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Riverbmr3 08-27-2009 03:36 PM

Gun noob
 
Hi fanatics,
Im scared by the increased of burglaries around neighboorhood and thinking of buying a gun for home/self defense. Any recommendations on what kind of guns fits on my size and purpose? Im 5'4" 160 pounder. This will be my first time to really keep a gun, so, Do I need to go on training/shooting class. any recommendation from you guys will be appreciated. Thanks..

david05111 08-27-2009 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pinoybmr3 (Post 10527043)
Hi fanatics,
Im scared by the increased of burglaries around neighboorhood and thinking of buying a gun for home/self defense. Any recommendations on what kind of guns fits on my size and purpose? Im 5'4" 160 pounder. This will be my first time to really keep a gun, so, Do I need to go on training/shooting class. any recommendation from you guys will be appreciated. Thanks..

Where do you live first of all? Best for home defense for a "noob" is probably a shotgun, either a Mossberg 500 or a Remington 870. There's a thread here that talks all about shotguns which you should check out.

Where you live will determine how easy it is to get a gun and what type of guns you can easily get. If its NY, you're not getting a handgun for like 4 months...

Riverbmr3 08-27-2009 03:47 PM

im in houston...

mr.325i 08-27-2009 03:48 PM

he's a good ole texas boy lol

GlockMan 08-27-2009 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pinoybmr3 (Post 10527043)
Hi fanatics,
Im scared by the increased of burglaries around neighboorhood and thinking of buying a gun for home/self defense. Any recommendations on what kind of guns fits on my size and purpose? Im 5'4" 160 pounder. This will be my first time to really keep a gun, so, Do I need to go on training/shooting class. any recommendation from you guys will be appreciated. Thanks..

Two Ruger SP101 .357 revolvers with Hogue rubber finger grips loaded with .38 hydroshocks until you feel 100% comfortable with .357 loads.

This gives you plenty of knock down power, no jamming, you and/or your girl can use it/them and with two guns, plenty of ammo.

It has no external safety but a hard trigger pull resulting in a safe yet always ready weapon.

http://www.gunblast.com/images/Butch...RugerSP101.jpg

http://shootingsportsblog.com/bullet...01-327-mag.jpg

david05111 08-27-2009 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by glockman9c (Post 10527135)
Two Ruger SP101 .357 revolvers with Hogue rubber finger grips loaded with .38 hydroshocks until you feel 100% comfortable with .357 loads.

This gives you plenty of knock down power, no jamming, you or your girl can use it/them and with two, plenty of ammo.

It has no external safety but a hard trigger pull resulting in a safe yet always ready weapon.

That's actually about the last thing I was gonna advocate, but I guess it makes some sense. Whatever you choose, make sure you get a lot of range time with it so you are very familiar with the function of the weapon and can hit your target consistently.

Riverbmr3 08-27-2009 04:06 PM

do i need to go to training class or just go to the shooting range after buying a gun..

GlockMan 08-27-2009 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by david05111 (Post 10527150)
That's actually about the last thing I was gonna advocate, but I guess it makes some sense. Whatever you choose, make sure you get a lot of range time with it so you are very familiar with the function of the weapon and can hit your target consistently.

Why don't you agree?

Simple, semi-heavy, double action revolver with .38 hollow points is not a good first weapon for a woman/small man in your opinion?

(I am not saying one for each hand...lol)

GlockMan 08-27-2009 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pinoybmr3 (Post 10527234)
do i need to go to training class or just go to the shooting range after buying a gun..

You should go to as many training classes as you can afford (minimum of three) as well ask the range manager for a little one on one time. If you like him, thank him and tip him $20 and he will remember you in the future.

SLVR JDM 08-27-2009 04:13 PM

If you're just going to have it for home defense, I'd go with a pump action shotgun. Either a Remington 870 or a Mossberg 500. Given your size, I would look at a youth model since the stock is going to fit you much better. You should be able to get something for around $300. Good thing is that you don't have to have great accuracy, just have to point it approximately at them and let 'er rip. With the right load, no one is going home after that....best case for them is that they are running for their lives.

If you don't like the idea of a long gun, get a revolver (in .357 / .38 special) since they are very simple to operate and reliable. They'll cost you more, but you can also take it to the range and have a little fun with it too.

There are pluses and minuses to any selection, but these are your two basic choices.

david05111 08-27-2009 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by glockman9c (Post 10527244)
Why don't you agree?

Simple, semi-heavy, double action revolver with .38 hollow points is not a good first weapon for a woman/small man in your opinion?

(I am not saying one for each hand...lol)

I'm no expert so take it with a grain of salt. I personally have never liked wheel guns, they just don't feel right in my hand and I'm just not accurate with them, at least not in DA. I think the 357 is alot of gun for a "noob" to be honest but loaded with 38s I guess its ok.

