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Commander FAT 05-26-2004 06:28 AM

Windy City BMW @ Grattan
 
I posted this in the Chicago area euro board and I wanted to post it here too since there are more people.


Does anyone know if Grattan would be a safe track for a first time at a driver's school? It looks a bit more complex than Gingerman.

Grattan

http://www.grattanraceway.com/grattan.gif

Gingerman
http://www.gingermanraceway.com/images/mapfullcolor.jpg

I would have done Gingerman in a heartbeat (in fact I still have hotel reservations I need to cancel) but I can't really ask for days off at my job since I've only been here for a few weeks and Gingerman is only next month. :( The Grattan school is in September though.

stealthy 05-26-2004 12:01 PM

Any track is safe for beginners. I guess except Road America.

Anyway, Grattan is a very technical track. There are a lot to learn on that track even for a veteran. Lots of blind and off-camber corners. 1/4 mile straight and a jump in the back straight. It is quite a rollercoaster track. It is my favorite track in Michigan. Just go and have fun.

On the other hand, Gingerman is a true beginner's track. Very flat and lots of run offs. Almost nothing to hit except at turn 11.

Either one, you will have tons of fun and a lot to learn.

Good luck.

Commander FAT 05-26-2004 02:38 PM

Thanks.

What does off camber turn mean? Souinds harsh.

jmsanders78 05-26-2004 11:05 PM

Grattan is GREAT! I think it's tough, though. But wow...

Gingerman inspires confidence. Like Stealthy said, there's basically nothing to hit. I started at Putnam, which has tons of runoff room, like Gingerman. Can you not sneak away for the weekend to go to Gingerman? I'm going!

I'm going to sign up for Grattan with Windy City as soon as my application arrives. Are they out yet?

Off-camber means the road isn't flat from side to side. Turn three has a blind turn-in and the road slopes down to the right, away from the apex. It's a riot! (at Grattan)

Commander FAT 05-27-2004 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmsanders78
Grattan is GREAT! I think it's tough, though. But wow...

Gingerman inspires confidence. Like Stealthy said, there's basically nothing to hit. I started at Putnam, which has tons of runoff room, like Gingerman. Can you not sneak away for the weekend to go to Gingerman? I'm going!

I'm going to sign up for Grattan with Windy City as soon as my application arrives. Are they out yet?

Off-camber means the road isn't flat from side to side. Turn three has a blind turn-in and the road slopes down to the right, away from the apex. It's a riot! (at Grattan)

No I can't. I'll be going to Grattan if I get the days off for sure though.
The application isn't posted yet.

Will ZCPM3 05-28-2004 12:34 PM

when is this? can bmwcca members go with diff chapters? i would love to go to this and its close to home

Commander FAT 05-28-2004 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by B3AM3R
when is this? can bmwcca members go with diff chapters? i would love to go to this and its close to home

Hrm...good question. Head over to www.windycitybmw.com for the Windy City chapter's homepage. Maybe you can email them or give them a call.

jmsanders78 05-28-2004 06:35 PM

Yes - any BMW CCA member can attend any driving school hosted by any chapter. In some cases the hosting chapter will require you to be a member of their chapter additionally, and the fee to be registered in more than one chapter is small (~$15).

Windy City BMW CCA does not post the applications for their events on their website. If you contact them they will fax or mail you the application when it comes out if you are not a Windy City BMW CCA chapter member. Their newsletter contains the application, so chapter members (who get the newsletter) automatically get the app. The Grattan application is supposed to be out in the next two weeks or so...


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