dyno's car today

[2003330i]

can someone please tell me why i have a huge dip of power. i was also supoose to have 9psi but just found out im only running 6.5 but not sure. what kind of boost do you guys think i'm running. i also have the technik headers

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn309/jtaveras13/dyno.jpg

[2003330i]

sorry

[sheefo2k]

sorry for what??
well the dip is because of the zhp software.. I dont think they ever fixed the dip even though they said they did.

[2003330i]

these guys are so messed up. wrong supercharger, wrong pulley,etc

[TxZHP04]

That's not the 4k rpm ZHP power dip. What I find very bizarre is the sudden spike in torque and power at 5200 rpm followed by an immediate falloff. I'm not enough of a dyno expert to recognize what that might be a symptom of - something is definitely not right.

With headers, you've made it easier for the exhaust to flow out of the engine. You might expect to measure reduced boost levels but I don't know if it would explain a 2.5 psi drop.

What SC are you running?

[2003330i]

i'm running the asa tm12. that what i'm not understanding. ics was telling that they are 99% sure that its not the tunning but what else can it be. is this the power that i should be making if i was running 9.5psi and headers. my first dyno of the day was at 281 but thaqt still seems low to me

[malina]

Why did you get this kit when the company making it doesn't exist anymore? :nono:
Feel sorry for you.

[sheefo2k]

he's been boosted for over a year now I believe

[2003330i]

he's been boosted for over a year now I believe

did you ever dyno your car. i saw in another post that you had you said you were over 300whp. do you mind posting that dyno if you have it. also hom much boost are you running

[Minnoe07]

Maybe your timing is being pulled due to any number of issues. Try putting higher octane fuel in and see if that fixes the problem. If it does, then you need better gas.

[2003330i]

Maybe your timing is being pulled due to any number of issues. Try putting higher octane fuel in and see if that fixes the problem. If it does, then you need better gas.

thats what ics told me. i'm gonna try and put 100 octane in and see how the car feels. why would you think it would drop in power and then looks like it goes back to normal

[Activ3]

You're supposed to be on 9.5psi, but you're only getting 6lbs... It looks like your belt is slipping at ~5300rpm, causing the boost to drop along with the power, but torque is minimally affected... do you have an AFR log as well?

[2003330i]

You're supposed to be on 9.5psi, but you're only getting 6lbs... It looks like your belt is slipping at ~5300rpm, causing the boost to drop along with the power, but torque is minimally affected... do you have an AFR log as well?

no i dont sorry. well, when technik sold me this f ing kit it was suppose to be the tm15 but software wasn't ready so they gave me the tm12 at 9.5psi. this is not the case as me and george (beanfree) just found out. our pulley is 6 inches or 6.5psi
that what i'm not understanding. what is going on around 5k rpm because it seems to go back to normal after that

[Activ3]

no i dont sorry. well, when technik sold me this f ing kit it was suppose to be the tm15 but software wasn't ready so they gave me the tm12 at 9.5psi. this is not the case as me and george (beanfree) just found out. our pulley is 6 inches or 6.5psi
that what i'm not understanding. what is going on around 5k rpm because it seems to go back to normal after that

honestly it doesn't seem like it goes back to normal after 5k.

You're HP should rise all the way up to redline, since boost is supposed to rise up to redline as well. I'm going to assume that you don't have a reading of the boost curve either? Do you know what rpm it hits max boost at as-is?

[2003330i]

honestly it doesn't seem like it goes back to normal after 5k.

You're HP should rise all the way up to redline, since boost is supposed to rise up to redline as well. I'm going to assume that you don't have a reading of the boost curve either? Do you know what rpm it hits max boost at as-is?

no i'm going to be installing a boost gauge this weekend so see what boost i'm really running. what do you think it could be. y

i just looked at it and your right. i dont understand what it could be. thanks for pointing that out. as crazy as this sounds can it be a boost leak that only happens by 5krpm. maf sensor dirty. the only reason i have a check engine light is because i have headers

[TxZHP04]

I don't think it's a belt slip issue as I can't see that causing the spike around 5100 - 5200 rpm (particularly obvious in the blue run). It would be interesting to see the AFR for that run. I'm wondering if it didn't go ridiculously lean causing the spike followed immediately by timing getting pulled to drop things back down to a safer level. Unfortunately there's not enough info for me to draw any reasonable conclusions.

