Sneak Peak... AA's High Performance Intake

[Activ3]

:shhh:

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[chisau]

Nice 'intake'........;)

[TxZHP04]

Yeah, it really 'sucks'.... ;)

[UniqueEDesign]

:drool: Looks familar ;)
Great pics David :thumbup:

[vaio76109]

CAI FTW :eeps:

[Tyler@UniqueDesign]

:drool: Looks familar ;)
Great pics David :thumbup:
:rofl: Its a high performance induction system right Garrett :eeps:

[AS007]

:evil: I see a different manifold...? And a front mount.? :dunno: That can't be a turbo.....

[AS007]

Wheres the bov though?

[Tyler@UniqueDesign]

:evil: I see a different manifold...? And a front mount.? :dunno: That can't be a turbo.....
....The key is the part bolted to the manifold :eeps:....:shhh:

[Activ3]

Wheres the bov though?



:mischief:

[OCswedishM3]

....The key is the part bolted to the manifold :eeps:....:shhh:

Looks like a T.S. if you ask me...haha

[russ330]

So wait the E46 has been out for how long and now there's going to be TWO different types of Twin Screw supercharger kits released? :yikes:

[shockin330i]

Looks like a T.S. if you ask me...haha
:werd:

[OCswedishM3]

So wait the E46 has been out for how long and now there's going to be TWO different types of Twin Screw supercharger kits released? :yikes:

But the secret is...how many of us knew? and just kept it a secret instead of advertising it saying it will be out..and then never actually comes out on time:thumbup:

[shockin330i]

Specs now!!!

[OCswedishM3]

Specs now!!!

I dunno...maybe you should call AA and ask Omar or Mike and find out whats really going on over there in Miami:yikes:

[UniqueEDesign]

But the secret is...how many of us knew? and just kept it a secret instead of advertising it saying it will be out..and then never actually comes out on time:thumbup:
I dunno...maybe you should call AA and ask Omar or Mike and find out whats really going on over there in Miami:yikes:

BIG BIG :werd:

[Tyler@UniqueDesign]

But the secret is...how many of us knew? and just kept it a secret instead of advertising it saying it will be out..and then never actually comes out on time:thumbup:
Theres something to be said for how close the car is to being done too. I'm seriously impressed with how quickly they are putting this together :bow:

[TxZHP04]

Specs now!!!

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7110407&postcount=13

[shockin330i]

Thanks. You save me a phone call :woot:

[crazy01]

What's the price range going to be?

[Tyler@UniqueDesign]

What's the price range going to be?
I'm guessing it would be similar to their E36 kits which are $7900 for the aftercooled 9.0 PSI kits.

[OCswedishM3]

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7110407&postcount=13

HAHA...way to give it away

[OCswedishM3]

Theres something to be said for how close the car is to being done too. I'm seriously impressed with how quickly they are putting this together :bow:

AA has been nothing short of great in all areas...I am so glad i went with them and the reason im not afraid to boost 10psi on my engine is because i trust them and the products they stand behind(i also run race gas 24-7 to be extra safe...haha). Ask anyone..and if you would like a power demo then go to crystal cove on 8/12 and i would be more than happy to show you what ~500whp feels like. The new T.S. systems looks great now that i have seen some pics..cant wait for final dyno numbers:thumbup:

[OCswedishM3]

I'm guessing it would be similar to their E36 kits which are $7900 for the aftercooled 9.0 PSI kits.

(305)233-9300....

[Ervin87]

Very Nice.
Looks great.
:thumbsup:

[e popa]

Nice, :thumbup:

[Active Autowerke]

Nice pics but some video would be nice. Oh well cant get everything.

One of the sales guys should bring a camcorder to work tomorrow and take some footage.:rolleyes:

[Activ3]

Nice pics but some video would be nice. Oh well cant get everything.

One of the sales guys should bring a camcorder to work tomorrow and take some footage.:rolleyes:



:werd: they're so damn lazy sometimes... :rolleyes:

[Tyler@UniqueDesign]

:werd: they're so damn lazy sometimes... :rolleyes:
I know man, it seems like that damn guy that sits on the desk just goofs off all day and does nothing :tsk:

[Active Autowerke]

Classic. I have no comment.

See you tomorrow "Mr. 328".

Looks like I am holding out on the videos for a while...:lmao:

[Activ3]

Classic. I have no comment.

See you tomorrow "Mr. 328".

Looks like I am holding out on the videos for a while...:lmao:


I got the day off tomorrow, have fun in your cubicle :lmao:

[pei330ci]

VERY nice!!

Thanks for posting the pictures....looking forward to the video. :)

[UniqueEDesign]

I got the day off tomorrow, have fun in your cubicle :lmao:
:lmao: I shouldn't laugh too hard though b/c I know I am fiending for a vid :shhh:

[derek80]

good luck garrett :thumbsup:

[Tyler@UniqueDesign]

Classic. I have no comment.

See you tomorrow "Mr. 328".

Looks like I am holding out on the videos for a while...:lmao:
:( Am I gonna have to drive to friggen Miami again just to see this **** again?

[Active Autowerke]

:( Am I gonna have to drive to friggen Miami again just to see this **** again?


Hop on the Turnpike an head South, its worth the drive...

[OCswedishM3]

Hop on the Turnpike an head South, its worth the drive...

Is that what you got over there in Florida...freking Turnpike's....

[RedBarron]

That is sick. We need a video of this beast.

[Tyler@UniqueDesign]

Hop on the Turnpike an head South, its worth the drive...
I already came down to visit you the day you got the car in to start the work. Maybe if I get a long weekend once school has started back up. 300 miles each way doesn't sound to appealing to me :eek: :(

I'll wait till the car is completely tuned then make the trip for a "test" drive :mischief:

[330 HRE]

So when will be the release date for this TS s/c. The ESS one is taking forever...I go with AA due to reliability and also software.

[ttran]

Wheres the bov though?

this system has a BOV? i thought superchargers needed bypass valves to redirect the air back into the intake tract?

[Activ3]

this system has a BOV? i thought superchargers needed bypass valves to redirect the air back into the intake tract?
You're correct, it uses a bypass valve, but in theory it does almost the same thing as a BOV, the difference being that it diverts the air back into the intake manifold.

[zulu4]

will this kit be available for other models like the Z4?

[Chr325is]

Do you hear more of a whine with a TS as compared to a Centrifugal? I can remember taking my neighbor's lighting out for a ride and the WEEE sound of the s/c was incredible.

[ttran]

You're correct, it uses a bypass valve, but in theory it does almost the same thing as a BOV, the difference being that it diverts the air back into the intake manifold.

gotcha. you referred to it as a BOV so i thought it vented to the atmosphere.

[stimpee]

will this kit be available for other models like the Z4?

It should be. Once we are ready we will need a car for test fitting, and it will probably require a different front mount heat exchanger. Otherwise there should be no major barriers.

Steve

[Yellowmann]

So when will be the release date for this TS s/c. The ESS one is taking forever...I go with AA due to reliability and also software.

Please provide specs and price. Can't wait to see more competition :)

Charlie

[Active Autowerke]

Please provide specs and price. Can't wait to see more competition :)

Charlie

Competition???

[330 HRE]

What is that suppose to mean Omar?

Back when there was only the AA turbo on E36...yes there is no competition, but then again AA was very low key in what they do.

Now with the S/C....of course there is competition...with your Rotex S/C you have competition with ASA s/c. With the twin screw, it is early to say as no one has released anything yet. For the E36, Eurosport came out with it first and then you guys. Both kits are well put together so there is always competition.

Don't be too stuck up and question it. I liked it before when Carl and Hugh use to post up and kept it low key on bimmer.org or bimmerforums.com or dtmpower.net

You may work at AA, but there are people here who have seen the progress of AA since the old days when E36 were the only cars around.

[jdm3]

The ESS one is taking forever...I go with AA due to reliability and also software.

LOL , I wanted to ignore this post but I just couldnt help it .
Do you know why ESS is taking forever on there T.S ? Maybe testing , longivity , performance .
You have no clue , do you ?
Also can you explain what you ment by ......I go with AA due to reliability and also software .
Do you know anything that we dont know about this kit , or the reliability of this kit ? Oh ya and what software are YOU talking about ?
Have they specified what year and model , is it for MS 43 , 45 ?
Please give us some info as far as the reliability and also the software , I would love to know , and Im sure so do other fanatics.

[Active Autowerke]

What is that suppose to mean Omar?

Back when there was only the AA turbo on E36...yes there is no competition, but then again AA was very low key in what they do.

Now with the S/C....of course there is competition...with your Rotex S/C you have competition with ASA s/c. With the twin screw, it is early to say as no one has released anything yet. For the E36, Eurosport came out with it first and then you guys. Both kits are well put together so there is always competition.

Don't be too stuck up and question it. I liked it before when Carl and Hugh use to post up and kept it low key on bimmer.org or bimmerforums.com or dtmpower.net

You may work at AA, but there are people here who have seen the progress of AA since the old days when E36 were the only cars around.

Hey

There must be a misunderstanding. As for as the ? mark I was under the impression that there was no other twin screw kit available for E46's. Please correct me if I am wrong. In no way was I being "stuck up", its just a SC kit in the end. I think you answered the questions yourself when you said no one has released anything for the twin screws yet.

I too remember when we were big with the E36's and till this day we still create products to improve those models.

As far as Eurosport coming out first with the E36 M3 kit, I wont go into a big debate over that, but there is a lot more to that story.

We wanted to provide twin screw kits for Enthusiast who love their cars, we have moved on from the E36 to the E46 models and will continue to develop new products. When it comes to advertising these kits low key doesnt sell SC kits.

There is nothing for me to question. We welcome competition because in the long run it is about satisfying the customer and competition only makes products better for you guys.

Stay tuned for updates. A new thread will be created soon with more pictures and maybe some video.:thumbsup:

p.s. The spelling is Karl and Hugh is his last name. It is one person.

p.s.s. Sorry for any misunderstanding.

[Active Autowerke]

LOL , I wanted to ignore this post but I just couldnt help it .
Do you know why ESS is taking forever on there T.S ? Maybe testing , longivity , performance .
You have no clue , do you ?
Also can you explain what you ment by ......I go with AA due to reliability and also software .
Do you know anything that we dont know about this kit , or the reliability of this kit ? Oh ya and what software are YOU talking about ?
Have they specified what year and model , is it for MS 43 , 45 ?
Please give us some info as far as the reliability and also the software , I would love to know , and Im sure so do other fanatics.

Can we please keep this on track. No need for these internet disputes. I have given more info by showing pics than any other company. More info will follow.

[330 HRE]

I am talking reliability and software on previous generation cars they did. They have no software issues with the twin screw in the E36 and turbo kits.

In some threads you see that ESS has software issues, not the one where they had to do custom tuning.

From the reputation AA has...I am sure there will be not many issues.

[jdm3]

Can we please keep this on track. No need for these internet disputes. I have given more info by showing pics than any other company. More info will follow.
Oh Im sorry , where in my post did you see any internet distpute . I dont think I know what an internet dispute is .
I simply asked where 330hre came up with his theory of reliability and also software about this kit . Thats all .




I am talking reliability and software on previous generation cars they did. They have no software issues with the twin screw in the E36 and turbo kits.

In some threads you see that ESS has software issues, not the one where they had to do custom tuning.

From the reputation AA has...I am sure there will be not many issues.

Really .
Not to start any arguments or any INTERNET DISPUTES , but I think every company out there has had there share of problems with their softwares , and their S/C , if you search this forum and other forums you would see that a lot of companies have been running into a lot of problems with their MS 45s.
I mean we all remmember the piggyback system all to well , RIGHT ?
Some companies claim they are in the process or they have been working on their softwares when truthfully they have had other companies writing their softwares and taking all the credit for other peoples work .
I can name a few sponsers on here and I can back up my claim also if you want me to .
My point is everybody comes on this forum and other forums trying to promote their products and their software , unless it has been tested and there is no issues or problems and they can provide dyno runs and dyno sheets to backup their claims or their products then I really dont want to hear about it .
As far as ESS , AA Im still waiting to see their T.S kit on a car running .
Until then all Im seeing is just a bunch of pictures , HYPE and falsified information floating around the internet and that includes everybody , it doesnt matter who it is .

[Active Autowerke II]

As far as ESS , AA Im still waiting to see their T.S kit on a car running .
Until then all Im seeing is just a bunch of pictures , HYPE and falsified information floating around the internet and that includes everybody , it doesnt matter who it is .



Ok there is no need for quarrel over the subject. How about a video? :thumbsup:

[ttran]

Ok there is no need for quarrel over the subject. How about a video? :thumbsup:

where's the vid?

[Tyler@UniqueDesign]

where's the vid?
Waiting on the lazy AA salesman to film it :shhh:

[Active Autowerke]

Waiting on the lazy AA salesman to film it :shhh:

Tomorrow morning ill post up a new thread with some new stuff... keep an eye out...:thumbsup:

[OCswedishM3]

Tomorrow morning ill post up a new thread with some new stuff... keep an eye out...:thumbsup:

Congrats on finishing the T.S.:thumbup:
Off topic: Do you know if my stuff has shipped out yet?cant seem to find tracking number..thanks Omar

[Active Autowerke]

As far as ESS , AA Im still waiting to see their T.S kit on a car running . Until then all Im seeing is just a bunch of pictures , HYPE and falsified information floating around the internet and that includes everybody , it doesnt matter who it is .

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?p=4683268#post4683268

[330 HRE]

AA came through!:thumbsup:

[Mike Benvo]

Oh Im sorry , where in my post did you see any internet distpute . I dont think I know what an internet dispute is .
I simply asked where 330hre came up with his theory of reliability and also software about this kit . Thats all .

It seems to me that a handful of people with ESS blowers have problems - mostly software. I've talked to them a few times and that's enough reason right there for 330 to state his "theory". :read:

[shockin330i]

Can't wait for this to come out


ps. Mike you give us 330 owners hope :bow:

[Mike Benvo]

Can't wait for this to come out


ps. Mike you give us 330 owners hope :bow:

Thx bro! Picking up the car tomorrow with stage 3.5/4.. Check the forum for vids :evil:.

[GBX330ci]

Thx bro! Picking up the car tomorrow with stage 3.5/4.. Check the forum for vids :evil:.

can't wait bro! Picking my car up too tomorrow. Its only an intercooler, but its always great getting your car after a new mod! :evil:

[MarvelPhx]

It seems to me that a handful of people with ESS blowers have problems - mostly software. I've talked to them a few times and that's enough reason right there for 330 to state his "theory". :read:

Mike, now thats not accurate. Actually, every problem I have ever seen here about ESS ends up *not* being the software, but something else all together such as dirty or faulty MAFs or car wash soap or bad coils or some other deal.

People just like to blame software first with any problem, and this doesn't just affect ESS, but AA, Technik, VF, Dinan, all of em. No one is immune.

[Mike Benvo]

Mike, now thats not accurate. Actually, every problem I have ever seen here about ESS ends up *not* being the software, but something else all together such as dirty or faulty MAFs or car wash soap or bad coils or some other deal.

People just like to blame software first with any problem, and this doesn't just affect ESS, but AA, Technik, VF, Dinan, all of em. No one is immune.

I think it's fair to say that people look at the SW first when a problem arises - almost to the point of becomming a scapegoat. When I added cams to my car, I still used the same file that I had before without problems. I've seen a few people here and there comment that they have sporadic CEL's with ESS software, and then there is stylinexpat who has had no ECU for much longer than promised. I'm very curious to see how his SW turns out....

[MarvelPhx]

I think it's fair to say that people look at the SW first when a problem arises - almost to the point of becomming a scapegoat. When I added cams to my car, I still used the same file that I had before without problems. I've seen a few people here and there comment that they have sporadic CEL's with ESS software, and then there is stylinexpat who has had no ECU for much longer than promised. I'm very curious to see how his SW turns out....

We are getting off topic here, but in Andy's case which you shouldn't consider at all looking at the situation, he had codes long before software. That's why he asked for software the other company couldn't provide in the first place. Now he is getting custom software written for no charge, I think he should be a lot more patient instead of railing ESS in public for doing something generous.

And whether people want to admit it or not, every manufacturer gets them, heck even stock cars get them. I could list written examples of every SC manufacturer throwing CELs if you like, they are all over the internet. However, when installed properly, ESS has rarely had a software related problem. It has always been an installation error or failure of some other part. Neither of my two ESS SC'd cars have *ever* thrown a code.

[Mike Benvo]

We are getting off topic here, but in Andy's case which you shouldn't consider at all looking at the situation, he had codes long before software. That's why he asked for software the other company couldn't provide in the first place. Now he is getting custom software written for no charge, I think he should be a lot more patient instead of railing ESS in public for doing something generous.

And whether people want to admit it or not, every manufacturer gets them, heck even stock cars get them. I could list written examples of every SC manufacturer throwing CELs if you like, they are all over the internet. However, when installed properly, ESS has rarely had a software related problem. It has always been an installation error or failure of some other part. Neither of my two ESS SC'd cars have *ever* thrown a code.

This is definitly getting off topic.. Let's leave it at that so this thread gets back on track. I caution calling it a "custom tune" though. Regardless, we will see the outcome and I'm sure it will be a positive result.

[jason 77]

Ok did you guys move the thing circled in red in the picture? cause in my engine bay it is located where the arrow is pointed? or is my engine just different than this one?

http://img419.imageshack.us/img419/4242/mvc003ssv5.jpg

[Tyler@UniqueDesign]

Ok did you guys move the thing circled in red in the picture? cause in my engine bay it is located where the arrow is pointed? or is my engine just different than this one?

http://img419.imageshack.us/img419/4242/mvc003ssv5.jpg
The power steering resorvoir has to be relocated to make room for the SC pulley.

[jason 77]

The power steering resorvoir has to be relocated to make room for the SC pulley.

oh ok that is what I thought... cool thanks for the info!

[stimpee]

Ok did you guys move the thing circled in red in the picture? cause in my engine bay it is located where the arrow is pointed? or is my engine just different than this one?

http://img419.imageshack.us/img419/4242/mvc003ssv5.jpg


Actually it moved itself due to us using special FI mojo black magic to pursuade it into moving.












:craig:


Just kidding, yes it had to be moved to clear the snout drive and pulley. One of the many minor, and some major things that had to be changed from the E36 layout to make the E46 work.

Steve

[chisau]

Steve,

I'm definitely in on this for my E36M once my cylinder head is back together. Will you guys be putting something together for an E39 530i auto? I'm dying to give my other car a bump too, but I don't know if it would handle the torque increase.

[BWMguy206]

This is an AA Tuning/Hurtig Motorwerks Level 2 Twin Screw Kit on an E36/5 332ti hatchback.

I know it ain't no E46 but these are more detailed shots in what the AA Tuning/Hurtig Motorwerks may look like on an E46. Basically the blower and manifold/intercooler assembly will be identical to the E46 kit. Only difference is intake design before the blower and other areas you might be able to ID.

BTW this 332ti has a Dinan Big Bore Throttle Body, Supersprint Headers, Supersprint Resonator with no cats, and a Supersprint E46 330i rear muffler. Car has 3.73 gears as well.

[BWMguy206]

More pics...

[vaio76109]

Who makes the actual twin screw unit for AA, or does AA make it?

[david05111]

^^^^Do you have any vids or sound clips of that setup?^^^^

[BWMguy206]

^^^^Do you have any vids or sound clips of that setup?^^^^

I have a video camera but does anyone have any recommendations on PC software that I can convert the file to WMV and a website to host it?

[stimpee]

Who makes the actual twin screw unit for AA, or does AA make it?

It is a Lysholm/Opcon MX417 1.7L compressor.

[MarvelPhx]

It is a Lysholm/Opcon MX417 1.7L compressor.

Technically, the AA is a Autorotor/Opcon. Lysholm uses the casted casings while Autorotor uses the machined. But then if you really think about it, Opcon owns all of them, Autorotor, SRM, Laminova, and Lysholm so its really here nor there. They are both twin screws.

[stimpee]

Technically, the AA is a Autorotor/Opcon. Lysholm uses the casted casings while Autorotor uses the machined. But then if you really think about it, Opcon owns all of them, Autorotor, SRM, Laminova, and Lysholm so its really here nor there. They are both twin screws.

You obviously have not visited Lysholm's site recently. All of the compressors are now listed as "Lysholm" compressors.

Neither here or there really, but that is why I called it as I did...

Steve

[TxZHP04]

Sounds like Opcon has started the rebranding effort. Anyone know if they're planning to consolidate their product offerings?