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HPF Chris
02-07-2008, 07:07 PM
We just received our first article for our methanol tanks (included with our stage 2 turbo systems). It required the creation of a $12,000 tool and 3 months to make just one. Now that we've received the first article, we have a few very minor revisions to make to the tool and then we can do a production run on them. For those waiting on them, we appreciate your patience.

As you can see from the pictures below, we absolutely maximized the amount of methanol storage in all 3 dimensions for our tank to fit inside the engine compartment. This created a tank that is 1.25 gallons (enough to last a month with normal driving) Many methanol kits locate the tank inside the cabin, which can become a safety hazzard in the event of an accident. We wanted ours to have easy refill access while maintaining the protection achieved from the factory firewall. This is why we located it in the engine bay. Our methanol tank is located one foot from the methanol pump and one foot from the methanol fogger which creates near instant methanol pressure once boost passes a pre-set (already programmed) setting. When long lines are used as in other kits we've seen, it will take slightly longer for the "high boost" methanol pressure to be achieved.

The tank we created and the cap are methanol compliant, and the bottom uses a quick disconnect fitting. All of the lines are methanol compliant, and all of our components come pre-configured. The tune is also pre-configured and the kit simply needs to be plugged in to our EMS.

Brian's M3 is nearing completion (it should be ready for dyno testing tomorrow)...

P.S. If you're waiting for the right time to get your car in here, now's the time to do it. We have some free time in our schedule this month, but it's filling up fast. Send an email to david@horsepowerfreaks.com if you're interested.

Here are some pictures...

This is the original tank "computer" model.

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/methanoltank/MethanolTank2.jpg

Here are pictures of the "first article" tank on some E46 M3's. (Notice the "methanol" tank neatly tucked around our polished intake manifold)

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/methanoltank/MethanolTankCar1.jpg

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/methanoltank/MethanolTankCar2.jpg

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/methanoltank/MethanolTankCar3.jpg

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/methanoltank/MethanolTankCar4.jpg

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/methanoltank/MethanolTankCar5.jpg

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/methanoltank/MethanolTankCar6.jpg

Here are a couple pictures of the methanol tank with the intake manifold off to show how we maximized volume within the limited space constraints. You can see the side protruding to the rear of the car, and the bottom protruding towards the middle of the car. This allows us to store 1.25 gallons of methanol in this location.

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/methanoltank/MethanolTankCar7.jpg

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/methanoltank/MethanolTankCar8.jpg

Here's a picture of the remainder of the methanol components. Everything is plug-n-play and simply plugs right into our EMS. This bracket mounts right under the front bumper and has mounting locations for the factory horns laser etched into the bracket for easy installation.

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/methanolbracket/MethanolBracketAndFogger.jpg

For near perfect distribution, we fitted every HPF turbo kit with a methanol bung located in the intake manifold in the center of the airstream. Each stage 1 "non-methanol" customer has this bung for later upgrades to stage 2. Installing the methanol fogger is as simple as removing the bung plug and screwing in the FJO methanol fogger into the port labeled "methanol" in the picture below.

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/methanolbracket/MethanolIntakePort.jpg

Take care,
Chris.

ST06M3
02-07-2008, 08:17 PM
Awesome Engineering. OEM look, build, and quality. :bow:

I like how its easy to access and fill up the methanol tank.

Great work guys. :thumbsup:

BTW, my car is supposed to arrive tomorrow.

phrozen06
02-07-2008, 08:21 PM
You guys take this stuff very serious which is good for the consumer.

Rayce185
02-07-2008, 08:25 PM
Good god... That's insane! Is this also applicable to other FI setups? :eeps:

bimmerbum46
02-07-2008, 08:38 PM
You guys never stop :wow:

:bow: to my favorite aftermarket company evar!

Macho3
02-07-2008, 08:45 PM
No One Can Touch Hpf

Rayce185
02-07-2008, 08:53 PM
BTW what are the two horn like looking things on the rack?

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/methanolbracket/MethanolBracketAndFogger.jpg

Right bottom corner.

Snox400
02-07-2008, 08:56 PM
^:rofl:

bimmerbum46
02-07-2008, 09:42 PM
BTW what are the two horn like looking things on the rack?

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/methanolbracket/MethanolBracketAndFogger.jpg

Right bottom corner.

probably the horns that had to get relocated when you install the methanol kit where its supposed to be (AKA where the horns come mounted from the factory) :D

tankm3
02-08-2008, 12:58 AM
How much longer til we get these in our possession Chris?

HPF Chris
02-08-2008, 01:24 AM
No One Can Touch Hpf


I like that thought. We're going to keep pushing the limit to hopefully stay one step ahead, but there's plenty of room in this market for other players.

How much longer til we get these in our possession Chris?

Tommy...

I'm thinking it will be around 3-4 weeks. If the tool was done correctly, it would be around 1-2 weeks. We made a final version of the model and a preliminary version of the model. Somehow a couple of our final fitment modifications were not incorporated into the tool. These will work but the fitment isn't perfect, and you know how we are about that. We should have the tool modified shortly and make a new run. I will ship them out as soon as they arrive.

We may not have mentioned this before, but all of our stage 2 customers can run any methanol tank they want in the meantime. :) I wasn't going to say this because I figured our tanks would be done by now. Just make sure you use 100% methanol. I would prefer everyone waits just a little longer, but if you can't hold back and the weather is good, then you can pick up a cheap tank for $20 and secure it right above your intercooler. Then plug in the connector to our EMS under the drivers side engine bay DME cover.


BTW what are the two horn like looking things on the rack?


Those are factory horns. Rather than tell each shop to relocate the horns, we made a special mounting location on our bracket for the factory horns and etched them into the bracket to make sure they knew exactly where to mount them.


Good god... That's insane! Is this also applicable to other FI setups?


We will be using our methanol kit for every turbo system we design. It will be incorporated into our twin turbo M5, and we're already designing mounting locations for the methanol foggers.


You guys take this stuff very serious which is good for the consumer.


Thanks.


Awesome Engineering. OEM look, build, and quality.
I like how its easy to access and fill up the methanol tank.
Great work guys.
BTW, my car is supposed to arrive tomorrow.


Thanks Jim... I appreciate all the support and look forward to more vids after we take your M3 to the next level.

Take care,
Chris.

Rayce185
02-08-2008, 05:36 AM
We will be using our methanol kit for every turbo system we design. It will be incorporated into our twin turbo M5, and we're already designing mounting locations for the methanol foggers.I actually meant... erm... if this can be used with other FI setups from others manufacturers... :eeps:

HPF Chris
02-08-2008, 12:57 PM
I actually meant... erm... if this can be used with other FI setups from others manufacturers... :eeps:

It possibly could be. We would have to show the pinout and someone would have to control it with their own controller. The methanol nozzle would have to be mounted somewhere else as well as our location is built right into our intake manifold. I currently do not have plans to sell these separately.

Chris.

Evil Twin Rob
02-08-2008, 03:50 PM
Very nice. If it didn't have the logo on it, you would never know it wasn't factory.

budman
02-08-2008, 04:24 PM
Damn.. I need to win a large sum of money soon

3rd_collective
02-08-2008, 05:12 PM
^^you and me both. I need to stop by the store for some lottery tickets today :eeps:

budman
02-08-2008, 05:20 PM
^^you and me both. I need to stop by the store for some lottery tickets today :eeps:
:excited:
You wanna rob a bank?

monkeyjuice5150
02-08-2008, 05:31 PM
So how much longer for a 330 kit? Better yet stage 3?