somethings been bugging me about Dinan

[loknaster]

the superchargers they use on their M3 packages (or any package i beleive) are Vortech superchargers.


Now if they chose vortech, then that shows that they have the upmost confidence in their work...so here is my question

Vortech makes a 330ci supercharger, but Dinan wont sell it...why?

I called my local Dinan dealership and went for a longshot, and asked him if i used a vortech supercharger, could they give me the bumper to bumper.

stupid question you might say, but i wanted to know. My first answer was a 3 minute pause, followed by a "I truely do not know". So he called the Dinan HQ or whatever, and the guy there said "well no...but I dont understand why not"

so there you have it =(

i really would like Dinan to incorporate the 330ci supercharger into their product line up so i could get me one QQ

[russ330]

I guess Dinan doesn't see a significant enough supercharger market for non-M E46's.

Luckily for everyone there are other companies that DO make supercharger kits for our cars. :)

[sheefo2k]

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[BWMguy206]

Vortech Engineering actually has their own line of BMW 330Ci kits?

Maybe you misunderstanding it a bit but Vortech only supplies the blowers and nothing else.

[BWMguy206]

I guess Dinan doesn't see a significant enough supercharger market for non-M E46's.

Luckily for everyone there are other companies that DO make supercharger kits for our cars. :)

Exactly.. this is a big loss for Dinan.

[loknaster]

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/products/systems/

is the site, unless i have the wrong one...

im trying to get all the info about warranties, what voids them what doesnt about superchargers since my car is still new. iv heard different things like "if the s/c doesnt cause the problem, then bmw has to honor your warranty", i asked bob smith bmw that and they said "haha no." so im trying to figure everything out. any info would be great

[russ330]

:google: "magnuson moss warranty act"

I'm sure some of the sites will explain exactly how a customer is protected by a warranty.

My question is however if you've got this brand new E46 and I'm assuming not much money mod wise invested into it, have you considered simply selling/trading the thing in and purchasing a used M3? :dunno:

[BWMguy206]

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/products/systems/

is the site, unless i have the wrong one...

im trying to get all the info about warranties, what voids them what doesnt about superchargers since my car is still new. iv heard different things like "if the s/c doesnt cause the problem, then bmw has to honor your warranty", i asked bob smith bmw that and they said "haha no." so im trying to figure everything out. any info would be great

Vortech does NOT make BMW SC kits. They have other parties that make the kit and they are responsible for R&D and other things like CARB.

If you have a SC kit and you have a SES soon light for a camshaft position sensor fault, the dealer could either replace it under warranty or won't even touch it. Your warranty will not be voided unless the dealer reports it.

[bmwstephen]

i spoke with steve dinan a while ago about that, the reason why they didnt want to incorporate a supercharger for the 325i and 330i is due to the fact of the cost. the additional testing R & D and in addition to the warranty, the price would be to high to the point where the more better route to go was to never by a 325i or a 330i in the first place but instead an M3 since thats the similar power you are getting.

they've actually try marketing a supercharger for the regular 3 series back in the e36 days, but it wasnt as popular. if you're interested its still for sale for on the dinan website but for the cost, the difference is that of an e36 m3.

[BWMguy206]

i spoke with steve dinan a while ago about that, the reason why they didnt want to incorporate a supercharger for the 325i and 330i is due to the fact of the cost. the additional testing R & D and in addition to the warranty, the price would be to high to the point where the more better route to go was to never by a 325i or a 330i in the first place but instead an M3 since thats the similar power you are getting.

they've actually try marketing a supercharger for the regular 3 series back in the e36 days, but it wasnt as popular. if you're interested its still for sale for on the dinan website but for the cost, the difference is that of an e36 m3.

Ah.. thanks for good info!

[Ervin87]

i spoke with steve dinan a while ago about that, the reason why they didnt want to incorporate a supercharger for the 325i and 330i is due to the fact of the cost. the additional testing R & D and in addition to the warranty, the price would be to high to the point where the more better route to go was to never by a 325i or a 330i in the first place but instead an M3 since thats the similar power you are getting.

they've actually try marketing a supercharger for the regular 3 series back in the e36 days, but it wasnt as popular. if you're interested its still for sale for on the dinan website but for the cost, the difference is that of an e36 m3.

Exactly.

[loknaster]

can someone clarify the whole "they can only void it if the added part is the cause of the problem" thing as well? thanks for the info.

oh and i didnt buy an M3 because i wanted a 330ci to make unique and such. out here you see a TON of M3's, but not many nicely modded 330ci's

[russ330]

I would have thought that some web searching would have turned up some info, but I guess not.

In brief (as it's supposed to work) it is up to the dealership to prove that a certain aftermarket part caused a failure in the vehicle. Example, you purchase a supercharger and your window regulator fails. Now simply because you have a SC doesn't mean that any warranty action is now void. It would still be up to the dealership to replace said window regulator. Think of the car as having many warranties as opposed to one for the entire car.

Lastly, if you're looking to create a unique 330ci, you've come to the right place. :) There's tons of amazing cars on this site, just hang out for a while and look around. I'm sure you'll find inspiration. :thumbup:

[clean-m-tech330]

[QUOTE=loknaster;4814655]the superchargers they use on their M3 packages (or any package i beleive) are Vortech superchargers.



Vortech makes a 330ci supercharger, but Dinan wont sell it...why?


Simple there's just not enough profit in the s/c kit for Dinan and by the time you're finished paying what i call the "dinan adjustment" it'd be far better of a deal to go with a proven asa kit or even a vf kit- Dinan just doesnt want to jump into a market where it wouldn't be able to compete and still make a large enough profit- period

[schon weg]

S54 = iron block, forged internals

M54B25 = aluminum block (with cast rods)
M54B30 = aluminum block



In addition to the reasons already mentioned in this thread, I would assume Dinan doesn't want to push the aluminum block.

[BWMguy206]

S54 = iron block, forged internals

M54B25 = aluminum block (with cast rods)
M54B30 = aluminum block



In addition to the reasons already mentioned in this thread, I would assume Dinan doesn't want to push the aluminum block.

The S54 has cast pistons but rods and crankshaft are forged.

The M54B30 has cast pistons but forged rods and crankshaft. The crank also comes from the S52 3.2L engine.

The 2.5L really has cast rods? Yikes.