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TWIZTEDBMW 07-29-2010 07:47 PM

power steering delete
 
Has any one done this. Would it affect the dsc at all.

srbija 328i 07-29-2010 07:54 PM

why would you want to do that?

TWIZTEDBMW 07-29-2010 07:59 PM

less weight on the front end. free up the extra 1/8 of a horsepower. cleaner looking bay.

srbija 328i 07-29-2010 08:00 PM

do you track your car

TWIZTEDBMW 07-29-2010 08:01 PM

yes. some auto x. mostly drag racing.

FTWeisse 07-29-2010 08:01 PM

The steering system is designed to work with fluid - what you would probably need to do is purchase a non-power steering-specific steering rack (if BMW even offered it). If BMW even offered it, it would probably be a part from a Euro-Specific 316 or something similar...

Either way, not a great idea.

TWIZTEDBMW 07-29-2010 08:04 PM

I had a turbo eclipse that i deleted the system from. I removed the pump, made sure the rack still had fluid in it and ran a hose from the rack to itself. If that makes sense. I drove this way for over a year like this with no problems.

justinrn21 07-29-2010 08:09 PM

do you think there is even a serpentine belt for that?

TWIZTEDBMW 07-29-2010 08:10 PM

I can measure the size for a new belt and run down to the autoparts store and buy one. thats not a problem

e4Tsex 07-29-2010 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TWIZTEDBMW (Post 12054835)
yes. some auto x. mostly drag racing.

Did you ever hear that its a bad idea to drag race an e46? Cause it is.

TWIZTEDBMW 07-29-2010 08:19 PM

So i heard. however i dont like to follow everyone's path. I have ran a best of 13.9 ad have not broke a damn thing.

e4Tsex 07-29-2010 08:20 PM

okie dokie :]

mrshelley 07-29-2010 08:29 PM

A rack from a Z4 is manual (because it has electric power steering) and it has a pulley where the PS pump usually goes. Removing the power steering will not affect the DSC.

TWIZTEDBMW 07-29-2010 08:32 PM

Thank you sir. By any chance do you know anyone that has done this. all years have the manual rack. Do you know if its a bolt in affair.

mrshelley 07-29-2010 08:44 PM

The only thing I don't know is if the length of the input shaft is the same as and E46 power steering rack. It looks pretty darn close. The splines are the same though.

As for the rack bolting up to the subframe and the tie rods, everything is exactly the same. Actually, the whole front suspension is exactly the same as an E46. The rear is exactly the same as a 328/325 except for the rear drive flanges.

I don't know of anyone who has done this as it seems that the 3 series folk don't know a thing about a Z4.

TWIZTEDBMW 07-29-2010 08:47 PM

Thanks for the help. I am going to look into this.

e46techtuner 07-30-2010 02:08 AM

What is a Z4?.........i kid i kid.

Turner motorsport just had a DNF on one of their cars do to powersteering failure during a race.

mrshelley 07-30-2010 07:40 AM

One other option is to use a electric/hydraulic power steering pump (i.e. Porsche and Mercedes). That way, you can still have power steering so you don't have to be a gorilla when you want to drive your car around on the street. On the other hand, it'll build up your upper body strength and you'll start looking like "The Situation".

As for Turner having a power steering failure, you are probably thinking about the M6. That's a completely different beast as most DP's and GT cars run a KYB electric power steering unit.

aggieE46 07-30-2010 10:22 AM

lol at "The Situation"

We talked a little about this before and I actually found a thread on another forum that you chimed in on. So, we could use our current rack and a MB electronic pump, correct? I'm guessing custom lines would be in order.

Do you have any other info? This might be nice to do down the line to save a few horses.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrshelley (Post 12056437)
One other option is to use a electric/hydraulic power steering pump (i.e. Porsche and Mercedes). That way, you can still have power steering so you don't have to be a gorilla when you want to drive your car around on the street. On the other hand, it'll build up your upper body strength and you'll start looking like "The Situation".

As for Turner having a power steering failure, you are probably thinking about the M6. That's a completely different beast as most DP's and GT cars run a KYB electric power steering unit.


FTWeisse 07-30-2010 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrshelley (Post 12056437)
It'll build up your upper body strength and you'll start looking like "The Situation".

:spit:

I hope you watched the season premier of Jersey Shore last night - it was amazing. Next week is going to be a shit-show :lmao: :excited:


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