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tom @ eas 06-13-2006 10:37 AM

E46Fanatics Official DICE iPod integration kit Q/A thread
 
This thread will be for questions regarding the Dice iPod integration kit for your BMW. Questions regarding features, compatibility, installation and bug reports can be submitted to this thread.

http://www.europeanautosource.com/images/dice_main.jpg

Product Description:

Connect your iPod to your vehicle's factory entertainment system and hear what your iPod should sound like in your BMW. CD-quality sound and controls from your radio, steering wheel or the iPod. Always keeps your iPod charged and ready to go.

The DICE iPod integration kit will also display text from your iPod onto your BMWs radio/Navigation display allowing you to view Artist, Song title and Album name!

A clean factory looking installation is possible with our sleek iPod docking cable, allowing full connectivity for all iPods utilizing a dock connector.

Our hard-wired kit connects right to the cd changer connectors already present in your BMW. The DICE module transfers information between the iPod and radio through a dock cable or our upcoming video cradle.

New features of DICE iPod Integration kit include:

iPod is now fully unlocked while connected to DICE integration kit. You are allowed full access of your iPod's features as well as the following browsing options:

- Album Selection
- Song Selection
- Playlist Selection
- Chapter Selection (Audible/Audiobooks)

You can browse your iPod with the steering wheel, radio or Navigation buttons and the iPod (or any combination of the three) without booting into separate modes. Allowing the iPod to remain in "iPod UI" allows for the user to still rate songs and create "on the go" playlists.

AUX compatibility with user-adjustable Sound Output settings:

Connect any external audio device including: aftermarket satellite radio, CD/DVD players, non-Apple MP3 players and more! Bass, mid, treble and gain settings can be adjusted on the fly. These options allow for distortion-free audio input.

Selecting between audio from your iPod or AUX input is done with the press of a button on your radio.

- Volume Output (selectable 1-100)
- Bass (selectable 1-100)
- Midrange (selectable 1-100)
- Treble (selectable 1-100)

ID3 text output

- Features Song Title/Artist and Album information on your Navigation or Radio Display.

Charging Control

Charging of your iPod while in play, never have a dead iPod again!

Models Supported:

1996-2006 3-series, including M3 (not for i-Drive models)*
1997-2003 5-series, including M5
09/1998-2001 7 series
2004-2006 X3
2000-2006 X5
1996-2002 Z3, including M-Roadster/Coupe
2003-2006 Z4
2000-2003 Z8
2003-2006 Mini Cooper/Cooper S

* pre 1999 vehicles and Business Cassette do not have ID3 text support.

Compatible for both Navigation and Business CD/Cassette vehicles. Installation is simple for the DIY type and should take no longer than 90 minutes.

DICE installation supplement for BMW: http://support.diceelectronics.com/f...mw_install.pdf

DICE User instructions for BMW: http://support.diceelectronics.com/f...al_rev_B01.pdf

tom @ eas 06-14-2006 02:00 AM

Installation Tutorial in e46 Coupe: http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=374775

yubyub 06-21-2006 05:00 AM

Troubles w/'05 330xi w/Navi
 
Tom, I've had a few problems with the DICE in an '05 330xi w/Navi. I bought the unit from Dension USA.

- No text whatsoever. I can't get text anywhere, on any screen. I've tried all six tracks on disc 6, but no go. The only time I saw text was during the install - and that was, strangely enough, on the phone dialing screen and happened only once.

- After a track starts playing (i.e. after one track ends and another begins, or when I switch manually), I get a small gap of silence about 3 seconds into the song.

- Sometimes, the radio/navi shows track 80 instead of the correct track, and won't let me change tracks via the radio/steering wheel controls.

It's connected to an iPod Video 60GB, with firmware v1.1.1.

Did I install this incorrectly? All other features seem to work just fine (steering wheel, play/pause, charging, audio seems great, etc...).

Any help you can offer would be fantastic.

tom @ eas 06-21-2006 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yubyub
Tom, I've had a few problems with the DICE in an '05 330xi w/Navi. I bought the unit from Dension USA.

- No text whatsoever. I can't get text anywhere, on any screen. I've tried all six tracks on disc 6, but no go. The only time I saw text was during the install - and that was, strangely enough, on the phone dialing screen and happened only once.

- After a track starts playing (i.e. after one track ends and another begins, or when I switch manually), I get a small gap of silence about 3 seconds into the song.

- Sometimes, the radio/navi shows track 80 instead of the correct track, and won't let me change tracks via the radio/steering wheel controls.

It's connected to an iPod Video 60GB, with firmware v1.1.1.

Did I install this incorrectly? All other features seem to work just fine (steering wheel, play/pause, charging, audio seems great, etc...).

Any help you can offer would be fantastic.

I have yet to see one installed incorrectly, let's start with the basics. When was the kit purchased from DICE? I will also need the number below the barcode on the DICE module.

yubyub 06-21-2006 11:32 AM

The kit was purchased from Dension USA on 6/6/06 (maybe this is unlucky?).

The part number is I-BMW-T. The barcode reads A00014-0606. There was an additional number on the upper right hand corner of the label (dl-1002) that might or might not mean anything significant.

I didn't think that I installed it incorrectly either; I've got a decent EE background, and the install was as basic as it gets. Could've still made a stupid mistake, though I can't see how...

Thanks, Tom! I owe you virtual beers.

tom @ eas 06-21-2006 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yubyub
The kit was purchased from Dension USA on 6/6/06 (maybe this is unlucky?).

The part number is I-BMW-T. The barcode reads A00014-0606. There was an additional number on the upper right hand corner of the label (dl-1002) that might or might not mean anything significant.

I didn't think that I installed it incorrectly either; I've got a decent EE background, and the install was as basic as it gets. Could've still made a stupid mistake, though I can't see how...

Thanks, Tom! I owe you virtual beers.

The module's up to date, are all the DIP switches set to off? Activating text on the NAV-vehicles should be as simple as selecting CD #6 and going to track 5 or 6, depending on taste.

yubyub 06-21-2006 12:34 PM

The dip switches are off (I believe this is confirmed by the fact that I can control the iPod via the Navi/steering wheel AND the iPod itself - as I understand it [which hopefully is not incorrect], when the switches are on, it only works from the iPod).

Not sure if the module is up to date - are you stating that it's up to date, or asking? Sorry...

Once it was playing, I went to CD 6, and tried tracks 1 through 6 - all with the same results (no text).

What screen modes should I see the text on? I assumed that it should show on the CD info screen (which shows the disc + track number).

Could it just be a bad unit?

tom @ eas 06-21-2006 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yubyub
The dip switches are off (I believe this is confirmed by the fact that I can control the iPod via the Navi/steering wheel AND the iPod itself - as I understand it [which hopefully is not incorrect], when the switches are on, it only works from the iPod).

Not sure if the module is up to date - are you stating that it's up to date, or asking? Sorry...

Once it was playing, I went to CD 6, and tried tracks 1 through 6 - all with the same results (no text).

What screen modes should I see the text on? I assumed that it should show on the CD info screen (which shows the disc + track number).

Could it just be a bad unit?

The text can sometimes take about 5-10 seconds to appear upon activation, are you giving it time? If so, I would have to assume you need a replacement module - I would recommend contacting DICE to arrance replacement.

yubyub 06-21-2006 02:09 PM

Yep. My typical drive to work is 15-20 mins, during which I get nada.

Thanks, I'll go through this with the support (who haven't yet replied to me :-( ) and see what they say.

Thanks for double checking everything with me, Tom. I very much appreciate it.

tom @ eas 06-28-2006 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quickturtle
Hey guys,

So I ordered and installed my DICE module a couple of weeks ago. Overall, the installation was pretty easy and straight forward. About the toughest thing for me was to get to the battery.

The sound I thought was excellent...especially coming from the FM transmitter that I first tried. However, when I started to listen a bit closer in the last couple of days, I'm experiencing some annoying issues. Until reading this thread, I thought it was isolated to me. To date, I'm experiencing the following:

1. Low, but noticeable, clicking noise on ALL songs played. When I unplug the Ipod I still hear the little clicking sound.

Recheck your connections, something may be loose at the connection points, or it could be picking up inteference from other devices.

Quote:

Originally Posted by quickturtle
2. Air Conditioning blink problem mentioned by others.

This affects a small number of e46s out there. We have a firmware solution for this - we are testing right at the moment. Email me directly to be placed on the list to be notified when this is ready for release.

Quote:

Originally Posted by quickturtle
3. Low hissing sound during the entire song. Imaging running your index finger along a piece of paper or the table and thats similiar to what I hear. Funny thing here is that thie hissing will go away when I turn off the sound from the Ipod by touching the wheel counter-clockwise (0 volume level indicated on the Ipod), for about 2-3 seconds. Of course the sound comes back.

-Update-
When I noticed that the hissing sound corresponds to my backlight. I have set to 5 seconds, when the back light dims, the hissing starts. When I touched the Ipod wheel, it activates the light.

Thanks for the update, I've tried to replicated this on the test bench and 2 vehicles and couldn't hear anything. Do you have another iPod to see if you can replicate the problem with?

Quote:

Originally Posted by quickturtle
4. The text scrolling by will sometimes get stuck for a little bit. This is so minor I don't really care if it were fix.

I have:
2002 330 CI with the Business CD.
DICE Module
Ipod 5G 30gig

Any help or suggestion would greatly be appreciated!

Thanks,
Eddy C.

The text will freeze shortly at the end of text lines, this is normal. If its in the middle, I would try removing fuses #7 & #41 for a few minutes to reinitialize the system.

quickturtle 06-30-2006 05:17 PM

Tom,

I've verified my connections and have pulled the fuses that you have suggested only to find the same issues.

Regarding the clicking sound, I've plugged in another Ipod and still see the same thing. In fact, I still hearing clicking when NO Ipod is plugged.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks,
Eddy

tom @ eas 06-30-2006 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quickturtle
Tom,

I've verified my connections and have pulled the fuses that you have suggested only to find the same issues.

Regarding the clicking sound, I've plugged in another Ipod and still see the same thing. In fact, I still hearing clicking when NO Ipod is plugged.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks,
Eddy

It would make no sense that the clicking would be there without the DICE being used, does the noise disappear when the DICE is disconnected?

nyuk 07-01-2006 08:18 AM

Text but no sound from DICE Install
 
Thankfully I tested this before wiring the whole car but: I have an ipod Nano 4g and just got the DICE. Installed it last night according the directions - the text appears on the head-unit and will flip through the play lists appropriately but NO SOUND!..:bawling: ..I have tried the dip switches in DICE mode and ipod mode with no luck. The ipod itself will change playlists and tracks when controlled by the head unit or steering wheel....Any thoughts? :hmm:

The directions say that some ipod don't play sound from a dock connector? Is that true? If so, I wish I had seen that before I made the purchase.

Also, it says that the possible problem may be that the CDC or CD Changer needs to be activated? Is that true as well and anyone know how to do that?

My car is a 2000 323i with the standard BMW business radio w/in dash cd...

Thanks,
Joe Mac

tom @ eas 07-02-2006 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyuk
Thankfully I tested this before wiring the whole car but: I have an ipod Nano 4g and just got the DICE. Installed it last night according the directions - the text appears on the head-unit and will flip through the play lists appropriately but NO SOUND!..:bawling: ..I have tried the dip switches in DICE mode and ipod mode with no luck. The ipod itself will change playlists and tracks when controlled by the head unit or steering wheel....Any thoughts? :hmm:

The directions say that some ipod don't play sound from a dock connector? Is that true? If so, I wish I had seen that before I made the purchase.

Also, it says that the possible problem may be that the CDC or CD Changer needs to be activated? Is that true as well and anyone know how to do that?

My car is a 2000 323i with the standard BMW business radio w/in dash cd...

Thanks,
Joe Mac

Joe,

CD Changers needing to be "activated" and the inability of sounding coming through the iPod dock connector is false. This isn't a problem with the DICE, but the iPod itself.

This sometimes this happens only with the nano where the dock connector isn't fully unlocked. Reboot the iPod with the MENU and center buttons held down for +5 seconds and reconnect after the reboot process is completed.

Give this a try and see if this corrects the problem.

edwin814 07-02-2006 06:35 PM

Tom,

bought the Dice for Nav from you. When I turn on the ignition, text on Dice will SOMETIMES disappear/disabled. So I would have to reactivate text display again. Is this a glitch or is it normal?

tom @ eas 07-02-2006 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edwin814
Tom,

bought the Dice for Nav from you. When I turn on the ignition, text on Dice will SOMETIMES disappear/disabled. So I would have to reactivate text display again. Is this a glitch or is it normal?

It could be an initialization problem.

Try removing fuses #7 & #41 from the glovebox fuse panel and reinstalling after a few minutes if this step wasn't performed when the kit was first installed.

nyuk 07-03-2006 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom @ eas
Joe,

CD Changers needing to be "activated" and the inability of sounding coming through the iPod dock connector is false. This isn't a problem with the DICE, but the iPod itself.

This sometimes this happens only with the nano where the dock connector isn't fully unlocked. Reboot the iPod with the MENU and center buttons held down for +5 seconds and reconnect after the reboot process is completed.

Give this a try and see if this corrects the problem.


Thanks for responding so soon. I tried rebooting. I tried removing fuses 7 & 41 for approx 15m. I even tried to access the aux output through disk 5, track 2... no luck...Any other suggestions? I opened a support ticker with DICE website... Thanks again.

tom @ eas 07-03-2006 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyuk
Thanks for responding so soon. I tried rebooting. I tried removing fuses 7 & 41 for approx 15m. I even tried to access the aux output through disk 5, track 2... no luck...Any other suggestions? I opened a support ticker with DICE website... Thanks again.

Do you have a friend with an iPod you can test on the system? this will determine whether the problem is iPod or DICE-related.

blorax 07-03-2006 06:35 PM

A/C Blink Fixed?
 
Hey Tom,

I just spoke with Lazlo at Dice today about my A/C blink problem. He told me that the thought the problem had been corrected. When I asked him how recently, he said maybe a week ago.

Someone is supposed to contact me again after the holiday for another replacement unit (this will be my fourth).

Just wanted to check with you - have there been any recent firmware updates purporting to correct the A/C blink that you know of?

tom @ eas 07-03-2006 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blorax
Hey Tom,

I just spoke with Lazlo at Dice today about my A/C blink problem. He told me that the thought the problem had been corrected. When I asked him how recently, he said maybe a week ago.

Someone is supposed to contact me again after the holiday for another replacement unit (this will be my fourth).

Just wanted to check with you - have there been any recent firmware updates purporting to correct the A/C blink that you know of?

Yes, we have notified everyone that had signed up on our list for the new update. We have been testing for about a week - to the best of my knowledge, the problem is now fixed.

We work with the field testing for DICE as well. ;)


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