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n3985 01-29-2009 11:29 AM

Anyone with experience in install TV wall mount can help me out?
 
Couple weeks ago the gf and I attempted to install her wall mount for her Panny plasma. We bought one of those $10 stud finders from Home Depot and went to work locating the studs.

The general area where the TV will go on the wall is approx 3-4 ft from a corner to the right if facing the wall. So obv there will be a stud at the corner, which we confirmed with the finder. The next stud we found was 20" to the left of the corner, adding in the width of the 2x4s we figure her building for some reason has studs 24" apart. Moving to the next stud (which would be the left mounting point of the wall mount), we found another 20" away...but when we went to confirm the stud didn't exist 12" below? It was as if the wall had half a stud, is this possible?

While we tried to figure this out we called the building engineer who told us the studs were standard 16" apart (!!???). When we showed him the findings of the stud finder, he pretty much ended the convo with they are 16" apart trust me.

Ideas? Tips? Go back and buy a better a stud finder? :lmao:

GlockMan 01-29-2009 11:34 AM

You should be able to tap and hear the difference. If not, buy the most expensive stud finder you can at lowes or home depot. If you find you have no need for it, you can return it. hint hint.

If you know the TV is going to be mounted covering a certain area, take a small screw driver and poke a hole where you think there is a stud. Worse case, you have a few tiny holes or patches behind the tv you cant see.

If you have never done this before, I would go ahead and cut the dry wall off the stud so that you can see the stud itself. This little 1"x1" hole will guarantee you that you hit the center of each stud properly.

Anything can be fixed later, except your TV falling off the wall.

ryanwhite74115 01-29-2009 11:46 AM

tru dat, television falling off the wall is generally speaking a no go

blownE30M3 01-29-2009 12:35 PM

You don't need a top of the line stud finer and you don't need to cut a hole.

Use a small screwdriver (eyeglass or watch) and poke through the drywall where you think the stud is located. You can tell by the resistance if it is a stud or not.

GlockMan 01-29-2009 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by blownE30M3 (Post 9317741)
You don't need a top of the line stud finer and you don't need to cut a hole.

Use a small screwdriver (eyeglass or watch) and poke through the drywall where you think the stud is located. You can tell by the resistance if it is a stud or not.

Pretty sure I said that.

He is going to have to poke holes on each side of the stud to find the edges anyway. Why not cut the hole to make sure he is doing something correctly that he has never done before?

blownE30M3 01-29-2009 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by glockman9c (Post 9318434)
Pretty sure I said that.

He is going to have to poke holes on each side of the stud to find the edges anyway. Why not cut the hole to make sure he is doing something correctly that he has never done before?

Just something else to patch later. Better no holes then one right?

And OP, stud finders can be finnicky. You need to try a bunch of times to make sure.

'busa 01-29-2009 02:18 PM

I had to find metal studs and I cut out decent size holes to see exactly what I'm working with. Granted, I had to paint anyways, so patching and painting made the cuts invisible.

grkm3 02-03-2009 05:23 PM

You should cut a piece out of the sheetrock wall and install additional wood blocking where the mount will be installed. Metal studs can be quite scary if no extra blocking is installed.

GlockMan 02-03-2009 09:21 PM

No matter what...

Do NOT go to CEDIA.org and find a qualified tech.

Do NOT do it.

DON'T!

Just move an old mattress to under the TV just in case it falls.

n3985 02-03-2009 09:40 PM

So if I was to hire a pro to do it (remove liability from myself lol)...where should I go and how much should I expect to pay? Best Buy Geek Squad (only for reference unles they are pretty good?) charges ~$200?

GlockMan 02-03-2009 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by n3985 (Post 9346653)
So if I was to hire a pro to do it (remove liability from myself lol)...where should I go and how much should I expect to pay? Best Buy Geek Squad (only for reference unles they are pretty good?) charges ~$200?

Best Buy Installation Sucks (from what I have seen)

A good company will charge you between $50-$100 per labor hour. We charge $100 trip charge plus $100 per labor hour for installation or $75 per labor hour if we are selling you the system. I have no idea what you job needs. An average job of hanging a TV on a normal wall and running the wire (CL2/CL3) through the wall would be between 3 and 6 labor hours depending on the situation and gear involved. So $300-$600 plus wire. NOT including power. Average electrician would charge between $100-$300 to add an outlet depending on where it was being tapped from.

So $400-$900 for a normal install with normal equipment plus wire costs.

My Liability insurance alone is $3000 per year. There is a reason.

Below is my house. I could have slapped this TV up in 2 hours, it took 2 days. Why? Because its a $7K 63" Plasma next to $4K speakers. It is the main wall of my living room. I have studs, I have two center channels, the TV weighs 200lbs. It took for ever just to measure it all out right so the speakers could fit between the studs and still have proper equal spacing, etc.

I have two HDMIs, two componets, four RG6s, etc. All had to be run properly 50 ft. Power is run through the house so it shares the same ground as my equipment rack, etc, etc, etc.

Expierence counts and it costs.

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n3985 02-03-2009 10:02 PM

Hmm that's more than expected, her apt is a studio, with a big dresser "under" the TV....where the TV is sitting on right now. There is an outlet right beneath where the TV would go, and no wiring needed since we're using a HDMI switcher with a single wire going to the TV. So in summary, just need the actual mount installed. Do you think it will still be +$400?

GlockMan 02-03-2009 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by n3985 (Post 9346822)
Hmm that's more than expected, her apt is a studio, with a big dresser "under" the TV....where the TV is sitting on right now. There is an outlet right beneath where the TV would go, and no wiring needed since we're using a HDMI switcher with a single wire going to the TV. So in summary, just need the actual mount installed. Do you think it will still be +$400?

You could probably find a qualified tech for $200 cash if is under 50" (1 man). No one worth a darn is going to drive to you to make less. Gas, Insurance, Traffic, Time, Tools, Liability, etc.

n3985 02-03-2009 10:32 PM

Wow nice system in your house, thanks for the info. No record player though? Went to Chicago few weeks ago to pick up a Brinkman LaGrange turn table for my parents, OT but any opinions on it since AV is your profession?

GlockMan 02-03-2009 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by n3985 (Post 9347030)
Wow nice system in your house, thanks for the info. No record player though? Went to Chicago few weeks ago to pick up a Brinkman LaGrange turn table for my parents, OT but any opinions on it since AV is your profession?

Honestly, turntables are a whole other area that I do not even attempt to get into. When I see a turn table, it is either $50, or $5000. Turntable people are their own cult.


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