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yellowssm 09-13-2008 01:30 PM

To the HPF guys, what brand racing fuel are you using?
 
I know the normal that most people use is VP racing 110 leaded and Sunocco "the standard" which is there 110 leaded.

The cheapest place in town I found sells Rockett Brand racing fuel and it is 111 leaded and it is almost $1 cheaper a gallon than VP.

Here is a link to the Rockett Brand racing fuels:
http://www.rockettbrand.com/productspecs/specs.html

Will this be ok to use?

Here are the stats of all three brands:

VP 110 leaded
Color: Purple
MON: 107
RON 113
R+M/2 = 110
Specific Gravity: .720-.735 @ 60 F

Rockett 111 leaded
Color: Red
MON: 106
RON 116
R+M/2 = 111
Specific Gravity: .726 @ 60 F

Sunocco "the standard" 110 leaded
Color: Purple
MON: 105
RON 115
R+M/2 = 110
Specific Gravity: .728 @ 60 F

OCswedishM3 09-13-2008 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowss, (Post 8527204)
I know the normal that most people use is VP racing 110 leaded and Sunocco "the standard" which is there 110 leaded.

The cheapest place in town I found sells Rockett Brand racing fuel and it is 111 leaded and it is almost $1 cheaper a gallon than VP.

Here is a link to the Rockett Brand racing fuels:
http://www.rockettbrand.com/productspecs/specs.html

Will this be ok to use?

Here are the stats of all three brands:

VP 110 leaded
Color: Purple
MON: 107
RON 113
R+M/2 = 110
Specific Gravity: .720-.735 @ 60 F

Rockett 111 leaded
Color: Red
MON: 106
RON 116
R+M/2 = 111
Specific Gravity: .726 @ 60 F

Sunocco "the standard" 110 leaded
Color: Purple
MON: 105
RON 115
R+M/2 = 110
Specific Gravity: .728 @ 60 F

Vp is overrated. The best brand is Sunoco, and it is cheaper. Never heard of rockett before. Why dont you run Sunoco GT+. It is unleaded and will provide just as much protection as 110 leaded(and more power). And wont destroy your o2 sensors.

gasser 09-13-2008 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OCswedishM3 (Post 8527246)
Vp is overrated. The best brand is Sunoco, and it is cheaper. Never heard of rockett before. Why dont you run Sunoco GT+. It is unleaded and will provide just as much protection as 110 leaded(and more power). And wont destroy your o2 sensors.

The race gas setup for the HPF cars requires minimum 110oct. GT+ is only 104oct and won't provide as much protection as 110. It will give you some more power b/c it is oxygenated, but that is usually due to it leaning you out some. More octane (leaded gas) will keep the detonation issues down, allowing more timing, but does kill the O2 sensors. I ran 5-10 gallons of leaded through my Audi S4 all the time and just made sure to dilute it with unleaded after I was done having fun. I probably ran 100+gallons of leaded through it and NO issues with my sensors. I data-logged every 1/4 mile run and tuning session and the sensors would react slower for a few days, then they would be ok again. I know it would eventually kill them, but it is the price to pay for being able to turn up the boost and keep the timing high. Just my 2cents....

yellowssm 09-13-2008 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OCswedishM3 (Post 8527246)
Vp is overrated. The best brand is Sunoco, and it is cheaper. Never heard of rockett before. Why dont you run Sunoco GT+. It is unleaded and will provide just as much protection as 110 leaded(and more power). And wont destroy your o2 sensors.

I havent found any places here in vegas that sells sunocco.


Quote:

Originally Posted by gasser (Post 8527297)
The race gas setup for the HPF cars requires minimum 110oct. GT+ is only 104oct and won't provide as much protection as 110. It will give you some more power b/c it is oxygenated, but that is usually due to it leaning you out some. More octane (leaded gas) will keep the detonation issues down, allowing more timing, but does kill the O2 sensors. I ran 5-10 gallons of leaded through my Audi S4 all the time and just made sure to dilute it with unleaded after I was done having fun. I probably ran 100+gallons of leaded through it and NO issues with my sensors. I data-logged every 1/4 mile run and tuning session and the sensors would react slower for a few days, then they would be ok again. I know it would eventually kill them, but it is the price to pay for being able to turn up the boost and keep the timing high. Just my 2cents....

I see you are in vegas, Have you seen 110 leaded around? Preferbly on the west side of town.

OCswedishM3 09-13-2008 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowss, (Post 8527349)
I havent found any places here in vegas that sells sunocco.




I see you are in vegas, Have you seen 110 leaded around? Preferbly on the west side of town.

PM me and i'll give you the number to my wholesale account. You can only order 55gallon drums though , so you would have to store it in your garage or in your backyard. If i were you i would order the Sunoco 112 leaded.

pastE36prsntE46 09-13-2008 04:10 PM

What is the approximate price per gallon?

yellowssm 09-13-2008 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pastE36prsntE46 (Post 8527703)
What is the approximate price per gallon?

I found VP 110 for a little over $8 a gallon and Rockett Brand 111 for $7.25 a gallon. The only problem is I have to drive 40 minutes to get the VP and the Rockett Brand is 5 minutes away.

funkboy316 09-13-2008 04:19 PM

i use the sunoco 112 leaded.

gasser 09-13-2008 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowss, (Post 8527733)
I found VP 110 for a little over $8 a gallon and Rockett Brand 111 for $7.25 a gallon. The only problem is I have to drive 40 minutes to get the VP and the Rockett Brand is 5 minutes away.

Hey Ray, it's me Brian from down the street, this is just a different screen name than I use on the other forum. Where did you find the Rockett fuel so close? Just use that stuff, cheaper and closer. I know of plenty of people that have used it and works just fine. Also, just FYI, Sunoco and Turbo Blue are the same gas, just different names. I am wondering if Rockett is the same gas as someone else?????

yellowssm 09-14-2008 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gasser (Post 8527916)
Hey Ray, it's me Brian from down the street, this is just a different screen name than I use on the other forum. Where did you find the Rockett fuel so close? Just use that stuff, cheaper and closer. I know of plenty of people that have used it and works just fine. Also, just FYI, Sunoco and Turbo Blue are the same gas, just different names. I am wondering if Rockett is the same gas as someone else?????

Its sold at rebel oil on sahara and the 15, right by cheetas :pimpin:
I talked to Chris at hpf and he said make sure its 110 motor octane. He suggested vp and sunocco only.

rmz 09-14-2008 09:26 PM

Torco 110 Leaded (from the pump, at a local station :) ) @ $6.75/gal

tankm3 09-14-2008 09:45 PM

Rockett 111 here. :thumbsup:

yellowssm 09-15-2008 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tankm3 (Post 8531867)
Rockett 111 here. :thumbsup:

Perfect, finally someone that uses it. Im on my way to the pump. :)


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