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roddykaregaran 02-24-2009 12:31 AM

Does your BMW have Bluetooth? (BMW Bluetooth FAQ/Info)
 
Hey guys, I have seen a lot of threads about whether or not "my car has bluetooth". I have basically piled together a rundown of what I have learned trying to figure out my own bluetooth configuration. Ive been to BMW and back several times, solely regarding this issue -- because I have had different answers (believe it or not).

///BMW BLUETOOTH FAQ

This should answer a lot of people's questions on BMW* bluetooth
*3 SERIES (E46) UNITED STATES MODELS ONLY
If your production year is below 2004, forget about even having the possibility of there ever being a bluetooth system set up in your vehicle (from BMW).

general | QUESTION 1
why on earth I have bluetooth buttons on my steering wheel and icons on the bottom of my trunk lid?

In Europe, bluetooth has been around much longer than United States, whereas we just began incorporating bluetooth into U.S. model vehicles up to a few years ago. As far as the icon/logo under your trunk lid, basically ever car that has our BMW U.S. steering wheels have that icon there, once again, because European bluetooth technology was more advanced at the time.

BMW North America began incorporating their bluetooth system starting in 2004 production date* models and beyond, as an add-on option to be able to buy a module that will be compatible with your current wiring system. Now dont get me wrong, if you have a 2004 3 series* (or '03 sedan facelift in some cases depending on your month of production) you most likely still dont have bluetooth (Your radio should essentially read "PHONEBOOK EMPTY" when you click your phone button on the steering wheel) unless your previous owner went out of his way to add an expensive option. You were able to buy a module from BMW for cheaper (retail est. $300) than the entire wiring system set up (retail est. $800-$1000) for the 2004 models*. Unfortunately the key word here is WERE. They discontinued production of this item a couple years ago. The only way you will find your 2004 module is if your BMW dealership has any left in stock, or you buy it used/new from another source that carries their products (i.e. La Jolla Audio in San Diego, CA)


general | QUESTION 2
I can access "BMW ASSIST" through my car though... doesnt this mean I have bluetooth?

No. Unfortunately this is not the case. Yes it is weird that they have enabled some way of reaching out to other people through your car, but this does not mean you have bluetooth. For example, the other day I pressed my SOS button underneath my mirror. It lead me to an automated voice message center telling me that I am not subscribed to this service. To end the call you can say "Goodbye", or say "Renew" to speak to a BMW Assist representative. I said "Renew" and it lead me to an actual person who informed me on pricing and other package options. It was kind of cool to hear all of this through my Harmon/Kardon speakers, but was unfortunate that I knew for a fact I dont have bluetooth. Just to make sure, I called another BMW service rep, and they confirmed my case.


general | QUESTION 3
So which 3 series' even have bluetooth?

Basically production date of 2005* and above (and, if I am not mistaken, 08/04). Yes, it is awkward that they only created two years of prewired, factory enabled, standard bluetooth for only two years on the e46, but this is just the way they wanted it. If you have a 2005, you should be able to click the phonebook button, and have your radio/nav display something like "Passcode". For this, you just go to BMW and they will give you your designated passcode so you can connect your phone. When clicking the phone button on your steering wheel, any e46 3 Series* on and below the production year of 2003 should give no action to your radio deck, obviously, which means you dont have bluetooth, nor did you ever have wiring for it in the first place from BMW.


OTHER QUICK INFO
The downside to not even having the capability of inputting BMW's bluetooth set up into your car (if you have an 03 and below) is that you can not even buy it from BMW. The fact is, they never made it*. It just wont be compatible if you tried to use any other BMW OEM bluetooth system for your car.

The upside, is that you can buy pretty neat after party oem look-alike modules for your vehicle, theres a few out there, you just have to look for the one that suits you best; (try BSW, I have heard a lot about theirs).

If you have an 04 production year, good luck finding the module to fit your car. Your car has the other set up BMW used with only their 2004 models, which their module would enabled, if they hadn't discontinue it.


FINAL RUNDOWN
- 05/06 year models have BMW prewired as a standard feature* for bluetooth.
- 04 models are capable of having bluetooth, but only with the BMW module, which has been discontinued.
- 99-03 models are not capable (excluding some 03 models, i.e. facelift sedan) of having any time of BMW OEM bluetooth system. You can purchase after party instead; try bsw. The bluetooth button on the steering wheel is there because the European bluetooth technology was more advanced at the time of your car's production date (i.e. 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003).

Some recommended vendors:
- Bavarian Soundwerks
- European Auto Source

Some tested bluetooth loopholes:
- Buy OEM parts separate and put together yourself
- Install your double din nav w/ bluetooth

I am sure theres much more out there. Here are just some of them I have seen and thought they are pretty cool.

Hope this helps anybody that had any questions about their car and BMW Bluetooth! :) If you have any questions, or if I forgot something, please feel free to PM me.

Kisorsosay 08-17-2011 07:21 PM

Yeah my e46 325xi production date 03/04 has all three at the bottom of my trunk. Pre wired for bluetooth, garage door and cd player. I don't have anything but premium sound in my system. No sport or luxury package. So I take it that I don't physically have these items "prewired" in my system then?

Zell 08-17-2011 07:29 PM

:clap: Thank you, I've just been trying to figure this out myself.

Now, here's where I am confused: I've got Assist. According to my VIN run, I have this:

"0639 BMW Assist with Bluetooth"

My phone does not see my car when I turn it on, and I cannot pair it. Do I not have Bluetooth, even though my car has the option? My production date was 03/2004

ac_2007 08-17-2011 07:31 PM

Bluetooth causes cancer.

flashmeow 08-17-2011 08:09 PM

I have a 323i and I have the bmw Bluetooth system ;)
Retrofitted the system with oem components. No programming required. The key is to get latest TCU.
Good luck

sent from HTC EVO

Kisorsosay 08-17-2011 08:15 PM

On the roof of the inside of the car there is a little vent by the moon roof button. I believe if you remove the entire ceiling part you can tell right away if your car is blue tooth ready. If there isn't a rectangle shaped part on top of the speaker then you don't have it. I'm assuming that being pre-wired as my car tells me and after cheating on you guys (beamerfest) that the wiring is there but not the actual parts. "plug and play" for OEM. I'm going to try to stay OEM as flash has but what is the "TCU" as you mentioned? So you bought newer OEM parts and just retro fitted them to your 323i? Any DIY work on it by chance?

flashmeow 08-18-2011 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kisorsosay (Post 13493937)
On the roof of the inside of the car there is a little vent by the moon roof button. I believe if you remove the entire ceiling part you can tell right away if your car is blue tooth ready. If there isn't a rectangle shaped part on top of the speaker then you don't have it. I'm assuming that being pre-wired as my car tells me and after cheating on you guys (beamerfest) that the wiring is there but not the actual parts. "plug and play" for OEM. I'm going to try to stay OEM as flash has but what is the "TCU" as you mentioned? So you bought newer OEM parts and just retro fitted them to your 323i? Any DIY work on it by chance?

I meant to say ULF. it is nothing more than the control module for your bluetooth (the brain)

http://www.bimmernav.com/ulfchanges.html

enzeine 11-13-2011 09:56 PM

I have a 2004 with the pre-wire badges on the trunk for bluetooth. I can press the steering wheel button and get a dial tone with an automated Verizon voice that tells me I need to get service (something like that).

Also, I have a pass code on a card in the phone supplement of my manual. I am guessing that I have bluetooth and simply need to pair it.

Let me know what you think.

enzeine 11-30-2011 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enzeine (Post 13795665)
I have a 2004 with the pre-wire badges on the trunk for bluetooth. I can press the steering wheel button and get a dial tone with an automated Verizon voice that tells me I need to get service (something like that).

Also, I have a pass code on a card in the phone supplement of my manual. I am guessing that I have bluetooth and simply need to pair it.

Let me know what you think.

I found a TCU unit at my local dealer (part #84109195455). I got it paired, but I am guessing I don't have an antenna and need to get one. I paired the bluetooth by placing my phone next to the module. My car already had the microphone with the assist from the last module.

lsteg 11-30-2011 08:25 AM

this seems sticky worthy

SPDSKTR 11-30-2011 08:27 AM

2001 330Ci with Bluetooth. Thank you, Parrot.

SpoonerDee 11-30-2011 09:31 AM

You can either do as suggested which is pull down the panel near the moon roof button, if there is a mic there, you have it.

Or

Go into your trunk, pull back the lining on the left side (driver side) and look for the module it self. Also if you have it but no card with the pass code DO NOT GO TO THE DEALER FOR THE PASS CODE.

Simply unbolt the bluetooth module flip it upside down and bam there is your code. Dont pay the dealer for 1 hour labor to hook up the computer to read it.

Also if you have software for your car (to do coding) you can pull the code your self.

Once you have the code, push the R/T button and make sure your phone is searching for bluetooth, Enter the code and let it sync your phone book and enjoy the luxury of life.

I just went through this whole adventure a few months ago.

MrBourne 12-23-2011 05:37 PM

I am pretty stumped here. I would appreciate any help you can provide! Here's the background:

~2005 325i (08/04 build)
~has sport, premium, and cold weather packages
~has the R/T and "speaking person" buttons on the steering wheel
~when I push R/T, the display shows "phonebook empty"
~I have a bluetooth passkey card with the passkey circled
~However, I did not find the bluetooth connect button in the glove box

So I am assuming (and hoping) that I do have bluetooth in my car. It is definitely wired...I pulled that little vent thingy to the right of the moonroof button out and it has a little black box.

So am I missing something? I can't get my iPhone 4s to even see the BMW bluetooth.

I appreciate any advice or help you can give! Maybe my car has bluetooth prewired but it isn't set up or something? Thanks!

as if 01-15-2012 10:42 PM

MrBourne, did you fin an answer as I am in the same boat?

as if 01-15-2012 10:46 PM

I have the passkey, the speaking man does nothing, and when R/T is pressed, it says "phone book empty. My Samsung does not find BMW. My 2005 325xi tells me in the trunk that it is prewired. I am stumped. Help anyone??

MrBourne 01-16-2012 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by as if (Post 13982755)
MrBourne, did you fin an answer as I am in the same boat?

Negative. I guess I should just talk to a dealer/mechanic. Maybe they can help.

ElrichMeister 01-16-2012 03:35 AM

man i got an 06 doesnt have any labels on the trunk, and nothing happens when i push the speaking man or R/T =(

samson 01-16-2012 03:42 AM

for what it's worth... my 05 330i premium/sport has bluetooh + assist, and you will not have the connect button in the center console. Just follow the pairing instructions in the bt booklet, and you're golden. You must follow the steps exactly as it says, otherwise the BMW module will not be visible to the phone. It did take me several attempts to correctly pair the phone.

ElrichMeister 01-16-2012 04:09 AM

so i just looked in the compartment where the microphone is located, and it doesnt have anything there, so im guessing i have no wiring for bluetooth

trive2 01-16-2012 04:18 AM

I would LOVE a list of compatible devices for the bluetooth in these.


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