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n2Bimmer
05-01-2008, 12:38 PM
Looking at this thread got me thinking. :4ngie:, what if i put Nos on my little 325, what if.http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=207844, what you guys think.

kpeng
05-01-2008, 12:40 PM
It's been done. A 50 shot is perfectly safe. A 75 shot will require timing adjustment.

And it's nitrous, not "NOOOOSSSS", that's just a brand...a crappy brand at that.

n2Bimmer
05-01-2008, 12:46 PM
lol, ya that was just a way to grab peeps attention.lol, what you mean by timing adjustment, im sorry.

DADON4SHO
05-01-2008, 12:52 PM
how much willa set up like this would cost?
323i?
thanks!

2000_328CI
05-01-2008, 12:57 PM
silly idea... just my 2 cents

n2Bimmer
05-01-2008, 01:00 PM
i would like to know too.

n2Bimmer
05-01-2008, 01:00 PM
but the guys that did that setup is in the UK.

kpeng
05-01-2008, 01:00 PM
It's not silly at all. If done properly, it can be safe and a great way to add power.

kpeng
05-01-2008, 01:01 PM
but the guys that did that setup is in the UK.

You obviously haven't put too much thought into this have you?

Look at Akbrazil's thread in Forced Induction entitled "NITROUS!!!"

n2Bimmer
05-01-2008, 01:03 PM
lol, no i havent im looking into now, tnx bro

MysticDroptop
05-01-2008, 01:09 PM
It's not silly at all. If done properly, it can be safe and a great way to add power.

+1. As long as you do it correctly with all the safeties you're fine. Make sure you educate yourself on the subject first though before you **** something up.

DADON4SHO
05-01-2008, 01:25 PM
price range?

n2Bimmer
05-01-2008, 01:26 PM
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=538323&highlight=Nitrous

kpeng
05-01-2008, 01:27 PM
I would say if you were internet savvy, you can do a very good setup with window switch/remote bottle opener/bottle warmer for <$1000.

n2Bimmer
05-01-2008, 01:27 PM
im veryyyy intrested, my little 325 is beggin for power, hehehe.

n2Bimmer
05-01-2008, 01:28 PM
na i dont need all that switch stuff, just basic good and right way stuff.

n2Bimmer
05-01-2008, 01:29 PM
is a window switch neccasay, whats it for. im still searching. tnx guys.

kpeng
05-01-2008, 01:34 PM
Uh...you WILL need the "switch stuff".

Please do some more research before you start doing anything.

Window switch = allows you to adjust the RPM range where you spray, you can set it to spray between say...2000 RPM and 6500 RPM. So you don't spray when you hit the rev limiter. That could equal bad.

WOT switch = completely necessary if your car is drive-by-wire, and I think your car is...it's how you would trigger the nitrous kit to start spraying (when you're at wide-open-throttle).

I would suggest looking into the NX Express FJO Mini-Controller, which is both of those things built into one. All programmable via USB.

kpeng
05-01-2008, 01:37 PM
And FWIW, you should talk to ritos530i, akbrazil, and pei330ci...all 3 are very knowledgable (far more than me) on the subject.

n2Bimmer
05-01-2008, 01:38 PM
cool bro ,txn alot. so why arent more people doing this if its not risky if done right.

Uh...you WILL need the "switch stuff".

Please do some more research before you start doing anything.

Window switch = allows you to adjust the RPM range where you spray, you can set it to spray between say...2000 RPM and 6500 RPM. So you don't spray when you hit the rev limiter. That could equal bad.

WOT switch = completely necessary if your car is drive-by-wire, and I think your car is...it's how you would trigger the nitrous kit to start spraying (when you're at wide-open-throttle).

I would suggest looking into the NX Express FJO Mini-Controller, which is both of those things built into one. All programmable via USB.

kpeng
05-01-2008, 01:41 PM
Because...

A) People have a false notion that nitrous is rice, and will blow your car up no matter what (thanks to Fast & The Furious)

B) It's more for straight-line performance.

n2Bimmer
05-01-2008, 01:54 PM
well ya, but im only plannig on doing just 50 for now. hehe.

n2Bimmer
05-01-2008, 01:57 PM
okay so i have alot of researching to do for example what stuff i need etc, but if you guys are willing to speed up that proccess that would be excellent. I would most likely have a shop to do it. tnx guys. tnx kpeng. Still enjoying my Kpeng exhaust aka muffler delete. tnx. lol

kpeng
05-01-2008, 02:06 PM
Haha, anytime. Just make sure you do your research. Never dive into anything like this without arming yourself with knowledge!!!

n2Bimmer
05-01-2008, 02:13 PM
well ill have a shop do it sooo, wont that sorta be like theyll do all the worring. lol

ALPIN3
05-01-2008, 02:16 PM
silly idea... just my 2 cents

I hate it when you post.

