$1000 brand new Turbo kit

[onepeon]

How much work would this be to install this into an 2000 E46 328i?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-92-98-E36-M3-320-325-328-L6-T3-t4-custom-turbo-kit_W0QQitemZ320152086151QQihZ011QQcategoryZ33742QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Other then the downpipe welding,

What else do I need? What would be the best way to control the fuel... Adj Fuel Regulator? S-AFC?

Turboing a car shouldn't be that hard to do...

The flange from an E36 should bolt right up.

<img src="http://images.andale.com/f2/116/107/27377173/2007/4/18/DSC03804.JPG">

[grzes12n]

:eek:

[amitv85]

you're kidding....right?

[aggieE46]

I'm sure it's easy. Just do buy it, put it on, and let us know. We'll all have turbo'd E46s within a month!

[abeaujuin]

The hardest and timing consuming part of the install is removing the headers/Cat.

[travisbickle]

<snip>
Turboing a car shouldn't be that hard to do...


LOL! That line comes straight from the book of famous last words.


In all seriousness, that's a collection of parts and raw materials. For example, I see no mounting brackets for the intercooler and none of the pipes have been cut to length and bead rolled on the ends.

Also, do not underestimate the scope of tuning an engine. Many ambitious projects have been derailed in the 11th hour by poor tuning. For tuning I'd consider the AEM F/IC

[amitv85]

I'd suggest not using pipping that looks like it belongs on a jungle gym.

[BreakMyWallet]

im sure any welding/exhaust shop could cut/bend the piping no problem. if you can find someone to tune it well enough i would definately look into buying it

[AzCamel]

the biggest and most expensive part i see is the tuning, your probabaly going to use a piggy back AEM unit for that and tuning for turbo set up is a B*TCH, esp if the tuner does not know how to use the Vanos. your going to easly spend as much or more on tuning the kit.

[madchef]

You get what you pay for unfortunately

[MatthewLFD]

eBay turbos are known to be crap. Those things have infested and plagued the DSM community for awhile now with mixed results. Some people saw bearing failure within a week of installing the turbo. Another split his turbo in half after the first time he boosted it, only to find out they glued the compressor housing to the center cardridge...wtf. The exhaust manifold is another place where cheap manufacturing bears its ugly head. The temperature extremes a turbocharged exhaust manifold sees is incredible, and will crack a poorly manufactured manifold in no time.

With the cost of the M52/M54 engines, I wouldn't even put one of those on my friend's bimmer.

That being said, eBay is wonderful for intercoolers, pipes, and have even seen some decent external wastegates that hold up the same as the expensive TiAL ones.

And as others have said, tuning is one of the most important parts of turboed car. I think the S-AFC is crap in my old hardly computerized DSM, I would'nt dream of using that in an E46.

[OCswedishM3]

Im putting that on my car tomorrow...

[m3rxn]

good bargain. what kinda #s

[malina]

Im putting that on my car tomorrow...

:lmao:

[jpinto8587]

can this be run on an E46 02 328i?????

[ritos530i]

Install the damn thing and tell us the story later. You are setting yourself up for failure by making a post like this because people are going to have their say and discourage you from doing what you plan to do in the first place.
I have heard the same stories about supposedly high quality kits that do the same thing so there is no real way to tell but to try it out for yourself. What may happen on my car with this kit is surely going to be different on you car.

[maxnathan]

Good luck on your adventure:thumbsup:

There are a few people here who have had turbos installed - best try to contact them for valuble advice! eg Pei ( aka Oshin )........

[Volkswagengolf]

umm... :eek: does the e36 turbo manifold fit on the e46.. :hmm:

[billetboy]

The E36 manifold has a totally different bolt pattern compared to the E46 so don't buy this kit if you are planning to boost an E46. Why not call HPF and buy a manifold and turbo from them?. Remember also that your stock intake is not going to work as it is plastic and will break easily under boost. Use AEM for fuel, intercooler, exhaust downpipe, wastegate, custom fab some charge air pipes, add BOV to same,

Now all you have to do is fire up this easily assembled collection of parts and watch the factory computer throw a fit because you ("and I") have no idea how it works and how the boost is going to affect its behaviour.

Final step is to drag your car over to HPF and ask them to fix all the problems you have created.

Final actual cost of this "budget" approach.

$16,000

[aggieE46]

Yeah, because HPF is the only company out there that can tune a turbo'd car.... :tsk:

The E36 manifold has a totally different bolt pattern compared to the E46 so don't buy this kit if you are planning to boost an E46. Why not call HPF and buy a manifold and turbo from them?. Remember also that your stock intake is not going to work as it is plastic and will break easily under boost. Use AEM for fuel, intercooler, exhaust downpipe, wastegate, custom fab some charge air pipes, add BOV to same,

Now all you have to do is fire up this easily assembled collection of parts and watch the factory computer throw a fit because you ("and I") have no idea how it works and how the boost is going to affect its behaviour.

Final step is to drag your car over to HPF and ask them to fix all the problems you have created.

Final actual cost of this "budget" approach.

$16,000

[Activ3]

The E36 manifold has a totally different bolt pattern compared to the E46 so don't buy this kit if you are planning to boost an E46. Why not call HPF and buy a manifold and turbo from them?. Remember also that your stock intake is not going to work as it is plastic and will break easily under boost. Use AEM for fuel, intercooler, exhaust downpipe, wastegate, custom fab some charge air pipes, add BOV to same,

Now all you have to do is fire up this easily assembled collection of parts and watch the factory computer throw a fit because you ("and I") have no idea how it works and how the boost is going to affect its behaviour.

Final step is to drag your car over to HPF and ask them to fix all the problems you have created.

Final actual cost of this "budget" approach.

$16,000


Actually the e36 exhaust manifold bolt pattern is IDENTICAL to the e46 one :)


Do you mean the intake manifold or actual filter housing? In any case, only the manifold will be under pressure, and it's already proved to hold boost by the hundreds of SC kits and few non-m turbo kits out there running. The filter housing isn't even under boost, it'd be under vacum.

[billetboy]

Ah! Sorry, I was thinking M3 which is different. I still wouldn't buy that kit though. The manifold will be poor quality and will almost certainly crack very quickly (they glow red hot you know). I'm sure there must be a better quality manifold out there for not too much money. Buy a decent brand of turbo such as Turbonetics (best warranty out there). After that you just need pipes and intercooler which are fine off of Ebay.

As for tuning I'm sure there are some good shops but I have seen so many friends go to so called expert tuners with their cars only to have them pay a fortune to have them run worse than when they went in. I'd find out what you are doing with your tuning before I worried about hardware which is actually the easy part.