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HPF Chris
07-15-2009, 09:06 PM
Only a handful of customers have had the luxury of driving both the stage 2 and the stage 2.5. People ask about it all the time and it's really hard to describe the differences other than it's just MUCH faster. Even though the peak power is relatively close (except on pump gas), the stage 2.5 is gut-wrenching.

So I decided to put together a bunch of dyno graphs showing the comparisons...

PUMP GAS ONLY

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/dynographs/Stage2vs2.5_Pump.gif

PUMP GAS AND METHANOL

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/dynographs/Stage2vs2.5_Pump_Meth.gif

RACE GAS (110 OCTANE)

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/dynographs/Stage2vs2.5_Race.gif

RACE GAS AND METHANOL

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/dynographs/Stage2vs2.5_Race_Meth.gif

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/samm3/samengine3.jpg

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/samm3/samengine2.jpg

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/samm3/samengine1.jpg

2005M3Driver
07-15-2009, 09:22 PM
First.....
:drool:

RACEMX-M3
07-15-2009, 09:28 PM
Also a full second faster 60-130 time. :) Chris post the torque graphs, I think that's the bigger surprise. I drive on just pump fuel 95% of the time - race + meth is a rush. :yikes:

funkboy316
07-15-2009, 09:32 PM
:drool: can't wait to feel the difference, and I should be able to track striaght with little to no wheel slip with the OS Giken diff and the HPF traction control! :pimpin:

yellowssm
07-15-2009, 10:08 PM
One day my car will be back at your shop Chris for all the goodies :woot:

dm4paintballer
07-15-2009, 10:27 PM
Be calling you soon. Looking to do this in August.

deltasleep
07-15-2009, 11:16 PM
I love living 3 hours away from HPF!!! Let me start the list for everyone..chime in if you want your name on it..

Dear Santa,
I have been a good BMW HPF M3 owner. I only put the best things in my car, now I know you probably frowned about what happened last week. Santa it was a moment of weakness, her name was tawny and she really REALLY liked my car. How was I suppose to know she would take advantage of us, I mean seriously we were violated. Santa lets put that in the past..Santa I promise I will be the best HPF stage 2.5 owner in the world, along with my 10 other HPF stage 2 brothers..P.S. can I have my present early, like next week?

Sincerely,

Derek

frankieb96
07-15-2009, 11:28 PM
RACE GAS(100 OCTANE)

i'm assuming this is a typo. . .isn't it 110 minimum for the race gas map?

either way, 100 or 110, i have both regularly available off the pump :craig:

Estoril-E46
07-15-2009, 11:30 PM
i'm assuming this is a typo. . .isn't it 110 minimum for the race gas map?

either way, 100 or 110, i have both regularly available off the pump :craig:

Yea you're going to need it.

frankieb96
07-15-2009, 11:33 PM
Yea you're going to need it.

does it count as a win for me when you get pulled over before the end of the race?:read:

deltasleep
07-16-2009, 01:59 AM
500 rwhp at 5200 rpm good lord..my tires are hiding.:pimpin:

HPF Chris
07-17-2009, 11:37 PM
One day my car will be back at your shop Chris for all the goodies :woot:

That sounds good. I can't wait to see you force Brian to go to stage 3. :)


500 rwhp at 5200 rpm good lord..my tires are hiding.


Let's get you in here next week!


i'm assuming this is a typo. . .isn't it 110 minimum for the race gas map?

either way, 100 or 110, i have both regularly available off the pump


I fixed it. Thanks.


Be calling you soon. Looking to do this in August.


Sounds good. Let us know what dates you're looking to do it, and we can pencil you in.


can't wait to feel the difference, and I should be able to track striaght with little to no wheel slip with the OS Giken diff and the HPF traction control!


You're going to love it. I just dropped your bearings off at the machine shop today. The motor will be done on Tuesday and going back in your car. The diff will be back in your car on Monday. :)

I love the stage 2.5 kits!!! Now wait for me to post the stage 2 to stage 3 and stage 4 overlays!! :)

Chris.

AirFrcd
07-17-2009, 11:52 PM
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I love the stage 2.5 kits!!! Now wait for me to post the stage 2 to stage 3 and stage 4 overlays!! :)

Chris.

I will be back b4 you know it brother :bow: