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Bimmer ///man
07-02-2008, 12:17 AM
Is there anyone beside HPF that makes a turbo for the S54? I love the cars that HPF makes, I was just wondering if anyone else has tackled the task of turboing the s54.

ZachB12
07-02-2008, 01:27 AM
AA but only a custom job

Bimmer ///man
07-02-2008, 02:58 AM
AA but only a custom job

Yeah, that's kind of what I was asking. So, AA is the only other? Does anyone know if Evosport has done one? AEM programming is what has to be used on a project like this right?

02PRUV
07-02-2008, 05:26 AM
We did it with a the factory DME still running and making 470rwhp on 10psi.

Now in the process of doing a built motor and more boost.

mikem7709
07-02-2008, 12:16 PM
I`m sure Mert could rustle one up. :thumbsup:

Chr325is
07-02-2008, 01:43 PM
I`m sure Mert could rustle one up. :thumbsup:
LOL

///M-Pire
07-02-2008, 02:12 PM
Savspeed, situated in South Africa... only prob is i only know of RHD kits from them.

Matt Q
07-02-2008, 05:32 PM
Savspeed, situated in South Africa... only prob is i only know of RHD kits from them.

Yeugh!! Don't mention the war.. I as looking at an E30 they butchered a few days ago.. I don't think their kit bears mentioning.. also their E46 turbo sits where the aircon pump is so 600Hp but NO AIRCON which is pretty crappy for South Africa

rage2
07-02-2008, 06:10 PM
Who's this Mert guy, and why did I argue with him over 4 pages over at m3f? lol

///M-Pire
07-02-2008, 09:24 PM
Yeugh!! Don't mention the war.. I as looking at an E30 they butchered a few days ago.. I don't think their kit bears mentioning.. also their E46 turbo sits where the aircon pump is so 600Hp but NO AIRCON which is pretty crappy for South Africa

yeah that is pretty screwed up, i see with his kit he is not using stock internals whereas HPF is, with a fairly decent amount of power. So is his conversion better suited for daily driving (except no aircon ofcourse lol) or is he just not as "gifted" as HPF

02PRUV
07-03-2008, 01:11 AM
yeah that is pretty screwed up, i see with his kit he is not using stock internals whereas HPF is, with a fairly decent amount of power. So is his conversion better suited for daily driving (except no aircon ofcourse lol) or is he just not as "gifted" as HPF

No at all. Savspeed just have issues with a steering column in the way. I know exactly how they feel. We got our turbo down below the steering column and still above the underbody covers so you can still put the OEM underbody covers and bracing back on (HPF didn't even do this. Which it suprising cause LHD has even more room to play with). But it would of been sooooo much easier ripping out the aircon. Not that we would do that to an M3. Still need some comfort.

Savspeed have made a pretty good kit to come out of South Africa though. And it has been sold to other RHD countries already.

Matt Q
07-03-2008, 02:53 AM
Savspeed have made a pretty good kit to come out of South Africa though. And it has been sold to other RHD countries already.

Good not great and certainly not pretty... Also bare in mind that there's no shortage of car manufacturing quality here... we make the noble and most of the worlds Right Hand drive Bimmers so production quality is good and SA has always had a culture of high quality manufacture.... not cheap but very good quality.

To be fair to the RG's and SAV's of the world I think the problem boils down to R&D budgets... HPF, AA, VF and crew have the whole of North America as a basic client base (excluding shipping O.S.) so that allows a lot of feedback on kits and allows them to spend way more on developing the kits. In South Africa you are talking about a VERY small % of a much smaller country that could even dream of these sorts of kits, maybe a dozen people of so, so the R&D is definitely not as good as US, Euro or Aus.

Respect to SAV for actually building the kit and getting it running.. but I've seen the article on the UK kit they did (Performance BMW) and I've seen other cars they've worked on and the results are NOT pretty... certainly nowhere near as classy as the AA charger I have or the HPF kits I've seen on the forums... their work has a kind of back yard manufactured look to it... not saying it doesn't work, just saying I wouldn't want my M3 looking, sounding or running like that. There also seems to be too much focus here on power without safety... seen a number of vehicles boasting outrageous HP with barely any work done to Suspensions or Brakes.... very very silly.

