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ReneBMW
10-15-2008, 06:17 PM
hello people. if you havent allready read my thread on m3forum.net then here it goes again.
i dont drive an e46 (but heart is at the right place), it will be my next.
but for all people who, even after all "good" things said about da, consider buying a kit, pleace read this first, looks like i got all the **** at once.
this thread is not to ditch Mert (but hopefully it will) but to warn as much people as possible.
here comes;

i've had my e36 m3 for 4 years now and i was getting used to the power, 317 bhp. so i opted for FI. after searching a bit i found the well known AA, PPF and also the well known" DA motorsport. the rwinturbo kit he offerde looked good on the pics so a contacted him about a lower price, as 11000 euro's is a lot of money...
i made a deal with Mert for 8500 euro in 3 terms, 500 first, then 4000, and later the other 4000. after the last payment that's when the **** started...
he send me an e-mail in wich he told me where i could buy the turbo chargers cheaper, so i asked him why. His answer; turbo's are not included in the kit for this price.
I told him that we agreed 8500 euro for the KIT. his answer; customer is always right, so he send me the turbo chargers, after he send me a big box with several small parts, gaskets and nuts and bolts, tubes and so on.
but no intercooler, inlet manifold or exhaust manifold's.
i send him a mail when those parts would arrive.
his answer; parts need to be fabricate, do you want the raceport BOV?
I said yes, payed him the extra cash for the raceport and he informed me that he would modify the inlet tubing for the bigger BOV.
several mails later (about 80, questioning about when the rest will arrive) i send him my original ECU for him to tune because he asked me to. send a second ECU because something went wrong with postal service.
week later recieved a mail that he recieved 2 ECU's. so i told him to keep one original and send it back, and tune the other one. and again asked when my LAST box would arrive.
Box would be send one week later. so 2 weeks later, still nothing, no answers on my mails because this joker goes on holliday every week.
finally recieved the "last" box, with a broken fan, 2 exhaust manifolds wich look like ****, a very very bad welded inlet manifold and a damaged intercooler wich leaks and my (he says...) tuned ECU ( the one wich i told him to keep original...).
still a lot of small parts where missing and also intercooler piping and BOV still not here, also the piggyback didn't arrive. so i send him some mails again, asking him to send me the manual by mail so i could see what was missing an tell him what i still needed, this took almost a month, for a manual... when reading the manual i found out half the kit wasnt here, and something else caught my eye; why doent this kit use the lambda sensors? because as the manual says, they have to be removed and not used... stange. i asked him some questions about it and again it took very long to get answers, wich dont sattisfy me.
but still i needed the intercooler piping, BOV, Piggyback and intercooler brackets, so asked him when they would arrive.
"next week" he told me.
soooow, last week i recieved a box, the finally "last" box, again, opened it, and found 2 tubes, with spider webs in it, lookked further thrue the box but found only paper, even a dutch newspaper!
but still no piggyback and intercooler brackets and al small parts i'm still missing.
i send hime some very angry e'mails this week but no answers any more, so i think i'm stucked with a shitty, half turbo system, wich has costed me incl shipping, about 9500 euro, in dollars much more and a very, very bad feeling that i got frauded by such an asswhole. makes me say, **** TURKEY!!! but its just Mert Dastan.
and i feel stupid that i didn't listen to people who told me to drop the Mert bastard and pay a bit more for a good working, nice finish SC or turbo kit from a company with a good service.
i feel soooo ****ed, just wanted to share my story with some one.
if somebody else reads this and has the same experience, please tell me and contact me, because me and my lawyer need a lot of evidence

o yeah, the Mert asswipe stole my other ECU as he dont want to send it back.

gues i stay to N/A for a while as Mert ripped me from a lot of money.

and if someone wants to buy the pieces i have, just bid and ask for pics.

here sort of an update;
after i placed this thread Mert wanted me to delete this thread, then he would send me the rest of the parts, so nothing left to do but waiting...
he has send me several e-mails in wich he asked me "please remove the threa"d because parts are send".
so what i should have recieved where;
-a new turbosmart raceport bov
-a new morristech piggyback
-intercooler brackets
-2 banjo bolts (oilplugs) and 4 washers for the turbo oil feed
-2 oil return lines/ fittings
-and a wiring diagram for the tsi.
-2 rear strut towers for the inconvinience, as he said...
-and my own, original ecu.
now, glad i didnt remove the thread because today i recieved my "last" package, again...
what i recieved;
-a used, dirty and damaged raceport without fitting
-a used and opend morristech piggyback wich only was closed by 1 (one!!!) screw
-4 parts of 2 strutbraces.

so i was pretty pissed again and started to mail him again.
he told me the BOV was a new one because it was stored in his "warehouse".
well, it was dirty, scratched and there was a dent. i opend it to find the rubber inside being dirty wich is normal, when used...
the bolt on top was damaged.
so i try on my engine if it stays shut with my vacuum (wich wont be different when turbo is on it) but it didnt, it stayed open, so useless with the original sprin, but the spring he also did not send. and he tells me the kit is tested and proven?! tested? if i test it on my car and find out its not ok, why cant he?
so i send him a mail again to ask when the rest will arrive, "box will be shipped today". yeah right...
then i went away to get my intercooler repaired but the guy told me it was not possible because the hole was near the soldering, and when it gets welded it gets to hot so the solder would melt, ****...
so i send mert another mail that the intercooler was unrepairable.
Mert tells me it had hapend while transported, not at da motorsport...
so, while shipping its normal to pack a grinder with the intercooler?
because thats whats hapend, the grinder made a small hole in it and the MOFO didnt check his quality intercooler, he just send it to belgium.
and right now i take a look at my piggyback to see there is no connection for the MAP tube from inlet manifold, wich should be there according to his instruction manual...
also he refuses to send me the wiring diagram by mail, so i'm a bit stucked right now...
then i send him an angry mail and what i got back is this;

Rene,

This time it is enough.

Do not threaten me. Do what you want. I sent all your parts even after your

thread.

The ****ing intercooler can be damaged on transport. Maybe not here. I

can send you a brand new one.

The tsi is opened for control/ so it is working.

Dont ever threaten me. Do as you wish.

I sent you almost all parts and now you act like a homosexual.

You understand nothing, and talk about my manifolds.

Regards

MD

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here some pics of the "quality" delivered by DA-chickensport, enjoy!


now, does this look new?!
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7793/bovke6.th.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bovke6.jpg)http://img135.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

scratches...
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/167/bov1tr8.th.jpg (http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bov1tr8.jpg)http://img403.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9821/intakemanijc9.th.jpg (http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=intakemanijc9.jpg)http://img88.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
great welding, and if you look good you can see that some pipes are welded and some arent.

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4910/intakemani1fy3.th.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=intakemani1fy3.jpg)http://img135.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
here you can see it better.

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/2600/intakemani3as7.th.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=intakemani3as7.jpg)http://img135.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
ntake from inside, looks like its been made from pieces of alluminium.

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/3588/headersm3ca4.th.jpg (http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=headersm3ca4.jpg)http://img403.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
the DA-motorsport exhaust mani from wich mert says "very efficient", all bend.

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/7733/intakemani4ym8.th.jpg (http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=intakemani4ym8.jpg)http://img403.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
again the intake mani, looks like its been glued, not welded.

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/66/morristechyf0.th.jpg (http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=morristechyf0.jpg)http://img403.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
this is the 2nd hand tsi (moristech) piggyback, as it arrived, without screws and if you look good you see that in the small hole there's no connection for manifold absolute pressure hose, wich should be there according the instructions manual

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7148/morristechsealuq5.th.jpg (http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=morristechsealuq5.jpg)http://img258.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
here you see the seal is broken so no warrenty

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/3231/unmodintakeia1.th.jpg (http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=unmodintakeia1.jpg)http://img157.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
unmodified intercooler to intake pipe, wich is 40 mm, should be 50 mm with a flange for a v-band clamp. "new" bov and modification costs me 500+ euro, i get 2nd hand an no modification and no extra spring...

and here my favorite
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5847/ntercoolerxx8.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ntercoolerxx8.jpg)
look good and you will see a small hole, wich according to Mert MUST had happend while transport...

for the rest the kit isnt THAT bad... but this piece of crap above IS the kit.
one + though... turbosmart hoses are pretty good, look cool and the stainles steel clamps are really strong, so something of high quality has arrived.

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/4779/strutbraceyp1.th.jpg (http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strutbraceyp1.jpg)http://img258.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
ow, and these are the 2 strutbraces for in the trunk...

very compact...

so, now i hope that even the e46 guys are convinced.

i could have known this would happen, still its pretty shitty, just dont want someone else to make the same mistake.

now i will make my introduction in the right area...
ciao!

RACEMX-M3
10-15-2008, 08:20 PM
Saw your post on M3Forum. Sorry you are the victim of someone that is clearly ripping you off. Hopefully your post will prevent this from happening to someone else.

EIAlfonso
10-15-2008, 08:29 PM
I think the same of them now as I did before this thread.

Low life crooks.

NorCal Einstein
10-15-2008, 08:33 PM
I thought when he came in here with his E46 M3 project, he said he was done selling to others? :dunno:

Sorry to hear you got ripped man

Nico3k
10-15-2008, 08:40 PM
Very unfortunate, I don't trust Turkish people because I've had nothing but bad experiences with them. For the price you paid there are many kits that would satisfy your needs. Technique Tuning has a GREAT turbo for the E36, see here http://www.techniquetuning.com/e36obd2turbo.htm
Good luck getting the car boosted. I would avoid putting the "tuned" ECU anywhere near your car.

MATT0404
10-15-2008, 09:21 PM
Damn, sorry to hear about this :(

monkeyjuice5150
10-15-2008, 10:51 PM
I learned the hard way too!

[TYPE]SS
10-15-2008, 11:57 PM
wow.. those parts look worse than ebay turbo kits. hope everything works out and you get all of your money back.

Cinna
10-16-2008, 12:07 AM
thats awful

mcr_driver
10-16-2008, 01:19 AM
wow sorry to hear man :(

turboaddiction
10-16-2008, 01:37 AM
Sad. :(

All I can think about are all the Mert nut swingers who stuck up for him in his quadruple digit dyno threads. You all should have listened to me!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

alex230ro
10-16-2008, 03:21 AM
:thumbdwn: **** it was the only tuner close to me(about 600 km ) he's out after this story.

NorCal Einstein
10-16-2008, 03:57 AM
Sad. :(

All I can think about are all the Mert nut swingers who stuck up for him in his quadruple digit dyno threads. You all should have listened to me!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I probably followed that thread 3/4 of the way, and YOU were the nut swinger that was like "oh Mert, you just make video, we Turks show them USA that you are number 1 Mert :bow:" "me cannot go have coffee with you Mert, blah blah blah"

ReneBMW
10-16-2008, 06:31 AM
like i said m3forum, i will sell all the parts for what its worth... then start all over again, from scratch, but its goin to take some time offcourse, no more money...
but think next year i will start my project with 2 garrett gt 28 turbo's, cause i like twinturbo...

ReneBMW
10-16-2008, 06:48 AM
I probably followed that thread 3/4 of the way, and YOU were the nut swinger that was like "oh Mert, you just make video, we Turks show them USA that you are number 1 Mert :bow:" "me cannot go have coffee with you Mert, blah blah blah"

well, i have been eeping polite contact with him aswell, just to get some more "info", that is how i got the info that this is coming;


Well, my M3 is fine.

I have installed a system called Motec. It is my 1st time that I install motec. Took 4 weeks.

Boost pressure is 45 psi (3 bar). Making 1150 whp = 1600 bhp

I have 17 sensors wired to motec for safety and datalog and system R&D.

I cannot control on road due to power.

I just started my E36 M3 to make it 1200 whp

For my E36 M3 i have a special plan in my mind, very very special. If it works out, this will be an innovation for all cars in the world. I just started this week with my E36 M3 and will last 9 months, it is a very special project. Very very special project, I pray that the new system works.

Regards

MD
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so being a nut swinger sometimes works out to get some "secret" information. and to get something to laugh about ...

sfhondapilot
10-16-2008, 11:31 AM
Sad. :(

All I can think about are all the Mert nut swingers who stuck up for him in his quadruple digit dyno threads. You all should have listened to me!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I'd read your posts and spit out my coffee, every time. The irony was priceless. Oh Mert, post videos puhlease. :rofl:

howie
10-16-2008, 11:39 AM
this is why I only deal with shops I can visit in person! Sh1t sucks!

steelgrey330ci
10-16-2008, 11:50 AM
lol this guy is clearly a loser back home and wants someone to pat his back, or maybe put it in his *** I heard they like that over there lol

DA-MOTOR SPORTS SHOULD BE DA-MOTOR rip off

bigjae1976
10-16-2008, 01:46 PM
I don't understand...didn't the whole thing seem kind of shady to you from the beginning? I did to everyone else. Then why would you drop 8500 euro's on this kit? I empathize with your situation but let's be honest. You getting ripped off is your own fault.

If its too good to be true...then its probably not.

huggy1989
10-16-2008, 01:55 PM
i can tell you not one person on this thread will buy this crap from this guy after seeing this thread...hopefully

ReneBMW
10-16-2008, 02:03 PM
I don't understand...didn't the whole thing seem kind of shady to you from the beginning? I did to everyone else. Then why would you drop 8500 euro's on this kit? I empathize with your situation but let's be honest. You getting ripped off is your own fault.

