supercharger install problems

[2003330i]

i went to pick up my car today and my car ws misfiring. technic said that it was my coils but my car was perfectly fine before the install. azevedo is going to change the injectors tomorrow to see if that is the problem.

has anyone gone thought this?

[beanfree]

good luck with finding the cause. Keep us posted.

[2003330i]

hopefully i get some good new tomorrow. i can't take 1 more thing of bad news

[Hamann_323ci]

I have the same stalling issue since my s/c was installed. There was no misfire but MAF was making the car bog, so a new MAF was replaced. A little better but stalls during the first few minutes when coasting to a stop. After that it's fine. Sometimes runs a little rich & car feels like it's lagging, any ideas?

[beanfree]

I have the same stalling issue since my s/c was installed. There was no misfire but MAF was making the car bog, so a new MAF was replaced. A little better but stalls during the first few minutes when coasting to a stop. After that it's fine. Sometimes runs a little rich & car feels like it's lagging, any ideas?

What Stage supercharger are you running and who is the manufacturer? Thanks.

[Hamann_323ci]

What Stage supercharger are you running and who is the manufacturer? Thanks.
Technik ASA Stage 1 w/9.5 psi pulley

[2003330i]

I have the same stalling issue since my s/c was installed. There was no misfire but MAF was making the car bog, so a new MAF was replaced. A little better but stalls during the first few minutes when coasting to a stop. After that it's fine. Sometimes runs a little rich & car feels like it's lagging, any ideas?

i reallly dont know but i will keep you posted on what these people find out tomorrow

[GBX330ci]

i reallly dont know but i will keep you posted on what these people find out tomorrow

Take it to ICS. They got my car running and pushing 351+whp w/ technik stage 1, tm-12 and 9.5psi pulley! :evil:

[beanfree]

Take it to ICS. They got my car running and pushing 351+whp w/ technik stage 1, tm-12 and 9.5psi pulley! :evil:

How does it run though? Is it smooth? Would seem that the ecu tuning for Stage 1 would not work with a 9.5 psi pulley.

[GBX330ci]

How does it run though? Is it smooth? Would seem that the ecu tuning for Stage 1 would not work with a 9.5 psi pulley.

Runs smooth like butter! Stage 1 w/ 9.5 psi pulley will work fine. You might even be able to add cams OR headers, but probably not both, since at that point, the injectors will most likely be maxed out.

[clean-m-tech330]

That's interesting, misfiring, hmm- I've never heard of that upon install of an s/c kit- are you going to replace your coils and plugs 2003330i? keep me posted, thanks!

[funkyman]

That's interesting, misfiring, hmm- I've never heard of that upon install of an s/c kit- are you going to replace your coils and plugs 2003330i? keep me posted, thanks!

I have 01 330ci too that misfires especially on cold start up.I replaced all the coils,spark plugs,fuel filter.It stills gives me a rich fuel and random msifire and all my o2 sensors are kaput!!!!
Can an bad 02 sensor cause misfire.MAF sensor is ok by the looks of it.No engine error or light about maf sensor,however i have some error conserning vacuum thermostat coolent temp too high or soemthing what the hell does that mean.

[clean-m-tech330]

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Just out of curiousity who installed your kit- I'm very curious if installation is what caused this, I've never had this problem- ever - Technik installed my kit and I haven't had a single cel light or any sort of prob whatsoever- that's definitely frustrating though.

[ewok]

I have a similar problem with mine. And my problem is with the connectors on the injectors. When I start to misfire I just wiggle around the connectors and it goes away. It sounds ghetto but until I get some extra cash for the injector wire harness thats all I do. If you have a scanner check which cylinder(s) are misfireing, then play with that connecter. Hope that helps! Good luck!

[2003330i]

does any one have the number for technik

[clean-m-tech330]

1866-421-7366

[2003330i]

1866-421-7366

thanks. i spoke to zolti and i have a few problems. don't know what the problems are but my car is missing allot of power. 250 rwhp and 247 torque

[2003330i]

ok well today azevedo called me to ask me how the car was running. i tihnk the problem was that they gave me 32 pound injectors. i have to call samir and zolti and let them know. i asked these guys if it the ones they put in my car are 30 pound and they say yes and today call me and tell me it was 32 pound. this could explain why the car gets so rich up top on the higher RPM's.

[clean-m-tech330]

thanks. i spoke to zolti and i have a few problems. don't know what the problems are but my car is missing allot of power. 250 rwhp and 247 torque

Hmm, that's interesting what octane gas did you have in the car? Also how much boost are you running again, 9.5? Zolti will get the car running right, no worries.

[clean-m-tech330]

ok well today azevedo called me to ask me how the car was running. i tihnk the problem was that they gave me 32 pound injectors. i have to call samir and zolti and let them know. i asked these guys if it the ones they put in my car are 30 pound and they say yes and today call me and tell me it was 32 pound. this could explain why the car gets so rich up top on the higher RPM's.

32lb injectors... they're red too right? Also do you have any other mods to the car?

[2003330i]

Hmm, that's interesting what octane gas did you have in the car? Also how much boost are you running again, 9.5? Zolti will get the car running right, no worries.

i run 93 and yeah 9.5psi with headers

[2003330i]

32lb injectors... they're red too right? Also do you have any other mods to the car?

it should have been 30 not 32 azevedo put the wrong ones in

[BF330ci]

Take it to ICS. They got my car running and pushing 351+whp w/ technik stage 1, tm-12 and 9.5psi pulley! :evil:

Thats pretty interesting about the numbers you are claiming...i know Mbenvo has 360+whp...and he has a lot of other things done to his car...

are you sure you dont mean, 350bhp??? :hi:

[clean-m-tech330]

i run 93 and yeah 9.5psi with headers

The injectors being too large will definitely be a prob, however I'm curious as to how you ended up with 32lb injectors. The fact that you have headers already is interesting, i had to wait.... lol

[russ330]

Thats pretty interesting about the numbers you are claiming...i know Mbenvo has 360+whp...and he has a lot of other things done to his car...

are you sure you dont mean, 350bhp??? :hi:

He's posted the dyno before. :thumbup: FYI - MBenvo's car (before it went under the knife again) was at ~390 rwhp. :yikes:

[2003330i]

The injectors being too large will definitely be a prob, however I'm curious as to how you ended up with 32lb injectors. The fact that you have headers already is interesting, i had to wait.... lol

well I'm only suppose to have 30lb but azevedo changed them to 32 because they said with the 30lb injectors the car was mis-firing. well i was going with headers and cams but samir told me that i can't do the cams yet

[clean-m-tech330]

i think headers would be okay with the 30lb injectors but cams + headers would be too much airflow for the 30's so you'd need 40's to make it work, but the software will need to be adjusted somewhat-

[beanfree]

well I'm only suppose to have 30lb but azevedo changed them to 32 because they said with the 30lb injectors the car was mis-firing. well i was going with headers and cams but samir told me that i can't do the cams yet

How is the car running now? Did you do a new dyno? Spoke to Samir today and he is sending me the Stage 3 with the TM-15 in a week or so. Will let you know how it goes.

[2003330i]

How is the car running now? Did you do a new dyno? Spoke to Samir today and he is sending me the Stage 3 with the TM-15 in a week or so. Will let you know how it goes.

i also went for the tm15 but then changed to the tm12 because it spools allot faster

[clean-m-tech330]

the tm-15 is too big for a zhp- im also going to be switching to a 12 to gain from the faster spool-

[2003330i]

the tm-15 is too big for a zhp- im also going to be switching to a 12 to gain from the faster spool-

are we ever going to be able to use the tm15?

[beanfree]

Since all you guys are using the tm12. I will go with the tm15 and be the guinea pig. Will be having Rogue Eng. do the install. Samir will be shipping out the kit in a week and Rogue said they need a couple of weeks for the charger, headers, cats and boost gauge because they will be doing it in stages, first the charger and boost gauge then the headers and cats. So looks like the end of Sept.:)

[clean-m-tech330]

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I was the first with the TM-15 for a zhp lol- I've been running it for a while and trust me, the tm-12 is gonna be an upgrade lol- but hey if you want to run the 15 it's cool, fyi- bigger is not always better, I have the 15 and trust me I'm as power hungry as anyone here if not more than most. The 15 is too big of a blower for current setup, unless you have both cams, headers, larger injectors, and even newer software. I highly doubt you'll fully be able to utlize the TM-15

[clean-m-tech330]

are we ever going to be able to use the tm15?


We can always use it, even right now, i just posted about this just above. Samir and I have spoke about this several times and I think we might try some other things to possibly really get this blower to work. However for now the best bet is the TM-12, I know a lot of the guys want the tm-15 because they think it's bigger and will provide more power, but actually it doesnt becauce we cannot fully utilize it yet. To be more specific the Tm-15 picks up on boost where the tm-12 drops. The tm-12 isnt full utilized till roughly 9.5- 11 lbs of boost. The cool thing about the 12 is since its a smaller blower you can fully use the blower to it's maximum potential with less lag, this makes the tm-12 the better for quicker boost response. Also the zhp will be able to probably make more power with the 12 than the 15. Hope this helps a little bit.

[0hMyGod]

So did you get the problem fixed?

[clean-m-tech330]

Not yet honestly. technically there's no real problem. It's more so find the most efficient means to deliver the power to the car. The tm-15 works fine and i love it to death, however everyone always wants more power and I'm not different. Samir and I have beat this topic to death time and time again, there's more power to be made with the tm-12 unit at least for now with the zhp's. adding headers will somewhat stretch the limit of the 30lb injectors thats why i personally havent added headers yet and you can't run cams yet- espcecially not without 40lb injectors they would become mandatory. a good mod to add to this s/c kit would be a clutch and ltw flywheel. other than that- everyone just needs to be patient. I was a guinea pig so no worries, I'll get this taken care of in conjunction with samir and it'll be fine- the kit is great, I have no complaints-

[0hMyGod]

Not yet honestly. technically there's no real problem. It's more so find the most efficient means to deliver the power to the car. The tm-15 works fine and i love it to death, however everyone always wants more power and I'm not different. Samir and I have beat this topic to death time and time again, there's more power to be made with the tm-12 unit at least for now with the zhp's. adding headers will somewhat stretch the limit of the 30lb injectors thats why i personally havent added headers yet and you can't run cams yet- espcecially not without 40lb injectors they would become mandatory. a good mod to add to this s/c kit would be a clutch and ltw flywheel. other than that- everyone just needs to be patient. I was a guinea pig so no worries, I'll get this taken care of in conjunction with samir and it'll be fine- the kit is great, I have no complaints-

I thought he was having problem with misfiring and other stuff.:eeps:
and I remember reading his brother's post about the install problem they were having that seems to be deleted for some reason. :eeps:

[clean-m-tech330]

Oh- haha- my bad- well in that case it seems like the kit was installed inproperly as was mentioned, the backfiring I'm not sure of the cause, maybe all the extra fuel from the overly large injectors. Switching to the correctly sized injectors may have knocked that out- as far as posts being deleted i dunno..

[beanfree]

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I was the first with the TM-15 for a zhp lol- I've been running it for a while and trust me, the tm-12 is gonna be an upgrade lol- but hey if you want to run the 15 it's cool, fyi- bigger is not always better, I have the 15 and trust me I'm as power hungry as anyone here if not more than most. The 15 is too big of a blower for current setup, unless you have both cams, headers, larger injectors, and even newer software. I highly doubt you'll fully be able to utlize the TM-15

I am going to be installing the headers alongwith the blower. I am not looking to keep increasing power. I will be very happy with 335-340 to the wheels. After that lsd and I am done. Will send Samir an e-mail about the injectors, software and tm-15 vs. tm-12. Thanks for the info.

[clean-m-tech330]

K, hope that works for you, seeing how is i was trying to do the same thing- im not trying to sound like an ass, i've just been where you're trying to go- adding headers and hoping to go more isnt going to work because you're limited by the software, and if there was more room to go, id already have been there, but seein how is we're currently waiting for more. I'd take the 12 with headers and be happy all day long- but to each his own-:thumbsup: also with with the tm-15 and headers i dunno how you'll achieve 340whp seeing how is at 10.2 lbs i made 291whp without headers and a bone stock car so at 9.5 with headers you wont see a 50whp gain from headers- just some food for thought.

[beanfree]

As a result of this thread, I asked Samir a few questions. He said that I would be getting the tm 12 as part of the stage 3 package (not the tm 15). Apparently their web site had wrong information. He mentioned that because the top end was 7000 rpm for the zhp's the tm 12 would be better. Does not really matter to me much either way. Glad I cleared that up. As far as the horsepower, I was under the impression that each lb of boost would increase power by about 15 rwhp so i would think that the 9.5 versus 6 (in Stage 1) would be an increase of about 42 rwhp and since the 6 usually dyno's about 290 rwhp, I should get 42 plus maybe 8 for the headers, leading to 340 rwhp. Isn't 291 really low for a Stage 3? Can it be that the tm12 with 9.5 puts out 50 more rwhp than the tm 15 with 9.5?

[beanfree]

well I'm only suppose to have 30lb but azevedo changed them to 32 because they said with the 30lb injectors the car was mis-firing. well i was going with headers and cams but samir told me that i can't do the cams yet

What happened to the car? Have the installation issues been fixed? Update please.

[clean-m-tech330]

As a result of this thread, I asked Samir a few questions. He said that I would be getting the tm 12 as part of the stage 3 package (not the tm 15). Apparently their web site had wrong information. He mentioned that because the top end was 7000 rpm for the zhp's the tm 12 would be better. Does not really matter to me much either way. Glad I cleared that up. As far as the horsepower, I was under the impression that each lb of boost would increase power by about 15 rwhp so i would think that the 9.5 versus 6 (in Stage 1) would be an increase of about 42 rwhp and since the 6 usually dyno's about 290 rwhp, I should get 42 plus maybe 8 for the headers, leading to 340 rwhp. Isn't 291 really low for a Stage 3? Can it be that the tm12 with 9.5 puts out 50 more rwhp than the tm 15 with 9.5?

That's almost exactly what i was saying.... Anyways yes 291 with the tm-15 isnt that low at all considering the fact that the the blower is too big for a zhp- on a ms43 330 this setup I'm currently running would be perfect. With the tm-12 + headers I would expect between 300whp and 310whp- you're car will be fast, promise :thumbsup:

[fusionrace]

Can it be that the tm12 with 9.5 puts out 50 more rwhp than the tm 15 with 9.5?

That could be the case. The TM-15 may not be operating in its efficiency range at 9.5 psi. Just a guess....

[clean-m-tech330]

That could be the case. The TM-15 may not be operating in its efficiency range at 9.5 psi. Just a guess....

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You're correct the TM-15 is not being fully utilized in the zhp kit the tm-12 is the key- guys- I honestly think we've beat this topic to death time and time again within this same thread-

[2003330i]

What happened to the car? Have the installation issues been fixed? Update please.

it is currently at rogue. hopefully they can figure it out. i think its just the injectors tho

[2003330i]

That's almost exactly what i was saying.... Anyways yes 291 with the tm-15 isnt that low at all considering the fact that the the blower is too big for a zhp- on a ms43 330 this setup I'm currently running would be perfect. With the tm-12 + headers I would expect between 300whp and 310whp- you're car will be fast, promise :thumbsup:

when are you putting the headers and cams on? hopefully that would open the engine allot more so we can use the tm15. i want to put cams on now but i dint have the luxury to be in Cali so i cant take any chances

[2003330i]

That's almost exactly what i was saying.... Anyways yes 291 with the tm-15 isnt that low at all considering the fact that the the blower is too big for a zhp- on a ms43 330 this setup I'm currently running would be perfect. With the tm-12 + headers I would expect between 300whp and 310whp- you're car will be fast, promise :thumbsup:

that is what I'm expecting with the tm12 at 9.5 and headers. i will be happy with 310 but allot happier with 330-340 with cams

[clean-m-tech330]

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I cant tell you how happy it makes me feel to know someone understood what i was saying.... :craig: .... anyways im waiting for samir to get back then we'll start then I'll speak with him and we can get started on this product, I'm having a carbon roof installed and all the other vorsteiner parts installed then I'll be dropping my car off at technik as soon as Samir and I can work something out and they have some room for my car- I'm hoping to just leave it there and let them finish what they need, I'm planning on buying a beater soon- so we'll see!

-Chris

[2003330i]

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I cant tell you how happy it makes me feel to know someone understood what i was saying.... :craig: .... anyways im waiting for samir to get back then we'll start then I'll speak with him and we can get started on this product, I'm having a carbon roof installed and all the other vorsteiner parts installed then I'll be dropping my car off at technik as soon as Samir and I can work something out and they have some room for my car- I'm hoping to just leave it there and let them finish what they need, I'm planning on buying a beater soon- so we'll see!

-Chris

yeah that what i just did and the f ing thing craped out on me tonight. can you pm me the price that you payed for the roof. please drop that thing off soon. i would like to see the power difference, if not that big i will just stay with the tm12

[clean-m-tech330]

yeah that what i just did and the f ing thing craped out on me tonight. can you pm me the price that you payed for the roof. please drop that thing off soon. i would like to see the power difference, if not that big i will just stay with the tm12

Eh the pricing is still in the works with vorsteiner ive received literally a full sponsorship- i have the trunk, and I'm currently waiting for my roof to be made and for the hood as well, as soon as the the parts are installed ill take it to technik- no worries I'm on this for everyone-

[2003330i]

Eh the pricing is still in the works with vorsteiner ive received literally a full sponsorship- i have the trunk, and I'm currently waiting for my roof to be made and for the hood as well, as soon as the the parts are installed ill take it to technik- no worries I'm on this for everyone-

how do you get sposorship? i would be interested. with the amount i spent i could have used one of those

[noBenz]

Wait, their makinf a hood for the facelifted coupes? Hmmm that would be very interesting. Let us coupes know how that goes!

[beanfree]

that is what I'm expecting with the tm12 at 9.5 and headers. i will be happy with 310 but allot happier with 330-340 with cams

A tm12 stage 1 technik kit quotes 335-340 crank (about 290 wheel)an increase of approx. 100 whp for 6 lbs. Seems to me a tm12 stage 3 with headers and an additional 60% boost should put out at least 40 more horses. 310 seems very low for an additional 60% boost.

[clean-m-tech330]

A tm12 stage 1 technik kit quotes 335-340 crank (about 290 wheel)an increase of approx. 100 whp for 6 lbs. Seems to me a tm12 stage 3 with headers and an additional 60% boost should put out at least 40 more horses. 310 seems very low for an additional 60% boost.


Logically what you say makes sense, however, seeing how I've been there and ran over 10psi and didnt hit 300rwhp it's clear to see that the blower was just too large. The ZHP is different from an ms43 330, if you put the kit in currently running on a regular 330- ha- he'd smoke me in hp and tq- it's all beacause the zhp is a pain in the ass to tune. On a 330 you'd probably expect the numbers you're looking for- there's just some more things that need to be worked out before you can see the exact power you're looking for, I can assure you 310rwhp is a good amount to begin with, stick with that and by the time you've become fully able to handle of it, it's a good bit- then everything else should be finished-

[jt330ci]

my brothers car wasnt misfiring fellas he mustv misunderstood something. The car is dropping cylinders because of the injectors that came with the kit. Well its not because of the injectors it is because the car is not making enough fuel pressure. That is why the car ran better when azzevedo installed the 32 pound injectors. Right now the car is at rouge and it is getting worked on. They are trying to find exactly what the problem is and they said they are going to continue work on it on Monday. Ill let you guys know what is going on because my brother is not to involed with the car.haha

[clean-m-tech330]

I'm curious did your brothers car happen to have any software on the car before going in for the s/c ie: Dinan, shark injector, powerchip, etc?

[2003330i]

I'm curious did your brothers car happen to have any software on the car before going in for the s/c ie: Dinan, shark injector, powerchip, etc?

nope. the only thing i had done to the car was afe intake, 3.46 gearig and tse3

[clean-m-tech330]

The only thing that honestly makes sense in my head is just straight up bad install :banghead: Any news from rogue? I hope this all gets sorted out for you soon!