HPF Stage 2 Methanol "New" Pictures and Results

[HPF Chris]

I took some pictures of our final production methanol pieces today. We assembled one of the brackets off the car for production pictures. This bracket installs underneath the bumper and wraps around the fog lights, our intercooler piping and clears the front bumper support. All of the methanol components come pre-mounted to the bracket from us so it can simply be installed and plugged in. Since the factory horns were in the way of our bracket, we created a mounting location for each horn and etched the picture of the horn directly on our polished bracket so they have a perfect location and the horn wires require no extension.

We utilize an FJO modified methanol pump and an FJO methanol fogger. This methanol fogger is unique in that it creates an extremely dense fog by pressurizing the methanol against a wall. This almost instantly vaporizes the methanol providing an extremely cool "high octane" intake charge.

Our methanol system is automatic. No flipping switches or uploading maps is required. When methanol is detected, our system automatically allows the turbo to provide more boost, increases timing to benefit from the higher effective octane, and drops fuel to the injectors to compensate for the methanol fuel creating a very safe A:F ratio.

Everything is plug-n-play. The methanol system plugs directly into our EMS without any cutting or wiring, and the hard parts bolt to factory mounting points.

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/methanolbracket/methanolbracket1.jpg

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/methanolbracket/methanolbracket2.jpg

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/methanolbracket/methanolbracket3.jpg

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/methanolbracket/MethanolBracketMounted1.jpg

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/methanolbracket/MethanolBracketMounted2.jpg

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/methanolbracket/MethanolBracketAndFogger.jpg

Here are some pictures of the production methanol tanks. We're just waiting for them to arrive. For testing and early stage 2 customers, we're using standard methanol tanks that can be temporarily mounted and replaced with our new ones when they arrive.

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/stage2/methanoltank1.jpg

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/stage2/methanoltank2.jpg

Here's the port on the intake manifold where the methanol is fogged into the intake air stream. To make sure the methanol fogger is screwed into the correct port we've labelled each port directly into the casting. With no bends to the intake runners themselves and the location of the methanol port directly in the center of the airstream closest to the neck, equal distribution to each runner is achieved.

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/methanolbracket/MethanolIntakePort.jpg

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/intakemanifoldhksbov/HPFM3Intake6.jpg

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/intakemanifoldhksbov/HPFM3Intake2.jpg

Our methanol kit places the methanol pump and the methanol electronics right in front of the car underneath the front bumper. It also places the "methanol" tank in front of the fire-wall on the drivers side. Keeping methanol out of the cabin of the car was important to us for safety reasons, and the short lines from the tank to the pump and on to the fogger allow methanol to come on and off almost instantly. Here are some pictures of the location of the electronics and pump on a "non-polished" bracket.

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/stage2/methanol4.jpg

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/stage2/methanol1.jpg

Here's a dyno graph of Tommy's M3 on stage 2. It shows all the various boost levels that are achieved with the 4 maps our stage 1&2 kits provide. This also shows how methanol can greatly benefit a high octane boosted motor when low octane fuels are used.

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/dynos/TommyPowerUncorrected.gif

[TaZaM3]

Great stuff man!

[///JTM3]

How would you guys want just got the Meth Injection Kit... brackets, pump, hardware.. ect...

[OCswedishM3]

Chris i think you got a great methanol kit....maybe you guys can market and sell just the kit to some owners who already have F.I...Just a thought, think it could be a great hit

[///AaronJtun3d]

craaaaazy!! :bow:

on pump gas ur ///M3 is already a MONSTER!
on race + methanol......... :evil:

[tankm3]

Great stuff Chris. :thumbsup: Every time I see the design/build quality of these parts, makes me wish it could All be visually displayed.
I am told I should be getting the car tomorrow afternoon sometime!
It was gonna be late Sunday or Monday, but the driver is changing his route to get me the car back in time for the meet/event on Sunday. :excited:

I'll keep ya posted.

[HPF Chris]

craaaaazy!!

on pump gas ur ///M3 is already a MONSTER!
on race + methanol.........

Thanks. It is amazing to have that much power on pump gas. I love driving with stage 2.


Chris i think you got a great methanol kit....maybe you guys can market and sell just the kit to some owners who already have F.I...Just a thought, think it could be a great hit

I'd love to do just that, however everything is controlled by our EMS and the EMS is expensive. There are other "generic" kits available for the FI guys and they'll just have to work it in with their electronics. :)

Great stuff Chris. :thumbsup: Every time I see the design/build quality of these parts, makes me wish it could All be visually displayed.
I am told I should be getting the car tomorrow afternoon sometime!
It was gonna be late Sunday or Monday, but the driver is changing his route to get me the car back in time for the meet/event on Sunday. :excited:

I'll keep ya posted.

Thanks Tank... I'm glad that driver is changing his route to get you your car "as promised" on Saturday. David pulled some strings to hold the transport company to it. Your car has race fuel in it, so get some more 110 leaded and have fun! Good luck at the event.


Great stuff man!

Thanks Vic...