If its too good to be true...then its probably not.

no, i dont think its my own fault, i could have known better offcourse. but this thread is not for telling wether its my fault or mert's fault (its mert's fault),
its for making sure nobody makes the same mistake as i did.
and no, it didnt look to good to be true, and 8500 euro is not to much for a good working and good looking kit, and if the kit really looked like on the pics this would be a good kit, but if he sends me stuff wich look like they where made by a blind 12 year old turkish boy... i could not know that, and that he sends me a second hand raceport blowoffvalve, couldnt have known that, as the piggyback.
but i'm glad i'm not the only one who made this mistake.
if i joined a forum first i would have known, but i didnt...
what i want is when someone googles "da motorsport" they get here or on another forum.

ReneBMW
10-16-2008, 02:06 PM
I learned the hard way too!

like he says, i learned the hard way too...

MachRc
10-16-2008, 02:21 PM
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=385390&highlight=da+motorsports

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=453309&highlight=da+motorsports

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=326414&highlight=da+motorsports

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=319834&highlight=da+motorsports


http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=391359&highlight=da+motorsports


all of it good old read...


i dont think you the op did enough research..if you purchased this kit recently..

mert came back with his newly found 3digit claim and apologises for the whole ordeal... so in a sense its been blown up and pretty much over as in every1 know...

http://www.lionking.org/imgarchive/Act_2/RafikisWords.jpg

once a monkey told a lion

"it dussnt mattaaaa, itz in teh past!"

but whatevers j3rkoff

ReneBMW
10-16-2008, 02:39 PM
well, didnt know he had a multiple personality, he's always talking "we", but there is no "we"...
but again, this is not about ME not doing enough research, sorry but i heard that enough and i know, doesnt make it right though...
and i spoke to one guy who had the same kit and it was working perfectly! later to find out he didnt buy it from DA-chickensport but from a friend who didnt trust it...
but i made a mistake, cost me a lot of money but i will get over that. the thing that bugs me is that this turkisch asswhole is walking around, being a joker and doesnt care. but as he IS a registerd company in Turkey (i did search that befor i buy) it shouldnt be to big off a problem. and if it is i'm gona kick his turkisch ass when i go there next summer, dont care if i get caught. but first try it the legal way.

turboaddiction
10-16-2008, 02:59 PM
it shouldnt be to big off a problem. and if it is i'm gona kick his turkisch ass when i go there next summer, dont care if i get caught. but first try it the legal way.
Hidden camera then posted on youtube FTMFW!!!! :excited: :thumbsup:

xcoolnessx
10-16-2008, 03:28 PM
that sucks. sorry to hear bro

ReneBMW
10-16-2008, 03:41 PM
Hidden camera then posted on youtube FTMFW!!!! :excited: :thumbsup:

need an adres to send it to when i get caught...

ReneBMW
10-16-2008, 04:51 PM
could somebody get me an adres from where da chickensport is located? i have some adresses from wich parts where sendt but there are 3 differend adreses...

Miruku
10-16-2008, 06:13 PM
damn, sorry to hear that man, hope things will turn out good for ya!
BTW, to be honest, just look at that name, i don't even give a fxk about that company...sounds shitty already
and look at those pix...damn, looks like a forum fellow's used kit deal, not new at all...
and the welding...damn...so "nice"...like the bodywork on that 350z on my350z.com...
and the last email...wow...best customer service i've seen so far...lol, ppl don't take responsibilities...

ReneBMW
10-17-2008, 08:56 AM
man, that bodywork on the 350z... i seen it, that was realy sick, think even worse then DA... but a lot of people get ripped of i see...

HPFMTRE
10-17-2008, 09:47 AM
dude after all of this crap about stupid mert i get so pissed just reading about him screw everyone over and claim BS dyno numbers then put down companies such as HPF in that one thread about his 1000hp M3 when he has no room to talk. im sorry bro it sucks i hope he gets a foot up his as* soon. dont worry what ever happens Karma will get him good...what goes around comes around and he will get a foot up his a*s real soon if someone doesnt go out there and beat his face in LOL.

ReneBMW
10-17-2008, 12:01 PM
sooow, here's another update, it just keeps on getting better and better...
today i went to a shop to get my intercooler repaired, welding wasnt possible because to hot, soldering wasnt possible because to hot so only one thing possible, a sort of hot glue... can only hold 8psi... but ok.
i had the small hole fixed and then he tested the intercooler for leaks.
and we found out that it wasnt just that one hole, the air comes poring out everywhere!! i forgot to take my camera because i didnt really need it, i thought... but i will have it tested later again and make some pics.
so now i'm left with a kit of wich NOTHING is useable!!
ok, the stainles steel hose clamps are useable, hats all!
but Mert wrote me in the mail (in wich he thought i acted like a homesexual) that he could send me a new one.
but as always he doesnt answer my e-mails...
man, i keep getting more mad by the minute!
well, thats all news i have. i guess i just waittill monday and post again when i have some news from my lawyer.