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JB_ZHP 04-18-2010 10:54 AM

Which e36 as a track car?
 
If you were going to purchase an e36 for a track car, which would you buy?

e36: m 2dr, m 4dr, m coupe, other.....

Giftee 04-18-2010 11:00 AM

4dr without moonroof.

SpeedDemon 04-18-2010 12:08 PM

What do you want to do with it? Is this just for fun at HPDEs or do you want to go racing?

SDKmann 04-18-2010 12:40 PM

Base model 318ti. I love the 318ti regardless but you also do not ever have to worry about the subframe ripping itself out of the floor. Plus they are light weight as is and are a featherweight when stripped out.

FTWeisse 04-18-2010 12:43 PM

First, it depends on what you want to do with it - full blown racecar or DE car. Second, it depends on how experienced you are. Third, it depends on how much money you are willing to spend.

Honestly, if I were just starting off, I'd be inclined to purchase a 325 or a 328 (probably a coupe). It's cheaper than an M3 and will get you some good seat time. Additionally, parts are abundant and also cheap. Then, as you gain experience and speed, you can put an S50 or 52 in it and make your very own "M3." This works especially well with the E36 because there is no difference between the M and non-M bodies so you won't start feeling like "man, if I bought an M3 I'd have more room to fit bigger wheels and tires."

But that's just what I would do...

PS - building a track car is time-consuming and expensive. Ask me how I know :facepalm:

JB_ZHP 04-18-2010 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedDemon (Post 11623255)
What do you want to do with it? Is this just for fun at HPDEs or do you want to go racing?

Just for fun at HPDE's and maybe some racing in the future!

vaio76109 04-18-2010 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SDKmann (Post 11623375)
Base model 318ti. I love the 318ti regardless but you also do not ever have to worry about the subframe ripping itself out of the floor. Plus they are light weight as is and are a featherweight when stripped out.

Probably the worst e36 to turn into a track car, terrible rear suspension and it's about as stiff as a wet noodle.

I'd go for a 2 door 328.

JB_ZHP 04-18-2010 03:28 PM

Very logical responses, especially from a cost stand point of view. I have always wanted to pick up an e36 m coupe as a track car. I know they look odd but I like em...What are the down sides to having one as a track car? Other than cost.

howie 04-18-2010 03:29 PM

HAS TO BE an M coupe no vert no moon roof! Most amazing suspension ever! Light and nimble. All you would need to do is throw a 2JZGTE in there w/ all nec mods and you'd have a KILLER track car

SDKmann 04-18-2010 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by vaio76109 (Post 11623721)
Probably the worst e36 to turn into a track car, terrible rear suspension and it's about as stiff as a wet noodle.

Why is the rear suspension terrible when on the 318ti but adequate when on an E30?

vaio76109 04-18-2010 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SDKmann (Post 11623839)
Why is the rear suspension terrible when on the 318ti but adequate when on an E30?

Terrible might be a bit of an exaggeration, but it's certainly not good. On an E30 you're stuck with the e30 design, but with an E36 you've got the option of getting an E36 or E30 rear end. When the e36's rear design is far superior, why would you choose the one with the poorer design?

mvrk10256 04-18-2010 04:57 PM

i was always that the e36 323i was the lightest body. plus an s52 swap. and you be golden.

SDKmann 04-18-2010 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by vaio76109 (Post 11624009)
Terrible might be a bit of an exaggeration, but it's certainly not good. On an E30 you're stuck with the e30 design, but with an E36 you've got the option of getting an E36 or E30 rear end. When the e36's rear design is far superior, why would you choose the one with the poorer design?

Personally Id take the one with proven reliability. When you consider the big picture the decrease in performance is not enough to dissuade me from going with the setup that is not prone to failures. I guess it really comes down to what kind of sacrifices you are willing to make since you are sacrificing something with both options.

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Originally Posted by mvrk10256 (Post 11624043)
i was always that the e36 323i was the lightest body. plus an s52 swap. and you be golden.

The 318ti was the lightest E36.

bigjae1976 04-18-2010 05:08 PM

Why get a separate car for DE's? Your 330 should be fine if you are just starting out.

m1356guy 04-18-2010 06:31 PM

328is would be my pick

FTWeisse 04-18-2010 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by howie (Post 11623816)
HAS TO BE an M coupe no vert no moon roof! Most amazing suspension ever! Light and nimble. All you would need to do is throw a 2JZGTE in there w/ all nec mods and you'd have a KILLER track car

Christ


:facepalm:

JB_ZHP 04-19-2010 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjae1976 (Post 11624084)
Why get a separate car for DE's? Your 330 should be fine if you are just starting out.

it's an auto....:facepalm:

drivrswntd 04-19-2010 08:35 AM

I'd get a 95 m3 coupe, pull the S52 out sell it to buy some goodies, and drop in an M52. All of the brake and suspension benefits of the M3 with the reliability of the M52. Then down the road you can build the car to JP spec and kick some JP E46 butt! (Sorry Greg)

Gheybe 04-19-2010 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by howie (Post 11623816)
HAS TO BE an M coupe no vert no moon roof! Most amazing suspension ever! Light and nimble. All you would need to do is throw a 2JZGTE in there w/ all nec mods and you'd have a KILLER track car

third retarded post I've seen from you today.

teamdfl 04-19-2010 11:03 AM

I would avoid those unreliable E36s and find an E30.


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