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Jeffxxx
06-28-2009, 02:37 PM
As most of you know I haven't been happy with the power output of my car, well now that has changed..

T-Trim + snow performance methanol..

This is on 105 octane and without cats..

http://i494.photobucket.com/albums/rr309/lsbm3/ttrimdynofull-1.jpg
AirFrcd
06-28-2009, 02:49 PM
Looks good Jeff. Congrats!
HPF will be your next stop. LOL...
BimmerDude18
06-28-2009, 03:30 PM
Looks good, but more lean that I'd be comfortable with getting up above 7,000 RPM's. Be very careful with 13+:1 AFR's.
ST06M3
06-28-2009, 04:15 PM
Congrads Man! Glad the VF Kit is finally to your liking.
Evil Twin Rob
06-28-2009, 04:44 PM
Very nice! Bet that feels like a new whole car.:thumbsup:
bluejeansonfire
06-28-2009, 05:22 PM
i hope that's not a 100% meth. If it is, I'd like to see a dyno with AFRs with pump, no meth. 12.8 is the highest goal as far as full throttle afr, as far as i know, for ideal safety and knock/detonation resistance, go lower. This probably provides the most power, but it seems really lean, I mean, leaning out towards redline is not traditionally the plan, but again this makes power. Maybe the cooling of the meth and the octane of the race fuel allow you to do that safely. I wonder how much adjustment is in there vs no meth, pump gas.


nice job, congrats on FI
Jeffxxx
06-28-2009, 06:08 PM
It's 49/51. I will not run the car without meth with this set up. There has been zero tuning for this, I don't know if I'm going to get a custom tune or go with a stage 3 build.
DLSJ5
06-28-2009, 07:19 PM
It's 49/51. I will not run the car without meth with this set up. There has been zero tuning for this, I don't know if I'm going to get a custom tune or go with a stage 3 build.

AFR should be 11.7 - 12.3 no higher, at least that is what I saw with my car, there is zero difference in the tune and hardware between us. Although when I was experimenting with my car, usually anything over 13:1 and the ECU would hit limp mode to protect the motor. That sniffer could be off, what is your AFR gauge saying at redline? You should also reset your adaptations.

What boost level did you set the start and full WM injection at?
Jeffxxx
06-28-2009, 08:27 PM
AFR should be 11.7 - 12.3 no higher, at least that is what I saw with my car, there is zero difference in the tune and hardware between us. Although when I was experimenting with my car, usually anything over 13:1 and the ECU would hit limp mode to protect the motor. That sniffer could be off, what is your AFR gauge saying at redline? You should also reset your adaptations.

What boost level did you set the start and full WM injection at?


Hmmm, I'll look the next time I drive. It's set to start at about 2lbs and full at 6lbs. What should I set it too? It's kind of hard to tell what it's set at on the controller.
MSpired
06-28-2009, 08:49 PM
Congrats! Wow, if you are happy with this kit, that means a LOT! Hahaha
AMG ETR
06-28-2009, 09:43 PM
Nice numbers :) Looks like VF kits can make some great numbers! Really looking forward to your numbers MSpired :) I am waiting for an S/C company to break 600RWHP on pump fuel (no meth or any additives) and I might make the swtich to S/C :D
Evan
///JTM3
06-28-2009, 10:16 PM
There has been zero tuning for this

:shhh: Red Herring Tune..

Nice numbers BTW
DLSJ5
06-28-2009, 10:55 PM
Hmmm, I'll look the next time I drive. It's set to start at about 2lbs and full at 6lbs. What should I set it too? It's kind of hard to tell what it's set at on the controller.

What nozzle sizes are you running? Did you do a check to make sure it is working? Real easy to check, if need be.

I would set the start at 4 and full at 8psi, and I would clear your adaptations.
BimmerDude18
06-28-2009, 11:56 PM
Nice numbers :) Looks like VF kits can make some great numbers! Really looking forward to your numbers MSpired :) I am waiting for an S/C company to break 600RWHP on pump fuel (no meth or any additives) and I might make the swtich to S/C :D
Evan

Pump fuel isn't going to support that without serious low compression. At which point, a SC is almost a failure.
Jeffxxx
06-29-2009, 09:23 AM
What nozzle sizes are you running? Did you do a check to make sure it is working? Real easy to check, if need be.

I would set the start at 4 and full at 8psi, and I would clear your adaptations.

I would assume it's working, Haha. I'm running the dual 175 ml/min nozzles. If the fluid goes down in the reservoir I can assume it's working, is that your method to checking it?
DLSJ5
06-29-2009, 02:22 PM
I would assume it's working, Haha. I'm running the dual 175 ml/min nozzles. If the fluid goes down in the reservoir I can assume it's working, is that your method to checking it?

lol, if the tank is going lower, then yes. :D

175's are the right nozzles.
Matt Q
06-29-2009, 03:09 PM
So lemme get this straight... just by adding the meth /water you've gotten the power up there? no tuning mods? that's pretty impressive.... are you running meth/water or pure?
AMG ETR
06-29-2009, 04:09 PM
Pump fuel isn't going to support that without serious low compression. At which point, a SC is almost a failure.
Oh I know, I was talking built motor :) Waiting to see Mspired's numbers and see when the ESS CFR750 kit is released to potentially make a move :)
Evan
Matt Q
06-29-2009, 04:21 PM
That CFR750 kit has been on their website for ages but only for install in Nordland... wonder when it will be a kit?
MSpired
06-29-2009, 04:28 PM
Pump fuel isn't going to support that without serious low compression. At which point, a SC is almost a failure.

Not too low compression is needed. Around 9.5 is low enough to make close to 600rwhp on pump

So lemme get this straight... just by adding the meth /water you've gotten the power up there? no tuning mods? that's pretty impressive.... are you running meth/water or pure?

No, he also changed out his supercharger to a larger one that pushes more CFR and more boost.
Jeffxxx
06-29-2009, 07:59 PM
So lemme get this straight... just by adding the meth /water you've gotten the power up there? no tuning mods? that's pretty impressive.... are you running meth/water or pure?

Yep, and before the t-trim/methanol I dynoed 450 whp and 308 wtq, so this is a pretty big gain. I'm running a 49/51 mix.
2K5 325i
06-29-2009, 08:03 PM
:shhh: Red Herring Tune..

Nice numbers BTW

Hey dude, this may seem like a weird ass post... but I recognized your sig and realized I made it.

I think that is the most badass sig I have ever made for anyone.

/hijack :rofl:,
-Chris
///JTM3
06-29-2009, 08:20 PM
Hey dude, this may seem like a weird ass post... but I recognized your sig and realized I made it.

I think that is the most badass sig I have ever made for anyone.

/hijack :rofl:,
-Chris

YEah... man its sicks... iv got alot of props for it..

Thanks alot for it!!!!! :hi:
Matt Q
06-30-2009, 03:32 AM
Not too low compression is needed. Around 9.5 is low enough to make close to 600rwhp on pump

No, he also changed out his supercharger to a larger one that pushes more CFR and more boost.

Aaaah! thanks dude... so keen to see what happens on that other charger build thread... would love to upgrade the blower on my AA kit but I recon the HKS isn't a big enough jump for the cost...