Response to the previous thread (now closed)

[M3Newbie]

The original thread was closed, so I had to open a new thread. Mods, please lock/move/delete as needed.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showpost.php?p=7777400&postcount=67
ESS:
I believe you are mistaken. As AckM3 pointed out, I have SS v2 headers/racecats installed.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showpost.php?p=7777293&postcount=66
Ravij:
I am sure your car run faster than mine, but having me murdered would be a little too much don't you think? :P

Yes I did try to sell the kit. But I decided to keep it after considering a few factors.

The problem the kit was/is CEL, which I had communicated with ESS for more than 2 years since I purchased the kit with unsatisfactory result. This is another issue which I am still hesitant to share at the moment.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showpost.php?p=7776819&postcount=65
DLSJ5:
I have not been able to find a suitable shop that is able to perform dyno testing on an SMG car. Unless you know of a local shop in Seattle area, I would like to find that out myself.

If anyone has any questions, please PM me directly.

[Asbjorn@ESS]

Hi,

If your Supersprint cats throw a cat efficiency code there are a few things you can do :

1. Remove cat check function (will not pass OBD2 emissions O2 readiness scan in the US - will report cat check as incomplete)
2. Reprogram DME with larger tolerance margins for cat check function (illegal in the US to do)
3. Extend the rear O2 sensors out of the exhaust stream using a bung.

This is however not a SC related issue, it is simply the DME cat monitoring system not being satisifed with your cat function. It has no impact on performance. If you use OEM Euro cats with your headers this is never an issue at all, and some SS cats do not throw this code either for some reason. I think they are border line efficient based on my experience.

Any impressions on the kits function and durability during the 3 years you have had it?

Are you also aware there is a 7.5PSI upgrade with matching software available?

As far as dyno mode RPM limiting, this function can be removed in all ESS MSS54 software and comes standard with all new software versions, or it can be temporarily disabled using a BMW GT1.

[Asbjorn@ESS]

Did you also know there is a 7.5PSI upgrade available for your kit with new race tuned software? This boost upgrade kit for sure prevents murder by fellow board members..:4ngie:

This software can be had with cat monitoring and dyno limiters deactivated. If WA does the OBD2 port scan it will as I said not present cat check as performed (illegal in the US to manipulate emissions test results), but there are no error codes or CEL due to the low SSv2 cat efficiency.

[M3Newbie]

Hi,

My name is Billy, and I have communicated with you in regards to the CEL for 2 years after having the SC installed. The last communication I had with you was early last year 2007, a follow up on the request made since ownership to have my DME reflashed as part of the troubleshooting effort.

During the course of emails that we had in 10/2006 till 5/2007, you kept pointing out that problem lies with the SS cats I had installed. I had conveyed to you that I would like to have the DME reflashed first, before I proceed further steps to solve it. 2-3 weeks after the last email, I reached you over the phone to request an update. You told me that ESS will be going forward with other projects, and have no intention on updating the software that I have on. Yet i find your reply a little disturbing to find that there are new software versions available. This is just a brief recap to jog your memory, and I will be glad to forward all these emails conversation as reference.

The kit, as far as I know, is running fine. Apart from running a little rich through smelling the exhaust fumes only, there are no collected data to substantiate this.

I had not really pushed the car to its supposed said performance due to the reasons of the customer support I had gotten so far, so I do not have any feedbacks performance wise. As of right now, it is a love/hate relationship between me and my car.

[M3Newbie]

Did you also know there is a 7.5PSI upgrade available for your kit with new race tuned software? This boost upgrade kit for sure prevents murder by fellow board members..:4ngie:

This software can be had with cat monitoring and dyno limiters deactivated. If WA does the OBD2 port scan it will as I said not present cat check as performed (illegal in the US to manipulate emissions test results), but there are no error codes or CEL due to the low SSv2 cat efficiency.

As I recollect, I did send a couple of email requesting more information on this. But I never did get a reply.