I forgot to post pictures of the backside of the bracket which also has several components mounted to it. On the backside you can see where the harness simply plugs right into the weatherproof connector. The space under the bumper is so limited that we took advantage of every last millimeter. :) Here they are...

Back Side

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/methanolbracket/methanolbracketmounted3.jpg

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/methanolbracket/methanolbracketmounted4.jpg

Front Side

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/methanolbracket/methanolbracketmounted1.jpg

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/methanolbracket/methanolbracketmounted2.jpg

[MarvelPhx]

That setup looks beautiful! Laser cut bracket?

[jtrejo]

very nice

[eurotekm3]

meth is nice....

[Disco_Monkey]

Wow. VERY nice.

[supersickbimmer]

Oh man do I want to upgrade.:banghead: I just spent big $$$ on my csl C/F trunck, GTR C/F side skirts and WP pro 15.4" 12 piston BBK with 15" 6 piston rears. Maybe the wife will let me do 1 more mod?:hmm:

I"ll be calling you guy's soon Chris, Great job BTW.:thumbsup:

[Evil Twin Rob]

*****IN! It will be mine!

[r6vr6]

Looks OEM very nice quality piece.

[mdsonicTT]

think we can all agree this sets a new bar standard, etching/CNC work is impressive, creative!

keep up the good work!!

[HPF Chris]

think we can all agree this sets a new bar standard, etching/CNC work is impressive, creative!

keep up the good work!!

Thanks... :)


*****IN! It will be mine!

Rob... bring your car over and let's install it!!!


Oh man do I want to upgrade. I just spent big $$$ on my csl C/F trunck, GTR C/F side skirts and WP pro 15.4" 12 piston BBK with 15" 6 piston rears. Maybe the wife will let me do 1 more mod?

I"ll be calling you guy's soon Chris, Great job BTW.

Thanks Fabio... Put race fuel in your M3 and take your wife for a ride. Have her imagine nearly that much power all the time at pump gas prices! :)


That setup looks beautiful! Laser cut bracket?

Thanks... Yes, laser cut and laser etched.


Wow. VERY nice.

Thanks. :)

Take care,
Chris.

[turboaddiction]

Thanks Fabio... Put race fuel in your M3 and take your wife for a ride. Have her imagine nearly that much power all the time at pump gas prices! :)

That's a damn good salesman right there! :str8pimpi

[HPF Chris]

Sorry about the delay in getting everyone their tanks. Here's the mould for the methanol tanks. Now that we've switched suppliers for the plastic injection we should be able to get the finished product very soon.

Here's a picture of the mould.

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/stage2/MethanolTankMould.jpg

[Lay2Low]

Wow! :yikes::yikes:

[LagunaBlau///M3]

:thumbsup: nice job chirs on this kit. everything is so clean and tucked away.

[jtrejo]

how do you turn on the methanol and how much does it use and how much does it cost and where do you buy methanol

[jstaylor]

how do you turn on the methanol - the meth kit automatically senses when there is meth in the tank and uses it as needed when running boost

and how much does it use - a gallon tank full is supposed to last a month on average

and how much does it cost - not much, ten bucks or so a gallon

and where do you buy methanol - you can buy from various online distributors or here's link for locations by state http://www.enginerunup.com/shop.php/where-to-buy-methanol-/i_8.html

[jtrejo]

where will it mount? and thanks for respone jstaylor, and are you the vert?

[jstaylor]

The tank goes in front of the firewall on the drivers side. Yep, I'm the vert.

[jtrejo]

or passenger side u mean right? where the aem cpu is?

[jstaylor]

No, I believe it will be on the drivers side. That's where the components are located in the bumper and they wanted to keep the runs from the tank to the controller to the fogger as close as possible. Here's the quote from Chris: "Our methanol kit places the methanol pump and the methanol electronics right in front of the car underneath the front bumper. It also places the "methanol" tank in front of the fire-wall on the drivers side. Keeping methanol out of the cabin of the car was important to us for safety reasons, and the short lines from the tank to the pump and on to the fogger allow methanol to come on and off almost instantly."

[jtrejo]

yeah but from the looks of the tank it looks like it was made to fit passenger side opening, i guess we will wait to hear from chris

[tankm3]

yeah but from the looks of the tank it looks like it was made to fit passenger side opening, i guess we will wait to hear from chris

I can confirm where the tank will go since I was at the shop and they showed me a prototype and exactly where it mounts. It was formed to fit and wrap around the bulge that the strut brace mounts to.
it will look oem for sure.

Just to the right of the oil dipstick, there is a nub that comes out of the contoured bulge that houses your shocks/suspension. it will mount to that and look like it belongs there.
Correct me if I'm wrong Chris..

[jtrejo]

how do you keep your engine bay so clean with the gtr hood? mine is always filthy? and what should i clean the motor with?

[tankm3]

how do you keep your engine bay so clean with the gtr hood? mine is always filthy? and what should i clean the motor with?

Lol...its not my D.D., so its not that difficult for me to begin with.
I do wipe it down after every wash with a damp towel, followed by a dry one.

[hi its me alec]

good god tommy... your engine looks insane :str8pimpi

[Macho3]

one day my engine will look like tommys