///M-Pire
07-03-2008, 10:04 AM
seen a number of vehicles boasting outrageous HP with barely any work done to Suspensions or Brakes.... very very silly.

couldnt agree more, minor suspension mods mean nothing when boasting that amount of HP. With that said i respect the path you picked... you have one sick sick car man.

tell me that HPF titanium exhuast you have, are you running that with your SC, if so... more vids!!:excited: and if not more vids anyway!!:bow:

Matt Q
07-03-2008, 10:12 AM
Thanks dude :thumbsup:

I really do love my Jezebel....

The exhaust is off at the moment, however she is getting a supersprint de-cat pipe and when that happens I'll put the HPF exhaust on again for some vids... it's too hectic for everyday use so I'll just put it on for fun for a bit.

Vids will come soon enough, just waiting for good enough weather to crank it up a bit.. last thing I want is the You tube vid of how Jezebel ended up in a ditch :(

M@!

///M-Pire
07-03-2008, 10:12 AM
oops didnt mean to thread jack...

02PRUV
07-03-2008, 11:21 AM
Good not great and certainly not pretty... Also bare in mind that there's no shortage of car manufacturing quality here... we make the noble and most of the worlds Right Hand drive Bimmers so production quality is good and SA has always had a culture of high quality manufacture.... not cheap but very good quality.

To be fair to the RG's and SAV's of the world I think the problem boils down to R&D budgets... HPF, AA, VF and crew have the whole of North America as a basic client base (excluding shipping O.S.) so that allows a lot of feedback on kits and allows them to spend way more on developing the kits. In South Africa you are talking about a VERY small % of a much smaller country that could even dream of these sorts of kits, maybe a dozen people of so, so the R&D is definitely not as good as US, Euro or Aus.

Respect to SAV for actually building the kit and getting it running.. but I've seen the article on the UK kit they did (Performance BMW) and I've seen other cars they've worked on and the results are NOT pretty... certainly nowhere near as classy as the AA charger I have or the HPF kits I've seen on the forums... their work has a kind of back yard manufactured look to it... not saying it doesn't work, just saying I wouldn't want my M3 looking, sounding or running like that. There also seems to be too much focus here on power without safety... seen a number of vehicles boasting outrageous HP with barely any work done to Suspensions or Brakes.... very very silly.

Trust me Australia has the same problem. Not a big market at all. Don't have the numbers of people that the big countries do. Also when it comes to these cars very little numbers are sold here. Till the last couple of years it was like 3,500 BMW's (that's every model) sold Australia wide (I think it's up to 6,500 now). So you can imagine the little number of M3's that were sold.

CortinaD
07-15-2008, 04:23 AM
Trust me Australia has the same problem. Not a big market at all. Don't have the numbers of people that the big countries do. Also when it comes to these cars very little numbers are sold here. Till the last couple of years it was like 3,500 BMW's (that's every model) sold Australia wide (I think it's up to 6,500 now). So you can imagine the little number of M3's that were sold.

Latest BMW Australia magazine put 2007 sales for AU @ 17,197 units. Jan - March 2008 sales are at 4,174

Teen_Tuner
07-15-2008, 09:41 AM
I`m sure Mert could rustle one up. :thumbsup:

Mert's latest project...he is trying to put two gt40r turbos and push it to 44psi....one crazy :censor:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll212/emre_8041/31-aralik-20072016.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll212/emre_8041/31-aralik-20072028.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll212/emre_8041/new20biiger20twins202.jpg

Look at the welding on the down pipes: :banghead:

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll212/emre_8041/DSC03919.jpg

burrito007
07-15-2008, 05:47 PM
that is just crammed in there.

Matt Q
07-16-2008, 03:25 AM
Oh man that engine looks like a dog's breakfast... I've read some pretty Scathing reviews of DA.. wonder if they will actually get that car running?

NorCal Einstein
07-16-2008, 04:29 AM
Look at the welding on the down pipes: :banghead:


Are you really complaining about spot welds?

Mliner
07-16-2008, 06:04 AM
I'm not even done with my car yet...:yikes:

Mliner
07-16-2008, 06:04 AM
I'm not done with my car yet...:yikes: