Modded E92 DCT M3 vs. HPF E46 M3 @ 6psi

[DLSJ5]

Met up with a group of friends today for some friendly comparo's. Had a chance to run J's HPF M3, this is pump vs. pump, on race fuel, it wouldn't even be remotely close.

J you are awesome Bro, one heck of a cool cat, appreciate the runs, your car is sick! Sid should have his vids up soon of you and him, his car is blazing fast, and I know you guys were very close, looking forward to seeing those.

Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bpaqc48nJ98

[HPF Chris]

Met up with a group of friends today for some friendly comparo's. Had a chance to run J's HPF M3, this is pump vs. pump, on race fuel, it wouldn't even be remotely close.

J you are awesome Bro, one heck of a cool cat, appreciate the runs, your car is sick! Sid should have his vids up soon of you and him, his car is blazing fast, and I know you guys were very close, looking forward to seeing those.

Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bpaqc48nJ98

Nice runs Drew. Your car is definitely fast!! :) Now let's get some methanol in the HPF M3.

Chris.

[DLSJ5]

Nice runs Drew. Your car is definitely fast!! :) Now let's get some methanol in the HPF M3.

Chris.

Thanks Bro! With the Meth on he'd smoked me!

[MSpired]

Wow! Your car is mooooovingggg!

[TrippinBimmer]

:drool: THIS IS WHAT I WANT M3 DCT :drool:

[ballsdeepm3]

good times bro thanks again for invitin me out. always fun. you kill me in pump mode. your dct def launches fast. very sick car cant wait to see with more mods. HPF needs to come up with something for that thing.turbo would be insane. chris hint hint

[iLLM3]

Nice man!!!

[mikem7709]

Nice vid Drew. :str8pimpi

At my first track session with mine Monday (my Worx are off and the OEM CSL`s and Cup`s are on ready) Should have plenty of video running against a friends E60 M5.

[Mote]

There's a lot of fun being had in that video! Awesome run Drew! DCT M3 is an amazing thing.

[Activ3]

Wow Drew your car is moving! Any idea what it's trapping?

[djnekkon]

wow!

[benjamin1]

your car is insane

[finger123]

wow..im amazed! your car is fast drew! for you to be able to pull on a HPF m3 on pump like that.. definate props to you and your ride.

[AMG ETR]

Nice drew!! Ran my buddies Evo X 2 days ago on pump also (6psi) and with only a tune, intake, and full exhaust we was able to pull me 1 car and hold it till around 100 when I started reeling him in! So I can tell exactly how fast your car is and man am I impressed with a bolt on M3! I have run an E92 6speed manual on pump (6psi) and was able to pull him with ease! DCT+Bolt ons = FTW!
Evan
PS- Tracking the beast tomorrow (road course), vids to come since I know you always ask me!

[funkboy316]

I still dont know what it proves to run your car all out against a car that isnt running all out? I mean that DCT is hauling butt, but only being able to keep up because someone else crippled their car for you...i dunno....maybe its just me and im sure I'll get called a jerk for voicing my opinion but oh well.

not trying to take anything away from your car Drew, its amazingly fast and I like it, I guess i just dont get the point.

Its like a scion saying he could keep up with me if i took out a spark plug and ran in reverse.


Now with that being said, i cant wait til VF release the s/c for your car....lol, now that will be some good times!!!

[SPDu4ea]

I think its a fine comparison. Drew is a good driver and always seems to run his car under advantageous conditions (lower speeds when against higher hp cars, higher speeds when against lower hp awd cars) -- but this vid still shows that pump vs pump a bolt-on E92 is tough to beat. No surprise really, when octane limited, there is no replacement for displacement...

[GJGM3]

Yeah, pump to pump is another story all together. The only way I can describe a HPF Stg. II on race, meth or race/meth is VIOLENTLY fast.

Impressive run Drew.

Can't wait to get close to the 600 rwhp club - CF-R style.

[bone_doc s4]

nice runs bro!!

But if your gonna make an HPF car run on pump and from 1st/2nd gear rolls, at least give the poor guy a little redemption and vid him on race/meth starting from 3rd ;)

[gixxer]

Wow, was it the driver on that HPF stage 2 running pump gas, that the other car beat?

This does not make any sense to me, i mean you gotta be trying real hard to not even move, to be falling behind like that to the other car.

I'm looking at HPF stage 2 dyno and that teaches us following metrics,

* 91 Octane (518hp)
* 91 Oct + Alc (670hp)
* 110 Octane (731hp)
* 110 Oct + Alc (762hp)
* Multiply by 0.82 for rwhp
* 60-130mph in 6.86 sec
* Factory Internals

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/images/products/horsepowerfreaks/Stage2.gif

Dunno, something isn't right with that run.

[gixxer]

Drew always seems to run his car under advantageous conditions

:4ngie:

[GJGM3]

Low gear runs - perhaps it was traction given all that low-end torque. I've got a similar torque curve on pump and I spin my tires like nuts, in low gears especially.

[gixxer]

Low gear runs - perhaps it was traction given all that low-end torque. I've got a similar torque curve on pump and I spin my tires like nuts, in low gears especially.

Okay, thanks, that would make sense. Yeah, i seem to recall ASA blowers are specially efficient at the lower RPM.

Time for slicks and HPF traction control module. :pimpin:

By the way, looking forward to your 600 rwhp ESS setup. :bow:

[DLSJ5]

I think its a fine comparison. Drew is a good driver and always seems to run his car under advantageous conditions (lower speeds when against higher hp cars, higher speeds when against lower hp awd cars) -- but this vid still shows that pump vs pump a bolt-on E92 is tough to beat. No surprise really, when octane limited, there is no replacement for displacement...

I think that's a compliment, lmao, but I never plan on how to run any car to make it my advantage, in fact I've lost quite a bit. It's simple really, regardless of the car, I usually do 2nd gear rolls if the other car can't hook up then they need to fix it, lol, I don't always hook up either, if you notice in the 1st vid my car was peeling out, 1st gear rolls aren't great for me either, so we'll try another run in a higher gear, etc. Isn't that what we did?

Not sure why you are inferring that I start at higher speeds against lower HP AWD cars? Are you talking about S4's and 996tt's? Some of those runs are do to conditions, where we can't go at lower speeds and I've lost plenty to those cars, lol, and why would you assume that I dictate the start speed? Regardless most of those cars have equal or more power and gobs more TQ and I've ran plenty of AWD cars from lower speeds and then higher speeds the final outcomes are not much different.

I think this is the best comparo for these 2 cars and mine in it's current state, why someone would argue against that is odd, especially since J's HPF car on pump is still making much more HP and TQ than me.

We all know how blazing fast HPF cars are on race fuel and Meth, J did great today, there's more vids FYI, so the outcome against him on race or meth is quite obvious, this one wasn't, so we gave it a go. :) No surprise? It was to me 430+Hp vs. 366whp, but it's all in the DCT I believe.

I can tell you guys we also did one run when he was on race settings, and he couldn't hook up, but when he did GAME OVER, now that is no surprise really, so why not make it more interesting? :)

[DLSJ5]

Wow Drew your car is moving! Any idea what it's trapping?

I'm not sure Bro, I need to do a Vbox run, Austin are you reading this? I need my vbox back!

Based on the cars that I've ran and what they have trapped etc. I think I'm around 117 or so, but that would be on a perfect day I think.

[ST06M3]

Nice run Drew. Your car is flat out hauling. :bow:

I guess no matter how many times you explain that its a pump vs pump race and that you would lose under any under condition, people still need to bring it up. :loco: .

[DLSJ5]

nice runs bro!!

But if your gonna make an HPF car run on pump and from 1st/2nd gear rolls, at least give the poor guy a little redemption and vid him on race/meth starting from 3rd ;)

lmao, and when have you ever ran me on anything but race fuel? :P You should give me some redemption and run on pump. :D

We do our runs usually based on matchups, so the pump vs. pump was the best way to do it. Funkboy, just for you Bro, next time out we will do a race fuel run! :)

[gixxer]

Wow, looks like i found a car that can finally beat HPF car on a leveled playing field. Damn, need to get a DCT for better launch. :bow:

[DLSJ5]

Nice run Drew. Your car is flat out hauling. :bow:

I guess no matter how many times you explain that its a pump vs pump race and that you would lose under any under condition, people still need to bring it up. :loco: .

Appreciate the props Bro!

[DLSJ5]

Yeah, pump to pump is another story all together. The only way I can describe a HPF Stg. II on race, meth or race/meth is VIOLENTLY fast.

Impressive run Drew.

Can't wait to get close to the 600 rwhp club - CF-R style.

G appreciate that man, and you are right J's car is flat out fast on race fuel or Meth, he beat some fast cars today, I just hope they got vids? Justin did you see the vids yet?

[SPDu4ea]

I was not trying to slight you, I think being crafty/cunning/shrewd is a positive attribute (in addition to being a good driver). My observation was based on your tendency to typically run from slow speeds (20-100mph) where traction/throttle modulation/driver skill are more heavily weighted -- except for your run against the awd S4 (which from memory I believe was more of a typical FI freeway 60-130ish run).

either way, I don't think the results would be much different if you'd started at 60mph+ in this matchup

[///M3-QTR]

So this means the AA SC(+ meth) M3 you raced is faster than HPF car on pump ?

I guess it makes around 500rwhp ?

[GJGM3]

Drew, how do you place your camera? Hand held or mounted?

I've missed videos on 3 really good runs and one in particular would made a fantastic clip! A seemingly modded (loud) C4S came up from behind me on a highway here in the TC, taunting my sleeper-a$s look from beside me, I grinned at the passenger and said "shiiiiiiiiiiiiit", driver punched it first, reeled in him right away and blew his a$s off. I let off and let him come up beside me and he heard the releasing pressure which sounds like a searing jet turbine sound. The look on the dude's face was: :facepalm: then you could see him say "fuuuuuuuuuck" and he gave me a thumbs up. LOL! I really wish I could've recorded that one - PRICELESS!

Moral of the story and cliche' I suppose - "never judge a book by its cover", eh, at least mine! :hi: That'll change too. :4ngie:

Is there a mount that will also work with the body (hood)? I want to make a video like "Stockholm 7" CSL (CFR?).

Regrets on the threadjack.

[funkboy316]

So this means the AA SC(+ meth) M3 you raced is faster than HPF car on pump ?

I guess it makes around 500rwhp ?

you cant always say that x car is faster than z car becasue x car beat y car and y car beat z car.

and i knew eventually this would start being about this........yes, maybe the AA car is faster than a crippled HPF car, but really who cripples their car when racing???? I know i sure dont. As Drew said about traction, if you cant hook up fix it.....well if im running my car and you cant keep up....fix it, dont ask me to cripple mine by turning the meth off :facepalm:

[DLSJ5]

I was not trying to slight you, I think being crafty/cunning/shrewd is a positive attribute (in addition to being a good driver). My observation was based on your tendency to typically run from slow speeds (20-100mph) where traction/throttle modulation/driver skill are more heavily weighted -- except for your run against the awd S4 (which from memory I believe was more of a typical FI freeway 60-130ish run).

either way, I don't think the results would be much different if you'd started at 60mph+ in this matchup

You know I respect you Bro you are very knowledgable, honest and I appreciate the kinds words and I understand your point better now, but to be honest, the speeds we start are usually based on the conditions of the roads, etc. If we can start lower we always do, and if we can we try to mix it up and start at different speeds, gears, we do.

I wish I could say I'm shrewd about it, lol, although I would be lying, as would any enthusiast who enjoys doing pulls, that I don't think from time to time the best way to beat the other guy so of course I'd rather run Justin's HPF M3 on pump. :D

[funkboy316]

Funkboy, just for you Bro, next time out we will do a race fuel run! :)

coooool!!
:thumbsup:

[GJGM3]

Drew - when are you boosting your car? From some of what I've seen there's some serious power to be had by boosting that V8!

That'll make for some nice runs, against anyone, from any speed.

[DLSJ5]

you cant always say that x car is faster than z car becasue x car beat y car and y car beat z car.

and i knew eventually this would start being about this........yes, maybe the AA car is faster than a crippled HPF car, but really who cripples their car when racing???? I know i sure dont. As Drew said about traction, if you cant hook up fix it.....well if im running my car and you cant keep up....fix it, dont ask me to cripple mine by turning the meth off :facepalm:

I agree, plus I had my rear seats out for these runs, but based on the vids one might concur that the AA car would win.

430+whp vs. 363 whp, how am I crippling his car? Does Chris not post dyno plots for pump fuel runs? As well as pump fuel runs for the SC'r kits he removes? The main reason I did well is the DCT, like I said, we know the outcome of his best settings, regardless I will run him on the race gas settings next time. :)

[funkboy316]

Gerald, Im going to pm you the link to some serious camera mounts.this is the place that Scott got his also i believe. i bought 2 of them, one that attaches to the front window and one that attaches to the outside of the car. they are vaccuum mounts and very strong. ive tried to pull it off the car with me and 2 other ppl pulling at the same time and it still didnt budge.

[funkboy316]

I agree, plus I had my rear seats out for these runs, but based on the vids one might concur that the AA car would win.

430+whp vs. 363 whp, how am I crippling his car? Does Chris not post dyno plots for pump fuel runs? As well as pump fuel runs for the SC'r kits he removes? The main reason I did well is the DCT, like I said, we know the outcome of his best settings, regardless I will run him on the race gas settings next time. :)

i think that came across wrong...that last one was directed towards the AA car running meth against the HPF car running without it, not for you against the HPF car...lol, i should have specified that

Oh and Drew......in about 6-8 weeks, I'll run you pump vs. pump.....*cough 2.5* ....lol

[GJGM3]

Gerald, Im going to pm you the link to some serious camera mounts.this is the place that Scott got his also i believe. i bought 2 of them, one that attaches to the front window and one that attaches to the outside of the car. they are vaccuum mounts and very strong. ive tried to pull it off the car with me and 2 other ppl pulling at the same time and it still didnt budge.

Got it and thanks again! :bow:

[DLSJ5]

i think that came across wrong...that last one was directed towards the AA car running meth against the HPF car running without it, not for you against the HPF car...lol, i should have specified that

Oh and Drew......in about 6-8 weeks, I'll run you pump vs. pump.....*cough 2.5* ....lol

All good Bro, the 2.5 is the way to go in the long run, Scott has proved how awesome that combo is, my buddy has the Stage 3 HPF setup, and it is insanely fast! Congrats on the 2.5!

[DLSJ5]

Drew - when are you boosting your car? From some of what I've seen there's some serious power to be had by boosting that V8!

That'll make for some nice runs, against anyone, from any speed.

Hopefully in the near future, my buddies Gpowered M3 was there too, there should be some vids posted soon.

On the camera, I'll just say it's not mounted, lol. :D

[bone_doc s4]

lmao, and when have you ever ran me on anything but race fuel? :P You should give me some redemption and run on pump. :D

We do our runs usually based on matchups, so the pump vs. pump was the best way to do it. Funkboy, just for you Bro, next time out we will do a race fuel run! :)


You dont get any redemption bc you keep modding ur car(s), my car has been the same since you've known me :P

all i'm trying to say is if i had an HPF car with 4 power settings, i wouldnt be running the lowest setting to do runs...

BTW, i enjoyed the runs w the C63 more bc both cars are all out....get my point :)

[VetteFish]

definitely some solid runs drew. sorry i couldn't make it out, but I didn't want a stock C6 Z giving you modded guys a run for your money :lmao:

i keed i keed

anywho, i think it was all in good fun. they played around with different speeds. did pump versus pump. it's not like anybody had anything to gain out of this but a good morning of comparisons. Drew, your cars have always held their own very well.

[eee4666]

Awesome :drool: Can't wait to see the e90/92's a few years from now :yikes:

[pastE36prsntE46]

Awesome runs! I believe this race was a good comparison to show off the DCT and what its potential is going to be in the future. Yes the HPF could run meth or even race fuel but when it comes down to it who runs with Meth or racefuel all the time? I know when I was in florida I only turned the meth on once (didnt even put race fuel in the car) but then again as a stage 3 I never had to. Everyone already knows what the HPFs can do, so this video was for the DCT which was awesome. Very nice car Drew.

[babydevilj]

awesome run, quick question though... didnt you run a stage 2 s/c with your same setup now? was that running pump too?

[AirFrcd]

Nice runs brotha. Way to represent the DCT!
I still want to run you with the C32, our WHP numbers are almost identical.

[HPFMTRE]

definitely some solid runs drew. sorry i couldn't make it out, but I didn't want a stock C6 Z giving you modded guys a run for your money :lmao:

i keed i keed

anywho, i think it was all in good fun. they played around with different speeds. did pump versus pump. it's not like anybody had anything to gain out of this but a good morning of comparisons. Drew, your cars have always held their own very well.

were going out next week to give them a run haha i gotta see the nes c6z!


Drew your car is awesome i love your vids! were doing a drive next weekend you should come after supercar sunday!

[ballsdeepm3]

ha ha i love the coment about drew filming while racing. hes pretty good at gettin a good shot and still kickin my ass. i know my car has serious traction problems and i know the potential of the car but im just out raceing it and haveing fun. me and drew thought that it would be a good comparison going with me on pump so we did it, and i respectivly lost but still had a kick ass time playin with our cars. ive got crappy little 265s on the back with half tread. going to have to do something about that. i did race drew with the meth on but no vid and he was doing very well untill the end. it just takes me leaving rubber all over the pavement to get to that point till the car just pulls crazy hard. the hpf cars arnt fast off the line thats all there is to it unless you have the trac control from hpf witch i dont. drew is a good driver and that dct kicks ass. i just saw the vid of me and you. do you know if the other guys posted any yet? awesome day bro talk to ya soon.

[DLSJ5]

Nice man!!!

your car is insane

wow..im amazed! your car is fast drew! for you to be able to pull on a HPF m3 on pump like that.. definate props to you and your ride.

Awesome :drool: Can't wait to see the e90/92's a few years from now :yikes:

Thanks guys!

Nice vid Drew. :str8pimpi

At my first track session with mine Monday (my Worx are off and the OEM CSL`s and Cup`s are on ready) Should have plenty of video running against a friends E60 M5.

Good stuff Mike, looking forward to some vids!

[DLSJ5]

There's a lot of fun being had in that video! Awesome run Drew! DCT M3 is an amazing thing.

Bummed you missed the runs Bro, next time!

[DLSJ5]

definitely some solid runs drew. sorry i couldn't make it out, but I didn't want a stock C6 Z giving you modded guys a run for your money :lmao:

i keed i keed

anywho, i think it was all in good fun. they played around with different speeds. did pump versus pump. it's not like anybody had anything to gain out of this but a good morning of comparisons. Drew, your cars have always held their own very well.

Thanks Ryan, your C6 z06 is gonna be fun to compare with! I'm gonna use it as the benchmark! Not sure with FI that I can catch Justin on race fuel though, but I'm gonna try! :)

[DLSJ5]

awesome run, quick question though... didnt you run a stage 2 s/c with your same setup now? was that running pump too?

J's AA Stage 2 at 9psi, he's on pump and meth, and from all my comparo's with AA cars, his was always the fastest, as was Mspired's.

[DLSJ5]

Nice runs brotha. Way to represent the DCT!
I still want to run you with the C32, our WHP numbers are almost identical.

Thanks Brotha, for sure we need to do that comparo, then with FI we will give it a go with your new beast! :)

[DLSJ5]

Awesome runs! I believe this race was a good comparison to show off the DCT and what its potential is going to be in the future. Yes the HPF could run meth or even race fuel but when it comes down to it who runs with Meth or racefuel all the time? I know when I was in florida I only turned the meth on once (didnt even put race fuel in the car) but then again as a stage 3 I never had to. Everyone already knows what the HPFs can do, so this video was for the DCT which was awesome. Very nice car Drew.

Thanks man and I agree with your thoughts about it, but I do understand others wanting to see the HPF car at it's full potential as well, as you know it would not be fun for me, lol. :P

[DLSJ5]

ha ha i love the coment about drew filming while racing. hes pretty good at gettin a good shot and still kickin my ass. i know my car has serious traction problems and i know the potential of the car but im just out raceing it and haveing fun. me and drew thought that it would be a good comparison going with me on pump so we did it, and i respectivly lost but still had a kick ass time playin with our cars. ive got crappy little 265s on the back with half tread. going to have to do something about that. i did race drew with the meth on but no vid and he was doing very well untill the end. it just takes me leaving rubber all over the pavement to get to that point till the car just pulls crazy hard. the hpf cars arnt fast off the line thats all there is to it unless you have the trac control from hpf witch i dont. drew is a good driver and that dct kicks ass. i just saw the vid of me and you. do you know if the other guys posted any yet? awesome day bro talk to ya soon.

Thanks J, right back at you man, you are a heck of a cool cat. The only reason I did so well besides the bolt on's, is because of the DCT, we will have a fully modded 6mt next time with 4.10's to see if that makes up for the DCT's shifting.

Yeah on the Meth run once you hooked you would have pulled real good, I hit the brakes because a certain P-car was in front of me in the way and by that time I think we were pushing our luck a bit. I got it on vid, but it's short and doesn't really show how bad you would have murdered me once you passed, lol. We will get a good one next time!

[DLSJ5]

Nice drew!! Ran my buddies Evo X 2 days ago on pump also (6psi) and with only a tune, intake, and full exhaust we was able to pull me 1 car and hold it till around 100 when I started reeling him in! So I can tell exactly how fast your car is and man am I impressed with a bolt on M3! I have run an E92 6speed manual on pump (6psi) and was able to pull him with ease! DCT+Bolt ons = FTW!
Evan
PS- Tracking the beast tomorrow (road course), vids to come since I know you always ask me!

Evan! My boy, thanks for the props man! Can't wait to see some vids Bro. Did you see my runs with the modded M5's?

[AirFrcd]

Thanks Brotha, for sure we need to do that comparo, then with FI we will give it a go with your new beast! :)

Right on Bro. I can't wait. LMK when you get a chance to make it up here.
BTW - you are always welcome to stay at my house if you want to.

I think I am going to have the M3 sent back home next wk. I can't break away from work...

[///M3Turk]

damn.. 1st roll was fun
what does DCT mean?

[BadBoostedBmwM3]

Wow!! I can't believe you were able to pull on a HPF (I understand pump gas mode) car like that!! Prop to you! IMO, the DCT did the job!

[///M3-QTR]

damn.. 1st roll was fun
what does DCT mean?

Double Clutch Transmission

[ROM3N]

:)

[mpower95]

Good stuff Drew, I think it shows the potential the E90 M's have. Now tell Nik to get to work and boost that sh*t!

[ballsdeepm3]

id really like to see drews car with the vf kit. would be way fast. hopefully its better than the G power kit. we did race the G power supercharged e90 m3 also. its fast but i guess i expected it to be faster for being a V8 and all. we did a 3rd gear 55mph pull and i beat that car bad with mine in race and meth mode.

[T-Werke]

nice runs, the only thing that i cannot understand is isnt the e46 m3 lighter and making more RWHP with the HPF kit than your bolt on e9X? I would think it would be extremely close race or HPF by a lot.
Travis

[DLSJ5]

Wow!! I can't believe you were able to pull on a HPF (I understand pump gas mode) car like that!! Prop to you! IMO, the DCT did the job!

Agreed on the DCT.

Good stuff Drew, I think it shows the potential the E90 M's have. Now tell Nik to get to work and boost that sh*t!

Thanks Bro! I can't wait tell he gets it done!

:)

Thanks Roman, let's see some vids of the ESS Supercharged setup!!!

[DLSJ5]

id really like to see drews car with the vf kit. would be way fast. hopefully its better than the G power kit. we did race the G power supercharged e90 m3 also. its fast but i guess i expected it to be faster for being a V8 and all. we did a 3rd gear 55mph pull and i beat that car bad with mine in race and meth mode.

Thanks man, the G powered kit is not up to where it should be, but I would think you would still pull regardless, but he'll be back for a rematch!

It will be a lot of fun to compare once I get the blower, but I suspect on race fuel you're gonna get me, but I can't wait to see by how much. :)

[HPFMTRE]

Thanks man, the G powered kit is not up to where it should be, but I would think you would still pull regardless, but he'll be back for a rematch!

It will be a lot of fun to compare once I get the blower, but I suspect on race fuel you're gonna get me, but I can't wait to see by how much. :)

you guys are having way too much fun without me :(

[ballsdeepm3]

you guys are having way too much fun without me :(

yea man you gota come out. i wana check out that stage 3 must be insane. what tire wheel set up u runnin. did u get the trac control

[DLSJ5]

yea man you gota come out. i wana check out that stage 3 must be insane. what tire wheel set up u runnin. did u get the trac control

Bro, he pulled Sid's uber 996tt by 4 cars, like flew by him, it is flat out insane! :bow:

[Flavourless]

Drew that is simply impressive!!

[whoa_itswee]

Nice Drew... I'm enjoying the progress.

[deltasleep]

Wow!! I can't believe you were able to pull on a HPF (I understand pump gas mode) car like that!! Prop to you! IMO, the DCT did the job!

Alot has to do with a drivers ability more than horse power. Good race though..:pimpin: I am not sure why HPF has a on off switch for the meth..I leave mine on all the time..:lmao: Gkad to see drew is out causing problems again..:banghead:lol

[ballsdeepm3]

Alot has to do with a drivers ability more than horse power. Good race though..:pimpin: I am not sure why HPF has a on off switch for the meth..I leave mine on all the time..:lmao: Gkad to see drew is out causing problems again..:banghead:lol

i turned it off and had trac control on to make a fair race.

[Cruzer03]

Bro, he pulled Sid's uber 996tt by 4 cars, like flew by him, it is flat out insane! :bow:

You got video?

[ballsdeepm3]

You got video?

its on first page bro

[beemerfreak]

I still dont know what it proves to run your car all out against a car that isnt running all out? I mean that DCT is hauling butt, but only being able to keep up because someone else crippled their car for you...i dunno....maybe its just me and im sure I'll get called a jerk for voicing my opinion but oh well.

not trying to take anything away from your car Drew, its amazingly fast and I like it, I guess i just dont get the point.

Its like a scion saying he could keep up with me if i took out a spark plug and ran in reverse.


Now with that being said, i cant wait til VF release the s/c for your car....lol, now that will be some good times!!!

Drew didn't keep up pump vs pump he yanked the HPF M3....

Not everyone runs race gas in there car 24/7..... Drew's car will pull that hard no matter what.... HPF M3 is pretty damn slow on pump... For the power to weight ratio it has...

[HPFMTRE]

Drew didn't keep up pump vs pump he yanked the HPF M3....

Not everyone runs race gas in there car 24/7..... Drew's car will pull that hard no matter what.... HPF M3 is pretty damn slow on pump... For the power to weight ratio it has...


ugh you again...



:)

[beemerfreak]

ugh you again...



:)

Yea after seeing this vid...

And watching a stage 2 HPF M3 with meth+110 oct lose to a stock block 35R Evo on 110oct from a 3rd gear roll on a measly 27psi....

Yea makes me wonder.... Maybe these cars are a little to hyped than it should be....

[HPFMTRE]

Yea after seeing this vid...

And watching a stage 2 HPF M3 with meth+110 oct lose to a stock block 35R Evo on 110oct from a 3rd gear roll on a measly 27psi....

Yea makes me wonder.... Maybe these cars are a little to hyped than it should be....

the slipping clutch video?

i dont know i just posted a vid maybe it will get some respect from you ;)

Enjoy!

[funkboy316]

Yea after seeing this vid...

And watching a stage 2 HPF M3 with meth+110 oct lose to a stock block 35R Evo on 110oct from a 3rd gear roll on a measly 27psi....

Yea makes me wonder.... Maybe these cars are a little to hyped than it should be....

Yeah the HPF M3 is over hyped because an Evo that only races to 120 and only if he doesnt have to shift into 5th and only if the moons align with venus pulled on it a couple of times. It seems even from your own post that something was still wrong with the M and that it actually could be a difference in driver ability more than anything. M3 wasnt brake boosting EVo was...etc...etc....

[HPFMTRE]

Yeah the HPF M3 is over hyped because an Evo that only races to 120 and only if he doesnt have to shift into 5th and only if the moons align with venus pulled on it a couple of times. It seems even from your own post that something was still wrong with the M and that it actually could be a difference in driver ability more than anything. M3 wasnt brake boosting EVo was...etc...etc....

Honestly its not worth fighting with this guy(no fense evo guy) it just starts bad conflict with fellow fanatics although i dont know why the evo guy is even on here when all he does is bash bmw IMO no fense not trying to fight.

[beemerfreak]

Yeah the HPF M3 is over hyped because an Evo that only races to 120 and only if he doesnt have to shift into 5th and only if the moons align with venus pulled on it a couple of times. It seems even from your own post that something was still wrong with the M and that it actually could be a difference in driver ability more than anything. M3 wasnt brake boosting EVo was...etc...etc....

Yea the M3 wasn't brake boosting... But the M3 made 640 RWHP (dynojet) and the Evo made 450 WHP (mustang dyno) on pump... The Evo was running 110 oct but it wasn't tuned for it, all he did was put up the boost.... No timing or fuel adjustments in the tune...

They were racing into 5th gear and they were going over 120+ when they raced again on Thursday night.... They did 2nd and 3rd gear pulls....

[beemerfreak]

the slipping clutch video?

i dont know i just posted a vid maybe it will get some respect from you ;)

Enjoy!

Yea same cars but the M3 fixed a lot of things and upgraded a few things and they raced again on Thursday night...

The outcome is in the same thread....

[beemerfreak]

Honestly its not worth fighting with this guy(no fense evo guy) it just starts bad conflict with fellow fanatics although i dont know why the evo guy is even on here when all he does is bash bmw IMO no fense not trying to fight.

The Evo guy (me) is getting rid of the Evo tomorrow for an E36 M3....

I am a car enthusiast, I am on here because I love cars and racing them...

How am I bashing BMW? Maybe I'm bashing the owners of over hyping a certain product that is all... Does Drew not drive a BMW?

I love your little biased comments that you make about me and put no offense every time you do so... :rofl:

[HPFMTRE]

Yea the M3 wasn't brake boosting... But the M3 made 640 RWHP (dynojet) and the Evo made 450 WHP (mustang dyno) on pump... The Evo was running 110 oct but it wasn't tuned for it, all he did was put up the boost.... No timing or fuel adjustments in the tune...

They were racing into 5th gear and they were going over 120+ when they raced again on Thursday night.... They did 2nd and 3rd gear pulls....

Yea same cars but the M3 fixed a lot of things and upgraded a few things and they raced again on Thursday night...

The outcome is in the same thread....

The Evo guy (me) is getting rid of the Evo tomorrow for an E36 M3....

I am a car enthusiast, I am on here because I love cars and racing them...

How am I bashing BMW? Maybe I'm bashing the owners of over hyping a certain product that is all... Does Drew not drive a BMW?

I love your little biased comments that you make about me and put no offense every time you do so... :rofl:



cool.

[Sleepersown]

cool.

Why do you instigate potential conflict and then try to warn others not to ? :facepalm:

Anyway, I wanna see that vid vs the p-car.

[deltasleep]

Yea after seeing this vid...

And watching a stage 2 HPF M3 with meth+110 oct lose to a stock block 35R Evo on 110oct from a 3rd gear roll on a measly 27psi....

Yea makes me wonder.... Maybe these cars are a little to hyped than it should be....

Wish you where closer I would run your car..My clutch is not slipping...My HPF stage 2 kills evo's..modded and stock...Obviously not from a dig:lmao:

[Ravij]

I'll throw in my .02 cents...

Hpf stage 2 cars are fast, and yes they make great whp #'s on pump/ pump+ meth. But only thing they lack is tq. With the non-built s54, you cant push out enough tq. Where as the 2.5, basically a stage 2 with a built block makes over 100 wtq through out the powerband. Cars that make 475+wtq are a close race for a stage 2, the e46 m3 has the gearing to destory anything 120+ mph.

[Ravij]

Wish you where closer I would run your car..My clutch is not slipping...My HPF stage 2 kills evo's..modded and stock...Obviously not from a dig:lmao:

Wanna run me..:4ngie:

[deltasleep]

Wanna run me..:4ngie:

Hell ya buddy..you better bring mor than your new seats, which by the way look pretty cool.. I have a stage 2.2 HPF..wait a minute you do too..:facepalm::facepalm: Since I cant get the stage 2.5 I made up my own stage.. 2.2 has new intake, straight pipes and new air dam..lol

[ballsdeepm3]

ha ha im goin 2.2 eventually. i couldnt even afford the stage 2 but i had to have it. its fun. oh yea please no more evo talk those are the uglyest cars on the road.who cares if one kept up with an m3? i would rather have a PT cruiser with wood panels than one of those.

[DLSJ5]

Here's a couple more vids.

Vs. a Stage 3 B5 S4 on Meth, approx. 430whp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5byeQQ5XOTU

Vs. a Fully Modded 335I, on MS019 approx. 440whp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INaTwWAUB88

Vs. a CLK63 Black Series AMG Stock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx9dZrmdxOA

[DLSJ5]

Alot has to do with a drivers ability more than horse power. Good race though..:pimpin: I am not sure why HPF has a on off switch for the meth..I leave mine on all the time..:lmao: Gkad to see drew is out causing problems again..:banghead:lol

Causing problems? For who? lol! What up D!?

[ST06M3]

Awesome races Drew. It was dam funny to hear you cheer when you were beating the mod'd 335i.

[DLSJ5]

Awesome races Drew. It was dam funny to hear you cheer when you were beating the mod'd 335i.

Thanks Bro, but I was actually cheering for him, haha.

I sound like a tool in the vid, lmao, but that's a very good buddy of mine, and his car has had a lot of issues, his goal was to run with me and he did, had we kept going he may have pulled ahead, but by that point we were way beyond what we should go to, lol.

[GJGM3]

Dang Drew - nice runs and power. Seeing on your sig your Mustang rwhp is 363, I figure on a DynoJet you're likely at ~395. That's really nice power for N/A.

[DLSJ5]

Dang Drew - nice runs and power. Seeing on your sig your Mustang rwhp is 363, I figure on a DynoJet you're likely at ~395. That's really nice power for N/A.

Thanks G!

[Sleepersown]

Dang Drew - nice runs and power. Seeing on your sig your Mustang rwhp is 363, I figure on a DynoJet you're likely at ~395. That's really nice power for N/A.


Seriously. Your car runs HARD ! Very nice !

[BingM3]

The E46M3 driver is a noobie

[ballsdeepm3]

nice kills

[DLSJ5]

nice kills

Thanks bro!