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sycE46 03-09-2006 10:35 PM

Plasma or LCD?
 
I had my heart set on getting a plasma. But Sharp has a 45" LCD that's 1080P and it's only 4k. I was over at Frys, and it looked pretty good. But they only had it next to a couple of LCDs.

Anyone know how Sharp LCDs compare to panasonic / pioneer plasmas?

baller99 03-09-2006 10:40 PM

Plasma>lcd

trippinbillies4 03-09-2006 11:17 PM

With most 1080p sets on the market, the TV does not actually support a native 1080p input signal. This is true for not only the Sharp you are mentioning, but also for the ever popular SXRD rptv's, and Samsung and Mits dlp's. While the TV has a native resolution of 1080p, meaning anything you put into it gets scaled to 1080p, you cannot actually input a 1080p signal into it. The best you can input is 1080i.

Secondly, vertical resolution is one of the very last thing the eye notices when determining picture quality. High black levels mixed with a high contrast level will provide an almost 3D pop to a picture, which makes it look much sharper than increasing lines of resolution from 720p to 1080p.

That having been said, I feel that the Pioneer Elite is one of the better TV's on the market at this point. It is not only great out of the box, but is also set up for being ISF calibrated, which really provides a detailed image.

JC7727 03-10-2006 01:16 AM

In terms of LCD quaility, Sharp can't be beat.

E46M3Rod 03-10-2006 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JC7727
In terms of LCD quaility, Sharp can't be beat.

In terms of quality "and" price...I would say Sharp is hard to beat. However...the new Sony LCD's picture quality seems superior to that of Sharp. Sony has caught up. However....most don't believe the price difference is worth it.

Oh...and as of right now pertaining to picture quality...plasma > lcd.

slow323ci 03-10-2006 10:56 AM

I prefer plasma to LCD. Better blacks trump higher resolution every time.

Consider this - at 9' viewing distance and a 50" screen, the human eye is physically unable to see more detail than 720p. To be able to see all the detail in 1080 resolution on a 45" panel you'd have to sit about 3 feet away from it.

I have a 50" Panasonic plasma and it just continues to amaze me. Before I bought it I looked at every freaking flat-panel TV on the market between 42 and 50 inches. I looked at the 45" Sharp LCD because of the 1080p resolution but it was underwhelming in my opinion compared to even a mediocre plasma. Plus, after looking at a 50" panel anything smaller seemed too small.

'busa 03-29-2006 01:27 AM

slow323ci, what model Panasonic do you have? I have a TH42PX60U. Loving it so far, but the amount of information online and the burn-in horror stories have me a little scared.

slow323ci 03-29-2006 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by hayabusa55
slow323ci, what model Panasonic do you have? I have a TH42PX60U. Loving it so far, but the amount of information online and the burn-in horror stories have me a little scared.

I have the TH50PX50U. I'm very happy with it. I don't watch any channels that have fixed graphics, so I don't worry about burn in. I do play video games on it (using my media PC) but I never play for longer than a half hour because I rarely have that much time to waste! I did a 100 hour break in and calibration using the Avia DVD and everything looks good :thumbup:

outlawd94cobra 04-06-2006 12:49 PM

I would love to have a Plasma but the prices were a little steep for us @ the time when we needed a new TV and I kept hearing about the "life longevity of a Plasma" (5-7 years) compared to an LCD (9-12 years).... so we ended up running across this 55" in November of 05....

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1112808997121

as an Open-Box Display set for only $2300. After purchasing a stand and an extended warranty the total was just about 3k. Maybe I'll get one of the smaller size Plasma's for the kitchen since i've noticed some of the prices for Plasmas have increased dramatically.

zbeam3 04-06-2006 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by outlawd94cobra
I would love to have a Plasma but the prices were a little steep for us @ the time when we needed a new TV and I kept hearing about the "life longevity of a Plasma" (5-7 years) compared to an LCD (9-12 years).... so we ended up running across this 55" in November of 05....

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1112808997121

as an Open-Box Display set for only $2300. After purchasing a stand and an extended warranty the total was just about 3k. Maybe I'll get one of the smaller size Plasma's for the kitchen since i've noticed some of the prices for Plasmas have increased dramatically.


Longevity of a plasma is not understood by 95% of people. Most are good for 60,000 hours now, which is their half life brightness point.

Buying an open box TV is one of the worst decisions you can make. Those units are on 12+ hours a day, everyday. Unless you were getting it at more then a 50% discount I'd say it's not worth it.

outlawd94cobra 04-06-2006 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by zbeam3
Longevity of a plasma is not understood by 95% of people. Most are good for 60,000 hours now, which is their half life brightness point.

Buying an open box TV is one of the worst decisions you can make. Those units are on 12+ hours a day, everyday. Unless you were getting it at more then a 50% discount I'd say it's not worth it.

Sorry, what I meant by Open Box Display was it was out in the open on display but it wasn't on. It was a 1 week return by a customer who stated "it was just too big for his living area."

Although, i never did think of it that way with the actual DISPLAY TV's that go for sale.....those tv's are on 24/7. Plus, im still unsure of the true understanding regarding longevity's between the two. Advice i've been getting from sales guys from CC & BB all sometimes say "just wait a bit on a plasma until the prices drop more and when more manufacturers understand them,then they can finally make one that will last up to double digit years."

I really haven't had much time though to do my own research and come to my own conclusion.

zbeam3 04-06-2006 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by outlawd94cobra
Sorry, what I meant by Open Box Display was it was out in the open on display but it wasn't on. It was a 1 week return by a customer who stated "it was just too big for his living area."

Although, i never did think of it that way with the actual DISPLAY TV's that go for sale.....those tv's are on 24/7. Plus, im still unsure of the true understanding regarding longevity's between the two. Advice i've been getting from sales guys from CC & BB all sometimes say "just wait a bit on a plasma until the prices drop more and when more manufacturers understand them,then they can finally make one that will last up to double digit years."

I really haven't had much time though to do my own research and come to my own conclusion.

Ok, then that's not too bad for the display.

FYI, take Panasonic plasmas for example, they will last 20+ yrs when watched for 8 hrs a day, 7 days a week. And their prices have drop $500 on all models from 05 --> 06.

slow323ci 04-06-2006 01:38 PM

Current plasma TVs have rated life of 60,000 hours which is 8 hours a day, 7 days a week, for a little more than 20 years.

Consider that 2 years ago a 50" plasma was at least $10,000 and now they are $3500 that's a pretty nice drop in price.

99% of the sales people at BB and CC are clueless morons.

zbeam3 04-06-2006 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slow323ci
Current plasma TVs have rated life of 60,000 hours which is 8 hours a day, 7 days a week, for a little more than 20 years.

Consider that 2 years ago a 50" plasma was at least $10,000 and now they are $3500 that's a pretty nice drop in price.

99% of the sales people at BB and CC are clueless morons.

+1

Hey slow323ci, have you checked out the new 60U's? If so how do you think it stacks up compared to your 50U. I've seen them and the picture is great, the blacks are deep and the colors are vivid. I couldn't get a fair assessment since the feed they were connected to was weakened, HD picture was very pixelated. (It was that last TV on the HD line amp)

slow323ci 04-06-2006 02:41 PM

So far I've only seen photos of the 60U. I like the way the old 50U is styled better, but that's the only conclusion I've been able to make. When I saw the specs for the 60U the only thing that made me covet it a little bit was that it has 2 HDMI inputs vs. 1 with the 50U. But I don't even use the one I have on the 50U so that's not a big deal, at least at the moment.

'busa 04-06-2006 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zbeam3
+1

Hey slow323ci, have you checked out the new 60U's? If so how do you think it stacks up compared to your 50U. I've seen them and the picture is great, the blacks are deep and the colors are vivid. I couldn't get a fair assessment since the feed they were connected to was weakened, HD picture was very pixelated. (It was that last TV on the HD line amp)

I just recently got a TH42PX60U. I love it, but since I haven't seen 50U's prior to purchasing this one, I can't help you out much with the comparison.

Unveiled 04-06-2006 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baller99
Plasma>lcd

:rolleyes:

Red_wagen 04-06-2006 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baller99
Plasma>lcd

:werd:
I work in the industry (somewhat) and the people that test HDTVs for a living tell me that as of now, plasma > LCD.

Tutankhamon 04-06-2006 10:18 PM

I spent months looking at TV's almost on a daily basis. From what I've seen, plasma were superior than LCD's once you get into the bigger screen sizes (ie: 42" or higher).
I ended up purchasing a Pioneer Plasma TV and have never looked back. Picture quality quite simply can't be beat.

sycE46 04-09-2006 05:13 PM

I saw the new Panasonic 50" 60U at Magnolia A/V over the weekend. It looks okay... It just didn't look as good as the Pioneer that it was sitting next too. The sales guy said not much changed over the 2005 models besides the 2 HDMI inputs. He also he liked the picture quality on the old 50U / 500U more.


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