Has adequate fuel flow been verified?

Honestly, right now I think the boost level is the least of your concerns.

[2003330i]

I don't think it's a belt slip issue as I can't see that causing the spike around 5100 - 5200 rpm. It would be interesting to see the AFR for that run. I'm wondering if it didn't go ridiculously lean causing the spike followed immediately by timing getting pulled to drop things back down to a safer level. Unfortunately there's not enough info for me to draw any reasonable conclusions.

Has adequate fuel flow been verified?

Honestly, right now I think the boost level is the least of your concerns.

ics was trying to verify the fuel pressure but needed a lil bit more time and they had an appointment on the dyno and couldn't finish. they changed my sparks plug because they said that my car was running lean.

ics also said that this car was tunned by jim conforti and you can't get better tunning than that. they were 99.9% that it wasnt the tunning, but then what could be causing this

[TxZHP04]

To make a car run, you basically need the proper mixture of air and fuel along with a properly timed spark. If, and this is a BIG if at this point, your problem is related to a lean mixture then it basically boils down to either too much air or too little fuel. Have the intake checked for leaks - if it's sucking in unmetered air, the DME won't be supplying enough fuel for proper AFR. If it's not getting unmetered air, then you may not be getting enough fuel. That could be anything from a fuel system leak to a bad pump or regulator/filter. If those things check out, you may have issues with one or more sensors that provide feedback allowing the DME to trim fuel based on actual conditions (MAF, O2).

That said, if ICS still has your car, you probably just need to give them time to finish troubleshooting this.

[Activ3]

no i'm going to be installing a boost gauge this weekend so see what boost i'm really running. what do you think it could be. y

i just looked at it and your right. i dont understand what it could be. thanks for pointing that out. as crazy as this sounds can it be a boost leak that only happens by 5krpm. maf sensor dirty. the only reason i have a check engine light is because i have headers

I would check your codes again. It's really hard to tell without an AFR or boost reading... If your boost curve is consistently rising and linear, then it's probably a timing issue.

[beanfree]

Juan: I stopped getting dynojet dyno's because the mustang guy I go to can give me an ignition timing advance graph as well as a much more detailed boost graph. I have posted some of them in the NE forums. Do a search for dyno's and you will see them. I have no idea what is happening with your car except that I think it suddenly goes very lean (thereby making more power) but then causing detonation and causing the timing to be pulled in a big way. Injectors, bad gas, bad fuel pump, spark plugs etc could be the cause. Note also the smoothness is set at 0 which should cause a very jagged graph. See if they can set it at 4 then we will have a smoother graph to look at. Also ask them for SAE corrected nos. Yours are uncorrected and that does not help.

By the way, there is no zhp dip in my car. The software is really good as far as that is concerned. My dyno's show nice straight lines. There is some detonation in the upper regions but that is normal. Running race gas will end detonation. May I suggest that you ask them for a a/f ratio graph. That will help.

I just got a 125mm pulley made and have had it installed, but am having boost leak issues (might be a bad spring in my new hyperboost hxc diverter valve). Give me a call on the 14th as I am in India right now.

[sheefo2k]

holly **** that dyno just showed up right now!! this whole time i was wtf are pople talking about!!

[sheefo2k]

ics was trying to verify the fuel pressure but needed a lil bit more time and they had an appointment on the dyno and couldn't finish. they changed my sparks plug because they said that my car was running lean.

ics also said that this car was tunned by jim conforti and you can't get better tunning than that. they were 99.9% that it wasnt the tunning, but then what could be causing this
They are right Jim him self tuned our kits and the software is perfect.. zhp had a lil problem but i dont if they fixed that issue or not!!

try fuel for sure

[sheefo2k]

Juan: I stopped getting dynojet dyno's because the mustang guy I go to can give me an ignition timing advance graph as well as a much more detailed boost graph. I have posted some of them in the NE forums. Do a search for dyno's and you will see them. I have no idea what is happening with your car except that I think it suddenly goes very lean (thereby making more power) but then causing detonation and causing the timing to be pulled in a big way. Injectors, bad gas, bad fuel pump, spark plugs etc could be the cause. Note also the smoothness is set at 0 which should cause a very jagged graph. See if they can set it at 4 then we will have a smoother graph to look at. Also ask them for SAE corrected nos. Yours are uncorrected and that does not help.

By the way, there is no zhp dip in my car. The software is really good as far as that is concerned. My dyno's show nice straight lines. There is some detonation in the upper regions but that is normal. Running race gas will end detonation. May I suggest that you ask them for a a/f ratio graph. That will help.

I just got a 125mm pulley made and have had it installed, but am having boost leak issues (might be a bad spring in my new hyperboost hxc diverter valve). Give me a call on the 14th as I am in India right now.
I run 111 on weekends and it cleans everything for me :D

[2003330i]

Juan: I stopped getting dynojet dyno's because the mustang guy I go to can give me an ignition timing advance graph as well as a much more detailed boost graph. I have posted some of them in the NE forums. Do a search for dyno's and you will see them. I have no idea what is happening with your car except that I think it suddenly goes very lean (thereby making more power) but then causing detonation and causing the timing to be pulled in a big way. Injectors, bad gas, bad fuel pump, spark plugs etc could be the cause. Note also the smoothness is set at 0 which should cause a very jagged graph. See if they can set it at 4 then we will have a smoother graph to look at. Also ask them for SAE corrected nos. Yours are uncorrected and that does not help.

By the way, there is no zhp dip in my car. The software is really good as far as that is concerned. My dyno's show nice straight lines. There is some detonation in the upper regions but that is normal. Running race gas will end detonation. May I suggest that you ask them for a a/f ratio graph. That will help.

I just got a 125mm pulley made and have had it installed, but am having boost leak issues (might be a bad spring in my new hyperboost hxc diverter valve). Give me a call on the 14th as I am in India right now.

i will wait for you to get back. i want to find out what the problem is and get this car running right. i dont know where i can get a mustang dyno around here. i might take a ride up by you

[2003330i]

I run 111 on weekends and it cleans everything for me :D

oh my god. your sick. i gonna do a run on a mustang dyno to see what the problem is. then i'm going to try this

[sheefo2k]

I m getting my new driveshaft next week. I plan on dynoing after that and then selling the kit and going turbo!!!

[2003330i]

I m getting my new driveshaft next week. I plan on dynoing after that and then selling the kit and going turbo!!!

this is the last time that i'll be one of the first to put something on my car. this killed me. i would like to go turbo but with all the problems i'm having with something like a supercharger i can only imagine with a turbo. at least there still company out there that have the software for asa

[sheefo2k]

who has the software?? autotalent?

[BimmerDude18]

who has the software?? autotalent?

Yeah.

[HighBoostin330]

this is the last time that i'll be one of the first to put something on my car. this killed me. i would like to go turbo but with all the problems i'm having with something like a supercharger i can only imagine with a turbo. at least there still company out there that have the software for asa

It is not bad to be the first of something. It really boils down to your supercharger company's customer support. In Technik's case, the lack thereof.

[HighBoostin330]

who has the software?? autotalent?

After talking to Benvo, you should ask them which supercharger kit they sell now. :rofl:

[sheefo2k]

which kit do they sell??ESS? or AA lol or is it the sk+

[2003330i]

okay i think i know what the problem is. when i was getting my supercharger installed at azevido the broke the clips on my injector/fuelrail. so i think that could be the issue but wouldn't i be getting a misfire code. i rechecked my codes and the only codes i have are o2 sensor. i've gotten a misfire code before but then would get it fixed and it wouldn't come up again until it got loose again. when i was doing the dyno i didn't have any cel lights on.

where can i find a engine wire harness

[2003330i]

bump

[beanfree]

I'm not sure an engine wire harness is the solution to your problems. First, get a good dyno with detailed a/f ratio's and ignition timing advance. Then you can use that information to narrow down what the problem is.