Aa M3 Vs Z06

[///JTM3]

Can this thread please not get ruined by M3 haters... Thank you..

This Z06 owner called me out on an another forum.. I showed up with some back up and shut him up..... Thanks for the support guys... You know who you are..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj7tPOZBhq0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDT5gFOp38s

[Mliner]

You know how we do

[GodSendsDeath]

Nice guys, how do you think you guys would do against the new c6 Z06? And his was stock?

[///JTM3]

I think we can keep up with.... but we would need a lil help from a 50 or 75 shot to beat it...

[OCswedishM3]

I think we can keep up with.... but we would need a lil help from a 50 or 75 shot to beat it...

Not true...It can be done on boost alone

[///JTM3]

iv only heard storys about the C6 Z06.. Never seen on in action...

[SoCalTTZ06]

Let's have some runs tonight . We can set the record straight I have been witness to AA cars being pulled on by exhaust'd z06s':argue:

[tankm3]

I dont know about anyone else, but this footage is terrible. (no offense)
How about some EARLY morning runs so we can see what the heck is going on in these videos.

I would think you'd pull much more on a stock C5 Z06 as well.
Whats that got 405hp at the crank?

Again, it just seemed too hard to see what was going on and I hope you guys can do this again.

*Most importantly,...BE SAFE!:thumbsup:

[tankm3]

It also looks like Z06 let off throttle?

[TaZaM3]

I dont know about anyone else, but this footage is terrible. (no offense)
How about some EARLY morning runs so we can see what the heck is going on in these videos.

I would think you'd pull much more on a stock C5 Z06 as well.
Whats that got 405hp at the crank?

Again, it just seemed too hard to see what was going on and I hope you guys can do this again.

*Most importantly,...BE SAFE!:thumbsup:

We rather do these at nights, the video is just there to prove the outcome.

The C5 zo6 is light and it makes good TQ. Some of them are freaks, the one in the video is the fastest stock zo6 weve ever seen. Regardless, the Zo6 was taking the jump everytime, the M3's were playing catch up. JTM3's shifting was off that night as well. If they went any faster they would have started pulling good.

And remember these are pump gas runs with all cars.

It also looks like Z06 let off throttle?

It did at the end of the race, it didnt let off anytime during the race.


Heres a video of a modded Z06 vs me (supercharged) at a track 2 years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-IiQuWPHP8

12.4 @ 120mph vs 13.7 @ 106mph

[tankm3]

We rather do these at nights, the video is just there to prove the outcome.

The C5 zo6 is light and it makes good TQ. Some of them are freaks, the one in the video is the fastest stock zo6 weve ever seen. Regardless, the Zo6 was taking the jump everytime, the M3's were playing catch up. JTM3's shifting was off that night as well. If they went any faster they would have started pulling good.

And remember these are pump gas runs with all cars.



It did at the end of the race, it didnt let off anytime during the race.


Heres a video of a modded Z06 vs me (supercharged) at a track 2 years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-IiQuWPHP8

12.4 @ 120mph vs 13.7 @ 106mph

Were you there Vik?
Didnt know that about C5's, but you can clearly see he's getting the jump by jumping the gun on the horns.

I myself will be doing runs early in the A.M., with less traffic and clear view of roads and all. Just my preference I guess, and I feel safer to do given those factors.

B.t.w., videos not working.

[TaZaM3]

Were you there Vik?
Didnt know that about C5's, but you can clearly see he's getting the jump by jumping the gun on the horns.

I myself will be doing runs early in the A.M., with less traffic and clear view of roads and all. Just my preference I guess, and I feel safer to do given those factors.

B.t.w., videos not working.

Yes i was there, the Zo6 was jumping the races everytime. I was in JT's car, the Zo6 would hit it, then the M3 would hit it, literally a second delay. Dont click play on the video just click around it to open youtube. The video embedding is disabled its not letting it play, this forum doesnt allow URL posting videos anymore.

[jtrejo]

im down for some runs my nos is working now i was there that night and ran drew i got smoked but my nos was cutting on an off

[///JTM3]

Sorry we couldnt run bro... But yeah ill be down to run... well setup another meet soon.. .

[SoCalTTZ06]

I dont know about anyone else, but this footage is terrible. (no offense)
How about some EARLY morning runs so we can see what the heck is going on in these videos.

I would think you'd pull much more on a stock C5 Z06 as well.
Whats that got 405hp at the crank?

Again, it just seemed too hard to see what was going on and I hope you guys can do this again.

*Most importantly,...BE SAFE!:thumbsup:


At least we have a person here with 20/20 vision.:hi:

[TaZaM3]

Dont forget Drew's video as well from that night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McFkyBbNc9c

And here is Drew racing a 460rwhp C5 zo6.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf1mrZPNp0c

[DLSJ5]

That Z06 was very fast for being "stock," I'll take the owner's word for it but based on my run a month ago against that highly modded C5 Z06, it sure seemend to have something, all good. Karl and J, Stage 3 S4's, took a C6 Z06 by a CLth months ago, but they're both a little faster now then they were then.

Vik here was my favorite run from that night. :) 2nd gear rolls, hanging with Karl's S4 and the SG 996TT up to 4th gear was nice, had to let off early, the 996TT would usually pull in 4th on up by 2.5 CLths', of course you annihilated all of us. Like gone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm8myfLucPY

[SoCalTTZ06]

We rather do these at nights, the video is just there to prove the outcome.

The C5 zo6 is light and it makes good TQ. Some of them are freaks, the one in the video is the fastest stock zo6 weve ever seen. Regardless, the Zo6 was taking the jump everytime, the M3's were playing catch up. JTM3's shifting was off that night as well. If they went any faster they would have started pulling good.

And remember these are pump gas runs with all cars.



It did at the end of the race, it didnt let off anytime during the race.


Heres a video of a modded Z06 vs me (supercharged) at a track 2 years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-IiQuWPHP8

12.4 @ 120mph vs 13.7 @ 106mph



This is right before the stout AA stage 3 kit threw a belt and severed the radiator hose. lol . wow impressive 100k into a M3 and 12.4 @ 120 weight reduction. that is M Pressiv

[TaZaM3]

That Z06 was very fast for being "stock," I'll take the owner's word for it but based on my run a month ago against that highly modded C5 Z06, it sure seemend to have something, all good. Karl and J, Stage 3 S4's, took a C6 Z06 by a CLth months ago, but they're both a little faster now then they were then.

Vik here was my favorite run from that night. :) 2nd gear rolls, hanging with Karl's S4 and the SG 996TT up to 4th gear was nice, had to let off early, the 996TT would usually pull in 4th on up by 2.5 CLths', of course you annihilated all of us. Like gone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm8myfLucPY

Drew your car is a monster! Your car did awesome with the Porsche and the Audi as well. Very impressive!

[GodSendsDeath]

But I am talking C6 z06. We need to put power out put to power out put. I love the E46 M3 but the vett will dust it. Too bad we got no vett owners willing to race here. Sorry I am not trying to stir nothing up just car talk. lol.

[douglas]

i was sent here from the Z board to tell you that your cars suck and they are really slow

[douglas]

not me man.. i love the M3

[TaZaM3]

not me man.. i love the M3

I know buddy, just throwing out there.

[TaZaM3]

Stock M3 vs C5 Z06..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=569J1-KMqeY

[SoCalTTZ06]

We have been trying to set up a GTG all day . Been on the phone with
//JT M3 , called Taza M3 and nothing but a voicemail. We are trying to do some comparisons and have a great GTG , We want to see the self proclaimed " fasted and most powerful M3 " in action. We dont hate on you guys , but in Alice and Wonderland M3s' beat everything. Now I am not trying top Stir things up . This is just a attempt to get the GTG going.:argue:

[stimpee]

Just for reference, to understand the benefit of low/midrange torque, I raced a guy in west chester PA just over a year ago in a C5 Z06. He had exhaust, but I am not sure what else. He was a friend of the guys I was up there at a meet with, but I don't remember too many details.

In any case, we did multiple runs from about 50mph up to 115-120.

I was running my E36M3/4 with my twin screw on it, at approx 11.5 psi, but without the level III water injection that we offer, so I was running approx 6 degrees of timing advance at the high end, on 93 pump gas. My car dynoed in that condition right around 355whp and 322rwtq (with >300rwtq from about 2krpm to 6000rpm, then fell off a bit at the top end).

We were pretty much dead even on every run until about 115 mph, at that point, the Z06 started creeping away, but I hit my comfort limit under the conditions and shut down around 120.

We also did a run from a dig, and he got a better launch, but I maintained his 3/4 car length or so jump up thru the top of 2nd gear, then I mis-shifted into 5th and it was over.

Just to show you that with the torque, I could run with him all day long up to 120mph, but above that he would run away.

I had similar runs with an M6, and I actually pulled on the M6 3-4 times, but again we stopped around 115, so I don't know if he would have come back after that.

The C6 Z06 will likely "destroy" a centrifugally SC'd E46M3, at least anywhere below 120 mph or so. Until the hp becomes more of a factor. It just has too much torque for the E46 to be able to stick with it at anything below ludicrous speed IMHO...

My boss has one, and is trapping 124-125 mph bone stock, and running mid 11's on stock tires. Others have done better than that, and there are a decent number of people running in the 11's comfortably with them.

I havent seen many (any?) non-juiced centrifugally supercharged M3s in the 11's at all.

FWIW, My E36 ran 12.302 @ 111.xx as my best ET, and 12.380 @ 113.37 as my best MPH on my first run ever. That was with bias ply cheater slicks on the back.

[DLSJ5]

Just for reference, to understand the benefit of low/midrange torque, I raced a guy in west chester PA just over a year ago in a C5 Z06. He had exhaust, but I am not sure what else. He was a friend of the guys I was up there at a meet with, but I don't remember too many details.

We have ran a few C5 Z06's this one was faster than the other stock one by far.

In any case, we did multiple runs from about 50mph up to 115-120..

We went from a 3rd gear roll approx 65-75 MPH starts not the best powerband for the M3 to start at the bottom of 3rd, 50 MPH starts and we would have pulled earlier and farther by 115.

I had similar runs with an M6, and I actually pulled on the M6 3-4 times, but again we stopped around 115, so I don't know if he would have come back after that..

This is tough to believe, as M6's are def faster than C5 Z06's, but results may var, yet it proves how fast C5 Z06's can be. This C5 Z06 we ran, has said he's beaten an M6, and ran even or pulled on a new ls3 vette up to 140 before the Ls3 started to pull, those new ls3 vette's have trapped 119! So this C5 Z06 is an anomoly it seems.

The C6 Z06 will likely "destroy" a centrifugally SC'd E46M3, at least anywhere below 120 mph or so. Until the hp becomes more of a factor. It just has too much torque for the E46 to be able to stick with it at anything below ludicrous speed IMHO....

Depends on the M3, what boost etc, OC Swedish beat one. Again in the vid I posted with the Stage 4 Porsche 996TT and S4, I ran about even with my buddies 475AWHP S4, and he pulled on a C6 Z06 by a CLth, up to 115 or so then the Z06 creeped up and it stayed there tell they let off. The S4 is actually faster now, so I don't think the C6 Z06 would destroy me, but I wouldn't bet against it, lol, they are monsters no doubt. But that Stage 4 996TT is a monster and he didn't walk away until midway through 4th. :thumbsup:

My boss has one, and is trapping 124-125 mph bone stock, and running mid 11's on stock tires. Others have done better than that, and there are a decent number of people running in the 11's comfortably with them..

No doubt they are beasts, but the C5 Z06 that I ran with 460WHP is about on par with a C6 Z06 and when I ran him I was slower, he started to pull in 4th before we shut down and he was even with that S4 that night, as I am now. He trapped 118 at a track with a DA of 3000'+ that day, it goes uphill as well, lol. If he ran at sea level, 123+ traps would be doable.

Here's my run against him a few months back, and I'm faster now. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf1mrZPNp0c


I havent seen many (any?) non-juiced centrifugally supercharged M3s in the 11's at all..

Simple reason, the traps are there, just not the 60'.

FWIW, My E36 ran 12.302 @ 111.xx as my best ET, and 12.380 @ 113.37 as my best MPH on my first run ever. That was with bias ply cheater slicks on the back.

Excellent times Bro, stock C5 Z06's have trapped 115, BTW. :thumbsup:

[stimpee]

My boss trapped over 117 on a bone stock C5 Z06 (and 11.8ET with drag tires) as well.

I think my car was capable of trapping faster than the 113 that I hit at the track that night, it was just the best I could do.

I was shocked the night I beat the M6 as well. It was hotter than hell that night, so maybe the computer nannies in the M6 had it turned way down.

What I was basically trying to state, just in a very unclear manner, was that you should not underestimate the value of "area under the curve" or low end torque. The SCd M3s have lots of HP, but are still relatively low on torque compared to some of these other cars, so roll-ons at various speeds may not put the M3 in their best light...

[DLSJ5]

My boss trapped over 117 on a bone stock C5 Z06 (and 11.8ET with drag tires) as well.

I think my car was capable of trapping faster than the 113 that I hit at the track that night, it was just the best I could do.

I was shocked the night I beat the M6 as well. It was hotter than hell that night, so maybe the computer nannies in the M6 had it turned way down.

What I was basically trying to state, just in a very unclear manner, was that you should not underestimate the value of "area under the curve" or low end torque. The SCd M3s have lots of HP, but are still relatively low on torque compared to some of these other cars, so roll-ons at various speeds may not put the M3 in their best light...


Totally agree!

[MSpired]

Good times guys. Here are some more vids from that night:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HZ7mfXWwThs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCWlJT5yF1M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aVCL0M4e0A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niptenHLVks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOKRwWeSH40

[brusso]

either my car was not running great or I cant drive .The z06 jumped me at about 60 mph and my car was shifting like crap. Major lag on the shifts. Thanks for posting it up mike......

[GodSendsDeath]

Wow... I am sorry but that Doug guys is a considerd a idiot on the Z boards. Again sorry, hey Taz are you anywhere near SoCal, there is a fella there with a Z that would love to run your M3 it be a cool video two 1000hp cars racing.

[AmiricanMade]

Good Vids

[paranormal]

cool stuff

but heres a race with a c5 z06 with a stroker package heads cams and i/h/e.. puts down like 500+ rwhp I dont remember the exact number

first one z06 gets jump couldnt hear the honks.. second one both at same time from headlight flashes from behind

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/paranormalg35/th_MOV00041-1.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/paranormalg35/?action=view&current=MOV00041-1.flv)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/paranormalg35/th_MOV00037.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/paranormalg35/?action=view&current=MOV00037.flv)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/paranormalg35/th_MOV00049.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/paranormalg35/?action=view&current=MOV00049.flv)

[paranormal]

and i got a c6 z06 vett win too but my friend who video that one sucked. lol

[GodSendsDeath]

Taz again I am not sure whats the deal, most of the people there are pretty cool. You know your M takes 90% of the Zs and only a few can compete or beat you car. I thought of a friendly car to car comparison thats all no beef.

[TaZaM3]

You're stating the obvious. Anything with 800+whp won't have traction at 50-60mph. Even with god himself behind the wheel :str8pimpi.

It'll be sick race though 800whp Z vs 800whp M. :thumbsup:

I got some sick tires in today. :4ngie:

[AmiricanMade]

Did I miss something jsut skimming through? You guys are trying to meet up to fight over car bullshit? lolllllll

I thought you guys wanted to race.


My 300hp vs his 1000hp M? Maybe if he gave me a couple mile head-start

[TaZaM3]

Did I miss something jsut skimming through? You guys are trying to meet up to fight over car bullshit? lolllllll

I thought you guys wanted to race.

lol You did bro, but thanks. Whats going on tonight, what cars?

[MSpired]

I got some sick tires in today. :4ngie:

Niceeeeee. Now let's have a CIVIL race between the two cars. :thumbsup:

[AmiricanMade]

You're stating the obvious. Anything with 800+whp won't have traction at 50-60mph. Even with god himself behind the wheel :str8pimpi.

It'll be sick race though 800whp Z vs 800whp M. :thumbsup:

That's all i said on the Z forum...and i guess Taz took that the wrong way.

[DLSJ5]

cool stuff

but heres a race with a c5 z06 with a stroker package heads cams and i/h/e.. puts down like 500+ rwhp I dont remember the exact number

first one z06 gets jump couldnt hear the honks.. second one both at same time from headlight flashes from behind

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/paranormalg35/th_MOV00041-1.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/paranormalg35/?action=view&current=MOV00041-1.flv)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/paranormalg35/th_MOV00037.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/paranormalg35/?action=view&current=MOV00037.flv)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/paranormalg35/th_MOV00049.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y291/paranormalg35/?action=view&current=MOV00049.flv)


Impressive, good kills!:thumbsup:

[DLSJ5]

Here's the runs with the 997TT last night, there's more vids from his car as well as many others that will be posted soon. :thumbsup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKSrvKTlXkE

[coolusername]

damn you guys have some sick ass m3s! yall have some fun times in CA.

[AmiricanMade]

Nice. Post the Vid of 6speed if you get a chance. Great kill man.

[///JTM3]

damn you guys have some sick ass m3s! yall have some fun times in CA.

Were bored.... there is nothin else to do out here.... :craig:

[fastestm3]

Ok, I dont understand here. People either love or hate Taza. He seems to be respectable for all the sh*t he gets. Honestly, you have to take it for what it is, there is no AA e46 m3 that will beat even a stock c6 zo6, I got both, anytime anyone wants to challenge it, bring it. Now Taza might have 1000hp, but a c6 zo6 with heads, cams, and full exhaust work, with a little shot of juice will rape that car, no matter the rwhp, sorry. The c6 zo6 with a bad launch goes 10.3 at like 145mph, no juice, thats my boys with the head cams and exhaust, not even the juice. Now Taza, sorry, but why is everyone on your nuts? You know how I know AA, I saw your car built, anyone can drop a car off with like 50k, and say build me a beast, with enough money, everything in the world is possible. I built a 2001 330ci, with the same stuff as your motor, but its s/c'ed(big mistake), and AA is having a world of trouble tuning it, but seriously, whats with all the hype, your car isnt g-d. Now this isnt attacking anyone, this is just reading this thread, and realizing that its a whole heep of crap. My g-d people, get over it, there is ALWAYS someone faster. Keep to the subject, AA e46 m3s vs. zo6s. For a bmw Tazas car is rediculous, but there are others that are well equipped too, so everyone should be civilized, meet up and race.
PS
There is no 350z thats going to beat Taza

[///JTM3]

I dont think anyone mentioned an AA M3 beating a C6 Z06.... They were talkin about C5... and the posibility of keeping up with a C6 Z06..

And the only reason people do and should repect TaZa is becuase hes been involed in the BMW FI comunity almost more than anyone here... Hes gone through all the different stages of AA and has alot of trial and error experiances to share with other BMW FI enthusiasts....

I dont know it its jelousy, hate, or ignorance, but some people take him the wrong way and start labeling him with stereo types...

[tim330i]

Knock off the personal attacks! If I see any more personal attacks I'm going to ban people till Monday. I'm on vacation enjoying my Thanksgiving and don't have time for this crap right now.

Go enjoy the holiday!

Tim

[TaZaM3]

Ok, I dont understand here. People either love or hate Taza. He seems to be respectable for all the sh*t he gets. Honestly, you have to take it for what it is, there is no AA e46 m3 that will beat even a stock c6 zo6, I got both, anytime anyone wants to challenge it, bring it. Now Taza might have 1000hp, but a c6 zo6 with heads, cams, and full exhaust work, with a little shot of juice will rape that car, no matter the rwhp, sorry. The c6 zo6 with a bad launch goes 10.3 at like 145mph, no juice, thats my boys with the head cams and exhaust, not even the juice. Now Taza, sorry, but why is everyone on your nuts? You know how I know AA, I saw your car built, anyone can drop a car off with like 50k, and say build me a beast, with enough money, everything in the world is possible. I built a 2001 330ci, with the same stuff as your motor, but its s/c'ed(big mistake), and AA is having a world of trouble tuning it, but seriously, whats with all the hype, your car isnt g-d. Now this isnt attacking anyone, this is just reading this thread, and realizing that its a whole heep of crap. My g-d people, get over it, there is ALWAYS someone faster. Keep to the subject, AA e46 m3s vs. zo6s. For a bmw Tazas car is rediculous, but there are others that are well equipped too, so everyone should be civilized, meet up and race.
PS
There is no 350z thats going to beat Taza

I doubt there is any non FI C6 Zo6 that will beat my car. I know my car is not the fastest out there, but you make it like the C6 Zo6 is. I really dont care but they are not uinbeatable. My old AA Setup would have creamed a C6 Zo6, hell you even mentioned your car did. I dont care what people think of me or my car, i have enough respect in the the real world when people come up to me.

Your contradicting yourself on A LOT of your ideas right now. Your screen name also proves your contradictory post.

Oh well, Happy Thanksgiving everybody.

[DLSJ5]

Ok, I dont understand here. People either love or hate Taza. He seems to be respectable for all the sh*t he gets. Honestly, you have to take it for what it is, there is no AA e46 m3 that will beat even a stock c6 zo6, I got both, anytime anyone wants to challenge it, bring it. Now Taza might have 1000hp, but a c6 zo6 with heads, cams, and full exhaust work, with a little shot of juice will rape that car, no matter the rwhp, sorry. The c6 zo6 with a bad launch goes 10.3 at like 145mph, no juice, thats my boys with the head cams and exhaust, not even the juice. Now Taza, sorry, but why is everyone on your nuts? You know how I know AA, I saw your car built, anyone can drop a car off with like 50k, and say build me a beast, with enough money, everything in the world is possible. I built a 2001 330ci, with the same stuff as your motor, but its s/c'ed(big mistake), and AA is having a world of trouble tuning it, but seriously, whats with all the hype, your car isnt g-d. Now this isnt attacking anyone, this is just reading this thread, and realizing that its a whole heep of crap. My g-d people, get over it, there is ALWAYS someone faster. Keep to the subject, AA e46 m3s vs. zo6s. For a bmw Tazas car is rediculous, but there are others that are well equipped too, so everyone should be civilized, meet up and race.
PS
There is no 350z thats going to beat Taza

Adam, WTF? Viks' car will trap 145 if it hooks up, that I'm sure of. He walked a Stage 4 996TT with ease, those cars trap 135+. Not sure what your post is about Bro. I can assure you that I would run well with a stock C6 Z06, I'm just about even with an S4 that pulled a CLth on a stock C6 Z06, not saying I'd win, but it would be decent run, and Nate pulled on a C6 Z06, not totally sure if that's what you mean, if not my bad

Taza's car is flat out ridiculous period, doesn't matter what brand, etc. I've seen it in action, have you? Bro you talk alot about what you've done or are going to do, which is alot it seems adn I give you props for your dyno runs, nitrous experience etc., but I've seen no vids of any of your cars in action. Taza's we have and against a worthy opponent. Sure there's faster cars out there, that's not the point, NO ONE is getting on Taza's nuts, lmfao, the fact is Taza's car is UNREAL, like him or not, if you can show us some vids of your fastestm3, please do!:thumbsup:

[MSpired]

Ok, I dont understand here. People either love or hate Taza. He seems to be respectable for all the sh*t he gets. Honestly, you have to take it for what it is, there is no AA e46 m3 that will beat even a stock c6 zo6, I got both, anytime anyone wants to challenge it, bring it. Now Taza might have 1000hp, but a c6 zo6 with heads, cams, and full exhaust work, with a little shot of juice will rape that car, no matter the rwhp, sorry. The c6 zo6 with a bad launch goes 10.3 at like 145mph, no juice, thats my boys with the head cams and exhaust, not even the juice. Now Taza, sorry, but why is everyone on your nuts? You know how I know AA, I saw your car built, anyone can drop a car off with like 50k, and say build me a beast, with enough money, everything in the world is possible. I built a 2001 330ci, with the same stuff as your motor, but its s/c'ed(big mistake), and AA is having a world of trouble tuning it, but seriously, whats with all the hype, your car isnt g-d. Now this isnt attacking anyone, this is just reading this thread, and realizing that its a whole heep of crap. My g-d people, get over it, there is ALWAYS someone faster. Keep to the subject, AA e46 m3s vs. zo6s. For a bmw Tazas car is rediculous, but there are others that are well equipped too, so everyone should be civilized, meet up and race.
PS
There is no 350z thats going to beat Taza

It's so funny how every post I read about you has something to do with TaZa. You are CLEARLY jelous of hum, I remember when he was S, you would keep saying, "don't worry, ima make my car faster than yours", but now that he is leagues ahead of you and you WILL NEVER BE FASTER, you simply resort to extreme hating.

[e46hoodrich]

Can any of you FI m3's beat a R1? two of my freinds raced each other one of them in a nitrous c6zo6 vs stock R1.The R1 spanked the zo6 each time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7o2iQ1I9i4

[TaZaM3]

Can any of you FI m3's beat a R1? two of my freinds raced each other one of them in a nitrous c6zo6 vs stock R1.The R1 spanked the zo6 each time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7o2iQ1I9i4


:eek:

[OCswedishM3]

Can any of you FI m3's beat a R1? two of my freinds raced each other one of them in a nitrous c6zo6 vs stock R1.The R1 spanked the zo6 each time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7o2iQ1I9i4

Did you decide to pop some X and make a lexus donut video? cuz i dont know how high u were but i didnt see a C6Z06 really race an R1. Maybe 2 times for about 5 secs from a video about 1/4 a mile away.

[e46hoodrich]

Did you decide to pop some X and make a lexus donut video? cuz i dont know how high u were but i didnt see a C6Z06 really race an R1. Maybe 2 times for about 5 secs from a video about 1/4 a mile away.

yeah bro.the owner of the lexus is on that sh!t.:lmao:the video was made for him as a lil drift video but they also filmed that race.Those two times you saw them race.the c6zo6 was spraying(100shot)suposeblly.I will try to get you better footage.I see these guys every friday at the street races.

Im more intrested to see the supercharger m3 guys spanking zo6's(c6).Im sure taza's car can spank an r1.

[beemerfreak]

Stock M3 vs C5 Z06..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=569J1-KMqeY

I'm sorry but this is a poor video comparing a stock ZO6 vs stock M3. Sure this is a street race and anything can happen. Like no traction and shitty driving.

In no way is a stock M3 faster than a stock C5 ZO6. The ZO6 in this video looked like it was on ice. You guys do know a stock 03-04 ZO6 with tires is a low 12 sec car.

A bolt-on C5 ZO6 should be trapping 118-122 MPH here on the East Coast. A H/C ZO6 should be trapping upper 120s.

How do stage 1 M3's do vs stock E55's?

[beemerfreak]

We have ran a few C5 Z06's this one was faster than the other stock one by far.



We went from a 3rd gear roll approx 65-75 MPH starts not the best powerband for the M3 to start at the bottom of 3rd, 50 MPH starts and we would have pulled earlier and farther by 115.



This is tough to believe, as M6's are def faster than C5 Z06's, but results may var, yet it proves how fast C5 Z06's can be. This C5 Z06 we ran, has said he's beaten an M6, and ran even or pulled on a new ls3 vette up to 140 before the Ls3 started to pull, those new ls3 vette's have trapped 119! So this C5 Z06 is an anomoly it seems.



Depends on the M3, what boost etc, OC Swedish beat one. Again in the vid I posted with the Stage 4 Porsche 996TT and S4, I ran about even with my buddies 475AWHP S4, and he pulled on a C6 Z06 by a CLth, up to 115 or so then the Z06 creeped up and it stayed there tell they let off. The S4 is actually faster now, so I don't think the C6 Z06 would destroy me, but I wouldn't bet against it, lol, they are monsters no doubt. But that Stage 4 996TT is a monster and he didn't walk away until midway through 4th. :thumbsup:



No doubt they are beasts, but the C5 Z06 that I ran with 460WHP is about on par with a C6 Z06 and when I ran him I was slower, he started to pull in 4th before we shut down and he was even with that S4 that night, as I am now. He trapped 118 at a track with a DA of 3000'+ that day, it goes uphill as well, lol. If he ran at sea level, 123+ traps would be doable.

Here's my run against him a few months back, and I'm faster now. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf1mrZPNp0c




Simple reason, the traps are there, just not the 60'.



Excellent times Bro, stock C5 Z06's have trapped 115, BTW. :thumbsup:

:thumbsup: Your car is very impressive. Beating a 997 TT from a roll is pretty nuts.

I wish you and the H/C C5 ZO6 kept on going at it. These ZO6 really shine in triple digit numbers. Due to them being shaped so aerodynamic.

But very impressive.

[TaZaM3]

I'm sorry but this is a poor video comparing a stock ZO6 vs stock M3. Sure this is a street race and anything can happen. Like no traction and shitty driving.

In no way is a stock M3 faster than a stock C5 ZO6. The ZO6 in this video looked like it was on ice. You guys do know a stock 03-04 ZO6 with tires is a low 12 sec car.

A bolt-on C5 ZO6 should be trapping 118-122 MPH here on the East Coast. A H/C ZO6 should be trapping upper 120s.

How do stage 1 M3's do vs stock E55's?

The video was posted to prove anything can happen and in retaliation to the HPF M3 running against the Nitrous C5 Zo6 at the track where the M3 had no traction.

[fastestm3]

My car with a AA sgt3+ with a 150 shot beat a stock c6 zo6. Also, for all you people who live in cali, and find it need be to be on his balls, then so be it. There are far more people who were "in the game with AA" for far far longer than vick. Also I was never like I will make my car faster than vics, it was always faster than vics until the 50k motor job. I was the one that helped get his car to where it was on the nitrous. As stated b4, its not attacking anyone, but there is always faster. I dont even have a e46 anymore, I moved to 335's.
PS
I dont know why everyone on this site has real attitudes, and ego problems. Stop attacking one another. e46 m3s are not the end all be all. ANY e46 m3 s/c'ed, even with nitrous, BRING IT. Talk is cheap. I have a stock, and modded z06 waiting. PM me for my number, and we will see who will win. VICK, next time your car is at AA, call me, I am always there, we can set up a friendly run, just cause you and everyone else is so sure that z06s are so slow.

[DLSJ5]

My car with a AA sgt3+ with a 150 shot beat a stock c6 zo6. Also, for all you people who live in cali, and find it need be to be on his balls, then so be it. There are far more people who were "in the game with AA" for far far longer than vick. Also I was never like I will make my car faster than vics, it was always faster than vics until the 50k motor job. I was the one that helped get his car to where it was on the nitrous. As stated b4, its not attacking anyone, but there is always faster. I dont even have a e46 anymore, I moved to 335's.
PS
I dont know why everyone on this site has real attitudes, and ego problems. Stop attacking one another. e46 m3s are not the end all be all. ANY e46 m3 s/c'ed, even with nitrous, BRING IT. Talk is cheap. I have a stock, and modded z06 waiting. PM me for my number, and we will see who will win. VICK, next time your car is at AA, call me, I am always there, we can set up a friendly run, just cause you and everyone else is so sure that z06s are so slow.

Ego's? lol, sorry bro just sounds kinda funny coming from you. :D

NO ONE here said Z06's are slow compared to a SC'd M3, my money is on the stock C6 Z06 vs. any SC'd M3/stock internals, just on boost, regardless it should be close with Stage 2 SC setups.

Modded Z06's are crazy, it'll take a turbo or high boost SC setup with internals to run with or take a modded one as you described.

How does your 335I compare to your Boosted M3, correct me if I'm wrong, but did I read that you said it's faster than your old SC'D M3 setup?

[enigma m3]

ding ding round two !

Nonetheless guys come on. The only way we can decide who is cooler between Taza and FASTEST M3 is who has the hotter wife/girlfriend post pics we will decide.

On a lighter note... Cant think of one but keeping posting vids

[DLSJ5]

--- As for the 335i, I dynoed on a dynomometer, 351rwhp, and 420rwtq. A customer of mine that I did his whole car with a e46 m3, AA stg3+, that dynoed on the same dyno 447rwhp, and 313rwtq. So where ever we start, I pull a car or two, and hold it out to my govener, gotta love the torque! But when he sprays, and I spray, its a whole different story...

Damn, so you pull on AA Stage 3 M3's with your 335I? With far less WHP? What shot are you running on the 335i? Interesting, I pull around 3 CLth's on my buds V2 335I with every bolt on that dynoed near 400WHP, and he is just about even with modded E60 M5's, they pull about a CLth just before he hits his limiter. Looks like you got a freak 335I there, shot some comparo vids, love to see 'em! :thumbsup:

ding ding round two !

Nonetheless guys come on. The only way we can decide who is cooler between Taza and FASTEST M3 is who has the hotter wife/girlfriend post pics we will decide.

On a lighter note... Cant think of one but keeping posting vids


I've meet Taza's girl and she's HOT!!!!! :thumbsup:

[turboaddiction]

I've meet Taza's girl and she's HOT!!!!! :thumbsup:
+1
Str8:str8pimpi

fastestm3-you should never have sold your m3 with that username. Taza has the fastestm3 turbo e46 and he also did when he was S/C + spray. He has the quarter mile slip to prove the S/C + spray...where is your's? :hi:

[ST06M3]

+1
Str8:str8pimpi

fastestm3-you should never have sold your m3 with that username. Taza has the fastestm3 turbo e46 and he also did when he was S/C + spray. He has the quarter mile slip to prove the S/C + spray...where is your's? :hi:

Dont mean to change the subject but, Cameron, your new signature looks good. Thats one nice looking M3.

[DLSJ5]

Dont mean to change the subject but, Cameron, your new signature looks good. Thats one nice looking M3.

I concur!!

[turboaddiction]

Dont mean to change the subject but, Cameron, your new signature looks good. Thats one nice looking M3.
I concur!!
Thanks guys! Jon Sibal made it for me. I didn't have the black kidney grills in yet though when I sent him the pic to use. :(

[fastestm3]

Taza, your right, everyone else is right. Makes no difference at this point. I understand that your just slicker at being egotistical, I am not, I am in your face kind of guy over the internet, yet softer spoken in person.
How do you pull your friends v2 335? I pull a vishnu product, v2 also by about 4 cars, but he only had the v2 and a intake. Either way, I am running into voltage issues with my customers e46 m3, so as soon as its up and running, there is a CRAZY meet by my house on mondays that I will shoot for you guys on here. NITROUS, shhhh, not a finished product yet, but as TAZA will tell eveyone, they are all the same, especially on cars with 2 different fuel pumps, and no MAF, so if things arent done right, then BOOM... So, when its done, I will post those vids also!

[DLSJ5]

Taza, your right, everyone else is right. Makes no difference at this point. I understand that your just slicker at being egotistical, I am not, I am in your face kind of guy over the internet, yet softer spoken in person.
How do you pull your friends v2 335? I pull a vishnu product, v2 also by about 4 cars, but he only had the v2 and a intake. Either way, I am running into voltage issues with my customers e46 m3, so as soon as its up and running, there is a CRAZY meet by my house on mondays that I will shoot for you guys on here. NITROUS, shhhh, not a finished product yet, but as TAZA will tell eveyone, they are all the same, especially on cars with 2 different fuel pumps, and no MAF, so if things arent done right, then BOOM... So, when its done, I will post those vids also!

My buddies V2 has all the bolt ons and pulls on other V2's with exhausts pretty easily and is about even with modded E60 M5's up to 130! Looking forward to seeing your vids. :thumbsup:

[fastestm3]

DLSJ5, what is your weight? If you lowered the weight that is probably why you pull on the car. Could be a number of things. AA s/c's make no torque, where your running what a vortec? They make torque, so its probably a combination of different things. But if you go by the numbers, even if my friend is 450rwhp, and I am 350rwhp, I have OVER 100lbs more torque to the wheels than him, which will give me the inertia to pull off. That right there is the key.

[turboaddiction]

DLSJ5, what is your weight? If you lowered the weight that is probably why you pull on the car. Could be a number of things. AA s/c's make no torque, where your running what a vortec? They make torque, so its probably a combination of different things. But if you go by the numbers, even if my friend is 450rwhp, and I am 350rwhp, I have OVER 100lbs more torque to the wheels than him, which will give me the inertia to pull off. That right there is the key.
I would love to see you start a thread with videos of you pulling on different cars! That would be sweet! :hi:

[OCswedishM3]

DLSJ5, what is your weight? If you lowered the weight that is probably why you pull on the car. Could be a number of things. AA s/c's make no torque, where your running what a vortec? They make torque, so its probably a combination of different things. But if you go by the numbers, even if my friend is 450rwhp, and I am 350rwhp, I have OVER 100lbs more torque to the wheels than him, which will give me the inertia to pull off. That right there is the key.

AA blowers make more torque than the VF setup.

[MSpired]

AA blowers make more torque than the VF setup.

x2

[toyrunr]

Taza, your right, everyone else is right. Makes no difference at this point. I understand that your just slicker at being egotistical, I am not, I am in your face kind of guy over the internet, yet softer spoken in person.
How do you pull your friends v2 335? I pull a vishnu product, v2 also by about 4 cars, but he only had the v2 and a intake. Either way, I am running into voltage issues with my customers e46 m3, so as soon as its up and running, there is a CRAZY meet by my house on mondays that I will shoot for you guys on here. NITROUS, shhhh, not a finished product yet, but as TAZA will tell eveyone, they are all the same, especially on cars with 2 different fuel pumps, and no MAF, so if things arent done right, then BOOM... So, when its done, I will post those vids also!

For someone that speaks of "no personal attacks" YOU ARE (and not your, as you write) the one that attacks Vic in every post. Do you ever read yours own posts? It's horrible. You sound like a 10 year old girl on speed. You can't just write 10 points and randomly place commas between them to make them into sentences.

If I get banned for this, so be it. However, I was enjoying reading this thread up until I came across your dumb ass posts and it ruined it for me.

You are a "bad ass" on the internet and more soft spoken in real life? I think you are just an idiot that has a lot of insecurities and has to finally come out of the closet.

[MSpired]

For someone that speaks of "no personal attacks" YOU ARE (and not your, as you write) the one that attacks Vic in every post. Do you ever read yours own posts? It's horrible. You sound like a 10 year old girl on speed. You can't just write 10 points and randomly place commas between them to make them into sentences.

If I get banned for this, so be it. However, I was enjoying reading this thread up until I came across your dumb ass posts and it ruined it for me.

You are a "bad ass" on the internet and more soft spoken in real life? I think you are just an idiot that has a lot of insecurities and has to finally come out of the closet.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[fastestm3]

Wow, ok. Its funny how everyone from cali that posts, acts the same way towards me, but the people here who read it, tell me that they can see why I would make posts. They tell me not to even bother posting on this site because everyone is biast, and will only look at me bad and wrong cause I say something that goes against the all mighty vic. One day I will learn my lesson. I am coming to realize that its not vic, its the people that post for him that makes me the way I am in his posts.
----BUT the e46 m3 with the AA stg3+ makes 455rwhp, and 313 rwtq. Anything makes more than that torque wise. Atleast all the ones that I have owned or installed, make around the same rwhp, but generally same rwtq. 313rwtq? Come one. What do the VF kits make, with a compareable stg/kit?

[turboaddiction]

Wow, ok. Its funny how everyone from cali that posts, acts the same way towards me, but the people here who read it, tell me that they can see why I would make posts. They tell me not to even bother posting on this site because everyone is biast, and will only look at me bad and wrong cause I say something that goes against the all mighty vic. One day I will learn my lesson. I am coming to realize that its not vic, its the people that post for him that makes me the way I am in his posts.
----BUT the e46 m3 with the AA stg3+ makes 455rwhp, and 313 rwtq. Anything makes more than that torque wise. Atleast all the ones that I have owned or installed, make around the same rwhp, but generally same rwtq. 313rwtq? Come one. What do the VF kits make, with a compareable stg/kit?
It was clearly stated it is the way you post...it has nothing to do with your problem with Vik. Please post another thread with videos of you against S/C M3s. Thanks.

[OCswedishM3]

Wow, ok. Its funny how everyone from cali that posts, acts the same way towards me, but the people here who read it, tell me that they can see why I would make posts. They tell me not to even bother posting on this site because everyone is biast, and will only look at me bad and wrong cause I say something that goes against the all mighty vic. One day I will learn my lesson. I am coming to realize that its not vic, its the people that post for him that makes me the way I am in his posts.
----BUT the e46 m3 with the AA stg3+ makes 455rwhp, and 313 rwtq. Anything makes more than that torque wise. Atleast all the ones that I have owned or installed, make around the same rwhp, but generally same rwtq. 313rwtq? Come one. What do the VF kits make, with a compareable stg/kit?

VF stage 1 makes 280wtq, AA stage 1 makes 313wtq, Vf stage 2=? guessing around 300. AA stage 2 327wtq. AA stage 3= 343wtq. Going off my numbers on pump gas. On race fuel things vary. But there are exceptions, maybe drew's car numbers are higher than the normal VF, maybe my numbers are higher than the normal AA?

[fastestm3]

OC, your numbers are really high. I have dynoed many different e46 m3s, with the AA stg3+ and on the same dyno, have NEVER seen more than 315rwtq. You must be dynoin on a dynojet that is calibrated high. I dyno all my cars on a dynodynamics dynomometer. They give alittle more than a mustang dyno, but are less yet more acurate and preicse than a dynojet. People use dynojets for numbers, for tuning and a more real number people use mustang or dynomometers. Atleast here they do, in south florida. They are loading dynos, I find that even the a/f is more acurate. BUT, I guess if I dynoed those cars on a dynojet, 343rwtq would be correct. Then take my 420rwtq, and up it the 20+rwtq, and its still about 100twtq diff, and that is where the difference is.
---I am trying to figure out the fuel issues with the e46 m3, so that we can do a vid of motor, and a vid of nitrous!

[OCswedishM3]

OC, your numbers are really high. I have dynoed many different e46 m3s, with the AA stg3+ and on the same dyno, have NEVER seen more than 315rwtq. You must be dynoin on a dynojet that is calibrated high. I dyno all my cars on a dynodynamics dynomometer. They give alittle more than a mustang dyno, but are less yet more acurate and preicse than a dynojet. People use dynojets for numbers, for tuning and a more real number people use mustang or dynomometers. Atleast here they do, in south florida. They are loading dynos, I find that even the a/f is more acurate. BUT, I guess if I dynoed those cars on a dynojet, 343rwtq would be correct. Then take my 420rwtq, and up it the 20+rwtq, and its still about 100twtq diff, and that is where the difference is.
---I am trying to figure out the fuel issues with the e46 m3, so that we can do a vid of motor, and a vid of nitrous!

Mine were done on a dynodynamics dynometer also. Oh and my fuel cut out around 7200rpm's which i know u can tell by how my hp curve flatened out instead of peaking up till the rev limiter like its suppose too. I guess some cars are just more stout than others. I dont mean this as an attack but your 335i wouldnt be close to me at all if we raced. I have raced cars that had much more whp than ~350 more like 430-440whp which had 420wtq and weighed about 300lbs lighter than the 335 and i still beat it.
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=249440&d=1195241738

[fastestm3]

Well, then your car is faster than all the ones I did. I wont argue with you. Plus usually all the cars I do, they do a crazy system in the trunk, they probably add another 150+lbs. But lighten it other spots. So, I guess I will have to find another e46 m3, and race him, because I highly doubt by as bad as I beat the ones I have raced, it will make that big of a difference. I have just noticed that e46 m3s with chargers just arent all that fast, thats why I got rid of mine! Strange, stout, all the cars that AA does for me, they tell me that mine are feaks as fast as they feel. They tell me that all my cars are unusually faster than the ones they do. If you know anyone that has a stg3 in south florida, could you set us up?

[Miami///M3]

:thumbsup:Well, then your car is faster than all the ones I did. I wont argue with you. Plus usually all the cars I do, they do a crazy system in the trunk, they probably add another 150+lbs. But lighten it other spots. So, I guess I will have to find another e46 m3, and race him, because I highly doubt by as bad as I beat the ones I have raced, it will make that big of a difference. I have just noticed that e46 m3s with chargers just arent all that fast, thats why I got rid of mine! Strange, stout, all the cars that AA does for me, they tell me that mine are feaks as fast as they feel. They tell me that all my cars are unusually faster than the ones they do. If you know anyone that has a stg3 in south florida, could you set us up?

I Have a Gen3 Stg2 in Miami,FL and am more then willing to do a few comparo pulls... I have been wanting to run a 335 especially one that is modify cuz those cars turn into something different with just a simple tune... So when ever you want just let me know... I will PM you my number so we can meet up whenever you want...
:thumbsup:

[MSpired]

:thumbsup:

I Have a Gen3 Stg2 in Miami,FL and am more then willing to do a few comparo pulls... I have been wanting to run a 335 especially one that is modify cuz those cars turn into something different with just a simple tune... So when ever you want just let me know... I will PM you my number so we can meet up whenever you want...
:thumbsup:


Unless he is spraying you will take him, don't worry! :thumbsup:

[Miami///M3]

Thanks MSpired.... Hopefully we can make some vids and post them so people can see the outcome w.e it will be...

[fastestm3]

Theoretically, if you go by the numbers, I should get walkedlike its nobodys business. Maybe the ones I race are just too fat? But the torque is just so great...

[TaZaM3]

Theoretically, if you go by the numbers, I should get walkedlike its nobodys business. Maybe the ones I race are just too fat? But the torque is just so great...

TQ is great but its not all about TQ. It has plenty to do with HP, weight, gearing, traction and the driver. TQ becomes less and less effective as speeds rise, HP gets more effective. 335 might do well down low, but bye bye as speeds rise.

[MSpired]

Here is a video of me taking some Procede 1.47 cars out by about 3-6 CL's.

I just ran Sherwin's Procede v2.02 (pretty much has every mod there is) and took him by a couple CL's as well.

About 2 minutes into the video are the 335 clips.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BcEhfjsxYds

I've yet to see any 335 be able to take on a supercharged M3

[Walked U]

Here is a video of me taking some Procede 1.47 cars out by about 3-6 CL's.

I just ran Sherwin's Procede v2.02 (pretty much has every mod there is) and took him by a couple CL's as well.

About 2 minutes into the video are the 335 clips.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BcEhfjsxYds

I've yet to see any 335 be able to take on a supercharged M3

Lol those runs were when I had my stock dp on, I was running 10.1 AFR across the board. Few months back...

Not on v2.0.2, those runs I was at just custom tune for catless DP's. (but running stock catted DP's, reason why I was running rich.

These videos are better mike.

The ones when we ran last week

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s235/WalkedU/th_vsmspired.jpg (http://s153.photobucket.com/albums/s235/WalkedU/?action=view&current=vsmspired.flv)

[turboaddiction]

Wow! Those were some impressive runs! Is your 335i pretty much maxed out now?

[Walked U]

Wow! Those were some impressive runs! Is your 335i pretty much maxed out now?



Thanks Cam.

On 91 I would think so.

Im trying stock box again, still need to buy a drop in filter.

A race gas map still needs to be made tho. So I wouldnt know where the max potentials are at. Still want to do a little weight reduction and meth injection.

[Miami///M3]

fastestm3 if you would like to do some runs, I am more then willing to do it just let me know... Where in south florida are you located?

[OCswedishM3]

Lol those runs were when I had my stock dp on, I was running 10.1 AFR across the board. Few months back...

Not on v2.0.2, those runs I was at just custom tune for catless DP's. (but running stock catted DP's, reason why I was running rich.

These videos are better mike.

The ones when we ran last week

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s235/WalkedU/th_vsmspired.jpg (http://s153.photobucket.com/albums/s235/WalkedU/?action=view&current=vsmspired.flv)

good vids, but i dont know why people start rolling races on the freeway in 2nd. A 40mph start is stupid on the freeway. Plus we have no traction in 2nd so its pointless.

[beemerfreak]

Thanks Cam.

On 91 I would think so.

Im trying stock box again, still need to buy a drop in filter.

A race gas map still needs to be made tho. So I wouldnt know where the max potentials are at. Still want to do a little weight reduction and meth injection.

So your full bolt-on 335i is right next to a AA blown M3 from a roll.

Your car is insane, much respect. :excited:

On top of that your running 91 OCT and the boosted ///M is running meth!

It looks like your 335I will wax a SC M3 if your both running straight pump gas.

91 OCT. FTL :thumbdwn:

BTW your car seems to impress me more and more every time you post a new vid.

[MSpired]

Lol those runs were when I had my stock dp on, I was running 10.1 AFR across the board. Few months back...

Not on v2.0.2, those runs I was at just custom tune for catless DP's. (but running stock catted DP's, reason why I was running rich.

These videos are better mike.

The ones when we ran last week

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s235/WalkedU/th_vsmspired.jpg (http://s153.photobucket.com/albums/s235/WalkedU/?action=view&current=vsmspired.flv)

What up bro. I messed up on my post, I meant that in the vid you were on 1.47 and i just ran you last week on 2.02, should have made that a little more clear.

If you want to really get into the specifics, my car's AFR's are currently in the high 10's up top (running meth is actually hurting me, not helping me without a tune for it)

The vids you posted, i'm spinning extreeeeeeeemely hard in 2nd, and there is no chance of getting htat loss back. I need to upload the vids of us going at it from a 3rd gear roll, where i walked you by at least 2 cars. Those were more fair comparisions without eitehr of us spinning tires.

I only brought you up as you are the fastest 335 brotha! :thumbsup:

[beemerfreak]

What up bro. I messed up on my post, I meant that in the vid you were on 1.47 and i just ran you last week on 2.02, should have made that a little more clear.

If you want to really get into the specifics, my car's AFR's are currently in the high 10's up top (running meth is actually hurting me, not helping me without a tune for it)

The vids you posted, i'm spinning extreeeeeeeemely hard in 2nd, and there is no chance of getting htat loss back. I need to upload the vids of us going at it from a 3rd gear roll, where i walked you by at least 2 cars. Those were more fair comparisions without eitehr of us spinning tires.

I only brought you up as you are the fastest 335 brotha! :thumbsup:

So both your tunes are off. Low 11s A/F is where you want be at right?

Both you guys should get your tunes fixed and run again. But with both you guys running the same octane.

Seems like a good race. :thumbsup:

[MSpired]

So both your tunes are off. Low 11s A/F is where you want be at right?

Both you guys should get your tunes fixed and run again. But with both you guys running the same octane.

Seems like a good race. :thumbsup:

Best AFR IMO would be 12.2's. I'm slowly working on things to take my car to the next level, so the tune will wait till everything is in order :thumbsup:

[beemerfreak]

Best AFR IMO would be 12.2's. I'm slowly working on things to take my car to the next level, so the tune will wait till everything is in order :thumbsup:

For Evo's I think its around low to mid 11s.

But yea once your A/F's are off your not making full power. If you got properly tuned for the meth kit and up the boost/timing you should see a big increase in power.

So what's next for the ///M. N2O?

[MSpired]

For Evo's I think its around low to mid 11s.

But yea once your A/F's are off your not making full power. If you got properly tuned for the meth kit and up the boost/timing you should see a big increase in power.

So what's next for the ///M. N2O?

Turbo cars usually like to run a little richer AFR's, I think cause turbo's are harder to tune, so they richen things up to be on the safe side....

Planning or running the meth correctly (correct hardware which I just got), N20, maybe a lil more boost and a tune for it all including some timing.

[MSpired]

Here are a couple vids of me vs. Sherwin's and Jon's 335's. 3rd gear rolls.

MSpired vs. Jon vs. Sherwin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13yuK9uUQYw

MSpired vs. Sherwin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ0GDg0S0h8

[Walked U]

What up bro. I messed up on my post, I meant that in the vid you were on 1.47 and i just ran you last week on 2.02, should have made that a little more clear.

If you want to really get into the specifics, my car's AFR's are currently in the high 10's up top (running meth is actually hurting me, not helping me without a tune for it)

The vids you posted, i'm spinning extreeeeeeeemely hard in 2nd, and there is no chance of getting htat loss back. I need to upload the vids of us going at it from a 3rd gear roll, where i walked you by at least 2 cars. Those were more fair comparisions without eitehr of us spinning tires.

I only brought you up as you are the fastest 335 brotha! :thumbsup:

Hey whats up hahaha.

Dont worry about it. Ya you can tell you were spinning in 2nd.

[beanfree]

That is still amazing that it takes a supercharged M3 to beat a bolt on modded 335i.

[fastestm3]

Its just so funny how everyone makes up excuses. The 335 is closer than you think, especially on 91 oct. 93 would be even better. Also, you car isnt going to put more cl's on the 335 by upping to 12.2 a/fs. Maybe if best a half car. I run 93 oct. So, if you see, the 335s from a 1st, 2nd gear roll are fast, doesnt matter about traction, thats what the cars does, maybe just roll into the gas until u get traction. I never had traction issues in 2nd.3rd gear races arent that bad either, your gutted, so your weight makes a diff. A regular weight e46 m3, is a totally diff story. Take a stock weight e46 m3, and race that same guy on 93 oct, you will be surprised!

[turboaddiction]

Thanks Cam.

On 91 I would think so.

Im trying stock box again, still need to buy a drop in filter.

A race gas map still needs to be made tho. So I wouldnt know where the max potentials are at. Still want to do a little weight reduction and meth injection.
Nice! You can still make a lot of power on race fuel if the stock turbos are up to it. Some meth and a weight reduction...can't wait for that! Your car is doing very well! :str8pimpi
Turbo cars usually like to run a little richer AFR's, I think cause turbo's are harder to tune, so they richen things up to be on the safe side....

Planning or running the meth correctly (correct hardware which I just got), N20, maybe a lil more boost and a tune for it all including some timing.
Exactly! Turbo cars need to drink a little more when in boost. :)

You guys need to:
-get your AFRs perfect.
-both have your meth inj. working nicely with tune.
-start from a high rev 3rd gear pull.
:thumbsup:

[DLSJ5]

Its just so funny how everyone makes up excuses. The 335 is closer than you think, especially on 91 oct. 93 would be even better. Also, you car isnt going to put more cl's on the 335 by upping to 12.2 a/fs. Maybe if best a half car. I run 93 oct. So, if you see, the 335s from a 1st, 2nd gear roll are fast, doesnt matter about traction, thats what the cars does, maybe just roll into the gas until u get traction. I never had traction issues in 2nd.3rd gear races arent that bad either, your gutted, so your weight makes a diff. A regular weight e46 m3, is a totally diff story. Take a stock weight e46 m3, and race that same guy on 93 oct, you will be surprised!

Adam, that's the 335I I was refering too, I have a pretty much a full weight SC'd M3 and pull on him by 3 CLth's. When he gets a race file, it's gonna be fun.

Mspired's car was peeling out I saw a few of the runs, he's not running right either. However I totally agree with you that the 335I is very impressive, and Walked U's car is moving very well, he's about even with modded E60 M5's! Good stuff, when he gets a race file, it'll be very interesting. :thumbsup:

[DLSJ5]

That is still amazing that it takes a supercharged M3 to beat a bolt on modded 335i.

Not really when you consider Walked U's (Sherwin) 335I makes about 400+WHP and 420+ WTQ, Vishnu trapped 117 as well with less mods than him and Sherwin is running with Modded E60 M5's. I'd say a Stage 1 M3, not including Johnny's, would be even or loose to Sherwin's 335I, I'd bet on Sherwin's 335 coming out ahead.

[///JTM3]

Yeah those 335's are quick... they kick our asss in the tq section..

[MSpired]

That is still amazing that it takes a supercharged M3 to beat a bolt on modded 335i.

I definetely agree, in fact the last thing I said that last nigth we all ran was that teh 335 impresses me the most. That such simple mods bring it up to a level of very fast cars.

Its just so funny how everyone makes up excuses. The 335 is closer than you think, especially on 91 oct. 93 would be even better. Also, you car isnt going to put more cl's on the 335 by upping to 12.2 a/fs. Maybe if best a half car. I run 93 oct. So, if you see, the 335s from a 1st, 2nd gear roll are fast, doesnt matter about traction, thats what the cars does, maybe just roll into the gas until u get traction. I never had traction issues in 2nd.3rd gear races arent that bad either, your gutted, so your weight makes a diff. A regular weight e46 m3, is a totally diff story. Take a stock weight e46 m3, and race that same guy on 93 oct, you will be surprised!


I normally would have traction in 2nd, but it's been so cold out that i'm not used to not having such little grip, and the fact that my tires suck doesn't help....

Sherwin, wern't you on race gas that night?

[DLSJ5]

I definetely agree, in fact the last thing I said that last nigth we all ran was that teh 335 impresses me the most. That such simple mods bring it up to a level of very fast cars.




I normally would have traction in 2nd, but it's been so cold out that i'm not used to not having such little grip, and the fact that my tires suck doesn't help....

Sherwin, wern't you on race gas that night?

2nd that, I started loosing traction at the end of the night as well when it got cooler out, but I saw you take off in 2nd a few times and your rear end was all over the place.

[MSpired]

Its just so funny how everyone makes up excuses. The 335 is closer than you think, especially on 91 oct. 93 would be even better. Also, you car isnt going to put more cl's on the 335 by upping to 12.2 a/fs. Maybe if best a half car. I run 93 oct. So, if you see, the 335s from a 1st, 2nd gear roll are fast, doesnt matter about traction, thats what the cars does, maybe just roll into the gas until u get traction. I never had traction issues in 2nd.3rd gear races arent that bad either, your gutted, so your weight makes a diff. A regular weight e46 m3, is a totally diff story. Take a stock weight e46 m3, and race that same guy on 93 oct, you will be surprised!

Also, my car weighs less than Sherwin's, but with me and my passenger in it, I probably wasn't too much lower in weight than Sherwins car with him and his passenger...