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delmarco 10-16-2010 02:11 PM

BMW E46 OEM Navigation CD 16:9 Monitor MK4 2010 TELE ATLAS Full Review
 
Finally everything you wanted to know about the BMW E46 Navigation MK4 GPS System Demystified.

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2180/navdvd.jpg

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2...gsnolows12.jpg

This is a complete review for the GPS Mapping and Guidance Navigation Features found on BMW cars with the MK4 Navigation computer and 16:9 Navigation Monitors running the latest v.31/32 software as of 10/10/10 and using the 2010 Year Tele Atlas North America High DVD set.

PART ONE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp20bbhvxMw


PART TWO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQDe2gofUqs

Rated by me: 4.5 stars out of 5 stars :thumbup:
I reviewed and rated it based on key areas that many in car navigation electronics are critiqued on. These are Speed, Integration with other I.C.E components, Precision, Route Guidance, Map clarity

POSITIVES: :thumbup:

-Has a lot of USEFUL and solid features
-Very Quick! Start up & Loading Maps, Also finds GPS Signal Quick
-Seamless integration with other I.C.E Radio functions and Bluetooth
-Map Clarity and Graphics are clear and GPS location mapping is very precise
-Visual and Vocal Directions are also on point
-Navigation Voice Prompt works seamlessly with your music so nothing is paused or disrupted (see video). The voice can also be lowered or raised depending on your tastes.

NEGATIVES: :thumbdwn:

-Uses DVDs over Hard Drive or SD Cards (not really a full negative since DVDs are really quick to load and easy for updating the maps)
-DVDs are EXPENSIVE! $200 per DVD (1 for East and 1 for West coast) = $400 for the full country with a little bit of Canada and Mexico. You can buy a Round Trip Airline ticket to most places mapped on the entire DVD set for $400!
-Takes a long time to get use to controls and using it. Took me a full week to learn some of the main functions on GPS where as a Tom Tom Go is easy to use and fully understand minutes out of the box.
-A lot of the cool features are buried deep in the menu and takes a while to find and learn to use. :confused:
-Entering addresses on the Input Screen on the fly is not advised. The selection text is tiny and it hard to input a destination whiles driving or at a red light. Bigger text on the input screen and a touch screen would make this easier. Not really a full negative since it is against the law and dangerous to be entering information on hand held devices whiles driving.
-Retrofit kits may need coding for some cars and cost around $80 to $200 depending on which dealership you go to.
- The instruction manual that comes with the retrofit kit can be much better at explaining some of the features

Here are some screen shots:


Settings Screen:
Here you can modify many aspects of the Navigation Features in regards to display (full or split screen as well as colours and contrast/brightness settings), sound (navigation volume and language) and data (clock/date)-
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/706...yeah203894.jpg

Navigation Guidance Route Data Display in Full Screen Mode:
This is the main screen when you start navigation guidance. It has ALL the information for your trip. It can be switched to the Navigation Guidance Route Map Screen that displays the map with the guidance information and route embedded into the map. When the Bluetooth is On and you are in conversation. The Navigation Voice is completely muted and automatically turned off to allow you to talk thru the Bluetooth. Because of that this Data Display Screen will flash up and visually prompt the driver giving him/her the current guidance information at a driving interval where the voice would normally speak to give guidance-
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2...vyeah20389.jpg


Navigation Guidance Route Data Display in Split Screen Mode:
Here is your current music information alongside your Navigation Guidance Information. In this mode you will still get the voice guidance prompts as long as you are not using the bluetooth system. Pressing Info or Switch Display button will switch between the music info and the navigation map screen (or computer depending on what you had open last) whiles the navigation route data guidance information will remain shown on the right side of the split screen-
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/3...yeah203891.jpg

Navigation Guidance Route Map Display in Full Screen Mode:

Here is the Route Map Display that details your route in the map with a white line. GPS information is embedding into the map for distance to next action and distance to destination. It doesn't show as much info as the Route Data Display screen (you don't get ETA to destination in the Route Map Display). Pressing Info or Switch Display button will switch between the music info and this Route Map screen (it will also switch to computer or Bluetooth depending on what you had open last). You also get continued voice guidance prompts in this mode providing the bluetooth is not in use.
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/2...yeah203893.jpg

Navigation Guidance Route Map Display in Split Screen Mode:
Here is your Route Map Display information alongside your Route Data Information. In this mode you will still get the voice guidance prompts as long as you are not using the Bluetooth system. Pressing Info or Switch Display button will switch between the current Music info and ONLY the navigation Route Map screen whiles the navigation Route Data information will remain shown on the right side of the split screen-
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/227...yeah203892.jpg

Darkoz 10-16-2010 06:41 PM

Man looks like you got some spare time on your hands!
I gather you got your replacement screen back

delmarco 10-16-2010 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkoz (Post 12355854)
Man looks like you got some spare time on your hands!
I gather you got your replacement screen back

Saturday mornings should provide most people plenty of spare time to shoot a 10 minute video. :D

I know you Aussies think we Americans work 8 days a week and don't know how to enjoy life but I'll let you know I'm diff.

TioTitin'sBlau3 10-16-2010 07:39 PM

I'm more interested in your menu file, the computer selection. What is that about? One last question...what is your nav MkIV software you running? 4-80?

delmarco 10-16-2010 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TioTitin'sBlau3 (Post 12355969)
I'm more interested in your menu file, the computer selection. What is that about? One last question...what is your nav MkIV software you running? 4-80?

I have no idea.

what is 4-80?

joefixum 10-25-2010 03:54 AM

mkIV
 
Hello Del marco,
Was wondering if you could help me out....I just purchased a factory copy of the new 2011 map cds (2 cd set)....For some reason my Mk IV dvd nav unit will not accept it....My old Navteq cd works fine ...Really would like to have the red light and police id feature working...any advice would be greatly appreciated..
Thank you in advance.
JOe

delmarco 10-25-2010 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joefixum (Post 12386094)
Hello Del marco,
Was wondering if you could help me out....I just purchased a factory copy of the new 2011 map cds (2 cd set)....For some reason my Mk IV dvd nav unit will not accept it....My old Navteq cd works fine ...Really would like to have the red light and police id feature working...any advice would be greatly appreciated..
Thank you in advance.
JOe


I think you may have purchased the wrong set. BMW makes two versions one for the iDrive car with the DVDs load at the front in the dash (usually called CCC or Professional version) and one for the older cars like ours where the DVDs load in the trunk (usually refered to as the High Version).

I think for the 2011 DVD set only the dash loading versions have been released.

sna77 10-25-2010 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by delmarco (Post 12356014)
I have no idea.

what is 4-80?

4-1/00 is current. Its the OS that gets loaded tfrom the v.31/32 update CD.

http://www.bigpatsfans.com/mkiv-italy/08.JPG

All version #'s here:
http://www.xoutpost.com/articles/all...ystem-faq.html

erod225 10-26-2010 01:55 AM

Bro your car is loaded with nothing but goodies. Dont get rid of hat car, the next that should be on your list for this fine driving machine are rims, mtech front bumer and sprucing up the interior of you choose to do so...

xi_ter 10-26-2010 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by delmarco (Post 12355302)
-DVDs are EXPENSIVE! $200 per DVD (1 for East and 1 for West coast)
-Retrofit kits may need coding for some cars and cost around $80 to $200 depending on which dealership you go to.

:thumbup: Great information for those of us who thought that buying and installing the OEM nav hardware was going to be all the out of pocket costs of a retrofit.

delmarco 10-26-2010 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erod225 (Post 12389848)
Bro your car is loaded with nothing but goodies. Dont get rid of hat car, the next that should be on your list for this fine driving machine are rims, mtech front bumer and sprucing up the interior of you choose to do so...

yeah I hear you. I'm soooo itching for that 2008 535i w/ sport package. Prices are dropping daily. I can get a decent one within the 30k to 60k mileage range, for under $30k now. This one below is exactly configured to my specs (color & package w/ the space shuttle sport package seats :drool: ) with like 42k on the clock for only $28,900!

Sooooo tempted.


http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8818/olafsnextcar.jpg

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/3...fsnextcar1.jpg

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/5...fsnextcar2.jpg

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http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/8...fsnextcar5.jpg

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/7...fsnextcar6.jpg

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1562/olafsnextcar7.jpg

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/57/olafsnextcar8.jpg

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5...fsnextcar9.jpg

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/865...snextcar10.jpg

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http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/6...snextcar12.jpg

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/541...snextcar13.jpg

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delmarco 10-26-2010 10:57 PM

EDIT 10/26/10: Updated Thread with Screen Shots-


Finally everything you wanted to know about the BMW E46 Navigation MK4 GPS System Demystified.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2...gsnolows12.jpg

This is a complete review for the GPS Mapping and Guidance Navigation Features found on BMW cars with the MK4 Navigation computer and 16:9 Navigation Monitors running the latest v.31/32 software as of 10/10/10 and using the 2010 Year Tele Atlas North America High DVD set.

PART ONE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp20bbhvxMw


PART TWO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQDe2gofUqs

Rated by me: 4.5 stars out of 5 stars :thumbup:
I reviewed and rated it based on key areas that many in car navigation electronics are critiqued on. These are Speed, Integration with other I.C.E components, Precision, Route Guidance, Map clarity

POSITIVES: :thumbup:

-Has a lot of USEFUL and solid features
-Very Quick! Start up & Loading Maps, Also finds GPS Signal Quick
-Seamless integration with other I.C.E Radio functions and Bluetooth
-Map Clarity and Graphics are clear and GPS location mapping is very precise
-Visual and Vocal Directions are also on point
-Navigation Voice Prompt works seamlessly with your music so nothing is paused or disrupted (see video). The voice can also be lowered or raised depending on your tastes.

NEGATIVES: :thumbdwn:

-Uses DVDs over Hard Drive or SD Cards (not really a full negative since DVDs are really quick to load and easy for updating the maps)
-DVDs are EXPENSIVE! $200 per DVD (1 for East and 1 for West coast) = $400 for the full country with a little bit of Canada and Mexico. You can buy a Round Trip Airline ticket to most places mapped on the entire DVD set for $400!
-Takes a long time to get use to controls and using it. Took me a full week to learn some of the main functions on GPS where as a Tom Tom Go is easy to use and fully understand minutes out of the box.
-A lot of the cool features are buried deep in the menu and takes a while to find and learn to use. :confused:
-Entering addresses on the Input Screen on the fly is not advised. The selection text is tiny and it hard to input a destination whiles driving or at a red light. Bigger text on the input screen and a touch screen would make this easier. Not really a full negative since it is against the law and dangerous to be entering information on hand held devices whiles driving.
-Retrofit kits may need coding for some cars and cost around $80 to $200 depending on which dealership you go to.
- The instruction manual that comes with the retrofit kit can be much better at explaining some of the features

Here are some screen shots:


Settings Screen:
Here you can modify many aspects of the Navigation Features in regards to display (full or split screen as well as colours and contrast/brightness settings), sound (navigation volume and language) and data (clock/date)-
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/706...yeah203894.jpg

Navigation Guidance Route Data Display in Full Screen Mode:
This is the main screen when you start navigation guidance. It has ALL the information for your trip. It can be switched to the Navigation Guidance Route Map Screen that displays the map with the guidance information and route embedded into the map. When the Bluetooth is On and you are in conversation. The Navigation Voice is completely muted and automatically turned off to allow you to talk thru the Bluetooth. Because of that this Data Display Screen will flash up and visually prompt the driver giving him/her the current guidance information at a driving interval where the voice would normally speak to give guidance-
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2...vyeah20389.jpg


Navigation Guidance Route Data Display in Split Screen Mode:
Here is your current music information alongside your Navigation Guidance Information. In this mode you will still get the voice guidance prompts as long as you are not using the bluetooth system. Pressing Info or Switch Display button will switch between the music info and the navigation map screen (or computer depending on what you had open last) whiles the navigation route data guidance information will remain shown on the right side of the split screen-
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/3...yeah203891.jpg

Navigation Guidance Route Map Display in Full Screen Mode:

Here is the Route Map Display that details your route in the map with a white line. GPS information is embedding into the map for distance to next action and distance to destination. It doesn't show as much info as the Route Data Display screen (you don't get ETA to destination in the Route Map Display). Pressing Info or Switch Display button will switch between the music info and this Route Map screen (it will also switch to computer or Bluetooth depending on what you had open last). You also get continued voice guidance prompts in this mode providing the bluetooth is not in use.
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/2...yeah203893.jpg

Navigation Guidance Route Map Display in Split Screen Mode:
Here is your Route Map Display information alongside your Route Data Information. In this mode you will still get the voice guidance prompts as long as you are not using the Bluetooth system. Pressing Info or Switch Display button will switch between the current Music info and ONLY the navigation Route Map screen whiles the navigation Route Data information will remain shown on the right side of the split screen-
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/227...yeah203892.jpg

ZZen330 10-27-2010 03:25 AM

The 2008 5 series headlight and taillights are fugly IMO. Also curious why you like driving an automatic? Is it just a city traffic thing?

delmarco 10-27-2010 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZZen330 (Post 12394259)
The 2008 5 series headlight and taillights are fugly IMO. Also curious why you like driving an automatic? Is it just a city traffic thing?

IDK.

After 6 years of driving, this summer was the first time I got an opportunity to drive a manual transmission vehicle (a 1992 SR5 V6 Toyota 4Runner with 120k miles in mint condition) for a day. I got to drive it off road as well and I admit "stalled" the clutch a few times at the beginning but by the end of the day I was okay with it. I could see how guys could feel macho about it, it makes the entire driving experience feel serious and grown up.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9...nner10126e.jpg

However now that the whole driving a manual tranny mystery is over for me, I still don't see the big deal when it comes to BMWs.

BMW's Steptronic set up gives me enough driving pleasure as is. I won't go "out of my way" to get a manual car but if the car I really like and want has a manny box in it then I would buy it. But what tranny a car has is not a make or break option for me.

delmarco 01-06-2011 03:22 PM

I have a new 2011 review at this link:
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=814904


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