[Ravij]

The original thread was closed, so I had to open a new thread. Mods, please lock/move/delete as needed.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showpost.php?p=7777400&postcount=67
ESS:
I believe you are mistaken. As AckM3 pointed out, I have SS v2 headers/racecats installed.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showpost.php?p=7777293&postcount=66
Ravij:
I am sure your car run faster than mine, but having me murdered would be a little too much don't you think? :P

Yes I did try to sell the kit. But I decided to keep it after considering a few factors.

The problem the kit was/is CEL, which I had communicated with ESS for more than 2 years since I purchased the kit with unsatisfactory result. This is another issue which I am still hesitant to share at the moment.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showpost.php?p=7776819&postcount=65
DLSJ5:
I have not been able to find a suitable shop that is able to perform dyno testing on an SMG car. Unless you know of a local shop in Seattle area, I would like to find that out myself.

If anyone has any questions, please PM me directly.

Hey Billy!
Whats up? hahaha! I was just poking some fun!

I havent seen you in awhile! I saw some pics of your car at the sea/van meet! It looks good! You should of came to rr!

The times we did meet, I remember you having some issues... But you were very vague.

Hope all is well,

Ps my uncle had a supercharger kit by ess on his 99 e36 m3, that was a nightmare!

But the e46 m3 sc looks solid!

[Asbjorn@ESS]

With growing HP competition and a lot of VT2 customer requests, we decided to develop bolt-on versions of the kit with more than the 5 and 6PSI initially offered, now we offer 7.5PSI and soon 13PSI (with new pistons). The VT2 kit you have is capable of 680-690HP and it is exactly the same kit used to break the Nürburgring record in 2007.

The car can not run rich as it is programmed with closed loop O2 control and adaptation active. It is however programmed to run richer than stock during high load due to the boost and this will make your exhaust tips a little darker than stock.

This kit was built to be abused, and will hold up with everything you throw at it as long as all fuel metering/pressure systems are working properly (verified by a dyno with AF logging during WOT).

We can however not assume any responsability for the efficiency of SuperSprint aftermarket race cats. What we can do is as I said deactivate the check function in the DME.

[Asbjorn@ESS]

As I recollect, I did send a couple of email requesting more information on this. But I never did get a reply.

Why not give us a call? Our email system is very overloaded with many hundred emails every day. If you need info fast, pick up the phone!:)

[Asbjorn@ESS]

Hey Billy!
Whats up? hahaha! I was just poking some fun!

I havent seen you in awhile! I saw some pics of your car at the sea/van meet! It looks good! You should of came to rr!

The times we did meet, I remember you having some issues... But you were very vague.

Hope all is well,

Ps my uncle had a supercharger kit by ess on his 99 e36 m3, that was a nightmare!

But the e46 m3 sc looks solid!

We discontinued our E36 systems over 6 years ago, but if your uncle has any problems have him contact us as we still offer spare parts and support for them. The old ESS E36 M3 Vortech kit is a solid kit, but it relies on correct fuel pressure and MAF signal to operate correctly. These factors (bad MAF or bad fuel pump) is the common issues with the E36 M3's.

If your uncle had a problem he was sure was ESS related as you seem to be, he should simply pick up the phone and demand a ESS tech on site, a free service if the problem is ESS hardware/software related. I must however warn you that free tech trips are very far between as other car systems or installation issues are normally the problem.

[todeshandler]

haha ess on cleanup duty. sounds like your customer services skills are even less than that of AA and VF that you take so much enjoyment in pointing out.

[TxZHP04]

haha ess on cleanup duty. sounds like your customer services skills are even less than that of AA and VF that you take so much enjoyment in pointing out.

I can speak first hand to the quality of ESS customer service - it's top notch. :thumbsup:

If people don't contact ESS or follow their advice, then the problem doesn't lie with ESS. :banghead:

[todeshandler]

Well I'm glad you had a different expierence than that of the OP but I doubt that the OP feels any better about his situation knowing you got better/different service than he did.

[sheefo2k]

haha ess on cleanup duty. sounds like your customer services skills are even less than that of AA and VF that you take so much enjoyment in pointing out.
Dude, what are you talking about??

I dont even own an ESS kit (I m not an ESS *****) I own TE (out of bussinesS) and ESS helped me out with my kit and install and all the questions I had for them. Tons of phone calls and all the support I could ask for from any company. Especially when I didn't even purchase anything from them.

[MachRc]

Well I'm glad you had a different expierence than that of the OP but I doubt that the OP feels any better about his situation knowing you got better/different service than he did.





only retards view ESS customer service as a whole by reading threads in an open forum where any1 can post.



if you every dealt with them and purchased stuff from them, they are top notch.


and the
the OP is having problems with his CAT throwing a check engine light..
which has nothing to do with a ESS supercharger or any of its products.

its the removal of cats by installing aftermarket headers..
aj is pointing this out and giving him solutions..

are all vf aa fans this rude and dumb?

do you even have a vf or aa kit?

[sheefo2k]

only retards view ESS customer service as a whole by reading threads in an open forum where any1 can post.



if you every dealt with them and purchased stuff from them, they are top notch.


and the
the OP is having problems with his CAT throwing a check engine light..
which has nothing to do with a ESS supercharger or any of its products.

its the removal of cats by installing aftermarket headers..
aj is pointing this out and giving him solutions..

are all vf aa fans this rude and dumb?

do you even have a vf or aa kit?
ooo burn!!!

[02PRUV]

Just out of interest, why can't you just turn the cat sensing O2's off. That's what everyone else does? Who cares if it doesn't comply with emissions any more. That's the owners problem. Just advise that this is the case and your setup is done for track use and then ESS is covered if anything comes back to them. At least he doesn't have a CEL. Just a thought?

[todeshandler]

Glad that the OPs experience seems to be out of the norm. Still sucks for the original poster.

[BimmerDude18]

Just out of interest, why can't you just turn the cat sensing O2's off. That's what everyone else does? Who cares if it doesn't comply with emissions any more. That's the owners problem. Just advise that this is the case and your setup is done for track use and then ESS is covered if anything comes back to them. At least he doesn't have a CEL. Just a thought?

He said they could, dunno if it was offered before but it has been now.

[M3Newbie]

This thread is becoming out of hands. And this is not helping me at all. I am trying to find a solution with ESS, not to be meant as a flame thread.

I will post a proper feedback once a satisfactory solution has been reached between me and ESS. So I would appreciate a post on solution rather than having this thread become a non informative thread.

This is the reason why I am reluctant to post anything during the past years of ownership.

Again, I would appreciate responses with information solutionsonly, not another flame thread.

Thanks
B

[todeshandler]

Honestly your best option if you want to keep the kit and not have to depend on ESS to reflash your ECU you should just replace your SS cats with OEM Euro cats. Removing the cat check function will make your car fail smog inspection if WA does indeed require smog checks.

[BimmerDude18]

Personally, I would just call ESS when you get a chance and discuss it on the phone. Send a follow up e-mail for verification and go from there. The only options we can give are to put in non-foulers (as ESS eluded to) or to get it reflashed.

[M3Newbie]

Honestly your best option if you want to keep the kit and not have to depend on ESS to reflash your ECU you should just replace your SS cats with OEM Euro cats. Removing the cat check function will make your car fail smog inspection if WA does indeed require smog checks.

WA state does require emission testing, and I have fallen into that situation yet.
I have also thought of replacing the SS pieces with OEM Euro parts, but what happen if I still require ESS to reflash it again? I still need to approach ESS about that.

TBH, I did not expect a response from ESS after all this time. But AJ responded to this thread and presented me a different options, I will have to consider this carefully if this is still available.

Here are the list of options that was presented to me, after conferring with other enthusiast (mostly from ESS email correspondence):
1. Replace O2 sensors (done)
2. Check wiring (done - 2 shop (@dealer w/mech who did the install, independent shop))
3. Remove rear 02 sensors (shop time)
4. Install rear o2 sims (shop time)
5. Replace SS parts w/ OEM Euro parts (shop time)
6. Reflash DME w/updates
7. Complete removal (sorry guys, this is not gonna happen any time soon :P)

Since AJ showed that he is willing to work with me on this by having the DME reflashed (if the offer still stands), I will
seriously consider doing it after I have gotten more info.

Thanks
B

[BimmerDude18]

The reflash will just keep the light from coming on, it won't remove the fault code. By removing the O2 sensors I believe he just meant move them away from the main stream of exhaust gases. Many people buy spark plug non-fouler's from autozone and grind the center out so the O2 sensor can stick through, its then a direct bolt in to the exhaust system. As far as if it works, not sure. O2 sims, if you can find good ones, will work perfectly. Euro parts should work as well.

[Asbjorn@ESS]

WA state does require emission testing, and I have fallen into that situation yet.
I have also thought of replacing the SS pieces with OEM Euro parts, but what happen if I still require ESS to reflash it again? I still need to approach ESS about that.

TBH, I did not expect a response from ESS after all this time. But AJ responded to this thread and presented me a different options, I will have to consider this carefully if this is still available.

Here are the list of options that was presented to me, after conferring with other enthusiast (mostly from ESS email correspondence):
1. Replace O2 sensors (done)
2. Check wiring (done - 2 shop (@dealer w/mech who did the install, independent shop))
3. Remove rear 02 sensors (shop time)
4. Install rear o2 sims (shop time)
5. Replace SS parts w/ OEM Euro parts (shop time)
6. Reflash DME w/updates

Since AJ showed that he is willing to work with me on this by having the DME reflashed (if the offer still stands), I will
seriously consider doing it after I have gotten more info.

Thanks


Try to extend the rear O2's first using non-foulers, if not we will reflash the DME with a no-cat check version for free. This tune will however not report cat check as completed when scanned by emission control station.


7. Complete removal (sorry guys, this is not gonna happen any time soon :P)


You are aware that it is not the SC kit causing the CEL? Even if you take it off you will still throw a cat CEL if the cats are not efficient enough.

Also, when contacting us by email, if you have not received a reply within 48H do call us as your email has most likely fallen through the cracks somewhere. It is much better to call us than to assume we do not get back to you on purpose. I have also tried to tell you many times before : A cat inefficiency CEL with SS cats is not an ESS issue or even our responsibility to correct. We will however do all we can to help you out.

[EIAlfonso]

I can speak first hand to the quality of ESS customer service - it's top notch. :thumbsup:

If people don't contact ESS or follow their advice, then the problem doesn't lie with ESS. :banghead:


They went above and beyond for me and spent thousands out of pocket for something that wasn't even their fault.

No one has a 100% record, but it just seems that way when I've dealt with them.

[kevinterkelsen]

I have also had only great experiences with ESS - great guys, great service and great kits!

[M3Newbie]

Hi,

The reflash will just keep the light from coming on, it won't remove the fault code. By removing the O2 sensors I believe he just meant move them away from the main stream of exhaust gases. Many people buy spark plug non-fouler's from autozone and grind the center out so the O2 sensor can stick through, its then a direct bolt in to the exhaust system. As far as if it works, not sure. O2 sims, if you can find good ones, will work perfectly. Euro parts should work as well.

Thanks, I will add this. Do you have a reference or information that you could PM me directly for O2 sims? Much appreciated.

2. Reprogram DME with larger tolerance margins for cat check function (illegal in the US to do).

If I recall, BMW had an unannounced SB for this. This info was passed to me from the tech in BMW, will need further research on
this.
As far as dyno mode RPM limiting, this function can be removed in all ESS MSS54 software and comes standard with all new software
versions, or it can be temporarily disabled using a BMW GT1.


Does my current version of the software have this feature? It will be a great if it does so I won't have to hunt down a dyno shop that has a GT1 on their site, and be able finally to see some numbers.
Try to extend the rear O2's first using non-foulers, if not we will reflash the DME with a no-cat check version for free. This tune will however not report cat check as completed when scanned by emission control station.

Do i need to do this first? Or would I be able to just get a reflash? This would eliminate the DME part.

Also, when contacting us by email, if you have not received a reply within 48H do call us as your email has most likely fallen through the cracks somewhere. It is much better to call us than to assume we do not get back to you on purpose. I have also tried to tell you many times before : A cat inefficiency CEL with SS cats is not a ESS issue or even our responsibility to correct. We will however do all we can to help you out.

Do we have to go through all this again? Yes, you did point that out to me on numerous times. And every single time, the fault is always on other parts. But never once were your replies even suggest that on good faith, you were willing to eliminate that the DME was not part of the problem. This is beside the point however, that now I have your attention for the moment and you are willing to work with me now after nearly 3 years. I do not wish that this dialogue end by pointing fingers which parts are at fault, since this will lead to an endless circle.

I do have some other non related questions however, if you don't mind answering.

1. I used an Actron 9180 to delete the CEL, and was able to pull the VIN #. But the VIN # pulled is different than the one issued to my vehicle. Is this intentional?

2. BMW release a recall that deals with OBDII connection issue, does your software addresses this as well?

Thanks
B

[M3Newbie]

Hey Billy!
Whats up? hahaha! I was just poking some fun!

I havent seen you in awhile! I saw some pics of your car at the sea/van meet! It looks good! You should of came to rr!

The times we did meet, I remember you having some issues... But you were very vague.

Hope all is well,

Ps my uncle had a supercharger kit by ess on his 99 e36 m3, that was a nightmare!

But the e46 m3 sc looks solid!

Hey,
Didn't ment to ignore your post. Got caught up trying to reply to the thread without causing too much drama. But it seems it's a little too late for that.

Should meet up next time we have a meet or just PM me if you want to come out for a coffee :)

Cheers
B

[M3Newbie]

They went above and beyond for me and spent thousands out of pocket for something that wasn't even their fault.

No one has a 100% record, but it just seems that way when I've dealt with them.

I have also had only great experiences with ESS - great guys, great service and great kits!

Thats good to hear that both of you had good experience. Have fun with your toys :)

B

[M3Newbie]

Hello all,

Thanks for reading this thread, but I would like a formal request to posters to keep the name calling, vendor hate, etc etc. to non existent. This is not helping me at all and never intended at all for this thread. It is difficult to shift through all the clutters :)

I would appreciate it if you could only post information that benefits both ESS and me, and hopefully come to a conclusion.

Thanks
B

[Asbjorn@ESS]

Hi,



Thanks, I will add this. Do you have a reference or information that you could PM me directly for O2 sims? Much appreciated.



If I recall, BMW had an unannounced SB for this. This info was passed to me from the tech in BMW, will need further research on
this.


Does my current version of the software have this feature? It will be a great if it does so I won't have to hunt down a dyno shop that has a GT1 on their site, and be able finally to see some numbers.


Do i need to do this first? Or would I be able to just get a reflash? This would eliminate the DME part.



Do we have to go through all this again? Yes, you did point that out to me on numerous times. And every single time, the fault is always on other parts. But never once were your replies even suggest that on good faith, you were willing to eliminate that the DME was not part of the problem. This is beside the point however, that now I have your attention for the moment and you are willing to work with me now after nearly 3 years. I do not wish that this dialogue end by pointing fingers which parts are at fault, since this will lead to an endless circle.

I do have some other non related questions however, if you don't mind answering.

1. I used an Actron 9180 to delete the CEL, and was able to pull the VIN #. But the VIN # pulled is different than the one issued to my vehicle. Is this intentional?

2. BMW release a recall that deals with OBDII connection issue, does your software addresses this as well?

Thanks
B

The non-foulers (moving secondary O2 sensors out of the direct exhaust stream) is a trick used to make cats appear to work better than they do. The reason we se no reason to check the DME software is that we use the exact same software in all VT2 kits (and yes it has a new ID number), and it comes with OEM BMW cat monitoring programming. It is your SS cats, and only your SS cats causing a low efficiency CEL. There is no point in even debating it as we have 100+ cars with identical setup and software with no CEL as long as OEM BMW Euro cats or properly functioning aftermarket cats are used.

If the non-foulers does not work we can reprogram the DME to not check for cat function.

Your software version does have the dyno limiter active and requires a GT1 to dyno over 6K RPM.

And it sounds like I have not wanted to work with you? I told you this exact same thing several times last time we exchanged emails and since then we have not heard from you. I even told you to take it up with SuperSprint as it is really their problem. Perhaps they can send you a pair of new cats that do work sufficiently? We have however NEVER denied you free service and support, even if your warranty is up and we have nothing to do with your CEL issue.

[BimmerDude18]

Yeah, dude, if the code is for the cats, why are you blaming the SC supplier.

They can reprogram the car to not turn the CEL on, but in a smog check the car will still fail. You can get more efficient cats or trick the car into thinking those work, which will get you past at least the computer portion of a smog test. If they do a sniffer test you might fail that if you just trick the computer.

You're complaining to ESS about not cooperating when a supersprint part is faulty.

[M3Newbie]

The non-foulers (moving secondary O2 sensors out of the direct exhaust stream) is a trick used to make cats appear to work better than they do. The reason we se no reason to check the DME software is that we use the exact same software in all VT2 kits (and yes it has a new ID number), and it comes with OEM BMW cat monitoring programming. It is your SS cats, and only your SS cats causing a low efficiency CEL. There is no point in even debating it as we have 100+ cars with identical setup and software with no CEL as long as OEM BMW Euro cats or properly functioning aftermarket cats are used.

If the non-foulers does not work we can reprogram the DME to not check for cat function.

Your software version does have the dyno limiter active and requires a GT1 to dyno over 6K RPM.

And it sounds like I have not wanted to work with you? I told you this exact same thing several times last time we exchanged emails and since then we have not heard from you. I even told you to take it up with SuperSprint as it is really their problem. Perhaps they can send you a pair of new cats that do work sufficiently? We have however NEVER denied you free service and support, even if your warranty is up and we have nothing to do with your CEL issue.

Let me put it simply then.

I am asking you to help me reflash the DME because I want this to be part of the troubleshooting step. Is ESS willing to support or not?

[M3Newbie]

Yeah, dude, if the code is for the cats, why are you blaming the SC supplier.

They can reprogram the car to not turn the CEL on, but in a smog check the car will still fail. You can get more efficient cats or trick the car into thinking those work, which will get you past at least the computer portion of a smog test. If they do a sniffer test you might fail that if you just trick the computer.

You're complaining to ESS about not cooperating when a supersprint part is faulty.

Sir,

Do you currently own/purchase an ESS kit?
What type/model?
How long have you own it?
How did you communicate with ESS all this time?
Did you contact ESS Norway or their US based affiliates?
Did you do the install yourself?

Appreciate it if you can supply me this.
Thanks
B

[TxZHP04]

Let me put it simply then.

I am asking you to help me reflash the DME because I want this to be part of the troubleshooting step. Is ESS willing to support or not?

What exactly would you be troubleshooting by doing this? :hmm:

The DME is merely reporting a problem that has been detected. Telling it not to report the problem doesn't prove anything and also doesn't solve the underlying problem. If you just want the CEL to go away, you should make it clear that that is your goal.

If I were ESS, I would be concerned that if you were given a reflash to hide the CEL that you would be happy now and then back complaining to the forums in 6 months or a year that you didn't pass emissions and that it's all because of problems with their SC.

[M3Newbie]

What exactly would you be troubleshooting by doing this? :hmm:

The DME is merely reporting a problem that has been detected. Telling it not to report the problem doesn't prove anything and also doesn't solve the underlying problem. If you just want the CEL to go away, you should make it clear that that is your goal.

If I were ESS, I would be concerned that if you were given a reflash to hide the CEL that you would be happy now and then back complaining to the forums in 6 months or a year that you didn't pass emissions and that it's all because of problems with their SC.

Good point there. If you wouldn't mind reading post #2, there are three options ESS offered. I am more interested in point number 2 of the option, because it coincides with an unannounced SB by BMW that they increased their level of threshold as well. But I never got to asking the question to ESS about that and other features that were not available to me previously.

And why would it be a concern that I would come back in 6 months with problem with emission? ESS has stated that it is not foolproof for the emission? If I accepted that fact and have ESS put it on, won't I be also agreeing that ESS is at no fault as well because a customer asked for it and they are trying to keep the customer happy?

[Asbjorn@ESS]

Sure thing, we will reflash it with no cat check and dyno limiter removed for free. Just send your DME to our Phoenix office at your convenience.

[M3Newbie]

What exactly would you be troubleshooting by doing this? :hmm:

The DME is merely reporting a problem that has been detected. Telling it not to report the problem doesn't prove anything and also doesn't solve the underlying problem. If you just want the CEL to go away, you should make it clear that that is your goal.

If I were ESS, I would be concerned that if you were given a reflash to hide the CEL that you would be happy now and then back complaining to the forums in 6 months or a year that you didn't pass emissions and that it's all because of problems with their SC.

Thank you. I will send an email with more questions in regards to the options that you posted and the upgrades for my current kit.

Thanks
B

[BimmerDude18]

Sir,

Do you currently own/purchase an ESS kit?
What type/model?
How long have you own it?
How did you communicate with ESS all this time?
Did you contact ESS Norway or their US based affiliates?
Did you do the install yourself?

Appreciate it if you can supply me this.
Thanks
B
ESS doesn't make anything for my car, but I was trying to explain to you what they were saying.

The problem is - you weren't conveying that you would be ok with just the CEL being "turned off" while the code is still present in the DME. If you go to have your vehicle inspected an error will be reported and ESS was trying to establish that you were ok with that.

No worries, I'm just happy to see an ESS M3 in the states and running for a long time, I hadn't heard of any at all.

[M3Newbie]

ESS doesn't make anything for my car, but I was trying to explain to you what they were saying.

The problem is - you weren't conveying that you would be ok with just the CEL being "turned off" while the code is still present in the DME. If you go to have your vehicle inspected an error will be reported and ESS was trying to establish that you were ok with that.

No worries, I'm just happy to see an ESS M3 in the states and running for a long time, I hadn't heard of any at all.

I maybe been too hasty by asking you those questions, and thank you for clarifying that up.

You may have misunderstood the posts I have done, or I might have written it in ways that was not poping out in the first place. But all is good now.

One thing I need to say is this. In all the time I have the kit on the car, I have never had a problem with it at all. The quality wise of their product were never in question, else my car will be in the shop all these time. :)

There were other ESS kit installed on E46 M3, as far as I know of. But never made it to the boards. ESS is more known in the eastern part of the globe, and their presence here in the states are more recent.

I am somewhat excited as well, since I will be able to really test out the potential of this car.

Cheers
B

[BimmerDude18]

I maybe been too hasty by asking you those questions, and thank you for clarifying that up.

You may have misunderstood the posts I have done, or I might have written it in ways that was not poping out in the first place. But all is good now.

One thing I need to say is this. In all the time I have the kit on the car, I have never had a problem with it at all. The quality wise of their product were never in question, else my car will be in the shop all these time. :)

There were other ESS kit installed on E46 M3, as far as I know of. But never made it to the boards. ESS is more known in the eastern part of the globe, and their presence here in the states are more recent.

I am somewhat excited as well, since I will be able to really test out the potential of this car.

Cheers
B

Glad to hear it and I welcome you to the boards, you appear to be a fairly new member. The only M3 kits I have experience with are the AA gen 3's. The great thing about what I've seen so far, is that all 4 of the big players in the M3 market (5 if you count Dinan) produce products that are reliable, well put together, and make the M3 all that more enjoyable.

[M3Newbie]

Thanks, I have been on this board since mid 04. Never had anything worthwhile to post. Hopefully, I should have something to write about soon.

Cheers
B