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pokeybritches 09-14-2013 07:51 AM

VF Engineering kit - M54B30
 
Hello all. While I'm more of a lurker since I don't own an E46, I figured some of those on the FI fence could benefit from a quick video. I know I was scouring youtube to figure out what the car would sound like before taking the plunge. My car has an M54B30, so a 330i/ci should sound very similar. Feel free to shoot any questions my way.

Rev, parking speeds, WOT:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQy2MtIww4U

Sorry about all the dust. The car spends most of its life with the top down, but it's getting a detail very soon!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_fNKYFNlHU

Edit 10/22/2013: The car now has a 3.64 final drive paired with Supersprint headers, Y-pipe, and race exhaust.

http://i42.tinypic.com/mvp99g.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roqXCCtc23M

www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQku3zFUa_8

zaharias 10-03-2013 03:47 PM

Was the kit on the car when you bought it or you installed it afterwards? (VF)
More vids please! :)

pokeybritches 10-03-2013 06:02 PM

I installed it about 18 months and 10k miles ago :)

zaharias 10-04-2013 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by pokeybritches (Post 15747222)
I installed it about 18 months and 10k miles ago :)

Nice.
Is this the stage that produces 330hp?
Any dyno?
This is without intercooler, right?

pokeybritches 10-05-2013 10:11 PM

No dyno, and no intercooler. I'm throwing around options right now to get more power. The added boost has been great though!

VF used to claim 330 hp. I've seen this kit listed as "310 hp" recently. I'd side with 310 hp, based on some quick math.

225 hp * (6 + 14.7) / 14.7 = 317 hp

Then subtract some for parasitic losses and supercharger (in)efficiencies. 310 hp is reasonable.

zaharias 10-06-2013 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by pokeybritches (Post 15751558)
No dyno, and no intercooler. I'm throwing around options right now to get more power. The added boost has been great though!

VF used to claim 330 hp. I've seen this kit listed as "310 hp" recently. I'd side with 310 hp, based on some quick math.

225 hp * (6 + 14.7) / 14.7 = 317 hp

Then subtract some for parasitic losses and supercharger (in)efficiencies. 310 hp is reasonable.

At the moment it's the cheapest kit on the market (i think) and with no issues.. after a lot of search about vf..

Is your M54 manual or auto? Diff ratio?

pokeybritches 10-06-2013 09:31 AM

Manual; 3.07, but my transmission is different. It works out to similar top speeds in each gear as a stock 330 6-speed.

The VF kit is probably the easiest on the car of any FI kit, because it only runs 6 psi at redline. That also means it makes the least power. You don't need to worry about upgrading anything, unlike other kits, so this truly is the cheapest option beyond just the initial cost of the kit... unless you decide you want more power. Clutches are rated based on torque, and the VF kit doesn't increase torque numbers by much at max torque (something like a 20% increase). Instead, it adds torque as the rpm climbs, where it would normally fall off because the engine becomes less efficient. This makes for a very flat torque curve.

The downside is that you don't get instant power at low rpm. You have to wind the engine out to get moving. But again, the stock clutch is fine if it's in good condition, where other kits may require replacement.

zaharias 10-06-2013 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by pokeybritches (Post 15752103)
Manual; 3.07, but my transmission is different. It works out to similar top speeds in each gear as a stock 330 6-speed.

The VF kit is probably the easiest on the car of any FI kit, because it only runs 6 psi at redline. That also means it makes the least power. You don't need to worry about upgrading anything, unlike other kits, so this truly is the cheapest option beyond just the initial cost of the kit... unless you decide you want more power. Clutches are rated based on torque, and the VF kit doesn't increase torque numbers by much at max torque (something like a 20% increase). Instead, it adds torque as the rpm climbs, where it would normally fall off because the engine becomes less efficient. This makes for a very flat torque curve.

The downside is that you don't get instant power at low rpm. You have to wind the engine out to get moving. But again, the stock clutch is fine if it's in good condition, where other kits may require replacement.

Do you think you can upgrade it get some more hp?
My 330Ci has a 5sp gearbox (from M3 E36 3.0) and 3.38 diff. I live in an island, so top speed is not my comcern.
My clutch is sachs new (20k) and i recently did a full engine rebuild and added headers+200 cell Magnaflow cats.
Do you have any vid from inside? 0-60?

pokeybritches 10-06-2013 11:16 AM

You can upgrade it with a smaller pulley, but just know that it will void whatever warranty VF gives you. I haven't measured yet, but I don't think the pulley is a standard Vortech pulley, so you'll need someone to make one for you. You'll need a tune too, which is the hardest part. I see no issue with bumping it up to 8 psi, especially with water/meth and a good tune. Some people run around at 8.5 psi with no intercooler on ESS Stage 1 twin screw setups with the TS2+ pulley, and those setups should be more prone to detonation because they boost the car more at peak torque.

zaharias 10-06-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pokeybritches (Post 15752296)
You can upgrade it with a smaller pulley, but just know that it will void whatever warranty VF gives you. I haven't measured yet, but I don't think the pulley is a standard Vortech pulley, so you'll need someone to make one for you. You'll need a tune too, which is the hardest part. I see no issue with bumping it up to 8 psi, especially with water/meth and a good tune. Some people run around at 8.5 psi with no intercooler on ESS Stage 1 twin screw setups with the TS2+ pulley, and those setups should be more prone to detonation because they boost the car more at peak torque.

I love ESS.. i believe i would be nice even with a TS1.. lots of torque from low rpm..in addition with my 5sp and 3.38 diff would be a nice toy.. but the cost is a bit high..

If i go with VF i will keep it as VF sells it..
I don't like making epxperiments.. i prefer sure/guarented/tested options/upgrades..

I also have an ASA kit as an option with 320hp and +100NM..

Haven't decided yet..

pokeybritches 10-06-2013 01:04 PM

If you're talking about G-Power, I'm not sure they make the kit anymore. If they do, it's a good option. My G-Power kit on my Z4M puts out a lot more midrange than other kits that run similar max boost levels. I see peak boost from 6k rpm to the 8k rpm redline.

Here is another video, and it's all I'll have until the end of the month:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk9p3LohodU

zaharias 10-06-2013 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokeybritches (Post 15752449)
If you're talking about G-Power, I'm not sure they make the kit anymore. If they do, it's a good option. My G-Power kit on my Z4M puts out a lot more midrange than other kits that run similar max boost levels. I see peak boost from 6k rpm to the 8k rpm redline.

Here is another video, and it's all I'll have until the end of the month:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk9p3LohodU

Thanks for the video. :)
It's similar to G-Power.. It has an ASA T3-313 supercharger..
When i have a trip to Athens for work i have a car of a client with this kit fitted and i plan to test drive..

pokeybritches 10-22-2013 02:59 PM

Updated with dyno numbers, dyno pull video, and Supersprint headers video.

zaharias 11-05-2013 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by pokeybritches (Post 15787941)
Updated with dyno numbers, dyno pull video, and Supersprint headers video.

Very nice..!!

SS headers are very good. Your sound is very nice.



I also bought a M3 rear axle with 3.62 lsd to put in my 330Ci..

pokeybritches 11-05-2013 04:04 PM

Thanks!

I recently swapped the 3.07 final drive for a 3.64. I love it. Now to build it into an LSD...

secono330ci 12-18-2013 07:01 PM

Can you post an in-car acceleration video with the 3.64 when you get a chance? I have a 3.64 and looking into this kit!

pokeybritches 12-20-2013 12:04 AM

VF Engineering kit - M54B30
 
The car is at the shop getting cats welded in and a new Tial QR bypass valve installed. I'll take some videos when I get it back.


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pokeybritches 12-20-2013 05:41 PM

VF Engineering kit - M54B30
 
Just got the car back an hour ago. Here's a rolling start 5-60 mph with a passenger.

http://youtu.be/I-Ap-gkNZY8


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Rob43 12-20-2013 05:59 PM

Sounds good, enjoy.

secono330ci 12-20-2013 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pokeybritches (Post 15899682)
The car is at the shop getting cats welded in and a new Tial QR bypass valve installed. I'll take some videos when I get it back.


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Quote:

Originally Posted by pokeybritches (Post 15900964)
Just got the car back an hour ago. Here's a rolling start 5-60 mph with a passenger.

http://youtu.be/I-Ap-gkNZY8


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:excited: sounds like it hauls with that 3.64. So the upgraded blow off valve was for sound?


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