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silentak1 10-19-2008 03:24 AM

Which RTAB would you buy?
 
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I need to replace my RTAB's and am having some trouble finding the sturdiest one of all:

Lemfoerder PN 33326770786
http://www.koperformance.com/online_...art_181828.jpg
(Half/Half casings)

Lemfoerder PN 33322228153
http://www.autohausaz.com/secure/Par...3322228153.jpg
(Single casing)

OEM M3 PN 33326770817
http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...33326770817-M9

Meyle PN 33322228153
http://12.153.160.115/images/catalog...entid=bmaparts


I'm noticing that there are models with "split casing/housing" and others in "full casing/housings". See attachment... I'm guessing that the full housing will retain the rear-toe more in spec during heavy cornering and acceleration?

I don't want a flimsy floating feeling, what is the recommended RTAB?

Thanks

TX 10-19-2008 03:51 AM

UUC urethane RTAB!

Hrvat 10-19-2008 09:36 AM

Get a E46 M3 RTAB from www.autohausaz.com

TxZHP04 10-19-2008 10:26 AM

I would highly recommend either the OEM M3 or the Meyle HD, part # 3003332104/HD, which uses a similar construction. Note that this Meyle part number is different than the one you listed above - not sure but that may be the old BMW part number that you listed. The flanged design is the older design that BMW has moved away from, the split casing is the newer design. When installed, the 2 halves of the casing are squeezed together compressing, and stiffening, the rubber interior.

You won't have a flimsy floaty feeling with either of the above recommended new bushings but if you want additional toe control that will also help the bushings last longer, I would also recommend that you pair them with a set of Vorshlag limiters:
http://www.vorshlag.com/product_info...products_id=59

I'm running these limiters with OEM M3 bushings and it's a great setup.

silentak1 10-19-2008 12:17 PM

I think I will go for the Meyle HD (3003332104) and as backup the OEM M3 (33326770817). The UUC's are just too stiff for my huse and I don't want to deal with the possibility of creaks.

For some reason, autohausaz.com only shows me the Lemfoerder M3 bushings and not the OEM ones. Does anyone have recommended places for the Meyle HD RTAB's?

jpr 10-19-2008 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by silentak1 (Post 8713170)
I think I will go for the Meyle HD (3003332104) and as backup the OEM M3 (33326770817). The UUC's are just too stiff for my huse and I don't want to deal with the possibility of creaks.

For some reason, autohausaz.com only shows me the Lemfoerder M3 bushings and not the OEM ones. Does anyone have recommended places for the Meyle HD RTAB's?

I'd recommend the lemforder M3's over the Meyle.

kpeng 10-19-2008 12:27 PM

Meyle HDs with the Turner Motorsport Limiter kit.

I have this setup and I love it.

silentak1 10-19-2008 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TxZHP04 (Post 8712959)
I would also recommend that you pair them with a set of Vorshlag limiters:
http://www.vorshlag.com/product_info...products_id=59

I'm running these limiters with OEM M3 bushings and it's a great setup.

For the Vorshlag limiters, are these just plastic washers that go at the ends of the RTAB's WITHOUT any drilling?

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Originally Posted by jpr (Post 8713184)
I'd recommend the lemforder M3's over the Meyle.

Thanks jpr. PelicanParts shows the Lemforder M3 bushing as the old PN 33322228153 and the old single piece housing. What do you think?

http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...3322228153-M69


And the OEM M3 from PelicanParts (33326770817)
http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/...33326770817-M9

Hrvat 10-19-2008 12:49 PM

www.autohausaz.com has M3 RTABs. That's where i got mine from

TxZHP04 10-19-2008 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by silentak1 (Post 8713244)
For the Vorshlag limiters, are these just plastic washers that go at the ends of the RTAB's WITHOUT any drilling?



Thanks jpr. PelicanParts shows the Lemforder M3 bushing as the old PN 33322228153 and the old single piece housing. What do you think?


And the OEM M3 from PelicanParts (33326770817)

The Vorshlag limiters require no drilling, they just wedge into place. IIRC, they are also quite a bit cheaper than the Turner limiters and every bit as effective.

Don't get the old style one-piece flanged bushing. I ordered the new style M3 bushing directly from Tischer.

jpr 10-19-2008 06:35 PM

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I'm with TxZHP04 on this, might as well get the new style (the -817) bushings. Attached is what the ETK shows for part number history on the M3 RTAB's

silentak1 10-19-2008 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TxZHP04 (Post 8713348)
The Vorshlag limiters require no drilling, they just wedge into place. IIRC, they are also quite a bit cheaper than the Turner limiters and every bit as effective.

Don't get the old style one-piece flanged bushing. I ordered the new style M3 bushing directly from Tischer.

Thanks, just placed my order for the Vorshlag limiters.

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Originally Posted by jpr (Post 8714605)
I'm with TxZHP04 on this, might as well get the new style (the -817) bushings. Attached is what the ETK shows for part number history on the M3 RTAB's

Thanks jpr. I'll look for the newer model -817.

n2Bimmer 10-20-2008 01:14 AM

OEM M3 RTAB with shims/ limiters.

ryyster 10-20-2008 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by n2Bimmer (Post 8716654)
OEM M3 RTAB with shims/ limiters.

Good choice

SilvaBimma 10-20-2008 08:59 PM

What about Powerflex RTAB? Don't the M3 RTABs breakdown overtime, like usual OEM e46 RTABs?

silentak1 10-20-2008 09:04 PM

Thanks for the suggestions. I placed my order with Ruben at DesertMotorWorks.

The Powerflex are just a tad too stiff for my daily drive (about 100-150 miles per day).

TxZHP04 10-20-2008 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SilvaBimma (Post 8722412)
What about Powerflex RTAB? Don't the M3 RTABs breakdown overtime, like usual OEM e46 RTABs?

Yes, and powerflex squeak requiring them to be lubed periodically. Either way, you have routine maintenance. I've had urethane RTABs and switched back to OEM M3 bushings with limiters and feel this is the superior solution.

jpr 10-20-2008 09:23 PM

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Regarding the orientation of the slot, here's the TIS instruction on bushing replacement.

silentak1 10-20-2008 09:27 PM

:hmm: I must be a little slow today... can't tell if the orientation is vertical, horizontal, or slightly at 70 degrees compared to flat ground.

GRIDLOCK 10-20-2008 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by silentak1 (Post 8722448)
Thanks for the suggestions. I placed my order with Ruben at DesertMotorWorks.


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