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Activ3
01-16-2009, 02:39 AM
Bluejeansonfire has most of the kit already, and we started on it tonight...

the full DIY install will be documented on www.e46nonm.com vids will come as well of course... We now have it all in Orlando for the non-ms.. AA kits, a TT kit, ASA kits, just need a TS unit for a nice comparo of them all :4ngie:

http://e46nonm.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/img_3536.jpg

NightWolfe
01-16-2009, 02:46 AM
I had to read this like 3 times haha .. I was thinking TT = Twin Turbo .. then looked at the pics and was like .. hurm .. that looks like Nicks kit haha ...

If you guys are doing this in Orlando .. or the car will be in Orlando let me know .. the CFL Euro crew is doing a dyno day on March 7th .. hit me up or check our boards if you guys want to come .. I'm sure he'd like to see what numbers he's putting down :)

Activ3
01-16-2009, 02:52 AM
Yup, we're in Orlando, right on University blvd about 1/2 mile from UCF :)

e46Bermann
01-16-2009, 03:24 AM
M54B30'm sure that will be true to this very important amendment, I am always like this to put a turbo engine, luck.

bluejeansonfire
01-16-2009, 04:04 AM
I'm simply ecstatic:excited:

NightWolfe
01-16-2009, 04:43 AM
Hit me up, or stop by if you guys wanna hit the dyno day

www.CFLEuro.net

NickG@TechniqueTuning
01-16-2009, 09:22 AM
Note to everybody....shoes and tools pictured above not included with the kit :)

lamaker
01-16-2009, 09:30 AM
damn...I was going to buy that kit until you said the shoes were not included....

frankieb96
01-16-2009, 10:16 AM
stopping by later today

cfbmw gets a new boosted division member FTW

rswtal
01-16-2009, 10:42 AM
hehe i knew everybody would write about the shoes.

waiting for more stuff :craig:

Xavi_328ci
01-16-2009, 01:31 PM
Waiting to see results! :bow: Good luck!

MachRc
01-16-2009, 01:35 PM
Waiting to see results! :bow: Good luck!

ditto! good luck on the build!

Boosted_ZHP
01-16-2009, 01:44 PM
You guys are going to run the cat?

BreakMyWallet
01-16-2009, 01:53 PM
sick!

bluejeansonfire
01-16-2009, 05:51 PM
You guys are going to run the cat?

positively not, i'm having a 3" pipe made by the local mandrel pipe bender to connect the downpipe to the rear section of my e46 hks hedderback

325rider
01-16-2009, 09:16 PM
:bow: Finally this epic project begins :bow:

Brian N
01-16-2009, 10:28 PM
Progress pictures? :eeps:

:excited:

Activ3
01-17-2009, 01:24 AM
Just got back up to my room from the garage.. heading to bed, Julio has the cam with the pics from tonights progress. He'll be uploading them if not tonight, tomorrow morning.

NightWolfe
01-17-2009, 01:41 AM
positively not, i'm having a 3" pipe made by the local mandrel pipe bender to connect the downpipe to the rear section of my e46 hks hedderback

Could you let me know who here in Orlando does Mandrel bending .. looking to get an exhaust done for another car and that is exactly what I'm looking for

T330
01-17-2009, 02:39 AM
!

Boosted_ZHP
01-17-2009, 04:38 AM
positively not, i'm having a 3" pipe made by the local mandrel pipe bender to connect the downpipe to the rear section of my e46 hks hedderback

:woot::bow:

Brian N
01-17-2009, 05:39 AM
Just got back up to my room from the garage.. heading to bed, Julio has the cam with the pics from tonights progress. He'll be uploading them if not tonight, tomorrow morning.

:yikes: I was only joking about the progress pictures. I didn't realize you guys would start this soon.

This is soo cool. :drool:

frankieb96
01-17-2009, 10:05 AM
Could you let me know who here in Orlando does Mandrel bending .. looking to get an exhaust done for another car and that is exactly what I'm looking for

http://www.exhaustdepot.net/

Activ3
01-17-2009, 11:32 AM
www.e46nonm.com -> diy -> TT 330 diy install

bluejeansonfire
01-17-2009, 12:16 PM
www.e46nonm.com -> diy -> TT 330 diy install

word!

http://www.exhaustdepot.net/

indeedly-do, frank originally told me about this place too- i'm quiet excited for a proper turbo exhaust.

:woot::bow:

cats are ftl, i'm in florida

:yikes: I was only joking about the progress pictures. I didn't realize you guys would start this soon.

This is soo cool. :drool:
Yeah, we received the exhaust manifold yesterday, but we got started the day before. I can't hold my excitement in! That and I have 8hrs of class a day at fullsail, sometimes including weekends, so i need to take advantage of this two-day weekend.

xJustin
01-17-2009, 12:26 PM
nice

NightWolfe
01-17-2009, 03:56 PM
Thanks for the link Frank

What program are you in at FS? I graduated from Digital Media there about 5 years ago

bluejeansonfire
01-17-2009, 06:50 PM
Thanks for the link Frank

What program are you in at FS? I graduated from Digital Media there about 5 years ago

let's refrain from getting too far off-topic here... I'll PM

Bimmer Dude Xi
01-17-2009, 07:09 PM
$7000 for 315 hp 300 ft lb, ouch. Not worth it.
If that's what you get on a 330, I wonder what you will get on a 325.

Brian N
01-17-2009, 09:16 PM
$7000 for 315 hp 300 ft lb, ouch. Not worth it.
If that's what you get on a 330, I wonder what you will get on a 325.

315rwhp and 300rw ft/lbs not worth it? :loco:

Do you have info on some other kit that produces these kinds of numbers for cheaper? I like to think I have been on this forum for a little while and I can honestly say you can't get a better deal than this.

parad0x
01-17-2009, 09:36 PM
315rwhp and 300rw ft/lbs not worth it? :loco:

Do you have info on some other kit that produces these kinds of number for cheaper? I like it think I have been on this forum for a little while and I can honestly say you can't get a better deal than this.

+1, I chuckled when i read that comment too? Maybe he thought your numbers were at the crank which it's not because it is at the wheels so it probably means about 370hp at the crank and 350 torque at the crank given using a 17% drive train loss. And for a introduction stage 1 to put out such numbers on low boost, wait till the following next stages get released and you should be flyn :woot:

bluejeansonfire
01-17-2009, 10:53 PM
+1, I chuckled when i read that comment too? Maybe he thought your numbers were at the crank which it's not because it is at the wheels so it probably means about 370hp at the crank and 350 torque at the crank given using a 17% drive train loss. And for a introduction stage 1 to put out such numbers on low boost, wait till the following next stages get released and you should be flyn :woot:

yeah, i bought an aem meth kit to run 8.5 lbs, pshhhhhh
I'm not going to say the number, but like nick said, this is a kit, what you want to do with it, is up to you. I'm sure there's a tad of power also coming from running a non-stock exhaust without any cats. Historically, schrick NA cams don't produce very good boosted power, that's what I have now- I assure you that this car will not be running boost with those for over a week, and I'm not paying for a cam install to go to stock.

If this car only makes 315whp, I will be looking for the nearest gun to eat. And the cost of upgrades are extremely low compared to the cost of the kit. So a failure wouldn't even be that disappointing, but I can't see this going too wrong.

JELBMW330I
01-19-2009, 12:39 AM
damn Julio is going turbo?!? nice man. hey if you guys need any help hit me up

330i ZHP
01-19-2009, 12:55 AM
wow - good luck, who is or has done the tuning

Activ3
01-19-2009, 01:28 AM
wow - good luck, who is or has done the tuning
Thanks Stuart! The DME was sent out to Nick a few days ago, and should be back here on Tuesday. We just called it a night and I'll be uploading pics of tonights progress shortly.

dfjaws
01-19-2009, 01:41 AM
That is a good deal if it's whp. Good luck man! Can't wait for the finished product

Activ3
01-19-2009, 01:54 AM
Page has been updated with new pics here (http://e46nonm.com/?page_id=133)

Bimmer Dude Xi
01-19-2009, 03:28 AM
315rwhp and 300rw ft/lbs not worth it? :loco:

Do you have info on some other kit that produces these kinds of numbers for cheaper? I like to think I have been on this forum for a little while and I can honestly say you can't get a better deal than this.

Well I came from the DSM world and $7000 can get you over 500hp easily if want to match the kits or create your own kit.
I'm still a little new to BMW engine performance, so far I'm seeing everything a little more pricey than I feel it should be.

_Calle_
01-19-2009, 05:01 AM
looks good!
if I dont have the TS2, I would also get the turbo kit.
have fun!! :4ngie:

Lemonsqr
01-19-2009, 09:08 AM
Wow, looks like a much more involved install than the TS2!!!! You have to support the engine and remove the oil pan....:yikes: This will definitely figure into my thoughts of converting from TS2 to turbo :eek: We NEED to have a TT vs TS2 performance comparison!!!!!

NickG@TechniqueTuning
01-19-2009, 10:10 AM
Wow, looks like a much more involved install than the TS2!!!! You have to support the engine and remove the oil pan....:yikes: This will definitely figure into my thoughts of converting from TS2 to turbo :eek: We NEED to have a TT vs TS2 performance comparison!!!!!

Actually, you don't need to remove the oilpan. This particular customer decided to do so even though it's not required.

Lemonsqr
01-19-2009, 10:51 AM
Actually, you don't need to remove the oilpan. This particular customer decided to do so even though it's not required.
Understood:thumbup:, but being the anal guy that I am, I would most likely want to go this route and remove the oil pan to ensure there are NO metal shavings going into the engine....

Activ3
01-19-2009, 12:46 PM
Wow, looks like a much more involved install than the TS2!!!! You have to support the engine and remove the oil pan....:yikes: This will definitely figure into my thoughts of converting from TS2 to turbo :eek: We NEED to have a TT vs TS2 performance comparison!!!!!

We will have this kit running against multiple other kits, but I can't seem to find any TS systems here in Orlando. We can however, compare drag strip runs, since Julio is a huge fan of the strip. Do you have any strip numbers from your car?

You don't have to remove the oil pan, as Nick confirmed (directions also say it's not necessary), but Julio broke off an oil pan bolt inside of the block, so we decided this would be the ideal time to fix it. Cleaning the pan of metal shavings would also be light years easier without the aftermarket baffle he's running. This kit also doesn't require intake manifold modification or removal, so the rest of the install should actually go quite quickly.

bluejeansonfire
01-19-2009, 02:38 PM
Understood:thumbup:, but being the anal guy that I am, I would most likely want to go this route and remove the oil pan to ensure there are NO metal shavings going into the engine....

Nick actually outlines a very good method of avoiding getting metal in the engine without removing the oil pan, if i didn't have to pull it for repair, i wouldn't have. The overall install of the kit isn't bad, and I think pulling the intake manifold for a twin screw setup would be more involved, that and plumbing air-to-water.

