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Tele 03-31-2010 10:34 AM

Need input on adjustable H&R suspension for XI model ore the Bilstein B12 set
 
Hello people

As the title say, I need some advise/input on H&R adjustable suspension kits compared to Bilstein and Eibach setup on my 330 XI Touring.

I'm on my second rear set, in three years, of Bilstein shocks now. So my next set will not be Bilstein!
(And yes; I've installed them correctly)

I see H&R have a set called: HR-29-382-1 for the XI Touring model (00'-)
Can anyone fill me in on those?
How's the ride comfort, if any? :)
Ore just H&R shocks in general?

MiniXP 03-31-2010 11:10 AM

What happened to your bilsteins? I have the sport shocks, is that what you had a problem with?

Sorry I'm no help towards your question

rkhettry23 03-31-2010 12:34 PM

I had H&R sport springs. It was too bouncy. Then I moved to H&R coils and they were so stiff it wasn't even funny. It was not my cup of tea and I swapped them back out for stock as soon as I could.

Tele 03-31-2010 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiniXP (Post 11545707)
What happened to your bilsteins? I have the sport shocks, is that what you had a problem with?

Sorry I'm no help towards your question

I had the Sprint (B8) first, then I bought the Sport (B6) and both of them has become bouncy and hard when driving on normal roads.

small_m 03-31-2010 01:28 PM

I am running koni sport with h&r sport spring. Quite a hard ride, never had any problem and looks great with my 18". Check my profile for some pics, i think i have some of it on there.

Kubica 04-01-2010 10:50 AM

Tele-

Good to see a european xi!! They are fairly rare in Europe, right? Probably more common in Norway than further south?

I believe the H&R coils actually use bilstein shocks. They are way too stiff for almost everyone who's tried them.

So what's wrong with your bilstein/eibach combo besides the fact that the rear shocks dont last? That gets the best reviews on here for lowered comfort on the xi. Bilsteins have a lifetime warranty- you should be getting free replacements.

That said- I do know of a few xi guys who blew out their rear bilsteins. It seems to have been a production issue with a batch of their shocks. I bet if you get a new set for the rear, they will last this time.

Did your xi come with the rough road package?

Tele 04-02-2010 06:10 AM

They are very rare in Norway, about 2-4 for sale a year at the biggest internet marketplace for cars here in Norway.
Mostly due to the price when it was new... The car prices are insane here in Norway! :)

Ok, to the topic at hand:
I was one of those guys that sad Bilstein/Eibach combo was the best, for the first year or so.
Then things started to go bad, the car got "bouncy" and hard, so I checked and saw that one of my rear springs was broken and the shocks where leaking oil.
So I got two new Eibach springs and two new Bilstein shocks (on warranty) and now 6 months later... the car is "bouncy" and hard again

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kubica (Post 11550829)
I believe the H&R coils actually use bilstein shocks. They are way too stiff for almost everyone who's tried them.

I had a "sniking" suspicion that that was the case whit H&R...! Dam :)
Well I see Bilstein has a set called B12 for the 330XI model whit shocks and springs, lowering 30/30mm.
Guess I'll try that one then...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kubica (Post 11550829)
Did your xi come with the rough road package?

Isn't that just the 15mm thick spring pad for the back springs?
If it is, then yes I have the rough road pack.

shadow 2 04-02-2010 06:35 AM

I have Koni/Eibach setup. Firm but not crazy hard ride. Modest drop. Recommended.

MiniXP 04-02-2010 08:24 AM

I had my bilsteins for about 2 years now and havn't had any problem. They're still stiff and not at all bouncy. Also I drive on a lot of pretty bad roads. Hopefully I'm not going to have a problem coming up.

Tele 04-02-2010 05:29 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Well, my suspicion was right... one of the back-shocks is leaking oil, again!
6 months old shocks:

332xi 04-02-2010 05:42 PM

+1 on h&r coils being waaaaaay too stiff... feels like a punch to the gut every time you go over a slight bump. potholes are even worse! i heard koni makes good package for us.

Mark M 10-19-2010 10:04 AM

I have the H&R coilovers for about 15,000 miles now, one year. The package Turner promotes. Yes they are firm, but I would not say they are unbearable. I'd leave this morning for a 500 mile trip without concern. I've also done complete refresh with all new front control arms, ball joints, bushings, and rear trailing arm bushings.

In the case of this kit, the Bilstein dampers contribute to the ride harshness. For a while I had swapped over Koni SA rears from my e36 and it noticably calmed the harshness.

The crux of our cars is the need for suspension travel to maintain a comfortable ride. Unfortunately with an XI, when we lower it, we reduce travel, thus as was said in prior posts, the spring rates need to rise so as to prevent the car from hitting bumpstops regularly.

SharkmanBMW 10-20-2010 12:42 AM

I had H&R + Bilstein Sport installed January 2010, had a small clunk over certain bumps from the rear right corner. Cold weather made it worse, and roads here SUCK. I had it checked and found that same shock that clinked from day one is leaking. I should have the replacement tomorrow,but I am really bummed to read it has happened to others with this shock :(
I have had Bilstein Sport on 3 of my cars, never had any problems until now. Also been waiting 3 weeks for my warranty to arrive due to warehouse glitch (code for "someone fell asleep at the switch")
If this happens again, I will switch them for another brand, the roads here suck so something closer to OEM would be worth the investment.


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