when tunning a s/c should u put in on a dyno after installing s/c 4 fine tunning

[bobm3]

i want to get this straight for a few fanatics...the idea is to fine tune and make sure very thing is where it is suppose to be in the performance of the s/c in the engine... can the s/c guru's speak their thoughts on this.....
bobm3

[[TYPE]SS]

well in our case unless you can drive down to AA , we really cant get a fine tune. our only choice is by mail in flash which wont be as good as a dyno tune since each car doesnt act 100% the same.

[bobm3]

i know 2 guys who blew their engine with their s/c.... and i think now after my odeal that when they got their s/c and they both didn't have aa s/c 's ..... i think their trouble was the same as mind it wasn't fine tune..... i think veryone is taking a risk if they don't check out their s/c ...just to make sure very thing is tune wright.....

are you telling me the only ones that dyno tune their s/c are aa in florida.. no other s/c co does that for their custumers....that is good to know....and by the way i live in new york and aa in florida send me to someone to dyno tune my s/c with them in florida so i guess that is the next best thing than living close to aa in florida.......
bobm3

[TxZHP04]

Are you talking about actually tuning the car, or are you simply talking about putting the car on a dyno to check AFRs, etc to make sure there are no install issues? There honestly aren't a lot of places with the capability to tune these cars.

[Saintly]

Are you talking about actually tuning the car, or are you simply talking about putting the car on a dyno to check AFRs, etc to make sure there are no install issues?. This is what I would do. Put it on a dyno and check WOT AFR's.

[bobm3]

i bought a aa stage 1 off my friend and then i up graded it from aa in florida to a stage 2..... i went to my local speed shop that is very well known in the new york area tkx out in long island.... i am not a speed guy not a hot roder
i have the s/c for the cust car shows so i left the insulation of the s/c to the speed shop....well i don't get on my car alot so after 5 months i was driving to a show out of state and i was playing with my friend on my team his new 335 turbo.... and guess what my car was going into limp mode. so i call aa and spoke to one of their teck's (carl) he told me to change or clean the fuel filter then the air filter then the spark plugs and the coils started with the easy stuff and work my way up to the more pricey stuff...... then the teck carl ask me what the dyno said......i told him that the speed shop did not mention for me to go to have my car dyno.. my friends told me i should go just to see what h/p i was puting down..... after carl told me to go have it dyno i told him i was at the end of my wits with my car..... so he told me to go to someone he new in my area that was into racing and he would check out my car when he put the car to the dyno with a comp. hook up he saw that my car was running rich at low rpm and lean on high rpm... and my cam was acting up he did not know if the cam was moving the correct distance in the motor..... he call carl up at 7 50 pm i told him that aa guys quit at 6 pm and he told me he had carl personal cell number... talk about cust serv. thats when i found out that carl is one of the owners of aa..... and he told me didn't they put the car on a dyno after the install.. and i said no and carl told me you should i guess to double check the soft wear......that is something i feel that very one sure know about when installing a s/c.... aa thinks that the installer is doing that for the most part..... carl told me that that is the only way the s/c can be tune or fine tune to get top perf. out of the motor. i found out that because the s/c was running lean i was only pushing 385 h/p where i should be pushing a good 425 to 450 r/h/p....the inportant thing to know is if the motor is running lean and you are hiting the high rpm you can blow the engine i wonder how many s/c cars with the limp mode coming on is from my problem plus with the cam problem to.... i had to wait around a month to give my car back to this guy to send the soft wear to aa (carl) next week i am giving him my car for a few days so carl and this fellow can fix my problem....

also my car was stalling out at times when i stop at the light i found out that the installer of the s/c put a blace thin hose on the left side of the charger from the front to the driver side rear of the charger found out that it was choking the s/c of air... once he remove the hose and plug the holes my engine stop stalling out..... i just wanted to get my story out to you guys so if you are having trouble like im having you can correct it....thank god i spoke to this teck at aa and he send me to someone that knows aa s/chargers by the way he lives in new jersey.....hope i inlighten some of the fanaticsthat is having the same trouble as me
bob :woot::woot:

[bobm3]

Are you talking about actually tuning the car, or are you simply talking about putting the car on a dyno to check AFRs, etc to make sure there are no install issues? There honestly aren't a lot of places with the capability to tune these cars.


i guess both of those things.....i guess when carl told me to put the car on a dyno with a comp. it was to check to see if very thing was working wright and to check the red light for the cam.... to see what was the issue for that and thats when he found the rich to lean problem.
bob :woot::woot:

[TxZHP04]

i guess both of those things.....i guess when carl told me to put the car on a dyno with a comp. it was to check to see if very thing was working wright and to check the red light for the cam.... to see what was the issue for that and thats when he found the rich to lean problem.
bob :woot::woot:

No, you're not talking about tuning here. You're talking about identifying installation problems. This is always a good idea. When we talk about tuning around here, we're typically referring to reprogramming the DME... something most local shops are not capable of doing.

[bobm3]

No, you're not talking about tuning here. You're talking about identifying installation problems. This is always a good idea. When we talk about tuning around here, we're typically referring to reprogramming the DME... something most local shops are not capable of doing.

i just want my s/c to perf correctly and not to have any issues with it....
so i can go after a certain vette hehehe but the vette is another story
bob :woot::woot:

[Jean@ActiveAutowerke]

It is always a good idea to get the car to a dyno after an install as big as a supercharger. Intake, exhaust and headers aren't a big deal, although most people take it to the dyno to see the gains, which is fine.

Remember when you install a supercharger everything changes. From the injectors, timing maps (on some kits), etc... A dyno is a good tool to see if the car is performing as it should and to check afr's as mentioned above.

A dyno is there to give you an idea of how your car is performing and to allow you to compare it to others and to what is advertised. Chances are you will not need a tune.

If the car has been driving as it should for a few months then 1 day out of the blue it starts to limp or drive weird. It's not the tune, the tune won't change. There are a lot of people out there who like to question the tune at the first sign of something not working properly. Also if the car is acting weird at first start up, chances are its an install error.

If the car was driving fine then went into limp, the first thing to do is read the codes. From there we can help diagnose the issue.

If you are worried about the tune, the best thing to do is get it on a dyno so we can read the chart. Also check boost. Then go from there. We will offer revisions if needed.

[bobm3]

It is always a good idea to get the car to a dyno after an install as big as a supercharger. Intake, exhaust and headers aren't a big deal, although most people take it to the dyno to see the gains, which is fine.

Remember when you install a supercharger everything changes. From the injectors, timing maps (on some kits), etc... A dyno is a good tool to see if the car is performing as it should and to check afr's as mentioned above.

A dyno is there to give you an idea of how your car is performing and to allow you to compare it to others and to what is advertised. Chances are you will not need a tune.

If the car has been driving as it should for a few months then 1 day out of the blue it starts to limp or drive weird. It's not the tune, the tune won't change. There are a lot of people out there who like to question the tune at the first sign of something not working properly. Also if the car is acting weird at first start up, chances are its an install error.

If the car was driving fine then went into limp, the first thing to do is read the codes. From there we can help diagnose the issue.

If you are worried about the tune, the best thing to do is get it on a dyno so we can read the chart. Also check boost. Then go from there. We will offer revisions if needed.

about the cam.... but i was doing other things to my car the last 4 months.. and i never got on my car sence i got it up to a month or so...ago just did not have the time to look into it....but im very happy i spoke to carl and he send me to felix....

and im happy you came into my tread. i was hoping one of you guys from aa
would back me up to what carl told me... about the dynoing the car after the install....
bob :woot::woot: