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Mango 10-07-2011 12:10 PM

Poll: Are you for or against preventative maintenance?
 
Simply vote one or the other.

Preventative maintenance. Taking a pro-active approach to car maintenance by replacing parts at regular intervals to reduce the chance of breakdown, headaches, and unexpected tows and to ensure overall reliability of your vehicle.

or;

Don't fix it 'til it ain't broken! These cars aren't special, and replacing parts when they ain't broken is a waste of money. If a part fails, just call a tow truck -no big deal!

JJR4884 10-07-2011 12:12 PM

there are certain things i am preventative with... but i don't go overboard

122k with no issues whatsoever

CShell 10-07-2011 12:15 PM

<------- Lazy

tock172 10-07-2011 12:22 PM

It's a pretty simple concept. Know the useful life of the different parts & components on your car, and be sure you replace them before they reach it. I have a very in depth spreadsheet I use for this on my current e46:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...7at91649AM.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...7at91640AM.jpg

avglushk 10-07-2011 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tock172 (Post 13676860)
It's a pretty simple concept. Know the useful life of the different parts & components on your car, and be sure you replace them before they reach it. I have a very in depth spreadsheet I use for this on my current e46:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...7at91649AM.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...7at91640AM.jpg

^^^ nice.. that's awesome. I need to start doing this too.

Mango 10-07-2011 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tock172 (Post 13676860)
It's a pretty simple concept. Know the useful life of the different parts & components on your car, and be sure you replace them before they reach it. I have a very in depth spreadsheet I use for this on my current e46:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...7at91649AM.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...7at91640AM.jpg

Please share! great idea

rcsummers 10-07-2011 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tock172 (Post 13676860)
It's a pretty simple concept. Know the useful life of the different parts & components on your car, and be sure you replace them before they reach it. I have a very in depth spreadsheet I use for this on my current e46:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...7at91649AM.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...7at91640AM.jpg

wow. want to do that for me??? :thumbup:

tock172 10-07-2011 01:13 PM

I would be happy to share a template of my spreadsheet. In addition to the two photos I posted, it also features two other sheets:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...at101115AM.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b7...at101118AM.jpg

Mango 10-07-2011 01:14 PM

Thanks, man. I'll have to check that out later. IT's blocked on the computer i'm on now. must be a hosted image.

rcsummers 10-07-2011 01:14 PM

i have every single receipt and service record saved, so it wouldnt be too hard to do.

2003 325i 10-07-2011 01:16 PM

Change oil, plugs, filters <- preventive maintenance
Change T-stat, 2 wheel bearings when only one has failed <- waste of money if it's operating fine

Just some examples. I think a "cooling overhaul" is a big waste of $$$. Look for leaks, check pulley/brng when belt is off. If you find something wrong, replace it, if you don't... don't flush your hard earned cash down the drain. What reason would I have to replace a non-leaking hose that still has brand-new flex/rigidity when NONE of my cooling related parts are failing. Sorry I'm not made of cash and spending hundreds of dollars every 50-100000 kms as some people on here are doing is ridiculous. Maybe I should get a job with a site sponsor cause those guys are raking in the $$$ off many of you.

tock172 10-07-2011 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rcsummers (Post 13677092)
i have every single receipt and service record saved, so it wouldnt be too hard to do.

I was in the same boat. I have a decently thick folder full of receipts and records and other information, most of which is reflected in this spreadsheet.

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Originally Posted by E46Mango (Post 13677090)
Thanks, man. I'll have to check that out later. IT's blocked on the computer i'm on now. must be a hosted image.

Yes, it's on photobucket.

restore 10-07-2011 01:26 PM

I do wonder, for those who have had cooling system components/etc. fail, how hard do you drive your e46's?

I know quite a few members here take their cars to the track and such, putting extra pressure on the system. I'm on the opposite spectrum, one who drives like I'm 80 years old. And we all know, older folks love their 1980's Buick's/Oldmobiles that have lasted this long with minimal maintenance ;).

Mango 10-07-2011 01:34 PM

Can't say. I've never experienced a failure because I replace things before they get a chance to fail.

Actually there was one time. When I drove the car home from the dealer I bought it from. The expansion tank failed on the way home. Prior to buying the car, I had already made a list of parts to buy to refresh the cooling system.

restore 10-07-2011 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by E46Mango (Post 13677172)
Can't say. I've never experienced a failure because I replace things before they get a chance to fail.

Actually there was one time. When I drove the car home from the dealer I bought it from. The expansion tank failed on the way home. Prior to buying the car, I had already made a list of parts to buy to refresh the cooling system.

Haha, what luck. Did the dealer at least take care of the ET?

GoingNuts 10-07-2011 01:38 PM

If doing preventive maintenance means ending up with extra parts of the car that cannot be put back like mango had reported, I say EN OH, NO.

Geo31 10-07-2011 01:51 PM

If they are truly maintenance parts (things that wear), I'll replace them and try to stay on a schedule. Other stuff, no.

To a certain extent, replacing good parts with new parts may actually increase your chances of failure. Remove a good ET and put in a new one just because? The new one may actually be weaker than the old one. I probably preventatively replace a few more non-wear parts on the race car, but generally not even there for the same reasons (putting on a new part could actually introduce a new failure point). On the race car it would be more like seals and things of that nature. On a road car, I'd just wait until I noticed a leak. Failure on a race track could ruin your weekend. Failure on a road car is more likely to just be a minor annoyance.

The only real exception is "while you're in there" type parts when doing a major overhaul of something (like new dampers).

Mango 10-07-2011 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Geo31 (Post 13677250)
If they are truly maintenance parts (things that wear), I'll replace them and try to stay on a schedule. Other stuff, no.

To a certain extent, replacing good parts with new parts may actually increase your chances of failure. Remove a good ET and put in a new one just because? The new one may actually be weaker than the old one. I probably preventatively replace a few more non-wear parts on the race car, but generally not even there for the same reasons (putting on a new part could actually introduce a new failure point). On the race car it would be more like seals and things of that nature. On a road car, I'd just wait until I noticed a leak. Failure on a race track could ruin your weekend. Failure on a road car is more likely to just be a minor annoyance.

The only real exception is "while you're in there" type parts when doing a major overhaul of something (like new dampers).

Or, say, a cooling system. Expansion tanks aren't "good" after a certain amount of mileage. It's made out of plastic and experiences thousands of heat cycles over a period of time. If enough time has passed (at which it does all-too-frequently), it will fail. At $55 a pop, replacing the ET on a preventative basis is an absolute no-brainer. Why this particular subject of the ET is even up for discussion is beyond me.

Mango 10-07-2011 01:58 PM

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If doing preventive maintenance means ending up with extra parts of the car that cannot be put back like mango had reported, I say EN OH, NO.



This is what I'll feed you. Oh so manly!

GCoop 10-07-2011 02:02 PM

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If doing preventive maintenance means ending up with extra parts of the car that cannot be put back like mango had reported, I say EN OH, NO.

Is it really true that one day you found yourself at this place shown in the photo below and you sat there for 3 days with no food or water and that is why you are the way you are? Curious minds want to know.....


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