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BMW_Stu
01-30-2009, 03:05 AM
I have 2 questions, how much power could i get from cams and F/I, and my second question is how much $$ will it cost from start to finish to get my car past 330 hp boosted. i have money and im looking to do this by the fall, i know how much a kit costs but i cant just throw it under the hood and start driving, it hat to be properly installed and tuned. idk if i can handle that diy. im looking to hear from the sponsors and anyone else who has done it.

BMWfanfromQuebec
01-30-2009, 03:06 AM
Active Autowerke E46 330i 328i Supercharger Kits


Specifically designed to run with 91-93 octane pump fuel and your stock engine management system, this system uses our dyno-tuned software adjustments to manage ignition, fuel, vanos, rev limits, speed governors, etc all programmed into the same onboard computer your 328i or 330i was born with. So the performance mutation from normal to extra-assertive is smooth and dependable, and totally reversible to stock. Even Active Autowerke's oil cooling upgrade is self contained and non-intrusive of the factory oil system.

Bottom line: you get to experience near-M3 performance in a 328i or 330i at an incredibly affordable price. Without sacrificing drivability, comfort, integrity or amenities. That s an evolution worth pursuing.

* Key Features Rotrex C38-71 trim supercharger
* 8 psi boost level
* CNC machined supercharger bracket with hardware
* Self-contained oil system with front-mount oil cooler
* 6 higher flowing fuel Injectors
* Active Autowerke/Bosch bypass valve
* High temperature silicone hoses with stainless clamps
* All mandrel bent tubing for improved flow
* K&N air filter
* Active Autowerke Dyno-Tuned Software
* All mounting hardware, plumbing, hoses and clamps
* Illustrated instruction manual & installation guide
* 2 Year Warranty with free tech support

4400$

Also you need headers preferably ebay...
car does not need to be tuned..it all comes in the kit

Gives you 310HP
add drive pulleys around extra 5 hp= 315
add a much needed headers extra 9-12 325hp
Maby add a chip and you will be up to 340hp~

no need for cams bro not much hp gain and a lot of mula$$

xJustin
01-30-2009, 03:10 AM
get an m3..
thats not what a asked. Jesus.

can't you just go to HPF website to find out this info?

BMWfanfromQuebec
01-30-2009, 03:11 AM
thats not what a asked. Jesus.

can't you just go to HPF website to find out this info?

okay...

BMWfanfromQuebec
01-30-2009, 03:13 AM
Active Autowerke E46 330i 328i Supercharger Kits


Specifically designed to run with 91-93 octane pump fuel and your stock engine management system, this system uses our dyno-tuned software adjustments to manage ignition, fuel, vanos, rev limits, speed governors, etc all programmed into the same onboard computer your 328i or 330i was born with. So the performance mutation from normal to extra-assertive is smooth and dependable, and totally reversible to stock. Even Active Autowerke's oil cooling upgrade is self contained and non-intrusive of the factory oil system.

Bottom line: you get to experience near-M3 performance in a 328i or 330i at an incredibly affordable price. Without sacrificing drivability, comfort, integrity or amenities. That s an evolution worth pursuing.

* Key Features Rotrex C38-71 trim supercharger
* 8 psi boost level
* CNC machined supercharger bracket with hardware
* Self-contained oil system with front-mount oil cooler
* 6 higher flowing fuel Injectors
* Active Autowerke/Bosch bypass valve
* High temperature silicone hoses with stainless clamps
* All mandrel bent tubing for improved flow
* K&N air filter
* Active Autowerke Dyno-Tuned Software
* All mounting hardware, plumbing, hoses and clamps
* Illustrated instruction manual & installation guide
* 2 Year Warranty with free tech support

4400$

Also you need headers preferably ebay...
car does not need to be tuned..it all comes in the kit

Gives you 310HP
add drive pulleys around extra 5 hp= 315
add a much needed headers extra 9-12 325hp
Maby add a chip and you will be up to 340hp~

no need for cams bro not much hp gain and a lot of mula$$

aaronu
01-30-2009, 03:51 AM
idk if i can handle that diy. im looking to hear from the sponsors and anyone else who has done it.


I ain't done it but I've been talking myself out of F/I for a couple years now. Someday I won't be able to talk myself out of it. :)

Find a reputable indy BMW shop close to you. They'll have a particular kit they're familiar with. They can quote you based on install time and their shop rate. A while back I got quoted $1200 to slap in a stage 2 kit (intercooled, 8 psi).

So you said you have money to burn. Lately the twinscrew stuff is really hot. ESS has them now and I think AA has one in the works. Twinscrew design gives more grunt across the RPM range while centrifugals add boost at higher RPM's. For all out performance from a supercharger, get the TS. If you want tried and true, and like the idea of a Jekyll & Hyde transformation when you hit over 4000 RPM, get one of the good centrifugal ones from AA, VF, etc.

That's my .02 anyhow.

Cheers and good luck. Let us know what you decide to do and how it turns out.

BMW_Stu
01-30-2009, 04:55 AM
Cool, so the whole install is only $1200.00?

BMWfanfromQuebec
01-30-2009, 04:59 AM
Cool, so the whole install is only $1200.00?

try and find the cheapest place, but u should look in the diy area maby get a friend to help out, worth the 1200:dunno:

CWABimmer
01-30-2009, 05:03 AM
Active Autowerke E46 330i 328i Supercharger Kits


Specifically designed to run with 91-93 octane pump fuel and your stock engine management system, this system uses our dyno-tuned software adjustments to manage ignition, fuel, vanos, rev limits, speed governors, etc all programmed into the same onboard computer your 328i or 330i was born with. So the performance mutation from normal to extra-assertive is smooth and dependable, and totally reversible to stock. Even Active Autowerke's oil cooling upgrade is self contained and non-intrusive of the factory oil system.

Bottom line: you get to experience near-M3 performance in a 328i or 330i at an incredibly affordable price. Without sacrificing drivability, comfort, integrity or amenities. That s an evolution worth pursuing.

* Key Features Rotrex C38-71 trim supercharger
* 8 psi boost level
* CNC machined supercharger bracket with hardware
* Self-contained oil system with front-mount oil cooler
* 6 higher flowing fuel Injectors
* Active Autowerke/Bosch bypass valve
* High temperature silicone hoses with stainless clamps
* All mandrel bent tubing for improved flow
* K&N air filter
* Active Autowerke Dyno-Tuned Software
* All mounting hardware, plumbing, hoses and clamps
* Illustrated instruction manual & installation guide
* 2 Year Warranty with free tech support

4400$

Also you need headers preferably ebay...
car does not need to be tuned..it all comes in the kit

Gives you 310HP
add drive pulleys around extra 5 hp= 315
add a much needed headers extra 9-12 325hp
Maby add a chip and you will be up to 340hp~

no need for cams bro not much hp gain and a lot of mula$$

Another, uninformed reply. Obviously the software has already been altered to provide maximum output for the S/C and exhaust system. Read a little more before you post telling people what to do.

To the OP, there are more knowledgeable members than I, so I will let them answer your question. Consider this a free :bump: and a notice that the above poster doesn't own an e46, nor has he done any work close to a S/C; he is, however, extremely good at replacing the bulbs in turn signal housings if you need any advice on that.

BMWfanfromQuebec
01-30-2009, 05:10 AM
Another, uninformed reply. Obviously the software has already been altered to provide maximum output for the S/C and exhaust system. Read a little more before you post telling people what to do.

To the OP, there are more knowledgeable members than I, so I will let them answer your question. Consider this a free :bump: and a notice that the above poster doesn't drive.

First off, driving a car has nothing to do about knowing cars, and you could have just corrected me :blah: Loser.

CWABimmer
01-30-2009, 05:15 AM
First off, driving a car has nothing to do about knowing cars, and you could have just corrected me :blah: Loser.

You are 100% correct. I edited my post to better express what I was thinking.

BMWfanfromQuebec
01-30-2009, 05:16 AM
You are 100% correct. I edited my post to better express what I was thinking.

thnx but that still doesnt prove i know about sc :confused:

BMW_Stu
01-30-2009, 05:21 AM
hmm

BMWfanfromQuebec
01-30-2009, 05:22 AM
[QUOTE=CWABimmer;9322624]Another, uninformed reply. Obviously the software has already been altered to provide maximum output for the S/C and exhaust system. Read a little more before you post telling people what to do.

To the OP, there are more knowledgeable members than I, so I will let them answer your question. Consider this a free :bump: and a notice that the above poster doesn't own an e46, nor has he done any work close to a S/C; he is, however, extremely good at replacing the bulbs in turn signal housings if you need any advice on that.
[/:rofl:

never helping you again..

CWABimmer
01-30-2009, 05:23 AM
haha ok /threadjack

I was just trying to be informational, not start a pis*ing match in your thread, OP. Good luck finding your solution. At least your thread has been bumped up!

EDIT: just saw your above post, glad to see you took it with good humor :)

BMW_Stu
01-30-2009, 05:27 AM
[QUOTE=Afrothunderr86;9322642]

never helping you again..

hey dont take it personaly, im just laughing at you guys going back and fourth. im not an ass like a lot of folks on here. im not tryin to hurt any feelings. i just thought it was funny, relax.

HELLAS NC
01-30-2009, 05:34 AM
I recon with a topic like this: If you have to ask, you can't afford it...

BMWfanfromQuebec
01-30-2009, 05:34 AM
[QUOTE=bmwfanofquebec;9322643]

hey dont take it personaly, im just laughing at you guys going back and fourth. im not an ass like a lot of folks on here. im not tryin to hurt any feelings. i just thought it was funny, relax.

Alright :4ngie:

TxZHP04
01-30-2009, 08:07 AM
Lately the twinscrew stuff is really hot.... and I think AA has one in the works.

No, if you read AA's web site you'll notice that their TS has been discontinued and is no longer available.

TxZHP04
01-30-2009, 08:12 AM
I have 2 questions, how much power could i get from cams and F/I, and my second question is how much $$ will it cost from start to finish to get my car past 330 hp boosted. i have money and im looking to do this by the fall, i know how much a kit costs but i cant just throw it under the hood and start driving, it hat to be properly installed and tuned. idk if i can handle that diy. im looking to hear from the sponsors and anyone else who has done it.

IMHO, the best options to meet your goals would be an ESS TS2 or the new Technique Tuning turbo. Either of these kits will exceed your goal without getting into cams. Kit prices you can look up and you're looking at roughly another $1000 to $2000 for installation. Tuning comes with the kits, you simply send the vendor your DME while installing the hardware and they send it back a few days later. I would recommend a fair bit of underhood knowledge and experience before tackling the install DIY.

Activ3
01-30-2009, 12:34 PM
AA C38 stg1 = $4400 = ~300whp
AA C38 stg2 = $7400 = ~330whp

ESS TS1 = $5695 = ~280whp
ESS TS2 = $7595 = ~300whp

TT Turbo Kit = $6900 =~315whp

Now, if you'd like to go with cams as well, I've seen AA lvlII cars hitting ~360whp with them, and I know the TS2+ guys run cams, but now sure how much they've been dyno'ing.

We're installing a TT kit right now on a car, and it will have the cams installed within the next couple weeks, so we'll hopefully have a dyno number for that asap.

kpeng
01-30-2009, 12:55 PM
Why is the 14 year old giving out advice he just copied and pasted?

BadBoostedBmwM3
01-30-2009, 01:47 PM
When did the price go to $4400.

BadBoostedBmwM3
01-30-2009, 01:47 PM
Why is the 14 year old giving out advice he just copied and pasted?

Very good question...

BadBoostedBmwM3
01-30-2009, 01:48 PM
AA C38 stg1 = $4400 = ~300whp
AA C38 stg2 = $7400 = ~330whp

ESS TS1 = $5695 = ~280whp
ESS TS2 = $7595 = ~300whp

TT Turbo Kit = $6900 =~315whp

Now, if you'd like to go with cams as well, I've seen AA lvlII cars hitting ~360whp with them, and I know the TS2+ guys run cams, but now sure how much they've been dyno'ing.

We're installing a TT kit right now on a car, and it will have the cams installed within the next couple weeks, so we'll hopefully have a dyno number for that
asap.

I didn't think ppl were getting numbers like that from AA centri setup... Those are decent numbers... is that right out the box numbers too??


OOPS, sorry... Im used to the other forums "auto-merging" posts!!

328Ci2000
01-30-2009, 02:26 PM
Over 1200 posts from the "kid from Quebec" since October 2008?

On topic:
http://activeautowerke.com/supercharger-systems.aspx?menu=2&submenu=6

The twin screw isn't available now.
The 330 page was messed up when I posted this. It shows a Level 1 and 2 with dyno charts of 307 and 339 hp respectively. Price says $4400.
It's nice to see a car mag review one of their systems too...
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/german_performance/active_autowerke_supercharged_bmw_330ia_specialty_file/(page)/1

BMW_Stu
01-30-2009, 04:48 PM
I recon with a topic like this: If you have to ask, you can't afford it... I recon that it's lust smarter to know how much something costs b4 I buy it :hmm: so I guess u go around spending 5 or 6 grand without blinking... Hmm