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noflash 09-12-2002 02:52 PM

stock stereo upgrade
 
Okay,

I just got a new job, so I can finally afford to upgrade my non-HK system in my '99 328i - note: the rear seats don't fold and I don't have a ski-pass.

My plans so far:
- Punch out ski-pass plate.
- Install Basslink vertically on the firewall right over the hole (I know the opinion is that the Basslink is weak, but I already own it and I really can't hear it in it's box in the closet!).
- Install 12-disc Pioneer changer w/ BMWPILA (it will work, 7-12 will look funky on display; I already own this so I gotta use it)
- tint

This all makes use of the factory non-HK amp. Will it be possible to upgrade the sound of the 10-speaker system after all this and keep the stock head-unit?

I DO NOT need more volume, I need better quality sound.
I would consider an amp and speaker upgrades, though I don't know what combination and how many of each.

Any help would be appreciated.

TIA

BGReddy00 09-12-2002 02:57 PM

I would look into getting some JL W6 like one 10 for a lil extra bass and getting 2 Rockford Fosgate amps or JL one for your stereo and one for your sub...add a power cap, and finally start adding I.C.E. like maybe a indash apline or pioneer DVD player with flip screen

fabulus323 09-12-2002 04:02 PM

I started by adding an amp and a some subs(still using the factory HU). I had a problem getting bass in the cabin so I punched out the ski hole(like you plan on doing) and it did help but I still want more. So now I am going to remove the rear speakers and mount 2 10's in a free air (when the speaker uses the trunk as the box) set up. Once the subs are taken care of I am going to add a 2nd and 3rd amp to power the front and rear mids and tweets.

Although it takes awhile doing it in stages helps you appreciate you upgrades and you can save money for better performing products.

noflash 09-12-2002 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fabulus323
I started by adding an amp and a some subs(still using the factory HU). I had a problem getting bass in the cabin so I punched out the ski hole(like you plan on doing) and it did help but I still want more. So now I am going to remove the rear speakers and mount 2 10's in a free air (when the speaker uses the trunk as the box) set up. Once the subs are taken care of I am going to add a 2nd and 3rd amp to power the front and rear mids and tweets.

Although it takes awhile doing it in stages helps you appreciate you upgrades and you can save money for better performing products.

So, two relatively small amps can power the ten speakers and hook up directly with the stock head unit?

That would be ideal. And an easy next step would be to gradually replace the speakers.

True?

fabulus323 09-12-2002 04:52 PM

And like I said you appreciate your upgrades that much more. You might want to look into the JL Audio stealthboxes for the E46. I heard they sound really good(not too loud) and you dont need a big box in the trunk for them.

Check it out!

http://www.jlaudio.com/stealthbox/3series2.html

noflash 09-13-2002 12:27 PM

help!
 
Can someone move this to the new ICE forum?

I'd like to hear some more responses b/f it dies.

Thanks.

NiTE 09-13-2002 02:00 PM

I dont think you even need 2 amps to power the factory 10 speakers, one for the speakers should be fine and one for the subs. Someone correct me if im wrong :dunno:

NiTE 09-13-2002 02:01 PM

Woah those JL stealthboxes would look nice in a car thats trying to retain a factory look... id rather keep the rear speakers and just get subs in the trunk though :D

noflash 09-16-2002 11:21 AM

moderator?
 
move to ICE por favor!

boynix 09-16-2002 11:27 AM

my setup's gonna be 2 JL 10"s in a custom box in the trunk w/ a RF amp..

something simple to throw in and get some extra bass from the HK HU.

I believe one amp is good enough for the subs :)

noflash 09-16-2002 12:02 PM

but how amps
 
for the ten speakers? I mean is the stock amp a 10-channel amp?

I'm sure it's not, but how many channels do I need for 10 speakers.

And can you hook up the amp(s) to the stock head unit?

:dunno:

djabaley 09-16-2002 08:20 PM

Re: stock stereo upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally posted by noflash
I DO NOT need more volume, I need better quality sound.

that's nice to hear for a change. in that case, go w/ the basslink. It's not hugely (new word) loud, but it has a built-in amp and should do well for adding in a little bit of low-end power. Also (strongly) consider the JL audio stealthboxes. They will need a separate amp, but they don't require much power for - what I consider to be - tasteful listening levels. (Try a Rockford Fosgate m250 or a smaller PPI amp if you get the stealthboxes.)

Quote:

I would consider an amp and speaker upgrades, though I don't know what combination and how many of each.
DO NOT try to use an after-market amp on the factory speakers, you are just asking for trouble. First, the factory speakers cannot handle much power, and you might run a chance of blowing them. Secondly, it can be very tedious to modify the stock system to this level. If you decide to do upgrades other than add more bass, you'll need to start with (at the minimum) a set of component speakers for the front and a four-channel amplifier. The four channel amp would power the front components (a mid-range and tweeter in each front door) and two "filler" speakers in the rear. The factory rear speakers should do fine for this as long as most amp power is diverted to the front components. So, that's just my two cents.

ps...any shop worth their weight in speaker wire should be able to interface the speaker set-up I mentioned with the factory head unit

noflash 09-17-2002 08:30 PM

Re: Re: stock stereo upgrade
 
Good reply!

I am starting with the Basslink - hopefully moday.

If that doesn't do the trick I will take your advice with the component speakers.

Thanks


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