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icosaca
08-31-2006, 07:31 PM
ok, so i know i need pistons, rods, valves, valve springs... what else, also where can i get all this from, and brands.
all this is for a 330 motor
thanks
jorge saca

Oshin02
08-31-2006, 07:45 PM
I can take car of all :thumbsup: those parts threw BMAparts.com....

Skeeter
08-31-2006, 08:53 PM
kevlar would def bullet proof that sucker

MarvelPhx
08-31-2006, 08:54 PM
Bulletproof to what extent... 300hp? 400hp? 500hp? 1000hp?

You would be surprised how strong the guts of the 330 are.

russ330
08-31-2006, 09:06 PM
kevlar would def bullet proof that sucker

:( I wanted to make that joke.

m3mobbin
08-31-2006, 11:18 PM
ARP head bolts, forged connecting rods, race valve springs, Pauter race pistons, etc. The sky's the limit. I've even seen titanium connecting rods to reduce rotating mass.
You can get a lot of racing quality engine components from VAC:
http://vacmotorsports.com/cgi-bin/view_cat.pl?cat=Engine+Components

icosaca
09-01-2006, 01:34 PM
what i really want to do is mount a c38 blower on the 3.0 motor, i really dont know what i will need, i do know i need pistons, rods, valves, and valve springs, anything else???
from where???

TxZHP04
09-01-2006, 01:53 PM
what i really want to do is mount a c38 blower on the 3.0 motor, i really dont know what i will need, i do know i need pistons, rods, valves, and valve springs, anything else???
from where???

Todd is right... you need to build towards a specific goal. Otherwise, you end up replacing things that don't need to be replaced or installing new parts that might not be up to the task at hand.

Sounds like you have a specific supercharger in mind. Good. Now, what kind of horsepower are you expecting to set that up to run? Also, do you plan to increase the rev limit? Pulleys, tuning, etc will all affect the ultimate ouput of your engine with that supercharger. Once you know what level of horsepower you are shooting for and the max rpms you want to rev to, then we can help you decide what needs to be upgraded from stock.

icosaca
09-01-2006, 02:38 PM
i want to get to arround 450rwhp....with the c38 blower.

OCswedishM3
09-01-2006, 03:26 PM
i want to get to arround 450rwhp....with the c38 blower.

Do you want the 71 series like i have..or the new 81 series? Because i am at the maximum propeller speed for the 71 series. And i am boosting 9psi with 500whp. U would definetly need a custom setup to put that blower on a non-s54 engine..but goodluck that would be a cool project

clean-m-tech330
09-01-2006, 03:30 PM
Email Samir and he'll take care of you- He'll also be able to inform you as to what would be necessary to build the motor you're looking for. This will definitely be a pricey venture though, that I can promise. The end result will be worth it though, good luck :craig:

TaZaM3
09-01-2006, 04:06 PM
I dont think you need all that for the setup you are looking for. You would need some internals for over 12 psi. We dont know how much the 330 block can handle though (prob 20+psi), we will see what the S54 bottom end can do soon.

OCswedishM3
09-01-2006, 04:20 PM
I dont think you need all that for the setup you are looking for. You would need some internals for over 12 psi. We dont know how much the 330 block can handle though (prob 20+psi), we will see what the S54 bottom end can do soon.

Are you going to do a standalone? Or pay someone to custom tune your ECU, if thats possible?

icosaca
09-02-2006, 07:55 AM
living in el salvador is a bit more complicated for this than having active in my neighborhood as i did 4 months ago when i lived in miami:cry: now here, i have been to two guys who are able to do ecu tuning. one is here in el salvador, which i know supercharged a vert m3 with a vortech blower who "claims" to be pushing 550 whp. he also did a m3 turbo with a standalone computer which claims to be pushing 670whp.
dont know much about the guy in guatemala, but actually ecu tuning is what scares me a bit.

sheefo2k
09-02-2006, 12:23 PM
i want to get to arround 450rwhp....with the c38 blower.
If you dont mind why stopping just there? If you will rebuild (open the motor, then open it once and stop) I think its best to build it to more HP and start with low boost then boost up slowly slowly..

icosaca
09-02-2006, 02:08 PM
i really want to get to get to the most i can boost without having to raplace as many things, i guess just pistons, rods, and head gasket would be fine to install a c38 blower on the 330 motor...
i need a 3.0 motor by the way, cuz im a 325 now.....
or would you guys think its worthit doing this to the 2.5????

sheefo2k
09-02-2006, 02:27 PM
i really want to get to get to the most i can boost without having to raplace as many things, i guess just pistons, rods, and head gasket would be fine to install a c38 blower on the 330 motor...
i need a 3.0 motor by the way, cuz im a 325 now.....
or would you guys think its worthit doing this to the 2.5????
Okay I have a 325 and I destroyed my old motor so I swapped it for a 3.0
While the motor was out I put in schrick cams and chip. I went from not carring about power to loving it, then did exhaust intake (stupid things). Exhaust helped because of the old one being extremly extremly heavy. I did a dif swap, CDV-removal and I m loving it very much.

Moral of this, the 3.0 is a great great motor.
If I were you, I would drive the 2.5 and keep your eyes open for a 3.0 and then while the 3.0 is out of the car; BUILD IT. Lower compression, FI cams, strong rods and then go with a TM-15 and BOOST IT. instead of going 10pis, go 12 and higher and higer.
The only problem you will encounter will be the intake manifold not holding up. Talk with samir about it, I think they got something in the making.

Goodluck, If I had a lot of cash low then that would be the way to go for sure.

MarvelPhx
09-02-2006, 05:24 PM
Agreed, dump the 325 for the 330 if you are aiming that high. For example, the forged crank in the 330 is from the S52 which we have seen can sustain silly high turbo HP numbers. 325 doesnt have it. Go find a 330 engine before you start, you will be much better off.

sheefo2k
09-02-2006, 05:29 PM
Agreed, dump the 325 for the 330 if you are aiming that high. For example, the forged crank in the 330 is from the S52 which we have seen can sustain silly high turbo HP numbers. 325 doesnt have it. Go find a 330 engine before you start, you will be much better off.
Btw the reason I said lower compression is because based on the graph you made for the TM-15, when he runs high boost well he will be in the "yellow field" motor happy and blower happy.

icosaca
09-02-2006, 09:25 PM
yes, i dont think the 2.5 wound hold much....
im on the look out for a 3.0..........if anyone knows of one, let me know...