You're right though...you are gonna have a problem finding a gun as reliable as a revolver and its pretty damn safe. Honestly, for a handgun I would have said a simple to use 9 or .380 to start with. They're easy to use, plenty safe, reliable enough, and not a huge amount of gun to start off with. I was scared shitless the first time I picked up a 357 and honestly I'll never own one for self defense...I'd rather double tap a few .45s or .380s into them.

GlockMan 08-27-2009 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by david05111 (Post 10527281)
I'm no expert so take it with a grain of salt. I personally have never liked wheel guns, they just don't feel right in my hand and I'm just not accurate with them. I think the 357 is alot of gun for a "noob" to be honest but loaded with 38s I guess its ok.

You're right though...you are gonna have a problem finding a gun as reliable as a revolver and its pretty damn safe. Honestly, for a handgun I would have said a simple to use 9 or .380 to start with. They're easy to use, plenty safe, reliable enough, and not a huge amount of gun to start off with. I was scared shitless the first time I picked up a 357 and honestly I'll never own one for self defense...I'd rather double tap a few .45s or .380s into them.

I have a Mosberg 500 pistol grip myself, but Glock protects my home.

Size matters a lot though. He is small. My girl shoots better with that SP101 than any of my other guns.

Regardless, he has to be comfortable with whatever he buys.

PS - I used to carry a keltec .380 in my pocket and now I carry a .38 S&W airweight. I was never a wheel guy either, but no safety and no jamming and no racking is nice for fast action or non gun people.

kevmo 08-27-2009 04:23 PM

shotgun.. mossburg 500..with 8 rounds of 00 bucks shot

/thread

david05111 08-27-2009 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by glockman9c (Post 10527304)
I have a Mosberg 500 pistol grip myself, but Glock protects my home.

Size matters a lot though. He is small. My girl shoots better with that SP101 than any of my other guns.

Regardless, he has to be comfortable with whatever he buys.

PS - I used to carry a keltec .380 in my pocket and now I carry a .38 S&W airweight. I was never a wheel guy either, but no safety and no jamming and no racking is nice for fast action or non gun people.

True, wasn't really taking size into account and I didn't know what revolver you were talking about. That one is nice and compact which shouldn't be that bad to wield. It will have one hell of a kick though I think.

See there's always a round chambered in my guns so I never worry about racking it. Interesting though, I always thought you would carry a compact Glock, but I could see where that might go wrong if you carry it in your pocket (Plaxico).


Honestly, I think you should go to a range that rents guns and take your girl with you. Rent alot of handguns and figure out which one you are most comfortable with and go with that. I strongly urge a higher caliber weapon like a 357 or a .40/.45 but what really matters is how well you shoot. I'm a bit unconventional with my home defense choice so I'll stick to what has been said in this thread.

I would listen to glockman...he knows his sh1t

GlockMan 08-27-2009 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by david05111 (Post 10527352)
True, wasn't really taking size into account and I didn't know what revolver you were talking about. That one is nice and compact which shouldn't be that bad to wield. It will have one hell of a kick though I think.

See there's always a round chambered in my guns so I never worry about racking it. Interesting though, I always thought you would carry a compact Glock, but I could see where that might go wrong if you carry it in your pocket (Plaxico).

I would listen to glockman...he knows his sh1t

I do have a Glock 26, but there is no way I am chambering one and sliding that into my pocket. I also am overweight and wear shorts everyday, so pocket really is my best ccw option. My G19 is my standard side arm as well as nightstand and desk weapon and I do a 26 sometimes with jeans. I keep my 26 with three G19 mags in whatever car I driving so its there if it really hits the fan. :shhh:

FlasHGordoN 08-27-2009 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pinoybmr3 (Post 10527234)
do i need to go to training class or just go to the shooting range after buying a gun..

like glockman said, go to as many as possible. you'll learn a lot about guns as well as how to have the right mindset as a gunowner. May seem easy but it's more complex than you think. Good luck!

DenaliXTC 09-02-2009 02:06 PM

A revolver will be less likely to jam. A .38, .45, or 357 will stop someone in their tracks.

Reedo302 09-02-2009 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DenaliXTC (Post 10558389)
A revolver will be less likely to jam. A .38, .45, or 357 will stop someone in their tracks.

Change .38 to .44 and that'll be more correct. The .38 Special is relatively weak. Less powerful than a 9x19mm, even with +P load.

GlockMan 09-02-2009 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Reedo302 (Post 10558574)
Change .38 to .44 and that'll be more correct. The .38 Special is relatively weak. Less powerful than a 9x19mm, even with +P load.

You know as well as I do that power is relative (besides my choice gives him .357 option later)

I would not be happy getting shot with a .38 hydroshock.

Its a hell of a lot better than a .380 and a lot less complicated in a panic situation for a noobe.

DenaliXTC 09-02-2009 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Reedo302 (Post 10558574)
Change .38 to .44 and that'll be more correct. The .38 Special is relatively weak. Less powerful than a 9x19mm, even with +P load.

.44 :drool:


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