finalize the application).

Also will you be developing more powerful kits for ZHP? EX., TM-15 S/C , intercooler, and whatever else to acheive WHP of approx 300-320?

Yes, once the fueling is finished with the TM12, we'll install the TM15 and increase the boost pressure to roughly 10psi. Should be good for another 10-15WHP. Then we'll add cams and headers to see how much more we can squeeze out of this kit w/o opening up the engine or porting the head.

[2003330i]

Yes, all of our E46 CS kits will be undergoing CARB certification shortly now that we have the final DME version programmed (this was what the ARB needed in order to finalize the application).



Yes, once the fueling is finished with the TM12, we'll install the TM15 and increase the boost pressure to roughly 10psi. Should be good for another 10-15WHP. Then we'll add cams and headers to see how much more we can squeeze out of this kit w/o opening up the engine or porting the head.

you think we haev this in our hands in like 2/3 weeks

[samir@technik]

Very likely.

[2003330i]

Very likely.


nice. how is that intake manifold coming out.

[Mo' speed]

Yes, all of our E46 CS kits will be undergoing CARB certification shortly now that we have the final DME version programmed (this was what the ARB needed in order to finalize the application).



Yes, once the fueling is finished with the TM12, we'll install the TM15 and increase the boost pressure to roughly 10psi. Should be good for another 10-15WHP. Then we'll add cams and headers to see how much more we can squeeze out of this kit w/o opening up the engine or porting the head.

Thanks Samir

[doba_s]

Any SC for e46 M3 ?

[samir@technik]

Yes, our Stage 1 kit for the M3 is still in the works. We've got a couple cars lined up for dyno testing, so the both the turbo and SC will most likely be out around the same time.

[samir@technik]

Here's a vid of the ZHP w/ Stage 1.

http://tinyurl.com/oz5dx

More to come soon.

[samir@technik]

nice. how is that intake manifold coming out.

It came out ok, but we're working on an even better design now, so we've trashed the first proto and will be making a new piece shortly.

[2003330i]

Here's a vid of the ZHP w/ Stage 1.

http://tinyurl.com/oz5dx

More to come soon.

very nice. so we should see the tm15 in a few days if you got your shipment you were waiting for

[TheFallen]

man samir.. I hate how you keep making the non-M E46 cars faster and faster forcing me to have to go FI too hahaha.

I remember you telling me months ago that there's no competition between FI and N/A and that Force Induction is your bread and butter. I finally see what you mean now. I don't think you'll ever stop building faster and faster 3 series that will continue to chase down and stomp all over M3s.

hopefully you and Zolti will work some magic and I'll still stay a hair in front of all these crazy 330's subscribing to this thread! I can't wait until end of April when I get the opportunity to check out the new shop and the new hardware. We'll chit-chat when you're not as swamped with work = )

I love the white M3's re-worked rear fender and that custom trunk lid spoiler. Too bad it's SOO expensive !

:thumbsup:

[samir@technik]

cant wait for that video :)

Here's a really short clip, nothing special right now, but we're getting a new mani w/ turbo from HPF shortly. Once installed, the fun begins.

Vid:
http://tinyurl.com/rj9lg

Sound Clip (keep in mind this is w/ GruppeM + SS Xpipe):
http://tinyurl.com/mv3hj

[Jojo@DPE]

Here's a vid of the ZHP w/ Stage 1.

http://tinyurl.com/oz5dx

More to come soon.

nice vid of the red beast. btw samir, u got mail. thanks.

[Mo' speed]

Hot damn THE DIP is dead.

[GBX330ci]

Great vids. Talk about a teaser in that m3 vid. You wouldn't even show the whole car! Got any more pics of the white M, other than what's been posted?

Also, I see you called your Sc kit the CS kit in the video. What does that stand for. At first i thought it was a typo, but then i remembered your CS30 (Competition Saloon), before BMW made you scrap it.

And, based on the design of the M turbo kit, does it look like it will fit the Z4 M with little to no modification?

Sick work Samir and the rest of the crew!

[samir@technik]

Great vids. Talk about a teaser in that m3 vid. You wouldn't even show the whole car! Got any more pics of the white M, other than what's been posted?

Once the car actually can sustain more boost, then we'll put up better vids. No new pics right now either, because the car is getting new bodywork put on this week. I'll take new pics once the exterior has been updated/completed w/ OE CSL parts.

Also, I see you called your Sc kit the CS kit in the video. What does that stand for. At first i thought it was a typo, but then i remembered your CS30 (Competition Saloon), before BMW made you scrap it.

CS = Centrifugal Supercharger

"SC" by itself is too generic and could mean: TS, PD, etc.

And, based on the design of the M turbo kit, does it look like it will fit the Z4 M with little to no modification?

Sure does look that way :evil:

[GBX330ci]

Sure does look that way :evil:

:drool: that will be sick! Now i've got something to think about! What do you think...a turbo'd m3 or m roadster (Z4)? Damn, or maybe even a new m coupe! Decisions, decisions, decisions... Any thoughts?

[samir@technik]

Let's first see what the kit puts down and how well it performs on the track.

[jtecnik]

:clap: :bow: keep it coming

[2003330i]

:drool: that will be sick! Now i've got something to think about! What do you think...a turbo'd m3 or m roadster (Z4)? Damn, or maybe even a new m coupe! Decisions, decisions, decisions... Any thoughts?

all of them

[bernstem]

Turbo MZ4 coupe...:drool: :drool: :drool:

[2003330i]

any news with the tm15. i samir can you also charge me for the headers

[samir@technik]

TM15 will be going in this coming week. I'll run the headers for you as well. :thumbup:

[2003330i]

TM15 will be going in this coming week. I'll run the headers for you as well. :thumbup:
thank you

[2003330i]

thank you
thanks for the headers. any updates

[samir@technik]

We're finishing MS45.0 now on the Z4, which will be for Stage 1. The ZHP is then going back on the dyno with the TM15. I'm pretty confident next week we'll be done.

[2003330i]

We're finishing MS45.0 now on the Z4, which will be for Stage 1. The ZHP is then going back on the dyno with the TM15. I'm pretty confident next week we'll be done.

okay cool. still thinking about the cams or should i get pss9's. i will let you know before next week. anythiing on intake manifold

[samir@technik]

New mani is coming along, but you won't need it for Stage 1-3. I would go with the PSS9s for now. The SC will give you a nice boost in power to keep you happy for a while. You can always upgrade to cams later on if you have an itch for more "powa".

[2003330i]

New mani is coming along, but you won't need it for Stage 1-3. I would go with the PSS9s for now. The SC will give you a nice boost in power to keep you happy for a while. You can always upgrade to cams later on if you have an itch for more "powa".

true, but you can never have enough power

[ADVANT123]

Links to the videos are down, anyone have a good link?

[2003330i]

updates. please have some good news

[2003330i]

bump

[2003330i]

bump

[samir@technik]

Just got back into town (was in NY). Finishing up the Z4 right now, then we need a non-ZHP 330 to finish all the TM12 related stuff (MS45 is a lot more work, since there are 3 different ECU versions for the same engine...Z4 3.0, 330 ZHP, 330 non-ZHP). As of now, we're done with the Stage 1 ZHP kit and 90% done with the Stage 1 Z4 3.0 kit (the Z4 kit is a major pain due to a totally different fuel system). Then, all we need is a non-ZHP 330 to finish, which will also be used for the CARB test. Once all that is done, we can start on the higher boost TM15 3.0 projects. I think I'll send out your kit and headers shortly, so you can start scheduling your install. I know you're really eager to get the motor boosted, so worst case you can run the TM15 on low boost with the headers for now, then we'll send you the upgraded pulley/software for Stage 3 once it's ready. Let me know via email if that works for ya.

[2003330i]

Just got back into town (was in NY). Finishing up the Z4 right now, then we need a non-ZHP 330 to finish all the TM12 related stuff (MS45 is a lot more work, since there are 3 different ECU versions for the same engine...Z4 3.0, 330 ZHP, 330 non-ZHP). As of now, we're done with the Stage 1 ZHP kit and 90% done with the Stage 1 Z4 3.0 kit (the Z4 kit is a major pain due to a totally different fuel system). Then, all we need is a non-ZHP 330 to finish, which will also be used for the CARB test. Once all that is done, we can start on the higher boost TM15 3.0 projects. I think I'll send out your kit and headers shortly, so you can start scheduling your install. I know you're really eager to get the motor boosted, so worst case you can run the TM15 on low boost with the headers for now, then we'll send you the upgraded pulley/software for Stage 3 once it's ready. Let me know via email if that works for ya.


sounds good. i already sent you an email

[HighBoostin330]

Just got back into town (was in NY). Finishing up the Z4 right now, then we need a non-ZHP 330 to finish all the TM12 related stuff (MS45 is a lot more work, since there are 3 different ECU versions for the same engine...Z4 3.0, 330 ZHP, 330 non-ZHP). As of now, we're done with the Stage 1 ZHP kit and 90% done with the Stage 1 Z4 3.0 kit (the Z4 kit is a major pain due to a totally different fuel system). Then, all we need is a non-ZHP 330 to finish, which will also be used for the CARB test. Once all that is done, we can start on the higher boost TM15 3.0 projects. I think I'll send out your kit and headers shortly, so you can start scheduling your install. I know you're really eager to get the motor boosted, so worst case you can run the TM15 on low boost with the headers for now, then we'll send you the upgraded pulley/software for Stage 3 once it's ready. Let me know via email if that works for ya.

Samir, what do you have left to do on the non-ZHP 330 with the TM-12? That software seems to have been done a year ago. My car and Will's car are running perfect. :)

[wyu]

Samir, what do you have left to do on the non-ZHP 330 with the TM-12? That software seems to have been done a year ago. My car and Will's car are running perfect. :)


:werd: P-E-R-F-E-C-T

[samir@technik]

Samir, what do you have left to do on the non-ZHP 330 with the TM-12? That software seems to have been done a year ago. My car and Will's car are running perfect. :)

Non-ZHP MS45 (MS43 was finished a long time ago).

We're almost done with the Z4 and non-ZHP programming for both TM12 and TM15 units.

[HighBoostin330]

Non-ZHP MS45 (MS43 was finished a long time ago).

We're almost done with the Z4 and non-ZHP programming for both TM12 and TM15 units.

Ahhhh. My bad on that one. I was telling myself, "didn't Samir finish it a long time ago?" I hope CARB stickers are distributed soon!!! :)

[2003330i]

any updates

[2003330i]

bump