More Vids of RACEMX-M3 Racing on Youtube

[HPF Chris]

The first video really shows how fast the cars are because the camera car (modified Ford GT running higher boost) doesn't go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqvjcbbSoH8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGlYbpu9-Ds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF0WkiZTdjk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfhoR6ZwyE0

[WiAlFe1229]

Sweet!!!

[RACEMX-M3]

I didn't even know these were up, good find Chris. :)

[pastE36prsntE46]

Hey Scott, what is the top speed you have gotten up to? And it appears well over the 155, what did you have done for the speed limiter to be removed, was that from HPF?

[RACEMX-M3]

Hey Scott, what is the top speed you have gotten up to? And it appears well over the 155, what did you have done for the speed limiter to be removed, was that from HPF?

I've seen 190 a couple of times, that's a f'ing rush. My car's DME still has the flash from GIAC that VFE did when I had their stage 2 kit on my car, which removes the speed limiter. Chris said it was ok to leave it as is, and I prefer not having the speed limiter so ok with me. :D

I didn't get past 170 in the vids. Even with the stock DME you should make it to 170 (indicated).

[BadBoostedBmwM3]

I've seen 190 a couple of times, that's a f'ing rush. My car's DME still has the flash from GIAC that VFE did when I had their stage 2 kit on my car, which removes the speed limiter. Chris said it was ok to leave it as is, and I prefer not having the speed limiter so ok with me. :D

I didn't get past 170 in the vids. Even with the stock DME you should make it to 170 (indicated).

I thought there were designed to not go past 155mph?? And, correct if Im wrong, but I think there isn't even a law rather they just make them that way from the factory.

Oh yea, around what speed did you all start at??

[S54PWR]

Scott shot like a bat out of hell in the eyes of the camera car...geez..:bow:

[SPDu4ea]

And, correct if Im wrong, but I think there isn't even a law rather they just make them that way from the factory.

My understanding is that it comes from US liability laws and Z-rated tires (150 "+" mph)

[JELBMW330I]

nice vid!!!!!hopefully one day ill have an ///M and a hpf kit. just like the black one with the volks.

[///Mbimmer]

wow :bow:

[RACEMX-M3]

I thought there were designed to not go past 155mph?? And, correct if Im wrong, but I think there isn't even a law rather they just make them that way from the factory.

Oh yea, around what speed did you all start at??

We started from around 60-70 mph. BMW states their cars are limited to 155, in stock form I was able to hit 170 (indicated) in both my E46 M3 and E60 M5. BMW's speedos are optomistic by about 5%, i.e. if the speedo says 170 your really going 162 - not a huge difference. Here's a clip of my 100% stock M5.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKwkJYLk1Y

[S54PWR]

Enjoying the spotlight aren't we. :) I love the ASR Exhaust on the M5/M6, the V10 sounds just like a lambo gallardo with it, it's simply amazing. Check it out on youtube. Type in ASR M6 or ASR M5. I believe Evan aka AMGETR had a Stage 3 M5 done by ASR.

[RACEMX-M3]

Enjoying the spotlight aren't we. :) I love the ASR Exhaust on the M5/M6, the V10 sounds just like a lambo gallardo with it, it's simply amazing. Check it out on youtube. Type in ASR M6 or ASR M5. I believe Evan aka AMGETR had a Stage 3 M5 done by ASR.

I won't lie it's nice to own a car this fast, although the spotlight is really shining on HPF - I just stood on throttle. :) The M5 with aftermarket exhaust is pure sex, fo sho. I recently sold my M5 and definitely miss it, and yes AMG ETR gave up his ASR M5 in favor of his new HPF M3.

[HPFMTRE]

:drool: wow nice scott..love the videos!

[leletyM3]

Nice!!!

[LABMW13]

:bow: I love it!

[cyruzz///E46]

I thought there were designed to not go past 155mph?? And, correct if Im wrong, but I think there isn't even a law rather they just make them that way from the factory.

Oh yea, around what speed did you all start at??

that's correct, but they're offering a performance package where the speedlimiter hits at 280km/h = 170mph. not sure if its available in the US.

[DLSJ5]

Flat out impressive Scott, well done!

[RACEMX-M3]

Flat out impressive Scott, well done!

Drew,

Thanks bro, we go back a ways and always appreciate your feedback. Definitely look forward to the progress of your E92 M3. :)

Scott

[DLSJ5]

Drew,

Thanks bro, we go back a ways and always appreciate your feedback. Definitely look forward to the progress of your E92 M3. :)

Scott

Thanks Brotha, right back at you, there is no doubt you and HPF have taken the E46 to new heights, awesome work!!!

[2005M3Driver]

What a way to represent Texas...
:thumbsup:

[mikechungs330]

wow 170 is fast. On my bike, a 2006 gixxer 600, i went 167 and iam pretty sure i was at the top of 5th gear, about to shift into 6th. Honestly at 167mph my eyes were concentrating somewhere else lol, so i want 100% sure. Anyway, the speedo on bikes are off from stock, i have read online anywhere from 10% to 4%. I have 5% because i went past one of those radar trailer things that cop leave on the side of the road for drivers to see their speed. I think you could def beat me at top end. From a 60 roll, i would be in first gear, i def have u, but what i think by 140ish, i think u would start passing me real fast. After that you would start pulling about 1-1.5 car lengths. Now if you raced a 1000cc, you wouldnt be close lol. Car sounds great!!!

[RACEMX-M3]

wow 170 is fast. On my bike, a 2006 gixxer 600, i went 167 and iam pretty sure i was at the top of 5th gear, about to shift into 6th. Honestly at 167mph my eyes were concentrating somewhere else lol, so i want 100% sure. Anyway, the speedo on bikes are off from stock, i have read online anywhere from 10% to 4%. I have 5% because i went past one of those radar trailer things that cop leave on the side of the road for drivers to see their speed. I think you could def beat me at top end. From a 60 roll, i would be in first gear, i def have u, but what i think by 140ish, i think u would start passing me real fast. After that you would start pulling about 1-1.5 car lengths. Now if you raced a 1000cc, you wouldnt be close lol. Car sounds great!!!

So far I've raced about 10 bikes, and I used to own a ZX636 so I know how fast they are. No 600 has even come close to beating me, I beat a Gixxer 750 in socal with Chris + another passenger, liter bikes pull me a little but that was before I got the new Race Fuel map. My guess is now any 1000cc bike that's stock will lose. :)

[HPF Chris]

wow 170 is fast. On my bike, a 2006 gixxer 600, i went 167 and iam pretty sure i was at the top of 5th gear, about to shift into 6th. Honestly at 167mph my eyes were concentrating somewhere else lol, so i want 100% sure. Anyway, the speedo on bikes are off from stock, i have read online anywhere from 10% to 4%. I have 5% because i went past one of those radar trailer things that cop leave on the side of the road for drivers to see their speed. I think you could def beat me at top end. From a 60 roll, i would be in first gear, i def have u, but what i think by 140ish, i think u would start passing me real fast. After that you would start pulling about 1-1.5 car lengths. Now if you raced a 1000cc, you wouldnt be close lol. Car sounds great!!!

A Brand new Yahama R1 does 60-130mph in 5.9 seconds as tested in the magazines. Scott did it in 5.86 seconds (a tad faster). :)

Chris.

[Custom3]

i would be careful having all these videos posted online...big brother is watching :eek:

for real though man just be careful and make sure your plates are blurred and your tracks aren't traceable. :thumbup:

[M3PowerPlay]

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa*!

[SPDu4ea]

A Brand new Yahama R1 does 60-130mph in 5.9 seconds as tested in the magazines. Scott did it in 5.86 seconds (a tad faster). :)

Chris.

You're both right. The bike will certainly be faster from 60-100 (while Scott will be faster from 100-130). But the bike will have made more ground from 60-100 than Scott can make up from 100-130. So if you were on a highway roll and stopped at 130 -- the bike would be slightly ahead (even though Scott reached 130mph first)

[RACEMX-M3]

You're both right. The bike will certainly be faster from 60-100 (while Scott will be faster from 100-130). But the bike will have made more ground from 60-100 than Scott can make up from 100-130. So if you were on a highway roll and stopped at 130 -- the bike would be slightly ahead (even though Scott reached 130mph first)

Well there's one good way to find out what the results will be. :4ngie:

[OCswedishM3]

wow 170 is fast. On my bike, a 2006 gixxer 600, i went 167 and iam pretty sure i was at the top of 5th gear, about to shift into 6th. Honestly at 167mph my eyes were concentrating somewhere else lol, so i want 100% sure. Anyway, the speedo on bikes are off from stock, i have read online anywhere from 10% to 4%. I have 5% because i went past one of those radar trailer things that cop leave on the side of the road for drivers to see their speed. I think you could def beat me at top end. From a 60 roll, i would be in first gear, i def have u, but what i think by 140ish, i think u would start passing me real fast. After that you would start pulling about 1-1.5 car lengths. Now if you raced a 1000cc, you wouldnt be close lol. Car sounds great!!!

A stock 600 wont even come close to a HPF 2.5. I beat a gixxer 600 before and i am about ~175whp shy of Scott.

[IFX]

Nice videos, I love replaying several parts in the video where the M pulls away.

Just pure sex... :)

[pinoybmr3]

nice video, wowwww...

[mikechungs330]

So far I've raced about 10 bikes, and I used to own a ZX636 so I know how fast they are. No 600 has even come close to beating me, I beat a Gixxer 750 in socal with Chris + another passenger, liter bikes pull me a little but that was before I got the new Race Fuel map. My guess is now any 1000cc bike that's stock will lose. :)

The problem with bikes, especially a 600cc is that the wind force at higher speed is incredible. If a person never has been on a bike, but has been at 150+mph in a car doesnt understand the amount of force that the wind is pushing on the car. Mainly due to the fact that cars are so will built(especially M3's), u never really feel anything inside, so people have no idea how much force is going against the bike or car. After 130ish on the bike you have to get low, because if u dont you will fly off especially after 150+, no one can hold on, its impossible(i know u had a bike, iam just saying this for those who havent). I dont think you can beat a stock 1000cc. The only time i think(just my honest opinion, i could be wrong) u can beat it is if it was say a 60-180/190mph race. The bike would have such a far lead it would be tough to catch up, although you can catch up, its going to take a while. Cars will always have a higher top speed then bikes.


A Brand new Yahama R1 does 60-130mph in 5.9 seconds as tested in the magazines. Scott did it in 5.86 seconds (a tad faster). :)

Chris.

Not trying to be a d!ck at all, just wondering what magazine? I would honestly think a R1, which are insanely quick, would do it much quicker. For a bike its only 2shifts.

You're both right. The bike will certainly be faster from 60-100 (while Scott will be faster from 100-130). But the bike will have made more ground from 60-100 than Scott can make up from 100-130. So if you were on a highway roll and stopped at 130 -- the bike would be slightly ahead (even though Scott reached 130mph first)

I agree with this, but i still think the bike would be faster from 100-130, but not by much. My bikes gears go like this, 1st 78mph,2nd 109mph, 3rd 129mph. And its a 600. A 1000 cc, depending on its gear, might be a little more for each gear, and it would get there faster.

Well there's one good way to find out what the results will be. :4ngie:

Yea there is lol, just be careful with cops and all. Now if u beat a 1000cc, next u gotta race against a stock hayabusa, whos top speed is only 204mph, STOCK!!! lol.

A stock 600 wont even come close to a HPF 2.5. I beat a gixxer 600 before and i am about ~175whp shy of Scott.

My gixxer 600 can do a 1/4 at average 11-11.2, with a good driver at the handles. My friends stock honda 600 is much faster then mine. When we race he pulls 1.5-2 bike lenghts on me. On average 2 bike lenghts is about one car length.

If it was from a dig, the hpf m3 wouldnt have a chance against a 1000cc, until it gets to very serious mph. A stock 1000cc does the 1/4 on average 10.2-10.4. As we all know its mainly depends on the driver.

Can we all agree on this lol:lmao:


Edit: O yea btw this past sunday i raced a 2004 gixxer 1000, and some one of a kind chopper. The race reinforced my thinking of how hard it is to beat a 1000cc. The gixxer and the chopper went first, within my first gear the chopper was behind lol( even with all the noise it made lol). Idk if the gixxer 1000 was stock or not, but i got my ass handed to me. He kept pulling on me while doing a wheelie of what must have been all of first and second. When i stopped i had just shifted into 4th gear going 135mph, and the gixxer 1000 was about 5-6 car lenghts ahead of me. Seeing him pull that hard felt weird, i never lost a race on the bike, but there is no way in hell i had a chance at all of catching up to the guy.

[RACEMX-M3]

My car isn't setup for 1/4 mile tracks right now, I need to get smaller rear wheels and drag radials. Whenever I do test runs I usually start around 60 and go up to 160. I have friends with bikes, I'll post some vids in a few days vs 600 and 1000 cc bikes. :)

[mikechungs330]

My car isn't setup for 1/4 mile tracks right now, I need to get smaller rear wheels and drag radials. Whenever I do test runs I usually start around 60 and go up to 160. I have friends with bikes, I'll post some vids in a few days vs 600 and 1000 cc bikes. :)

Sounds good. Not doubting you, i guess i think its harder to beat a 1000cc then u, but then again i dont have a HPF M3 LOL(if ur ever down in miami, u have to give me a ride in it). It relies a lot on driver. I know a lot of ppl with bikes who have no idea what they are doing, a lot of riders are like that nowadays, they have no idea. Not saying ur friends are, but i have seen tons of bad motorcycle drivers, and for some reason youtube is loaded with them :lmao:

[HPF Chris]

I dont think you can beat a stock 1000cc. The only time i think(just my honest opinion, i could be wrong) u can beat it is if it was say a 60-180/190mph race. The bike would have such a far lead it would be tough to catch up, although you can catch up, its going to take a while. Cars will always have a higher top speed then bikes.

Not trying to be a d!ck at all, just wondering what magazine? I would honestly think a R1, which are insanely quick, would do it much quicker. For a bike its only 2shifts.


Just get a VBox, and tuck it in your bike. Then you'll understand what a 5.86 is.

We put VBox's in many ofthe motorcyles we race. It's hard to tuck it in on some but we're always able to find a way to strap the Vbox on. Dragen's R1 did slightly faster at a 5.7, but his R1 is modded and he might as well be a pro rider. I also have a VBox run of him doing a 5.9 and from what I've read that is the standard time for a 60-130mph with a professional rider.

Here's Dragen's 5.7 compared to a 636 and Scott's M3. Staying with a modified liter bike with a pro-rider from a 60 roll in a car with 19" wheels and street tires is amazing.

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/scottw/ScottvsR1vs636.jpg

Take care,
Chris.

[whoa_itswee]

These are crazy insane speeds, but impressive. Be safe out there.

[pastE36prsntE46]

And that is only a 2.5 with 19s and no HPF SBBC/TC SETUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Amazing driving and controlling of the power Scott, can't wait for your videos against some bikes.

[RACEMX-M3]

I know it's hard to believe these cars are so fast, I think you just have to get a ride in one to fully appreciate just how violent the power is. I have lots of friends with bikes, vids will be up asap. :)

[djnekkon]

Wow

[SPDu4ea]

Here's Dragen's 5.7 compared to a 636 and Scott's M3. Staying with a modified liter bike with a pro-rider from a 60 roll in a car with 19" wheels and street tires is amazing.

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/scottw/ScottvsR1vs636.jpg

Take care,
Chris.

Very cool graph Chris. Is there any way you could compare just the 60-130 runs of the R1 and Scott, but have the X-axis distance traveled rather than time?

[HPF Chris]

Very cool graph Chris. Is there any way you could compare just the 60-130 runs of the R1 and Scott, but have the X-axis distance traveled rather than time?

I know what you're thinking but it's not going to make a difference. The only way it would make a difference is if the acceleration of the bike and the car varied significantly at the beginning of the pull and went the other way at the end of the pull and it doesn't. With VBox runs, all you need to do is look at the angle of the curves, and the bike and car nearly match. Remember Dragen's bike is not stock. Put Scott against a stock R1 and he'll barely beat it 60-130mph, significantly beat it 60-160mph and anhiliate it 60-190mph.

I have Dragen's R1 VBox runs to 160mph. If Scott will do a pull to 160mph and VBox it, then we can see how far ahead Scott is by 160mph. He probably won't be too far ahead but he will certainly be ahead. My guess is 1 car length.

Chris.

[BadBoostedBmwM3]

My understanding is that it comes from US liability laws and Z-rated tires (150 "+" mph)

I was always wondering... Thanks

[BadBoostedBmwM3]

I know it's hard to believe these cars are so fast, I think you just have to get a ride in one to fully appreciate just how violent the power is. I have lots of friends with bikes, vids will be up asap. :)

Now, this is what I wanted to hear!!:4ngie:

And, i read all these v-box runs and see videos of the speedos and flying past cars. But, I know I don't know how fast you all really going.

[azjimi]

Put Scott against a stock R1 and he'll barely beat it 60-130mph, significantly beat it 60-160mph and anhiliate it 60-190mph.
Chris.

Granted, but look at the opposite side of the coin. Anybody w/$5000 can buy a used R1 and annihilate any HPF car in any standing start race, beat it in any race to 130 starting @ say 50mph or less, beat it badly in any race starting @ lower speeds etc. etc. So which is faster? Depends on the race doesn't it? For my money on the street I don't want to have to go even 130, let alone 190 mph to beat anybody. So for practical purposes (excluding budgetary concerns) which is faster?

[RACEMX-M3]

Granted, but look at the opposite side of the coin. Anybody w/$5000 can buy a used R1 and annihilate any HPF car in any standing start race, beat it in any race to 130 starting @ say 50mph or less, beat it badly in any race starting @ lower speeds etc. etc. So which is faster? Depends on the race doesn't it? For my money on the street I don't want to have to go even 130, let alone 190 mph to beat anybody. So for practical purposes (excluding budgetary concerns) which is faster?

With 17's and d/r's I think it's yet to be determined how fast the HPF cars are from a dig. As far as I know no one has done it. Honestly my car is so f'cking fast now I don't need or want any more power. You may think a stock R1 will beat my car from 50 to 130.. we'll soon find out as I already have one lined up for a race. I think many will be surprised at how well HPF does vs the CR's. :)

[SPDu4ea]

Honestly my car is so f'cking fast now I don't need or want any more power.

quoted for the chuckle I'll get in 2 years when you're stage 4 :bow:

[HPF Chris]

Granted, but look at the opposite side of the coin. Anybody w/$5000 can buy a used R1 and annihilate any HPF car in any standing start race, beat it in any race to 130 starting @ say 50mph or less, beat it badly in any race starting @ lower speeds etc. etc. So which is faster? Depends on the race doesn't it? For my money on the street I don't want to have to go even 130, let alone 190 mph to beat anybody. So for practical purposes (excluding budgetary concerns) which is faster?

I think you're missing the point. Scott drives his car every day and people are saying it can't beat a bike. Imagine a daily driver that can and that's what he has. In fact if he doesn't step on it, people have no clue that anything has been done to the car. Pretty cool IMO.

[pastE36prsntE46]

Granted, but look at the opposite side of the coin. Anybody w/$5000 can buy a used R1 and annihilate any HPF car in any standing start race, beat it in any race to 130 starting @ say 50mph or less, beat it badly in any race starting @ lower speeds etc. etc. So which is faster? Depends on the race doesn't it? For my money on the street I don't want to have to go even 130, let alone 190 mph to beat anybody. So for practical purposes (excluding budgetary concerns) which is faster?

Again why would you compare a bike to a car anyways? I never understood why people put them in the same category. Are you going to fit 5 people on the bike? Will you drive it in a terrible down-pour? Would you drive it in snow? Can you fill the back end of it with groceries? Just my 2 cents

[RACEMX-M3]

Again why would you compare a bike to a car anyways? I never understood why people put them in the same category. Are you going to fit 5 people on the bike? Will you drive it in a terrible down-pour? Would you drive it in snow? Can you fill the back end of it with groceries? Just my 2 cents

I think it's just the fact that everyone knows how fast bikes are, and if you have a car that can even hang with a bike it's a jaw dropper.

[mikechungs330]

Just get a VBox, and tuck it in your bike. Then you'll understand what a 5.86 is.

We put VBox's in many ofthe motorcyles we race. It's hard to tuck it in on some but we're always able to find a way to strap the Vbox on. Dragen's R1 did slightly faster at a 5.7, but his R1 is modded and he might as well be a pro rider. I also have a VBox run of him doing a 5.9 and from what I've read that is the standard time for a 60-130mph with a professional rider.

Here's Dragen's 5.7 compared to a 636 and Scott's M3. Staying with a modified liter bike with a pro-rider from a 60 roll in a car with 19" wheels and street tires is amazing.




Take care,
Chris.

Honestly i have no idea what a 5.86 would feel like, because on my bike i never measured it. But if a M3 is competing with an R1 in 60-130 times, and i am no where close to one. That puts things into perspective.

I know it's hard to believe these cars are so fast, I think you just have to get a ride in one to fully appreciate just how violent the power is. I have lots of friends with bikes, vids will be up asap. :)

Like i said i have never been in a HPF M3, fastest thing i have been in was a 2006 OR 2007 Z06. That was pretty fast.

With 17's and d/r's I think it's yet to be determined how fast the HPF cars are from a dig. As far as I know no one has done it. Honestly my car is so f'cking fast now I don't need or want any more power. You may think a stock R1 will beat my car from 50 to 130.. we'll soon find out as I already have one lined up for a race. I think many will be surprised at how well HPF does vs the CR's. :)

LoL if you do beat a R1, and a few years down the road u get say a stage 3 or 4, hayabusa's are next lol. People get use to the speed, my 600 doesnt feel as fast as before, i got use to the acceleration and speed. I can see why ppl move to litre bikes.

I think it's just the fact that everyone knows how fast bikes are, and if you have a car that can even hang with a bike it's a jaw dropper.

Yea. From a biker point of view, if you even near a bike your car is fast, but beating a bike is down right amazing. Like i said if your ever in miami, ur giving me a ride in that thing lol.:woot:

Edit: BTW this is a pretty cool discussion

[pastE36prsntE46]

Hey Mike, I will be in the Tampa area in April with my STG 3, so I have been thinking of taking a trip down to Miami for a day or two to meet some fellow BMW owners down there. Will post a thread when the time gets near.

[S54PWR]

I think it's just the fact that everyone knows how fast bikes are, and if you have a car that can even hang with a bike it's a jaw dropper.

You're running the stock final drive/rear end right Scott? I personally think the Stock E46 M3 final drive is absolutely sick, it reminds me of BMW's version of the Supra. It's a highway beast. :D

[RACEMX-M3]

You're running the stock final drive/rear end right Scott? I personally think the Stock E46 M3 final drive is absolutely sick, it reminds me of BMW's version of the Supra. It's a highway beast. :D

Yes I'm stock.

[azjimi]

With 17's and d/r's I think it's yet to be determined how fast the HPF cars are from a dig. As far as I know no one has done it. Honestly my car is so f'cking fast now I don't need or want any more power. You may think a stock R1 will beat my car from 50 to 130.. we'll soon find out as I already have one lined up for a race. I think many will be surprised at how well HPF does vs the CR's. :)

My standing start assumptions are based on the fact that so far no HPF car has gone below 11.0 in the 1/4 and liter bike times in the high 9's have been published by numerous magazines for some years now. I wouldn't say it's impossible, but that's quite a gap to close.

As far as 50 to 130, I agree that is pure supposition on my part. Really my point should have been that the lower the starting speed, the more advantage the bike has.

Don't get me wrong, I have an F/I M3 now, not a liter bike, so I'm actually rooting for the car. Just trying to keep the "bike beater" talk real. And personally I think you have a very realistic attitude about it. But some who don't know squat about bikes do not.

[trip3's]

Just to give you guys a sense of perspective a Ferrari Enzo does 60-130 in 7 seconds. Racemx can do that on PUMP gas:bow: I got a ride in a Twin turbo Gallardo pushing 725rwhp(he was on pump, 908 is on race gas) and I can tell you that you feel like you're in a video game! Here's a video of it along with me giggling like an idiot:lmao:

http://www.speedandmotion.com/pages/TTSpider/index.html

[azjimi]

I think you're missing the point. Scott drives his car every day and people are saying it can't beat a bike. Imagine a daily driver that can and that's what he has. In fact if he doesn't step on it, people have no clue that anything has been done to the car. Pretty cool IMO.

Actually I admire the hell out of what you've accomplished. It's totally cool. HPF rules! However I also think you missed my point, which is that so far the circumstances under which the car beats the bike are limited to fairly high starting speeds & ridiculously high ending speeds. Also there is a HUGE diff between a 600 and a 1000cc bike as anyone who has owned both knows. Even beating a 600 is quite an accomplishment for a car, but @ about 1 sec. faster in the 1/4, liter bikes are in another league.

In any case, I love this stuff & anxiously await the exploits of all the "bike beater" boys out there. Good luck to all of them. Just don't race from a standing
start for money, lol!

[mikechungs330]

Actually I admire the hell out of what you've accomplished. It's totally cool. HPF rules! However I also think you missed my point, which is that so far the circumstances under which the car beats the bike are limited to fairly high starting speeds & ridiculously high ending speeds. Also there is a HUGE diff between a 600 and a 1000cc bike as anyone who has owned both knows. Even beating a 600 is quite an accomplishment for a car, but @ about 1 sec. faster in the 1/4, liter bikes are in another league.

In any case, I love this stuff & anxiously await the exploits of all the "bike beater" boys out there. Good luck to all of them. Just don't race from a standing
start for money, lol!


I thought the same. Although everything else would be in the car's favor, high starting speeds, high ending speeds, race gas+methanol, stock 1000cc. I also believe the 1000cc are in another league. I drove a 2008 honda cbr1000rr, i didnt get to drive it fast, i only got to go 100mph, and i didnt floor it, but you could easily tell the amount of HP and torque they have, its not even fair:lmao:.

If a HPF M3 stage 2.5 can beat one, more power to you guys, iam not trying to on any sides, i love M3's and bikes, i just want to see a good race lol. But i just have more trouble seeing the car beat the bike, then again i have never been in a 700+hp car before, so i cant talk from experience. Now a stage 3 or 4 HPF M3 beating a 1000cc with just race gas would be pretty awesome to see.


pastE36prsntE46: If you do decide to come to miami, please let me know lol. You can check out the Regional forums to see whats going down as far as meet wise, there is always a meet on thursday nights in miami. And iam sure we can throw a bigger meet in april to get all the guys from broward and miami to a single spot. But yea i would love to see your car:woot::woot:.

[HPF Chris]

Just trying to keep the "bike beater" talk real. And personally I think you have a very realistic attitude about it. But some who don't know squat about bikes do not.

I agree there's a MASSIVE difference between a 600cc bike and a 1000cc bike, and there's also a significant difference racing one from a dig vs from a roll. These races start out as power vs weight (bike ahead) and end up power vs coefficient of drag (car ahead). We have a VBox comparing an HPF Stage 2.5 M3 to an R1 bike, we have vids of HPF M3's against bikes, and most of us HPF M3 owners have beat plenty of bikes.

The real reason for the bike comparison is because there aren't any cars willing to race us anymore. When you're beating modified Ford GT's and people find out, good luck finding anyone else to race you. :)

Chris.

[azjimi]

These races start out as power vs weight (bike ahead) and end up power vs coefficient of drag (car ahead).
Chris.

Great scientific explanation! Love the simplicity of it.

[pastE36prsntE46]

Okay now that everyone is clear on the bike vs HPF M3, lets see some videos!

[BadBoostedBmwM3]

Okay now that everyone is clear on the bike vs HPF M3, lets see some videos!

Rich, if you come up here... My buddy has a slightly modded 2006 GSXR 1000:pimpin: that you could race. Its trapping 119mph in the 1/8 on pump gas with his 130lbs rider, BUT with him on it. It traps 115-116mph.

I must say its real fast, but it would be a nice match and great time for videos!!:4ngie:

[Cruzer03]

Okay now that everyone is clear on the bike vs HPF M3, lets see some videos!

Interesting...

[///M3Turk]

:bow: