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ShaShaSha 11-28-2005 04:14 PM

New Double Din Install With Vent Modifications
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I have finished install my Kenwood Double Din and thought I would post some pictures of the install. I modified the vent system a bit different than others since I was having issues with adhesives and I felt it also needed to be serviceable. Thus, I have add some pictures of the vent modification. If anyone has any questions just ask.

ShaShaSha 11-28-2005 04:15 PM

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More pictures.........

digitalsin 11-28-2005 04:31 PM

Dude, that is AWESOME. How is your air flow? I cut my ducts about 3 months ago and still haven't fabricated something permanent yet, but thats a great idea. You wouldn't happen to have measurements or a template to make that would you. Nice job.

One question though....how does the plexi hold up against high heat coming through those ducts. I would think it might warp over time.

You did make sure to put your ducts in the open position before cutting the control bar out didn't you?

Great job!:thumbup:

ShaShaSha 11-28-2005 04:47 PM

My airflow seams to be fine. I have been using the heat in Chicago since the weather isn't even for the birds. I used Lexan since it has greater flexibility than regular Acrylic. Thus, I do not think the heat will be an issue. If it is I will just fabricate a new piece using thicker material. The concept and idea remain. Make it serviceable.

I tried numerous adhesives (5 or 6). Anything from Epoxy, 3M plastic, Epoxy Clay, Silicone, etc. The issue was always the same. Think of it like a ice cube tray. If the tray does not flex the cubes remain locked in place. Twist the tray and the cubes fall out. That is exactly what happened with the adhesives. I test spotted the adhesives to check adhesion before spending time otherwise. This to me seemed to be the best solution. In addition, it was fairly easy to fabricate and install.

As far as the ducts go I cut the control arm and then removed it from BOTH ends. Thus, I would not have to worry about the cut pieces getting stuck on anything. The vents I removed. Then I drilled a series of holes through them and put them back in the closed position. Thus, I am letting airflow through them. It is just restricted by how many and what size hole you drill. It is a happy medium since you do not have to make a choice to only have it on or off.

SrCsTc 11-28-2005 05:07 PM

You did a really Nice Job indeed! Great idea on the vent mod. That seems like the best way to go imo. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


ShaShaSha 11-28-2005 05:13 PM

Thanks Rich..... The bezel you fabricated fit awesome and certainly saved me a whole bunch of time.

SrCsTc 11-28-2005 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by ShaShaSha
Thanks Rich..... The bezel you fabricated fit awesome and certainly saved me a whole bunch of time.

Thank you, I'm glad you like it. :)
One thing about your install is that you can put it back to stock fairly easily if you wanted to. :thumbup:


Ron@Streeteffectz 11-28-2005 06:25 PM

VERY nice indeed! Always nice to see excellent craftmanship :)

Mapleleaf 11-28-2005 08:10 PM

This is the ONE THREAD i needed as I am about to change to 2-din soon. One question : I am in Singapore, and I willl NEVER need the heater. Would my mod be easier? e.g. simply removing something and throw it out?

SrCsTc 11-28-2005 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by Mapleleaf
This is the ONE THREAD i needed as I am about to change to 2-din soon. One question : I am in Singapore, and I willl NEVER need the heater. Would my mod be easier? e.g. simply removing something and throw it out?

No, because you'd have to remove the dash to do that. It's easier to just do the vent mod.


Mapleleaf 11-28-2005 08:17 PM

Hi ShaShaSha,

What is the Kenwood model? I can't find one that is fully black in Singapore.

Jeff 330CI 11-28-2005 08:37 PM


Mapleleaf 11-28-2005 09:08 PM


I don't mean throwing out the whole heater set-up. Can I just terminate the vent or whatever piping there - like cut it away and just seal off the ends. I will also dislodge the wire to the heater switch so that the heater will not be activated.

Yellowmann 11-28-2005 09:21 PM

Wow that is great work on the custom housing for the vent area. Also Rich's trim is always top notch.


NickACS 11-28-2005 10:31 PM

Install looks great.. thanks for the pics! :) And Rich, your piece is awesome as always :thumbup:

ca1242 11-29-2005 11:52 AM

That is a great idea!

When there is pressure in the system, do you have any leaks?

What dampers get affected exactly and what do they serve? What are the consequences to bolting the closed/open?

rcurley55 11-29-2005 01:55 PM

That looks so nice (prays Alpine releases double din at ces)

I can't remember what exactly that arm is that goes across and needs to be removed - what does it do and why can't we mod that to make it work around that plexi cutout - seems like there's still space between the heat exchanger and the plexi?

lthsa 11-29-2005 02:06 PM

Wow, that looks awesome.
Actually, I'm gonna have a double-din setup like you very soon but I'll have an eclipse radio though.
Although I'm not a person who has good mechanical knowledges like you, I'll try to install it myself.
I'm pretty sure about to modify that airvent stuff but I don't have any ideas for factory wires that which wires are for speakers, a speed sensor, a power and etc.
If I could get that wiring info, I might be able to get the double-din done by myself.
Any hepful info will be very appreciated.:thumbup:

ShaShaSha 11-29-2005 02:14 PM

The Kenwood model is an 8017.

As far as the vent modification. It definately would be easier to modify the vent than disable the heater. The issue is not with the heater. The issue is SPACE need to fit a double din. Thus, if you want to install a double din the IHKA housing must be modified. The biggest trick is planning and patientce.

The arm controlls the opening and closing of the floor vents. I suppose it would be possible to fabricate a new arm except the vents do not have the clearence for opening and closing once the IHKA hossing is modified. Therefore you will nedd to make a decesion on what to do with the floor vents. Whatever decision you make, remove the arm from both ends to minimize problem in the future.

ShaShaSha 11-29-2005 02:18 PM

Ithsa, The link below is a good starting point for how the factory system is put together and what colo codes the wires are.


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