ALPIN3
05-01-2008, 02:18 PM
...and as Ken stated, installed properly its not dangerous and a great way to add power...but the only downfall is the addiction, leading to refill costs. Everyone with nitrous on the forum seems very pleased with the results.

n2Bimmer
05-01-2008, 02:32 PM
I hate it when you post.

LMAO, i was thinking the same thing, sorta like the ebay headers. lol

n2Bimmer
05-01-2008, 05:14 PM
i think im getting NX pretty soon. heheh

k7780446
05-01-2008, 05:20 PM
how much is it to fill a bottle (not sre the size but like a average bottle)

Lane M-K
05-01-2008, 05:24 PM
I hate it when you post.

Big :werd: Never has a clue what he's talking about.

how much is it to fill a bottle (not sre the size but like a average bottle)

If you get a 10lb bottle it would be +/- $40 to fill up.

n2Bimmer
05-01-2008, 05:27 PM
where can we fill em up.

328iBMW
05-01-2008, 05:28 PM
where can we fill em up.

And how long do they last (or how often do they need filled?)?

n2Bimmer
05-01-2008, 05:35 PM
And how long do they last (or how often do they need filled?)?

about 10 or so times.

kpeng
05-01-2008, 06:18 PM
It doesn't last about "10 times or so", it depends on how much you use it, and how long you spray each time you do use it. Obviously if you go around racing people on the road all the time, or go out to the track alot, it won't last as long.

Around here, it's about $3 a lbs. to fill up. Prices usually vary between $3-$4. Cheaper to fill up than your tank of gas, lol.

n2Bimmer
05-01-2008, 07:06 PM
hehe, sorry im still learning but i did my homework, am i want it. hey are you ever gna get it.

kcalhoun27
05-01-2008, 07:09 PM
FWIW, the how things work website has some useful info on the basics of how nitrous works. its pretty interesting. i read the whole thread titled "NITROUS" and think it woul be a fun alternative for power when done right. and there will be people who will say that after a few fill-ups it will equal the cost of a S/C, but i dont agree with that logic. its true but it will take quite a bit of time and i dont think that should stop you if its what you want. good luck either way. and do a good DIY for the guys that follow you. :thumbsup:

n2Bimmer
05-01-2008, 07:14 PM
im going to have a shop do it. i dont get it, a SC is around 10 grand, to fill a bottle is around 30 dollars, how can it be equel to a SC that cost 10 grand or so. how???, i mean im not going to fill it every day.

SK328CI
05-01-2008, 07:16 PM
silly idea... just my 2 cents

why is it a silly idea? :hmm:

n2Bimmer
05-01-2008, 07:21 PM
just 4gt about him

kpeng
05-01-2008, 07:21 PM
im going to have a shop do it. i dont get it, a SC is around 10 grand, to fill a bottle is around 30 dollars, how can it be equel to a SC that cost 10 grand or so. how???, i mean im not going to fill it every day.

A SC is not 10K.

And over time, having to fill up the tank over and over again, those $30 each time will add up. Although it will take a while to add up to the cost of a supercharger, that's the argument a lot of people pose.

kcalhoun27
05-01-2008, 07:27 PM
thanks ken, thats the point i was trying to make. just trying to head off the arguement that its not worth it monetarily. it will all cost the same in the end

n2Bimmer
05-01-2008, 07:38 PM
it will also take a veeerrry long time to add up.

SK328CI
05-01-2008, 07:43 PM
it will also take a veeerrry long time to add up.depends on how often you use it.

i have owned my m3 for about a year.

literal times i have floored it = ~50 (no joke). in NYC, you just dont get the oppurtunity to smash the pedal. those ~50 times were when i was setting up runs with other people/friends.

nitrous would be ideal for me since i barely ever get to push my car.

n2Bimmer
05-01-2008, 07:47 PM
ya me too, dont do it that often.

n2Bimmer
05-01-2008, 07:48 PM
where do you get these filled up. so how is your car so far after a year

kpeng
05-01-2008, 07:51 PM
where do you get these filled up. so how is your car so far after a year

A performance shop that sells nitrous.

n2Bimmer
05-01-2008, 07:56 PM
cool

mistrzmiasta
05-01-2008, 08:12 PM
I hate it when you post.

...and as Ken stated, installed properly its not dangerous and a great way to add power...but the only downfall is the addiction, leading to refill costs. Everyone with nitrous on the forum seems very pleased with the results.


everytime i read a response from you its like you write what im thinking :hi:

southpaw
05-01-2008, 09:20 PM
i know that guy. he is the president of motor werks, EuroMiltiia's sponser, he is really chill and his car is :drool:

n2Bimmer
05-02-2008, 02:38 AM
researching

jhriss
08-14-2008, 04:47 AM
Hey guys, there's a lot more to this if you really want to do it right. If you are just throwing down $1K and getting the stage one zex kit and doing it dry in the air intake manifold, then fine, but if you are already running 375hp like I am on my 330Xi with 8.5 psi, headers, no cats, nitrometh and water/alk system plus a list of 50 more things, it gets complicated, so do your research cause it is completely different for each set up and if you don't want to smoke your engine you need to learn about how to run it, when to use it, and you should definitely have a pro shop install it and do a full tune on the dyno after to be safe. I did a stage 3 kit by venom and the kit alone was $2200 and the install and tune another $1400 and it was well worth it. Just be safe, this is definitely tons of bang for the buck compared to the other $18K I dropped on other engine mods, but it has to be done right. Approach with caution, I have seen way to many kids out at the track blow engines and fry rings and melt pistons heads when detonation occurs and they keep hitting the **** all around the circuit. Don't be cheap and go for a $600 system if you care about your car. It's not worth not having a car at all. I did a 75 shot total and that took a lot of work. In the end it is awesome and I love having it on command at a stop light when some punk Evo or Mustang wants to race. My system not only manage fuel management with an upgraded kit fuel kit, but also came with multiground cooler injectors, rpm monitor, shift monitor, pressure monitor, throttle pos monitor, and much more so it take all into account and if anything is off it shuts down, but at the same time having all this together is so much more efficient then some cheap dry kit that just shoots some nos in and measures the hp delivered with a freakin physical nozzle to control spray. My water alc kit works like that with a a variable valve timer and boost sensor, but still even that' not just a nozzle. Ok, enough, all I'm saying is do it right. I have skimped out before and tried to save $5K or so super charging and it wound up costing me a year of issues and tons more money. Really, if you don't care about 4 doors and AWD like I did to be different, just save the $10K to $30K you'll spend on all the mods and get an M3 or one of new M3's when they come down in price on the used market.

jhriss
08-14-2008, 04:48 AM
I'll post some good links up later to educate those who don't know.

dirsh
08-14-2008, 06:50 AM
if you do it just be sure to monitor your manifold pressure or else your floor panel might fall out

NOVAbimmer
08-14-2008, 07:47 AM
if you do it just be sure to monitor your manifold pressure or else your floor panel might fall out

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

then You'll owe Your car to the local street-racing gang boss

n2Bimmer
08-14-2008, 11:29 AM
tnx guys, but im not going to do this now.

2000_328CI
08-14-2008, 11:36 AM
ken is the shizzz... very solid input in this thread :thumbup:

mattcarle21
08-14-2008, 12:58 PM
Or you guys could just do this and no worries about your car. :rofl:

http://www.ag.auburn.edu/users/parmega/articles/neon/

Nico3k
08-14-2008, 06:45 PM
Or you guys could just do this and no worries about your car. :rofl:

http://www.ag.auburn.edu/users/parmega/articles/neon/

That is a SWEET page

clint999
08-17-2008, 06:10 AM
It's been done. A 50 shot is perfectly safe. A 75 shot will require timing adjustment.

And it's nitrous, not "NOOOOSSSS", that's just a brand...a crappy brand at that.

kpeng
08-17-2008, 10:01 AM
It's been done. A 50 shot is perfectly safe. A 75 shot will require timing adjustment.

And it's nitrous, not "NOOOOSSSS", that's just a brand...a crappy brand at that.

:hmm:

Why'd you copy exactly what I said and post it again?

E46Arash
08-17-2008, 11:16 AM
BTW peoples.
Im selling my NX full wet kit with the FJO controller that KPeng uses. If anyone is intrested let me know. im asking 550 shipped.:thumbsup:
ok thats the end of my thread jack lol

jtrejo
08-17-2008, 02:29 PM
but the guys that did that setup is in the UK.

im in SO CAL but WON is in the UK and bottlefed Racing in socal also contributed with install.

http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm192/motorwerkspower/IMG_2271.jpg

if you have any ?'s call me

josh
951 840 0494