And though we've outlined everything in days, there hasn't been a full day's work gone into this yet. We have a poor tendency to get started around 7pm.

parad0x
01-19-2009, 03:13 PM
couldn't you get away without having to use an engine hoist/stand by simply using a jack stand or a jack lift underneath the engine, to lift it a tad bit? The only purpose I would see is to tilt the engine a tad bit enough to get the new engine mount in there correct ?

NickG@TechniqueTuning
01-19-2009, 03:15 PM
couldn't you get away without having to use an engine hoist/stand by simply using a jack stand or a jack lift underneath the engine, to lift it a tad bit? The only purpose I would see is to tilt the engine a tad bit enough to get the new engine mount in there correct ?

You are correct sir!

bluejeansonfire
01-19-2009, 03:18 PM
couldn't you get away without having to use an engine hoist/stand by simply using a jack stand or a jack lift underneath the engine, to lift it a tad bit? The only purpose I would see is to tilt the engine a tad bit enough to get the new engine mount in there correct ?

totally right, if we weren't pulling the oil pan. But if we do pull the oil pan, which also requires pulling the crossmember, and thus pulling both engine mounts, where would we jack? on the crank pulley? not me...

btw, that engine hoist cost less than most shift knobs at the dealer. And though I wont return that engine hoist, it could be taken back for a full refund on harbor freight's rental program

Brian N
01-19-2009, 03:39 PM
Well I came from the DSM world and $7000 can get you over 500hp easily if want to match the kits or create your own kit.
I'm still a little new to BMW engine performance, so far I'm seeing everything a little more pricey than I feel it should be.

Well yeah that is kind of the deal that goes along with having a bimmer. EVERYTHING is more expensive. It's just something you have to know if you want to mod your BMW. If you can't handle that fact there are plenty of other cars out there where you can get loads of power for "cheap". It doesn't bother me too much though you got to pay to play.If you think this is expensive wait till HPF comes out with there turbo's for our cars it is going to be like 15k plus. :4ngie:


That being said I still think this is the best deal right now price/power wise. :)

parad0x
01-19-2009, 03:41 PM
totally right, if we weren't pulling the oil pan. But if we do pull the oil pan, which also requires pulling the crossmember, and thus pulling both engine mounts, where would we jack? on the crank pulley? not me...

Ahh i gotcha, so in otherwords your pan bolt was damaged previous to you installing the turbo kit which thus required additionally using an engine hoist as well as dropping the pan to fix the broken pan bolt? sorry to hear that, but I guess you will have peace of mind now that it is fixed, and as for other potentual installers assumming they dont have a broken pan bolt I guess they wouldnt need to do those extra steps you have taken.

As for metal shavings gettingo into the oil pan, ideally would be best to avoid it and good to know NickG has a way to do so but worste case scenario if ever any small leftover bits of shaving made its way into the oil pan wouldnt you think the shavings would simply get caught up in the oil filter, and removed from the oil crank case in general when the filter would get replaced during the next oil change? I mean if you think about it, on new engine builds you always have metal shavings that get shaved off making their way into the oil crank case which then get filtered by the oil filter so I dont think that would be much of an issue riight ?

Activ3
01-19-2009, 04:11 PM
Ahh i gotcha, so in otherwords your pan bolt was damaged previous to you installing the turbo kit which thus required additionally using an engine hoist as well as dropping the pan to fix the broken pan bolt? sorry to hear that, but I guess you will have peace of mind now that it is fixed, and as for other potentual installers assumming they dont have a broken pan bolt I guess they wouldnt need to do those extra steps you have taken.

As for metal shavings gettingo into the oil pan, ideally would be best to avoid it and good to know NickG has a way to do so but worste case scenario if ever any small leftover bits of shaving made its way into the oil pan wouldnt you think the shavings would simply get caught up in the oil filter, and removed from the oil crank case in general when the filter would get replaced during the next oil change? I mean if you think about it, on new engine builds you always have metal shavings that get shaved off making their way into the oil crank case which then get filtered by the oil filter so I dont think that would be much of an issue riight ?
Yup. Prior to the install there was a broken bolt that he never got around to fixing, and we decided this would be the perfect time to do so.

Bimmer Dude Xi
01-19-2009, 06:12 PM
Well yeah that is kind of the deal that goes along with having a bimmer. EVERYTHING is more expensive. It's just something you have to know if you want to mod your BMW. If you can't handle that fact there are plenty of other cars out there where you can get loads of power for "cheap". It doesn't bother me too much though you got to pay to play.If you think this is expensive wait till HPF comes out with there turbo's for our cars it is going to be like 15k plus. :4ngie:


That being said I still think this is the best deal right now price/power wise. :)

Well it does not bother me that the products are more expensive, but I feel the power output feels so limited. I would want more boost but I don't think the bottom end can handle more than 10 lbs of boost reliably. Correct me if I'm wrong. Trust me I would love to put in the turbo kit in my lil 325. I'm pretty sure the HPF kit will include a Meth kit and a better engine management system and maybe a bigger intercooler. I wouldn't be surprised if the kit is 15K. But I am paying to play :str8pimpi

DrM3
01-19-2009, 06:31 PM
good luck man, i already love your car!

damn, i was in orlando on university blvd for a week this summer and only saw 1 M while I was there lol.
I picked up my 95 m3 in tampa and stayed in orlando with my girl, wish i saw a bigger crowd of u guys.

Activ3
01-19-2009, 06:44 PM
good luck man, i already love your car!

damn, i was in orlando on university blvd for a week this summer and only saw 1 M while I was there lol.
I picked up my 95 m3 in tampa and stayed in orlando with my girl, wish i saw a bigger crowd of u guys.
Should've hit us up! Julio and I both live right on University!

parad0x
01-19-2009, 07:01 PM
I'm pretty sure the HPF kit will include a Meth kit and a better engine management system and maybe a bigger intercooler. I wouldn't be surprised if the kit is 15K. But I am paying to play

The concensus alerady is that HPF's stage 1 turbo is most likely going to cost you double of Technique Tunings turbo kit, and no it most likely will not have a meth included in stage 1 as well. Look at the M3 kits, stage 1 does not have meth, stage 2 does and it costs $2,500 for that additional meth kit so be expected to have to pay something similer if one were to plan to upgrade.

When NickG comes out with the meth kit, if it is labeled as stage 2 it will not cost $2,500 dollars for that upgrade given how well priced his current stage 1 kit comes and how much it includes already. After completion of stage 2, I would imagine there will be a stage 3 as it's already been advertised and I would not be suprised if stage 3 TT maybe ended costing less or in the same ballpark figure of what a stage 1 HPF kit will cost while delivering a lot more power if that makes you happy :str8pimpi

As for better engine management, there is nothing better then tuning the stock ECU for daily driver, no error codes you retain knock sensors, there are a lot more advantages to maintaining the stock DME and it costs less in the end anyways for the end user, its a win win scenario. If there is no need in replacing the stock ECU, or running a piggy back why bother? I believe HPF used a standalone because they werent familiar with coding the stock ecu at the time where has NickG has been tunning bmw's for years before HPF was in the bmw scene.

And finally for the intercooler needing to be bigger, nickG already mentioend the intercooler he is providing in the kit is already oversized in anticipation for the next turbo stages he will be releasing so you can only wonder what he has planned next :shhh:

bigdog2003_99
01-19-2009, 07:53 PM
Hey that tranny mount and guibo looks really familiar lol, good luck with the install man, i wanna see some videos =)

///A
01-19-2009, 08:23 PM
good luck! this will be epic

DrM3
01-19-2009, 08:47 PM
Should've hit us up! Julio and I both live right on University!

nice! i was staying in the marriott beside uno's and jimmy johns.
everytime i go down now, im staying in oviedo, not too far at all!

ill hit u guys up next time im going down there, hopefully soon.

cant wait to see the progress man, hopefully she'll be done by the time i come!

330i ZHP
01-19-2009, 11:17 PM
that is a tight area to work in, did you lift the engine as well to make more clearance? and I am sure you removed the air pump and crap

mcr_driver
01-20-2009, 01:08 AM
any curiosity if TT will release a m3 kit?

monkeyjuice5150
01-20-2009, 02:30 AM
The kit look nice, I only wish the exhuast manifold looked a little nicer like HPF. I'm going to assume you can't replace the intake manifold because its not individual thottle like the M3.

....
This is for Nick.

If there was Stage 2. Would you add Cams/piston/headgasket/rod/stud/meth to it or thats likely to be stage 3.

bluejeansonfire
01-20-2009, 05:44 AM
The kit look nice, I only wish the exhuast manifold looked a little nicer like HPF. I'm going to assume you can't replace the intake manifold because its not individual thottle like the M3.

....
This is for Nick.

If there was Stage 2. Would you add Cams/piston/headgasket/rod/stud/meth to it or thats likely to be stage 3.

i think the manifold could be replaced... but i think for 8.5lbs, disa is an asset. ITBs certainly have very little to do with why HPF did the manifold. They did the manifold b/c they do manifolds- in the thread they mentioned doing a manifold for their potential m54 kit. Yeah, for the 12,500, you get an aluminum intake manifold and a billet alum exhaust manifold... i hope they do a lot better than these for such a price hike. And they're beautiful parts, no doubt- but is it worth it?.. and will it make notably better performance?
After all, e36s make absolute monster power with cast iron exhaust manifolds and m50 plastic intakes. certainly there's a limit to plastic intakes, but i don't think our aluminum blocks will really be able to boost enough to see them; look at e36m3s and their cast-iron blocks.
The m54b30 is ultimately us s52 with a small bore, an exhaust vanos, an aluminum block, and a dual plane variable intake manifold. NickG built a very high quality, Technique Tuning style, e36 type turbo kit for the e46 nonM- with a blow-through air sensor. The ultimate setup in my opinion, which is seen in my ownership of this setup.

bluejeansonfire
01-20-2009, 05:46 AM
that is a tight area to work in, did you lift the engine as well to make more clearance? and I am sure you removed the air pump and crap

thems dookies have been gone for over a year

aggieE46
01-20-2009, 02:09 PM
Really excited to see you get her finished up and on the road!

bluejeansonfire
01-20-2009, 03:34 PM
Hey that tranny mount and guibo looks really familiar lol, good luck with the install man, i wanna see some videos =)

word!

BimmerDude18
01-20-2009, 10:14 PM
You can't see the beauty in the kit with just pictures.

The exhaust manifold is nice, individual runners still, the piping is all beautiful, the BPV is nice, the turbo is a very nicely specced piece, and all the details are there.

The fitment is VERY tight, especially on the turbo, but it makes the kit all the more impressive.

And as to the intercooler needing to be bigger, honestly, its bigger than any of the other 330 intercoolers I've seen and should be completely fine for this setup, with water/meth injection it should support well over 400whp.

Activ3
01-20-2009, 10:21 PM
no work tonight. It's pretty damn cold for me (upper 40s), and yes that's nothing for you snowbirds, but this is frickin florida... lol We need to get a fitting for the turbo tomorrow, and we're going to have a bung welded in to the intake pipe for the AEM meth setup that is going in.

aggieE46
01-21-2009, 08:02 AM
Dude, I live in TX and that's not that cold! Get it done :)

no work tonight. It's pretty damn cold for me (upper 40s), and yes that's nothing for you snowbirds, but this is frickin florida... lol We need to get a fitting for the turbo tomorrow, and we're going to have a bung welded in to the intake pipe for the AEM meth setup that is going in.

bluejeansonfire
01-21-2009, 08:54 AM
it's 32 degrees here in orlando, now. It'll warm up during the day though

bluejeansonfire
01-21-2009, 09:08 AM
Well it does not bother me that the products are more expensive, but I feel the power output feels so limited. I would want more boost but I don't think the bottom end can handle more than 10 lbs of boost reliably. Correct me if I'm wrong. Trust me I would love to put in the turbo kit in my lil 325. I'm pretty sure the HPF kit will include a Meth kit and a better engine management system and maybe a bigger intercooler. I wouldn't be surprised if the kit is 15K. But I am paying to play :str8pimpi

I don't think anyone has ever blown an m54 bottom end with power output or boost. The b25 has such a short stroke, i don't think that it makes a difference that it be cast, it can probably take more at higher rpms than the b30. David, is running 15psi or so on a bone stock motor with 199,xxx miles. Better engine management? Since when is piggyback better? I'm willing to bet any unsold part coming off my car that you'd make more power buying a b30 and going NickG stage 1 than b25 HPF stage 1, especially at the low limit of 10psi. If meth is something you want, AEM's 1 gallon setup cost me $330. If you want a bigger intercooler, ebay intercooler (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/3-Intercooler-Turbocharger-Civic-Acura-Prelude-Wrx_W0QQitemZ200299113468QQihZ010QQcategoryZ33742QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem), less than $100. I'm sure output will go unchanged.... or down.

bluejeansonfire
01-22-2009, 12:37 AM
update! despite the freezing temps, yeah, in orlando, progress was made.... e46nonm.com..... pics to be up shortly

monkeyjuice5150
01-22-2009, 01:18 AM
I forgot his name, but hes around my area. Used to post here. Some OG with the turbo sedan. He boosted the 1st time and blew his motor.. Forgot what PSI. Then it took him 2 years to built his motor and running strong now? Think he was running 15+ psi

Activ3
01-22-2009, 01:21 AM
I think that was Oshin02?

BimmerDude18
01-22-2009, 01:00 PM
it's 32 degrees here in orlando, now. It'll warm up during the day though
Not much more to go on the turbo install.

We got through the hard part last night of "turn the wrench 3 degree's, bend heat shield, reset, turn it another 3 degrees, bend heat shield back, reset" for an hour to get the bolts tight :rofl:. Damn ratcheting box wrenches would have come in handy :idea:

I'm still impressed every time we add another piece on, how much effort Nick went through in making this kit. Most of the pieces are labeled (very helpful), and have some little bracket, bend, or added piece that makes them fit together much more easily. For the tight spaces in this kit, it really is a well designed piece. With as hard as it has been to install some parts, I'm really impressed with how well Nick was able to design and build it.

BadBoostedBmwM3
01-22-2009, 10:27 PM
Im new here (its actually my first post), But, I thought the kit only works for a 330's and is being adapted o 325's. So, how is your "328" getting the kit?? Or, are you posting pics for someone else??

BadBoostedBmwM3
01-22-2009, 10:31 PM
You can't see the beauty in the kit with just pictures.

The exhaust manifold is nice, individual runners still, the piping is all beautiful, the BPV is nice, the turbo is a very nicely specced piece, and all the details are there.

The fitment is VERY tight, especially on the turbo, but it makes the kit all the more impressive.

And as to the intercooler needing to be bigger, honestly, its bigger than any of the other 330 intercoolers I've seen and should be completely fine for this setup, with water/meth injection it should support well over 400whp.

From the review of bf.c, you should easily be able to hit 400whp with a couple more lbs of boost w/ water/meth kit and a nice exhaust system.
BTW, I can't wait to see numbers and more pics.

BimmerDude18
01-23-2009, 12:00 AM
I have a 350z now, its going on a 330 (not mine). I'm just helping bluejeansonfire install the kit. I think you might be a little below his target whp, but I think he is going to be more results oriented (ie trap speed) than dyno number oriented.

Activ3
01-23-2009, 02:09 AM
Im new here (its actually my first post), But, I thought the kit only works for a 330's and is being adapted o 325's. So, how is your "328" getting the kit?? Or, are you posting pics for someone else??
It's not my car, the install is on bluejeansonfire's car.

We got quite a bit done tonight, I'll have the site updated shortly.

bluejeansonfire
01-23-2009, 11:10 AM
updates are up
e46nonm.com

Activ3
01-23-2009, 11:51 AM
Not all updates are up. My internet connection went down last night during the upload, so only about half of the pictures made it on to the site. I'm uploading the rest now and will update the page with them asap.

Activ3
01-23-2009, 12:07 PM
The rest of the updates are up, pics are on the page here (http://e46nonm.com/?page_id=133)

325rider
01-23-2009, 12:45 PM
:drool:

02m3csl325
01-23-2009, 01:12 PM
Well I came from the DSM world and $7000 can get you over 500hp easily if want to match the kits or create your own kit.
I'm still a little new to BMW engine performance, so far I'm seeing everything a little more pricey than I feel it should be.

Lol this is first actual production turbo kit available for the e46. DSM's are like building a house with lego's, incredibly easy to put together. BMW's are like bulding a house with pencils, not so easy to put together. Anyway, I'm sure the DSM's you're refering to are the cars that came stock with a turbo. They were already tuned from the factory and all that had to be done was upgrades. If you have ever turbo'ed a NA motor then you would have a better perspective on the cost/hp ratio. Our cars are much more electronically advanced from a computer standpoint then most, hence the tuning issue. If you bought your BMW to get cheap easy hp out of, it's not going to happen, you should've went with something else but ultimately it would never be a BMW.

02m3csl325
01-23-2009, 01:28 PM
Awesome work guys, can't wait to see numbers and the finished product! This is really making me rethink my plans as far as plans for motor swaps.

NickG@TechniqueTuning
01-23-2009, 01:54 PM
You guys are doing a great job on the install. Keep it up!!

Brian N
01-23-2009, 05:28 PM
OMG you guys are almost done! Love the e46nonm site too! :excited:

Please tell me you will will do vids? :drool:

BimmerDude18
01-23-2009, 05:32 PM
OMG you guys are almost done! Love the e46nonm site too! :excited:

Please tell me you will will do vids? :drool:Yeah, there will definitely be videos, drag strip runs (multiple times) etc.

bluejeansonfire
01-24-2009, 08:36 AM
OMG you guys are almost done! Love the e46nonm site too! :excited:

Please tell me you will will do vids? :drool:

there will be

bluejeansonfire
01-24-2009, 09:44 AM
pseudo update! http://e46nonm.com

BadBoostedBmwM3
01-24-2009, 01:44 PM
^^^ It looking real good! What type of bung are you welding in your TB for the methanol??

bluejeansonfire
01-24-2009, 02:45 PM
it was a threaded fitting welded in by exhaust depot. I didn't ask, I just gave him my squirter fitting, and he took care of it.

cnotesdip
01-24-2009, 11:00 PM
i need the instructions for this kit can you make me copies or can you sell me yours or sell me the copies?

NickG@TechniqueTuning
01-25-2009, 01:04 AM
i need the instructions for this kit can you make me copies or can you sell me yours or sell me the copies?

Unbelievable :rolleyes:

Activ3
01-25-2009, 02:06 AM
i need the instructions for this kit can you make me copies or can you sell me yours or sell me the copies?

Unbelieveable :rolleyes:


I was going to tell you to contact Nick directly, but I guess that's your answer...

BimmerDude18
01-25-2009, 11:55 AM
I was going to tell you to contact Nick directly, but I guess that's your answer...
I did tell him to on Bimmerforums.

I told him no-one who had this kit was going to send him the instructions, they appreciate Nick's excellent support (example, if something is *missing* from the kit Nick ships a new piece immediately if its simple like a bolt, nut, gasket, clamp instead of playing the "are you sure" game).

Dude, sell the ebay M3 kit, buy Nick's kit, be done, if thats the route you want to go.

EIAlfonso
01-25-2009, 01:09 PM
<text><text></text></text><text><text>NickG@TechniqueTuning </text>Unbelievable </text>:rolleyes:

I need a summary on the DME programming, better yet just send me a copy file of the software programing.

Activ3
01-25-2009, 01:47 PM
<text><text></text></text><text><text>NickG@TechniqueTuning </text>Unbelievable </text>:rolleyes:

I need a summary on the DME programming, better yet just send me a copy file of the software programing.
:rofl:

I don't understand the big deal about the instructions anyways... if you have any sort of knowledge about how an F/I kit/car works, you should be able to install it.

Anyways, last night we got the last pipe on, but the methanol bung just happened to be welded in close to the shock tower, so we need to source a 90 degree fitting for clearance. The turbo install is pretty much done!

Updates with pictures coming soon.

TxZHP04
01-25-2009, 02:41 PM
I don't understand the big deal about the instructions anyways... if you have any sort of knowledge about how an F/I kit/car works, you should be able to install it.

The big deal is that cnote purchased a used e36 kit off ebay and wants to use Nick's design as a basis for figuring out how to adapt this kit to his e46. That's blatant theft of intellectual property. The he expected to turn around and be able to ask Nick to tune this Frankenturbo. :lmao:

Last I saw, the folks over at bf.c might have convinced him that there's no such thing as a cheap DIY turbo for the e46 and that he should just save up for Nick's kit.

Activ3
01-25-2009, 02:54 PM
The big deal is that cnote purchased a used e36 kit off ebay and wants to use Nick's design as a basis for figuring out how to adapt this kit to his e46. That's blatant theft of intellectual property. The he expected to turn around and be able to ask Nick to tune this Frankenturbo. :lmao:

Last I saw, the folks over at bf.c might have convinced him that there's no such thing as a cheap DIY turbo for the e46 and that he should just save up for Nick's kit.

Oh I completely understand that. I meant that the guy shouldn't need instructions for a kit that he's trying to DIY himself... If you're bold enough to try and use your own hardware you should at least have the knowledge of how it works well enough to install it... Sorry if my post was unclear.

As for our diy page, I messed it up and erased the pictures and updates but I'll fix it asap (posting from my iphone right now)

TxZHP04
01-25-2009, 03:30 PM
Oh I completely understand that. I meant that the guy shouldn't need instructions for a kit that he's trying to DIY himself... If you're bold enough to try and use your own hardware you should at least have the knowledge of how it works well enough to install it... Sorry if my post was unclear.

Ah, now I understand... and I couldn't agree more.

BimmerDude18
01-25-2009, 11:46 PM
Gauges wired, sortof, progress is slow when you have long limbs, large hands, and are trying to wire things cleanly.

Brian N
01-26-2009, 12:00 AM
Gauges wired, sortof, progress is slow when you have long limbs, large hands, and are trying to wire things cleanly.

:rofl:

BimmerDude18
01-26-2009, 12:35 AM
:rofl:

Don't laugh, have you ever tried to cram yourself in the footwell of a car on jackstands?

Mix that with holding a light and a trying to soldier stuff and you either end up cramped, burnt, or making VERY slow progress, you can see the option I took lol.

Brian N
01-26-2009, 12:55 AM
Don't laugh, have you ever tried to cram yourself in the footwell of a car on jackstands?

Mix that with holding a light and a trying to soldier stuff and you either end up cramped, burnt, or making VERY slow progress, you can see the option I took lol.

Haha sorry it was just such a funny comment. As is this one. Good times good times. Nothing like good ole DIY action with some friends, always makes for great stories.

BimmerDude18
01-26-2009, 01:18 AM
Haha sorry it was just such a funny comment. As is this one. Good times good times. Nothing like good ole DIY action with some friends, always makes for great stories.

I know, its been an entertaining install, complete with some really stupid mistakes that have made us redo stuff like 3 times. It should be worth it when we finally get everything together.

Still waiting on final parts but hoping for startup at the latest Thursday.

Activ3
01-26-2009, 02:55 AM
Only one way to learn!! DIY is the only way! It's always good to know what's going on in your car... i.e. I wasn't over there with Julio and Tyler helping out too much today because of bad Wendy's I ate earlier :rofl: and on the way to CVS to get some drugs to help me out, my car died... one of the main fuses blew out in the ecu box, and it kept blowing every time I'd put it in... traced it back to my water/alcohol switch making contact with one of the hose clamps on my intake pipe (switch came loose over time). At this point my EML light was on so I had to disconnect the battery for a few minutes to clear it. I'm not gonna lie it took me a good half an hour to find the problem, but after it was all said and done, I got back in to my car with my dirty ass hands and could do nothing but laugh. BTW fkin drugs got me wired now, hence the reason I'm awake.. but I do feel better :D

Activ3
01-26-2009, 02:56 AM
Haha sorry it was just such a funny comment. As is this one. Good times good times. Nothing like good ole DIY action with some friends, always makes for great stories.
And for the record, Julio and Tyler are bigger guys than me, and it is quite amusing when they can't get stuff done because of their size :lmao: good times though, good times

bluejeansonfire
01-26-2009, 09:56 AM
And for the record, Julio and Tyler are bigger guys than me, and it is quite amusing when they can't get stuff done because of their size :lmao: good times though, good times

my hands were made to repair the f150- everything in the open. your hands can reach places i normally save for needlenose pliers or otherwise just give up and go, "I need David."
nice to hear you're doing better, sorry you had such a fuse ****-up.




On another note, more pseudo updates! e46nonm.com

pei330ci
01-26-2009, 12:13 PM
Only one way to learn!! DIY is the only way! It's always good to know what's going on in your car... i.e. I wasn't over there with Julio and Tyler helping out too much today because of bad Wendy's I ate earlier :rofl: and on the way to CVS to get some drugs to help me out, my car died... one of the main fuses blew out in the ecu box, and it kept blowing every time I'd put it in... traced it back to my water/alcohol switch making contact with one of the hose clamps on my intake pipe (switch came loose over time). At this point my EML light was on so I had to disconnect the battery for a few minutes to clear it. I'm not gonna lie it took me a good half an hour to find the problem, but after it was all said and done, I got back in to my car with my dirty ass hands and could do nothing but laugh. BTW fkin drugs got me wired now, hence the reason I'm awake.. but I do feel better :D

Half an hour is fast in my book. Good job!

Activ3
01-27-2009, 02:57 AM
Half an hour is fast in my book. Good job!
thanks Adam. Half an hour feels a lot longer when you're on the side of the road at night with a flashlight :rofl:

Activ3
01-27-2009, 03:18 AM
Updates are up for now :) link (http://e46nonm.com/?page_id=133)

325rider
01-27-2009, 03:25 AM
:woot:

Brian N
01-27-2009, 03:35 AM
I know, its been an entertaining install, complete with some really stupid mistakes that have made us redo stuff like 3 times. It should be worth it when we finally get everything together.

Still waiting on final parts but hoping for startup at the latest Thursday.

Wouldn't be a proper DIY without some stupid mistakes and hours of pondering what you just did wrong when it is usually the simplest fix.

And for the record, Julio and Tyler are bigger guys than me, and it is quite amusing when they can't get stuff done because of their size :lmao: good times though, good times

Haha yeah us smaller guys have to get some amusement out of it. Pretty much the only advantage we have over them. :rofl:

bluejeansonfire
01-27-2009, 08:45 AM
Pretty much the only advantage we have over them. :rofl:

pshhhhhhhhhh,

you guys can find pants for sale, easy

you get free weight reduction, in go-karts, you have less wind resistance

the air up here is thinner

....there's plenty more good advantage to not being tall, its just morning and that's what struck me off the top of my head

Brian N
01-27-2009, 07:25 PM
pshhhhhhhhhh,

you guys can find pants for sale, easy

you get free weight reduction, in go-karts, you have less wind resistance

the air up here is thinner

....there's plenty more good advantage to not being tall, its just morning and that's what struck me off the top of my head

Haha I think I have the most common pant/shoe size (30 by 32). So they are ALWAYS gone when I look for them. You taller guys with the bigger sizes usually have all the luck since no one wants to buy humongous clothing/shoes.

You guys have longer strides, greater reach, better hops, and can see over the steering wheel.

Yeah the air is thicker down here but that only means more air pressure pushing me down.

I would still rather be 6.2 6.4. I don't see many of us short guys playing in professional sports.

BimmerDude18
01-27-2009, 07:30 PM
Haha I think I have the most common pant/shoe size (30 by 32). So they are ALWAYS gone when I look for them. You taller guys with the bigger sizes usually have all the luck since no one wants to buy humongous clothing/shoes.

You guys have longer strides, greater reach, better hops, and can see over the steering wheel.

Yeah the air is thicker down here but that only means more air pressure pushing me down.

I would still rather be 6.2 6.4. I don't see many of us short guys playing in professional sports.Try finding 30/34 dress pants, or a 38 Long sport coat.

Being tall and skinny sucks, that 38 Long still needing to have the sleeves lengthened doesn't go well either.

When I wear dress clothes I feel like white trash that just got out of jail because they don't fit right.

AntB
01-28-2009, 12:12 AM
You guys are my heroes, :bow: hopefully I can do the same thing to my car towards the end of the year! :4ngie:

Enik
01-28-2009, 01:31 AM
I like the part apart armadillo action. Requesting more action of that sort.

bluejeansonfire
01-28-2009, 08:39 AM
Haha I think I have the most common pant/shoe size (30 by 32). So they are ALWAYS gone when I look for them. You taller guys with the bigger sizes usually have all the luck since no one wants to buy humongous clothing/shoes.

You guys have longer strides, greater reach, better hops, and can see over the steering wheel.

Yeah the air is thicker down here but that only means more air pressure pushing me down.

I would still rather be 6.2 6.4. I don't see many of us short guys playing in professional sports.

34x36-8, nearly no one make 36length, much less the preferred 38. I have to have anything long sleeved custom made, i start with a jacket 42 xxlong, then it get tapered to a 40, and the sleeves still have to be stretched. no jacket fits me without significant modification. and 6.2 or 6.4 would be more reasonable than my height.
Dude, I had to peel my roof and install a cf roof to delete the sunroof so i would fit in the car properly. looking over the steering wheel is overrated, be happy you can fit in the car.

I like the part apart armadillo action. Requesting more action of that sort. that was david chasing an armadillo with his camera. there was more stuff of that sort last night, but we were just too excited about finishing- though not starting up, to even think about pics.

We'll have video of first start-up.

Trans still needs mounting, waiting on infamous clutch tool

bluejeansonfire
01-28-2009, 11:48 AM
i put up a small update e46nonm.com turbo build (http://e46nonm.com/?page_id=133)

aggieE46
01-28-2009, 11:55 AM
Nice! You must be getting really excited.

bluejeansonfire
01-28-2009, 01:20 PM
Nice! You must be getting really excited.

:werd:

clutch alignment tool in my hand!

Brian N
01-28-2009, 01:45 PM
When I wear dress clothes I feel like white trash that just got out of jail because they don't fit right.

:rofl:

34x36-8, nearly no one make 36length, much less the preferred 38. I have to have anything long sleeved custom made, i start with a jacket 42 xxlong, then it get tapered to a 40, and the sleeves still have to be stretched. no jacket fits me without significant modification. and 6.2 or 6.4 would be more reasonable than my height.
Dude, I had to peel my roof and install a cf roof to delete the sunroof so i would fit in the car properly. looking is over the steering wheel is overrated, be happy you can fit in the car.

that was david chasing an armadillo with his camera. there was more stuff of that sort last night, but we were just too excited about finishing- though not starting up, to even think about pics.

We'll have video of first start-up.

Trans still needs mounting, waiting on infamous clutch tool

Haha well most jeans I get have a 38-40 length! It is crazy stackage. (Though I like it. Popular among jean freaks.) But these are the jean fanatic jeans that cost quite a bit.

Yeah I am 5.8 so it isn't too bad I guess though I would really love to have an extra 4 inches to be a least 6.0. Oh well that's life.

CF roof! I didn't know you had one of those! :drool::drool:

And I am eagerly waiting for the vids. :excited:

SL Blak Soldier
01-28-2009, 10:48 PM
wow guys, are you guys installing a turbo or talking about the new pair of levi's that came out?! :rofl: so OT. haha w/e

hmm seems like you guys are close to being done. can't wait.

Activ3
01-29-2009, 01:38 AM
wow guys, are you guys installing a turbo or talking about the new pair of levi's that came out?! :rofl: so OT. haha w/e

hmm seems like you guys are close to being done. can't wait.
:rofl: we're nearly there!

Brian N
01-29-2009, 01:39 AM
Any updates?

Activ3
01-29-2009, 01:44 AM
should be done tomorrow.. trans is partially on

Brian N
01-29-2009, 01:48 AM
should be done tomorrow.. trans is partially on

Sweet. Can't wait. :4ngie: How long is the "break in" period?

BimmerDude18
01-29-2009, 03:32 AM
should be done tomorrow.. trans is partially on

You get that line fixed? My night has gotten worse, shall be an interesting weekend.

bluejeansonfire
01-29-2009, 08:36 AM
You get that line fixed? My night has gotten worse, shall be an interesting weekend.

tyler, i'm unintentionally saving your life, maybe. I hope things go well.

The oil line hasn't been reinstalled yet, such a shame to undo all that perfectly spaced and tightened intake piping. But, once reinstalled, and it needs to be david and his capable hands to reach that line, so it'll be late today that it fires. David has tremendous amount of school work to do. I do too. We'll see. the transmission has two bolts i need to find. all the other ones are on there except the evil passenger side top one, the one that hides behind the firewall, seemingly out side the reach of massively long extensions from behind the trans.
Then, there is crossmember and shifter, downpipe and wastegate. I have to assemble my driveshaft, it's in three+ pieces. The gauges are go. The wiring is go, thanks to tyler. The headliner is chillin' out until i can recline the seats fully back to put it back in. But i don't want to plug the battery in until I'm ready to start.
this install saw my garage in immaculately clean shape, which has shortly turned into a nightmare of disorganization and it took us 20 minutes, minimum to find an e14 last night. I was ready to buy another one.

aggieE46
01-29-2009, 10:16 AM
I know that feeling. I generally think I've lost it in the engine bay. I hate losing tools. It's so easy to put things back where they're supposed to go when they're done, but I always get excited and in a hurry.

Keep up the good work.

Activ3
01-29-2009, 01:22 PM
I know that feeling. I generally think I've lost it in the engine bay. I hate losing tools. It's so easy to put things back where they're supposed to go when they're done, but I always get excited and in a hurry.

Keep up the good work.
I've neglected school for a while.. planning a speech now for a class at 3pm :rofl:

A55A55IN
01-29-2009, 02:04 PM
I've neglected school for a while.. planning a speech now for a class at 3pm :rofl:

just print out the DIY and present it :D

bluejeansonfire
01-29-2009, 02:29 PM
Happy birthday DAVID!!!!!!

mini updates, e46nonm.com celebrate David's birthday by clicking on our advertisers.

SL Blak Soldier
01-29-2009, 04:18 PM
Sweet. Can't wait. :4ngie: How long is the "break in" period?

if i'm not mistaken the break in shouldn't be too long since they didn't tear apart the block. the twarbo just needs some oil and its good to go.

JELBMW330I
01-29-2009, 04:23 PM
nice updates. and HAPPY BIRTHDAY DAVID!!!!!!!!!

A55A55IN
01-29-2009, 04:31 PM
Happy bday DAVE!!!!!!

Brian N
01-29-2009, 06:29 PM
Happy Birthday!

bluejeansonfire
01-29-2009, 11:38 PM
i fukpted e46nonm.com

malina
01-29-2009, 11:52 PM
i fukpted e46nonm.com

You need to take a rest, after that it will go on smoothly.

SL Blak Soldier
01-30-2009, 12:14 AM
You need to take a rest, after that it will go on smoothly.

werd take a day or two off. come back to it on saturday/sunday.

325rider
01-30-2009, 01:59 AM
O no Julio! What was the damage? Is there any? ...Or do you just have to take everything down :hmm:

bluejeansonfire
01-30-2009, 08:00 AM
O no Julio! What was the damage? Is there any? ...Or do you just have to take everything down :hmm:

no damage, i just need to take EVERYTHING apart again. everything=transmission and all the things that must come down for it to come down.

330i ZHP
01-30-2009, 08:03 AM
damn dude - this sh1t happens. sorry

I feel your pain - believe me

aggieE46
01-30-2009, 11:01 AM
Oh man.... I've been there, believe me. Not with the throw-out bearing, but with other parts that added an extra 4 hours or so to my install. That really sucks.

Hey, your CF roof. I know you have to weld in the support... I was under the impression that you had to remove glass, too. Is it easier than I'm thinking?

bluejeansonfire
01-30-2009, 12:11 PM
Oh man.... I've been there, believe me. Not with the throw-out bearing, but with other parts that added an extra 4 hours or so to my install. That really sucks.

Hey, your CF roof. I know you have to weld in the support... I was under the impression that you had to remove glass, too. Is it easier than I'm thinking?

i don't know exactly what you're thinking, but you seem to be along the right path. I did it in the same garage you see the pics. In fact, I still have the roof sitting in the corner. I had the glass pulled, drilled out a many spotwelds, peeled the roof, bolted the support in with sheetmetal screws. Then, I drove the car to my father's and he tacked the roof to the body with some spotwelds.

:tsk::banghead:I don't know how i was so stupid:cry::facepalm:

325rider
01-30-2009, 12:15 PM
:facepalm: werd. O well you didn't damage anything FTW just keep at it :bow: Good luck with pulling the tranny again..... and I think I'm going to be home a week from today :craig:

kpeng
01-30-2009, 12:21 PM
Sorry Julio, but that deserves a:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/kpeng/facepalm.jpg

aggieE46
01-30-2009, 03:30 PM
Okay, so it IS necessary to pull the glass. Gotcha.

I'd love to do it down the road. Which roof are you using? OEM? Vorst?

i don't know exactly what you're thinking, but you seem to be along the right path. I did it in the same garage you see the pics. In fact, I still have the roof sitting in the corner. I had the glass pulled, drilled out a many spotwelds, peeled the roof, bolted the support in with sheetmetal screws. Then, I drove the car to my father's and he tacked the roof to the body with some spotwelds.

:tsk::banghead:I don't know how i was so stupid:cry::facepalm:

aggieE46
01-30-2009, 03:31 PM
I'm sure his forehead is already pretty red. :(

Sorry Julio, but that deserves a:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/kpeng/facepalm.jpg

bluejeansonfire
01-30-2009, 03:36 PM
Okay, so it IS necessary to pull the glass. Gotcha.

I'd love to do it down the road. Which roof are you using? OEM? Vorst?

vorsteiner... fitment is perfect

Aktiv3
01-30-2009, 05:36 PM
nice work guys

Brian N
02-01-2009, 04:23 PM
Hope you guys start back up on this soon. Sucks you forgot to install the part.

bluejeansonfire
02-01-2009, 06:08 PM
Today or tomorrow the trans should be out.

but until then, check out boosted 323's gallery on our blog e46nonm.com

SL Blak Soldier
02-02-2009, 05:27 AM
quick question, why did you decide not to go with something like a 3" single exhaust and go with your hks?

bluejeansonfire
02-02-2009, 06:35 AM
quick question, why did you decide not to go with something like a 3" single exhaust and go with your hks?

The HKS exhaust made for the e46, the "sport exhaust". It goes from the hedders at 2.25-2.5in, through a pair of parallel resonators and into y-pipe that goes to 3", right after it becomes 3", it has a flange, so that the exhaust is collapsible. Nick's kit comes with a requisite part of the exhaust- with a cat, that goes into the factory 2in x 2, if you're not getting custom stuff done. It doesn't really work with my exhaust unless I were to get something welded in. I'm skipping the cat altogether. Instead, I'm not using the front section of my HKS. I'm having a 3" flange welded to the back of downpipe and having a custom mid-pipe made to go from the downpipe to my HKS, now mostly an axle-back. The HKS uses a straight-through "turbo muffler" design with stainless pipe, there's absolutely no good reason to get rid of it, and it's 3" the entire way with it. No, wait, it goes into two 2.5" tips coming out of the muffler at the rear. So the tips are a bit smallish. But I like the dual tips look on e46s.

BTW, props on the ambers, I rock them too, on the front. soon to be yellow laminx over clear corners, as are my eagle eye tails.

bluejeansonfire
02-02-2009, 11:15 AM
mid-day update, iphone pics posted, sorry about shitty resolution

kpeng
02-02-2009, 11:18 AM
Stop saying "hedders", it's really starting to annoy me.

HEADERS

HEADERS

HEADERS!!!!!!!

bluejeansonfire
02-02-2009, 12:01 PM
Stop saying "hedders", it's really starting to annoy me.

HEADERS

HEADERS

HEADERS!!!!!!!

Some American 3rd party brands call their tubular EXHAUST MANIFOLDS "hedders". Many companies do also call them "headers", but as I see it, it's arbitrary either way. A more appropriate name, if you want to nitpick, is exhaust manifold. Why look for spelling abnormalities in arbitrary names? I go back and fourth between hedders and headers.

Please don't make this thread a stupid semantics argument. If you're annoyed, close your eyes and hit the backspace key.

kpeng
02-02-2009, 12:04 PM
I've only seen one company refer to "exhaust manifolds" aka "headers" as "hedders", and that's Hedman...they do so as a gimmick.

Just making an observation.

/topic

Activ3
02-02-2009, 01:30 PM
me = fever = upset stomach = fail... spent the weekend in tally only to get sick on the way up there and sit in the hotel room the whole weekend :facepalm:

bluejeansonfire
02-02-2009, 02:04 PM
me = fever = upset stomach = fail... spent the weekend in tally only to get sick on the way up there and sit in the hotel room the whole weekend :facepalm:

You're alive!! That totally sucks, your birthday weekend... sorry, man

frankieb96
02-02-2009, 04:09 PM
me = fever = upset stomach = fail... spent the weekend in tally only to get sick on the way up there and sit in the hotel room the whole weekend :facepalm:

imagine how sick you'll be on your next birthday. . .

SL Blak Soldier
02-02-2009, 05:19 PM
The HKS exhaust made for the e46, the "sport exhaust". It goes from the hedders at 2.25-2.5in, through a pair of parallel resonators and into y-pipe that goes to 3", right after it becomes 3", it has a flange, so that the exhaust is collapsible. Nick's kit comes with a requisite part of the exhaust- with a cat, that goes into the factory 2in x 2, if you're not getting custom stuff done. It doesn't really work with my exhaust unless I were to get something welded in. I'm skipping the cat altogether. Instead, I'm not using the front section of my HKS. I'm having a 3" flange welded to the back of downpipe and having a custom mid-pipe made to go from the downpipe to my HKS, now mostly an axle-back. The HKS uses a straight-through "turbo muffler" design with stainless pipe, there's absolutely no good reason to get rid of it, and it's 3" the entire way with it. No, wait, it goes into two 2.5" tips coming out of the muffler at the rear. So the tips are a bit smallish. But I like the dual tips look on e46s.

BTW, props on the ambers, I rock them too, on the front. soon to be yellow laminx over clear corners, as are my eagle eye tails.

Ahh i see. So in essence you are running a 3" exhaust.

Thanks for the :luv: of the ambers. i was going to do the same with the laminx but instead just used yellow bulbs for the corners/sides/rears, and got laminx for my fogs. I wanna see some pics though when you get them on.

BimmerDude18
02-02-2009, 06:15 PM
imagine how sick you'll be on your next birthday. . .:rofl:

Don't worry David, I had a rough weekend as well. I think we all had a rough time :eek:

Activ3
02-02-2009, 09:33 PM
imagine how sick you'll be on your next birthday. . .
hopefully a better kind of sick though :4ngie:

pei330ci
02-03-2009, 06:48 AM
This stuff happens Julio...I've spent many many hours going backwards with stuff on my car.

If it makes you feel any better, it looks like I need to pull my engine out because of a clearance issue I found...

bluejeansonfire
02-03-2009, 10:30 AM
This stuff happens Julio...I've spent many many hours going backwards with stuff on my car.

If it makes you feel any better, it looks like I need to pull my engine out because of a clearance issue I found...

:bow:Dude, I don't know how you do it. I mean, we're doing it, but we're not doing what you're doing. How do you not have a lift? If you were to sell some of your spare hose fittings, funding wouldn't be an issue for a nice used rotary. We're installing a turbo kit. And doing some other menial upkeep-level work such as the clutch job. But you're transforming your car on an entirely different level. And not having a lift sucks, a lot; even for us.

I hope motor pulling goes well. Do you hoist everything out? tranny and all? btw, when's your fire-up scheduled for? Thinking about your setup, I would REALLY love to have a VAC oiling block- which I will probably end up with considering my desires for an accumulator and oil cooler. But right now, just to have the filter housing relocated, so that i could reach that effing oil line.

bluejeansonfire
02-03-2009, 12:43 PM
more mid-day update and pic

aggieE46
02-03-2009, 03:05 PM
I feel so bad for you about that tranny. Nice job getting the oil line back off, though. You'll have her running any day.

Brian N
02-03-2009, 11:21 PM
Hope your hard at work right now.

David get better please! I want to see some kills in the beast already. (JK, rest up. I had the stomach flu last week so I know how you feel.)

bluejeansonfire
02-04-2009, 02:03 AM
throw-out bearing is in and transmission is somewhat on. It's caught on the threads of some of the bolts. there's a jack under it. David and Chris came by last night. David was recovering in the lounging area of the garage of non-M. While Chris and I did some transmission wrestling.

SL Blak Soldier
02-04-2009, 04:28 AM
damn i wish i lived out with you guys. i do the same things but we work on jdm cars. lol. only if we had a bigger performance non-m fanatics here.

Brian N
02-04-2009, 01:02 PM
damn i wish i lived out with you guys. i do the same things but we work on jdm cars. lol. only if we had a bigger performance non-m fanatics here.

We could if we just had jobs. :P

bluejeansonfire
02-04-2009, 02:01 PM
damn i wish i lived out with you guys. i do the same things but we work on jdm cars. lol. only if we had a bigger performance non-m fanatics here.

We could if we just had jobs. :P

David and I are pretty much the only two obsessive nonM hiperf fanatics here. Not to say we're the only bmw boost fans in the area. I'm willing to bet orlando has one of the highest concentrations of boosted bimmers. But only a few of us got stuck with nonMs, most of the guys affording boost are affording m3s. But a few of us, who never gave up, or never had a chance to upgrade, decided to upgrade the ride, a lot, like David and myself. And it's to the point of, "is an m3 better?" And certainly there are reasons that would suggest "yes". But I'm currently leanin' "no"...or better yet, "non"....-M. My car is certainly more aggressive, but sometimes it's things i wish that weren't. Like my kaaz diff. It's cool, 2wd! But, jesus, that thing makes a hell of a racket, and it jerks the entire car and spins inside tires in parking lots. When I described what my diff was doing to a bmw tech who wasn't the wiser, he accused my wheel bearing of being shot.
So sometimes its quinka questionable to be a nonm fanatic. I'm not sure people would be willing to trade me money for my car. But jesus, this thing should be fast.


i skipped two hours out of my eight hour class to finish the transmission install. Well, it took me 20 minutes to get the rest of the bolts on and tight. When I say the rest, the transmission was more on the jack than on the transmission this morning, but feeling fresh this cold florida morning, they're all tight and it's on... the professor is a real dick, so yeah, 2 hrs. Potential fireup day tonight, after class.

dreamdrivedrift
02-04-2009, 02:05 PM
We could if we just had jobs. :P

+1, if only I had the funds......

bronze CSLs dumped, poke & stretch, turbo kit, diff, etc etc.

can't wait til this thing starts up! did you install the kaaz diff yourself?

bluejeansonfire
02-04-2009, 02:30 PM
+1, if only I had the funds......

bronze CSLs dumped, poke & stretch, turbo kit, diff, etc etc.

can't wait til this thing starts up! did you install the kaaz diff yourself?

David and I installed the diff, my father built the diff with the kaaz unit.

bluejeansonfire
02-04-2009, 04:44 PM
mini-update

dreamdrivedrift
02-04-2009, 05:06 PM
David and I installed the diff, my father built the diff with the kaaz unit.

What did he have to do to put the diff in with the kaaz unit? Is it as simple as opening the diff up, taking the open diff guts out, and putting in the kaaz unit?

bluejeansonfire
02-04-2009, 05:25 PM
What did he have to do to put the diff in with the kaaz unit? Is it as simple as opening the diff up, taking the open diff guts out, and putting in the kaaz unit?

I've gone over this several times in this forum, so here http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showpost.php?p=9141080&postcount=16

Brian N
02-04-2009, 05:28 PM
David and I are pretty much the only two obsessive nonM hiperf fanatics here. Not to say we're the only bmw boost fans in the area. I'm willing to bet orlando has one of the highest concentrations of boosted bimmers. But only a few of us got stuck with nonMs, most of the guys affording boost are affording m3s. But a few of us, who never gave up, or never had a chance to upgrade, decided to upgrade the ride, a lot, like David and myself. And it's to the point of, "is an m3 better?" And certainly there are reasons that would suggest "yes". But I'm currently leanin' "no"...or better yet, "non"....-M. My car is certainly more aggressive, but sometimes it's things i wish that weren't. Like my kaaz diff. It's cool, 2wd! But, jesus, that thing makes a hell of a racket, and it jerks the entire car and spins inside tires in parking lots. When I described what my diff was doing to a bmw tech who wasn't the wiser, he accused my wheel bearing of being shot.
So sometimes its quinka questionable to be a nonm fanatic. I'm not sure people would be willing to trade me money for my car. But jesus, this thing should be fast.


i skipped two hours out of my eight hour class to finish the transmission install. Well, it took me 20 minutes to get the rest of the bolts on and tight. When I say the rest, the transmission was more on the jack than on the transmission this morning, but feeling fresh this cold florida morning, they're all tight and it's on... the professor is a real dick, so yeah, 2 hrs. Potential fireup day tonight, after class.

I hear you. I really want to mod my car to it's fullest like you, modding has halted for me for the last 2 years because of elbow issues/surgeries. It's hard to get a job when one arm is constantly out of commission for months at a time. Though an ///M might me in my future I still want the most performance out of my 330. After a few "basic" handling mods I will be diving into a 6-speed manual tranny swap. (From my automatic.) and hopefully I can follow in your shoes and go F/I. I don't really mind spending the money since I want to keep the 330 with my forever if possible.

Man sounds exciting start up and some quick tests runs right? :4ngie:


Oh yeah where did you get your 6-speed from? Is it non-m or m too? Thanks.

bluejeansonfire
02-04-2009, 05:36 PM
I hear you. I really want to mod my car to it's fullest like you, modding has halted for me for the last 2 years because of elbow issues/surgeries. It's hard to get a job when one arm is constantly out of commission for months at a time. Though an ///M might me in my future I still want the most performance out of my 330. After a few "basic" handling mods I will be diving into a 6-speed manual tranny swap. (From my automatic.) and hopefully I can follow in your shoes and go F/I. I don't really mind spending the money since I want to keep the 330 with my forever if possible.

Man sounds exciting start up and some quick tests runs right? :4ngie:

Oh yeah where did you get your 6-speed from? Is it non-m or m too? Thanks.

Man sounds exciting start up and some quick tests runs right? :4ngie:
fo sho, bumperless, exposed intercooler runs are shortly to come.

Oh yeah where did you get your 6-speed from? Is it non-m or m too? Thanks.
it's a zhp-style, late model e46 330 trans, which has a pilot bearing in the flywheel, which is weird. This is the reason I had to change my flywheel/clutch package. Beyond the bearing in the flywheel, it also used a fine-spline clutch disc.
If it was a ///M trans from an e46, I would only have needed to change the clutch disc. If it were an e36 evo 6-speed, the clutch/flywheel package would've been untouched.

goofy78
02-04-2009, 09:43 PM
you will love the sound of the 3 inch exhaust. I am running a 3 inch straight thru exhaust without the cats. super loud upon acceleration. may have droning when cruising, it depends on what rear box you going to use.

positively not, i'm having a 3" pipe made by the local mandrel pipe bender to connect the downpipe to the rear section of my e46 hks hedderback

bluejeansonfire
02-04-2009, 10:15 PM
you will love the sound of the 3 inch exhaust. I am running a 3 inch straight thru exhaust without the cats. super loud upon acceleration. may have droning when cruising, it depends on what rear box you going to use.

I'm using the hks muffler. I've run a straight 3" with hedders and one really retarded resonator. It was horrible. I think that the turbo sounds completely different from headers. We'll see though, i hope i do like it. If i don't I'll change the muffler configuration to either a different rear muffler or add something in the middle or both.

BimmerDude18
02-04-2009, 10:45 PM
You got that thing running yet? I think my 90 minutes a night fixing my truck is going to get done before your car :rofl:.

I got my water pump back on, alternator is cleaned up and on(it was a nightmare), the thermostat has to be changed, I need to rinse the engine (coolant out), get distilled water, and slap the belts on with some good tension and she'll be running in no time.

bluejeansonfire
02-05-2009, 01:21 AM
You got that thing running yet? I think my 90 minutes a night fixing my truck is going to get done before your car :rofl:.

I got my water pump back on, alternator is cleaned up and on(it was a nightmare), the thermostat has to be changed, I need to rinse the engine (coolant out), get distilled water, and slap the belts on with some good tension and she'll be running in no time.

very nearly, it's pretty certain she'll run tomorrow. The biggest blunder of the evening was the clutch line. I pulled the old slave cylinder off the line, and it immediately pissed everywhere, as it should. Then I realized that the place where the line goes in is where ZHPs have their CDVs. So I put the clutch line back to the old slave cylinder to close it up. And pulled the CDV. Still I could not get the threads caught with all that metal and rubber grommetry. So back into the old slave cylinder it sits. As I had hedders, we're also guessing the front bank O2 sensor to be the longer of the two pre-cats- hopefully we'll be right. The transmission and all of its poops are in, except the clutch line. And there's lots of brake fluid everywhere. The turbo feed line is in. The charge pipe is in and spark plugs are ready to be pulled, bare of their coils, thanks to David.
There's still a clutch line, plugs, heat shield, underhood brace & microfilter shits, Donwpipe and wastegate, narrowband & wideband sensor, underbody brace, battery terminal, zip tie front end. And ready to go bumperless, I'm pretty certain it's happening tomorrow.

kpeng
02-05-2009, 01:23 AM
Video of the startup tomorrow, or ban!

sin11234
02-05-2009, 01:40 AM
Video of the startup tomorrow, or ban!

:woot:

bluejeansonfire
02-05-2009, 01:43 AM
Video of the startup tomorrow, or ban!

there'll be something though it might be a bit lq.... sd550

kpeng
02-05-2009, 01:44 AM
there'll be something though it might be a bit lq.... sd550

Anything shall do. Good luck dude, hope it all goes smoothly.

SL Blak Soldier
02-05-2009, 02:42 AM
very nearly, it's pretty certain she'll run tomorrow. The biggest blunder of the evening was the clutch line. I pulled the old slave cylinder off the line, and it immediately pissed everywhere, as it should. Then I realized that the place where the line goes in is where ZHPs have their CDVs. So I put the clutch line back to the old slave cylinder to close it up. And pulled the CDV. Still I could not get the threads caught with all that metal and rubber grommetry. So back into the old slave cylinder it sits. As I had hedders, we're also guessing the front bank O2 sensor to be the longer of the two pre-cats- hopefully we'll be right. The transmission and all of its poops are in, except the clutch line. And there's lots of brake fluid everywhere. The turbo feed line is in. The charge pipe is in and spark plugs are ready to be pulled, bare of their coils, thanks to David.
There's still a clutch line, plugs, heat shield, underhood brace & microfilter shits, Donwpipe and wastegate, narrowband & wideband sensor, underbody brace, battery terminal, zip tie front end. And ready to go bumperless, I'm pretty certain it's happening tomorrow.

zip ties ftw!

part of my front is zip tied right now.

Good luck with the start up tomorrow. hope everything is tight!

BimmerDude18
02-05-2009, 06:43 AM
Can you cut some of that **** off to fit the new slave, of are you going to try to just get it on without. Be careful with no front bumper, and maybe this weekend we can get the water/meth finished?

bluejeansonfire
02-05-2009, 08:59 AM
Anything shall do. Good luck dude, hope it all goes smoothly.

word, thnx!

zip ties ftw!

part of my front is zip tied right now.

Good luck with the start up tomorrow. hope everything is tight!

Zip ties are solely what holds the bumper onto the aluminum bar. It used to be windshield sealant. But zip ties don't fail unlike improper use of glue. It's how the body shop installed it. It fell off, I fixed it.

Can you cut some of that **** off to fit the new slave, of are you going to try to just get it on without. Be careful with no front bumper, and maybe this weekend we can get the water/meth finished?

No cutting, maybe straight deleting. I'll take care of the intercooler, if you come by and we rally some parts, it'll be finished.

pei330ci
02-05-2009, 12:21 PM
:bow:Dude, I don't know how you do it. I mean, we're doing it, but we're not doing what you're doing. How do you not have a lift? If you were to sell some of your spare hose fittings, funding wouldn't be an issue for a nice used rotary. We're installing a turbo kit. And doing some other menial upkeep-level work such as the clutch job. But you're transforming your car on an entirely different level. And not having a lift sucks, a lot; even for us.

I hope motor pulling goes well. Do you hoist everything out? tranny and all? btw, when's your fire-up scheduled for? Thinking about your setup, I would REALLY love to have a VAC oiling block- which I will probably end up with considering my desires for an accumulator and oil cooler. But right now, just to have the filter housing relocated, so that i could reach that effing oil line.

I'm getting close to ordering a lift...money was never an issue. The main problem was where to put it...as I really enjoy having a nice open floor space to work from. Here's one solution I've been looking at:

http://www.maxjaxusa.com/index.html

I also "cheated" for a great amount of work on the chassis, by using my rotissery. It made working on the bottom of the car really easy...

To remove my engine, it's pretty simple:

- Disconnect coolant, oil, and fuel lines. (Pretty easy with AN fittings)

- Disconnect engine wiring harnesses from DME, and pull through firewall (takes 2 minutes)

- Disconnect exhaust header flange

- Undo engine/tranny mounts

- Disconnect driveshaft and shifter from tranny

- Pull out engine with hoist

At some point I'm going to time myself...


Great to hear you are close to firing up your beast...I know how you feel right now.

Activ3
02-05-2009, 01:17 PM
I'm getting close to ordering a lift...money was never an issue. The main problem was where to put it...as I really enjoy having a nice open floor space to work from. Here's one solution I've been looking at:

http://www.maxjaxusa.com/index.html

I also "cheated" for a great amount of work on the chassis, by using my rotissery. It made working on the bottom of the car really easy...

To remove my engine, it's pretty simple:

- Disconnect coolant, oil, and fuel lines. (Pretty easy with AN fittings)

- Disconnect engine wiring harnesses from DME, and pull through firewall (takes 2 minutes)

- Disconnect exhaust header flange

- Undo engine/tranny mounts

- Disconnect driveshaft and shifter from tranny

- Pull out engine with hoist

At some point I'm going to time myself...


Great to hear you are close to firing up your beast...I know how you feel right now.
Close to firing up yours as well? :excited:

SWINFORD
02-05-2009, 04:16 PM
Can't wait to see it you tall SOB :excited:

Activ3
02-05-2009, 04:22 PM
Can't wait to see it you tall SOB :excited:
:rofl:

should be done today.. i'm feeling a lot better and should be done or close to done with HW when hoolio gets out of class

BadBoostedBmwM3
02-05-2009, 05:46 PM
I'm getting close to ordering a lift...money was never an issue. The main problem was where to put it...as I really enjoy having a nice open floor space to work from. Here's one solution I've been looking at:

http://www.maxjaxusa.com/index.html



I've been looking at that lift.... BUT Im wondering about the safety factor!!

Brian N
02-05-2009, 07:41 PM
I'm getting close to ordering a lift...money was never an issue. The main problem was where to put it...as I really enjoy having a nice open floor space to work from. Here's one solution I've been looking at:

http://www.maxjaxusa.com/index.html

I also "cheated" for a great amount of work on the chassis, by using my rotissery. It made working on the bottom of the car really easy...



Whoa... cool lift!! How much does one of those cost though. :cry:

parad0x
02-05-2009, 10:28 PM
I hate to go off topic Lol, but god damn Im liking that lift.. how much? I am curiosu too.

dreamdrivedrift
02-05-2009, 10:58 PM
:eeps: waiting for the startup vid

Activ3
02-05-2009, 11:23 PM
Its alive! vids uploading shortly

SWINFORD
02-06-2009, 12:15 AM
Its alive! vids uploading shortly

Waits

JELBMW330I
02-06-2009, 12:21 AM
Its alive! vids uploading shortly nice cant wait.

Activ3
02-06-2009, 12:23 AM
Vids are up on the website for download.

JELBMW330I
02-06-2009, 12:28 AM
Vids are up on the website for download.

I was just seeing that now. but its only a sound clip right?

bluejeansonfire
02-06-2009, 12:28 AM
I'm getting close to ordering a lift...money was never an issue. The main problem was where to put it...as I really enjoy having a nice open floor space to work from. Here's one solution I've been looking at:

http://www.maxjaxusa.com/index.html

I also "cheated" for a great amount of work on the chassis, by using my rotissery. It made working on the bottom of the car really easy...

To remove my engine, it's pretty simple:

- Disconnect coolant, oil, and fuel lines. (Pretty easy with AN fittings)

- Disconnect engine wiring harnesses from DME, and pull through firewall (takes 2 minutes)

- Disconnect exhaust header flange

- Undo engine/tranny mounts

- Disconnect driveshaft and shifter from tranny

- Pull out engine with hoist

At some point I'm going to time myself...


Great to hear you are close to firing up your beast...I know how you feel right now.

Nice lift. And nice cheating skills with the rotisserie.
And, btw, as David said, it's alive. I can't wait to hear of your startup. Well, I wonder... will boost finally hold the best e46 nonM times? We'll see.

I hate to go off topic Lol, but god damn Im liking that lift.. how much? I am curiosu too.

no probs, i agree, what a sick lift. That thing would make my life 4857871437137 times better.

Its alive! vids uploading shortly

It's so fast, yall. There wasn't a whole lot of hooking up it's 34 degrees here. So that was probably ideal to be strapped to a dyno.
Somehow, despite blowing flames under the car and idling like ass- it's my cams, no worries, this will be remedied soon- we drove right by some cops, open downpipe, no front bumper, "idling" between 500-1500- and nothing. NO pull over, nothing.
At one point, she held a beautiful 1000rpm idle, then i touched the throttle and killed that beautiful idle. 1000rpm is the idle i requested to try to mask my current cam timing issues before dyno tuning.
She sometimes dies and spends a fair amount of time hunting for idle. My current cam-timing situation is a little dodgy, this should clear up with a cam install. I'm going 248/256 schrick fi cams. Then, after I have a bit of a taste, and depending on how streetable she is, she'll be going to Nick for high boost, and meth tuning.

David has the vids, they should be up soon on e46nonm.com

Activ3
02-06-2009, 12:31 AM
they are up, and they are not sound clips, they're .avi files

JELBMW330I
02-06-2009, 12:32 AM
Nice lift. And nice cheating skills with the rotisserie.
And, btw, as David said, it's alive. I can't wait to hear of your startup. Well, I wonder... will boost finally hold the best e46 nonM times? We'll see.



no probs, i agree, what a sick lift. That thing would make my life 4857871437137 times better.



It's so fast, yall. There wasn't a whole lot of hooking up it's 34 degrees here. So that was probably ideal to be strapped to a dyno.
Somehow, despite blowing flames under the car and idling like ass- it's my cams, no worries, this will be remedied soon- we drove right by some cops, open downpipe, no front bumper, "idling" between 500-1500- and nothing. NO pull over, nothing.
At one point, she held a beautiful 1000rpm idle, then i touched the throttle and killed that beautiful idle. 1000rpm is the idle i requested to try to mask my current cam timing issues before dyno tuning.
She sometimes dies and spends a fair amount of time hunting for idle. My current cam-timing situation is a little dodgy, this should clear up with a cam install. I'm going 248/256 schrick fi cams. Then, after I have a bit of a taste, and depending on how streetable she is, she'll be going to Nick for high boost, and meth tuning.

David has the vids, they should be up soon on e46nonm.comnice Julio your probably happy as hell right now

bluejeansonfire
02-06-2009, 12:54 AM
nice Julio your probably happy as hell right now

oh, word!

dreamdrivedrift
02-06-2009, 01:10 AM
pretty fast, the kaaz diff is 3.46 right?

bluejeansonfire
02-06-2009, 01:45 AM
pretty fast, the kaaz diff is 3.46 right?

3.38, it fits many sizes

SL Blak Soldier
02-06-2009, 06:02 AM
nice stuff guys!

for a moment i thought you guys had some weird sounding compressor surge, but it turned out to be the V1.

So that unplugged harness was causing that bad idle correct?

bluejeansonfire
02-06-2009, 08:33 AM
nice stuff guys!

for a moment i thought you guys had some weird sounding compressor surge, but it turned out to be the V1.

So that unplugged harness was causing that bad idle correct?

The rough idle is a problem i've had with this motor. i think my cam timing is the issue. Wait to hear the idle produced by the fi cams

330i ZHP
02-06-2009, 08:52 AM
i dont think the FI cams will change the idle much from stock - mine is pretty much the same

330i ZHP
02-06-2009, 09:09 AM
how is it running today

BimmerDude18
02-06-2009, 10:28 AM
i dont think the FI cams will change the idle much from stock - mine is pretty much the same

The cam/Vanos timing is not set correctly. It hasn't been for a while, so thats most of the idle problem.

330i ZHP
02-06-2009, 10:35 AM
i figured

sataraid
02-06-2009, 12:06 PM
Nice work!! I have been lurking on this build. Looking forward to seeing more videos with exhaust installed.

MachRc
02-06-2009, 12:50 PM
..take some vids from the outside!!
&
post the vid links here too!

the excitment came like past 80% of the videos!


you asked for the idle to be set at 1k? not for flywheel but cams?

Novare330
02-06-2009, 01:12 PM
went for a ride in the car today, thing is a beast :str8pimpi

Activ3
02-06-2009, 01:15 PM
We're getting some oil on the top of the valve cover so we're gonna check all the PCV plumbing again after Julio gets out of class. The rest of the car still needs to be put back together as well (headliner was out, misc. interior pieces, front bumper, etc). Our trip to the drag strip is still on for next weekend, we'll be meeting up with Kpeng and some of his friends to try and set some new records :)

kpeng
02-06-2009, 01:25 PM
I will have video camera in hand for that :evil:

kpeng
02-06-2009, 01:25 PM
The cam/Vanos timing is not set correctly. It hasn't been for a while, so thats most of the idle problem.

You should set it for him.

bluejeansonfire
02-06-2009, 02:11 PM
i dont think the FI cams will change the idle much from stock - mine is pretty much the same

i hope it improves by being set more exactly

bluejeansonfire
02-06-2009, 02:14 PM
You should set it for him.

not a place for this....

/bad blood topic

the cams will be installed by irish mike himself

bluejeansonfire
02-06-2009, 02:17 PM
..take some vids from the outside!!
&
post the vid links here too!

the excitment came like past 80% of the videos!


you asked for the idle to be set at 1k? not for flywheel but cams?

to compensate for poor cam timing... but i would have had it raised just a tad anyway b/c of the jb flywheel

VIDS PAGE (http://e46nonm.com/?page_id=356)

BadBoostedBmwM3
02-06-2009, 06:25 PM
to compensate for poor cam timing... but i would have had it raised just a tad anyway b/c of the jb flywheel

VIDS PAGE (http://e46nonm.com/?page_id=356)

What exactly do you mean?? What for more vacuum. Why are they timed wrong??

BadBoostedBmwM3
02-06-2009, 06:34 PM
I want to see the videos... but they wont play for me??
With the correct timing, it should pull better up top. And, the ldle jumping... is probably from the ECU learning the new tune.

bluejeansonfire
02-06-2009, 06:58 PM
I want to see the videos... but they wont play for me??
With the correct timing, it should pull better up top. And, the ldle jumping... is probably from the ECU learning the new tune.

probbly, it's also the slightly cold plugs, 5 instead of 6, i was sold unintentionally at autozone... and i still blame it on the cam timing. We'll see how much better the new cams make everything.

What exactly do you mean?? What for more vacuum. Why are they timed wrong??

pretty much, it was timed with shims between the head and the timing tool.
But it's really close. So close it's beyond the computer throwing a code. And it's better than it was before as the computer was retarding spark and throwing a "jammed intake cam" code. These cams have been installed well before, but never in this motor. It always had a idle hunt issue. At startup, it's still there, but with the 1k rpm idle, it seems gone now.

sataraid
02-06-2009, 08:12 PM
I want to see the videos... but they wont play for me??
With the correct timing, it should pull better up top. And, the ldle jumping... is probably from the ECU learning the new tune.

You might need to download the DIVX player. File is using divx compression.

SWINFORD
02-06-2009, 09:02 PM
I wan't to have sex with the both of you guys :drool:

Aktiv3
02-06-2009, 10:29 PM
haha

SL Blak Soldier
02-06-2009, 11:20 PM
sorry to be o/t but this made me LOL...

"The e46 non-M is chosen by people for a number of reasons: lack of money to afford an M, or insurance concerns or because of looks (instead of making the wiser performance-oriented purchase of an e36 m)."

the only reason i laugh is because that is the only i kept hte 330 instead of going to a e36m. :rofl: anyways you guys should make a non-m thread somewhere so we don't spam this up.

BadBoostedBmwM3
02-07-2009, 02:05 AM
You might need to download the DIVX player. File is using divx compression.

thanks that did it!!

BTW, guys the videos are awesome are you running a LSD yet?? And, whats your gearing??

bluejeansonfire
02-07-2009, 03:14 AM
thanks that did it!!

BTW, guys the videos are awesome are you running a LSD yet?? And, whats your gearing??

YES!! since october i have had a 3.38 kaaz 1.5way ~90% lockup! That's what kept getting my ass sideways.

sorry to be o/t but this made me LOL...

"The e46 non-M is chosen by people for a number of reasons: lack of money to afford an M, or insurance concerns or because of looks (instead of making the wiser performance-oriented purchase of an e36 m)."

the only reason i laugh is because that is the only i kept hte 330 instead of going to a e36m. :rofl: anyways you guys should make a non-m thread somewhere so we don't spam this up.

Yeah, it reels you in, then you learn better. I tried to delude myself that the e46 nonM is an e36 M replacement, it isn't. It has some relationship to the e36 US M, no doubt. But it is far from earning its M badge. I think I was there motorwise with schricks, i could walk e36s all day, even the 'lum' flywheel such other non power mods. The suspension exceeded it when I upgraded to pss9 linear w/ gc race plates and kaaz diff. And the crowning jewel, my roof. Take that, CSL! Now it's a boosted e36 M replacement, but not as good. I don't have block strength, we're known to pull heads off our aluminum blocks, stripping the threads in the block. Nick might have just figured out the key to it though.

I really did buy my car 'cause it was the nearest thing to an e46 M I could get. And at the time, and still, it's a car I drool over. And I know that there are certain things it has, that I don't and wont have. Wide body (this I share w/ e36 M, 255... 265+1 for e46 non M coupe), sweet ball joints, control arms and fcabs (treehouse racing has a beautiful piece for us, I think I'm doing it when my meyle pieces fail), quad tips, sweet body kit, a huge unbreakeable lsd pumpkin, vanos assembled by gods, 8k redline, itbs... I'm stopping here as I see better value for my life than analyzing this.

If you feel apprehensive about thread destruction and want to maintain the sanctity of this discussion to boost as it is a FI forum, feel free to post anything you want on any part of e46nonm.com

I wan't to have sex with the both of you guys :drool:

I can't speak for David, but I'm down

You might need to download the DIVX player. File is using divx compression.

yeah, I don't know what's up with that camera, but that's just the format it outputs.


Written update to everything coming soon on e46nonm.com

BimmerDude18
02-07-2009, 03:51 AM
:rofl: Tonight proved to be entertaining. The oil leak seems to be PCV related and might be as simple as a sticky breather valve boosting the crap out of the valvetrain = oil everywhere. It didn't seem to be losing oil tonight.

Check your oil tomorrow Julio, I think that's your answer.

I'll leave the rest of the fun to Julio and David to post/

bluejeansonfire
02-07-2009, 03:56 AM
:rofl: Tonight proved to be entertaining. The oil leak seems to be PCV related and might be as simple as a sticky breather valve boosting the crap out of the valvetrain = oil everywhere. It didn't seem to be losing oil tonight.

Check your oil tomorrow Julio, I think that's your answer.

I'll leave the rest of the fun to Julio and David to post/

i have a run through of the night on e46nonm.com

Shadow5er
02-08-2009, 09:44 AM
is it broken yet? :eeps:

bluejeansonfire
02-08-2009, 08:29 PM
is it broken yet? :eeps:

no, but i am trouble-shooting a potentially stuck crankcase breather, pcv issue. btw, david and i did run...

SL Blak Soldier
02-09-2009, 02:20 PM
no, but i am trouble-shooting a potentially stuck crankcase breather, pcv issue. btw, david and i did run...

....andddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

BimmerDude18
02-09-2009, 05:52 PM
....andddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

He wants to solve the PCV issue before posting a result (not that this is indicative of the results), but I was surprised.

HPF Chris
02-09-2009, 08:45 PM
no, but i am trouble-shooting a potentially stuck crankcase breather, pcv issue. btw, david and i did run...

You might want to check the compression as well. Hopefully this is not the issue, but as soon as u hurt a piston you get what is called blow-by which is where the cylinder pressure goes into the crank-case and u see it coming out the Pcv. We see this on every blown motor we get.

Chris

bimmer07
02-09-2009, 09:36 PM
You might want to check the compression as well. Hopefully this is not the issue, but as soon as u hurt a piston you get what is called blow-by which is where the cylinder pressure goes into the crank-case and u see it coming out the Pcv. We see this on every blown motor we get.

Chris

I see blow-by on my subie and form what i can tell a lot of other turbo cars do this as well

HPF Chris
02-09-2009, 09:42 PM
I see blow-by on my subie and form what i can tell a lot of other turbo cars do this as well

if u have a good steady puff of air coming out the PCV at idle then you have cylinder pressure getting into the crankcase. Only two ways I know of that happening. 1) blown headgasket, 2) blown piston/rings.

bluejeansonfire
02-09-2009, 10:09 PM
You might want to check the compression as well. Hopefully this is not the issue, but as soon as u hurt a piston you get what is called blow-by which is where the cylinder pressure goes into the crank-case and u see it coming out the Pcv. We see this on every blown motor we get.

Chris

I seriously doubt this to be the issue, I wouldn't be nearly as fast. I'm thinking that since cleaning the crankcase breather, things have cleared up as far as boosting the crankcase. Now, I think I'm just leaking out of blown seals- that being the valve cover gasketry. I have it nearly together again.

HPF Chris
02-09-2009, 10:15 PM
I seriously doubt this to be the issue, I wouldn't be nearly as fast. I'm thinking that since cleaning the crankcase breather, things have cleared up as far as boosting the crankcase. Now, I think I'm just leaking out of blown seals- that being the valve cover gasketry. I have it nearly together again.

Good deal. While you have it apart I'd would do a quick compression test. We do this on every car we do. This would also explain why you had to raise the idle to get it to smooth out. Atleast this way you can rest easy and elimate the worst scenario first

chris

Activ3
02-09-2009, 10:20 PM
Good deal. While you have it apart I'd would do a quick compression test. We do this on every car we do. This would also explain why you had to raise the idle to get it to smooth out. Atleast this way you can rest easy and elimate the worst scenario first

chris
I believe the idle problems are because of the cams. I think the pcv issues have been figured out as well, there is no air coming from the pcv valve at idle, and we're really only seeing leakage under higher oil pressure, which leads us to believe it's just the valve cover gaskets being blown out from the initial pcv issue.

However, I do think that a compression test will settle any doubts about the motor. But on the same note, the car is pretty strong!

BimmerDude18
02-09-2009, 10:44 PM
I believe the idle problems are because of the cams. I think the pcv issues have been figured out as well, there is no air coming from the pcv valve at idle, and we're really only seeing leakage under higher oil pressure, which leads us to believe it's just the valve cover gaskets being blown out from the initial pcv issue.

However, I do think that a compression test will settle any doubts about the motor. But on the same note, the car is pretty strong!
Thats an understatement....no way he is down a cylinder.