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BruceWonder 12-15-2011 11:36 AM

Recongnize pharmacist petition
 
http://www.change.org/petitions/the-...care-providers

Just spreading the word...If you guys can take a min to sign this petition...would be greatly appreciated.

flashmeow 12-15-2011 11:41 AM

why they are not even "real" doctors

DylloS 12-15-2011 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by flashtwosix (Post 13894399)
why they are not even "real" doctors

another stupid post by you. They are by definition health care providers.

BruceWonder 12-15-2011 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashtwosix (Post 13894399)
why they are not even "real" doctors

pharmacist aren't doctors nor want to be called one...asking to be recognize as healthcare providers.

unlike chiropractors and optometrist:eeps:

Skeeter 12-15-2011 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashtwosix (Post 13894399)
why they are not even "real" doctors

Nurses aren't 'doctors' but they are care providers.

DylloS 12-15-2011 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceWonder (Post 13894409)
pharmacist aren't doctors nor want to be called one...asking to be recognize as healthcare providers.

unlike chiropractors and optometrist:eeps:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skeeter (Post 13894410)
Nurses aren't 'doctors' but they are care providers.

exactly. Ignore this chick that thinks she knows all.

cjrivera 12-15-2011 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceWonder (Post 13894409)
pharmacist aren't doctors nor want to be called one...asking to be recognize as healthcare providers.

unlike chiropractors and optometrist:eeps:

:thumbsup:

evolved 12-15-2011 11:57 AM

Signed, even though online petitions do just about jack squat.


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Originally Posted by flashtwosix (Post 13894399)
why they are not even "real" doctors

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tinman831 12-15-2011 12:18 PM

It's not an issue about recognition. It's about the money.

chopstik 12-15-2011 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashtwosix (Post 13894399)
why they are not even "real" doctors


"not" real doctors...of course not.....

but how many times does someone go to the pharmacist and ask them what kind of medication should they use and how much to treat this and that???

those are questions for the "real" doctors.....no?

kaput 12-15-2011 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashtwosix (Post 13894399)
why they are not even "real" doctors

Stick to cats...

I personally know many pharmacists have greater knowledge of the risks mixing drugs. Many have studied the effects of different prescriptions for many years, and in fact is a duty to cross reference the drugs listed by a patient, and contact the doctor who issued if a red flag is raised.

Also, they are the people in charge of filling your prescription correctly. Ever get a drug that isn't yours? It happens, rarely, but it happens. They have ultimate control over most controlled substances, and are obligated to contact authorities when they see the signs of an abuser.

Think about the ultimate power these people have in terms of the healthcare industry. They spend almost as much time in school, and certainly much more time than a nurse, RNA and many other "healthcare providers", yet are not allowed to give advice, and have to channel all questions through a nurse, with little to no real experience other than checking blood pressure, pulse, temperature and asking you to take your clothes off.

kaput 12-15-2011 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinman831 (Post 13894509)
It's not an issue about recognition. It's about the money.

This is BS. Do you know how much a Pharmacist makes???

My wife is a tech at Target, and her boss clears $180,000 a year before bonuses. And this is small town PA... LA, NYC and other major cities would pull 3 times that easy.

Technically, they are not allowed to administer shots/medication. My wife is fully trained to do so, and has to give everyone their flu shots, and the pharmacist, which spent 6 years in school, and did a residency cannot...

It is more about untying the hands of a trained person according to the law.

chopstik 12-15-2011 12:50 PM

$180,000!!! i need to start working for Target
and they don't have to give flu shots....amazing

kaput 12-15-2011 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chopstik (Post 13894633)
$180,000!!! i need to start working for Target
and they don't have to give flu shots....amazing

You need to become a certified Pharmacist. Schooling is brutal, and long, and you are required and responsible for many lives.

Sure the money is great, but she commutes 150 miles a day, and works 80 hour weeks... Just saying.

chopstik 12-15-2011 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaput (Post 13894652)
You need to become a certified Pharmacist. Schooling is brutal, and long, and you are required and responsible for many lives.

Sure the money is great, but she commutes 150 miles a day, and works 80 hour weeks... Just saying.

i am a pharmacy manager at walgreens.....i think i'm certified :)

rohde88 12-15-2011 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinman831 (Post 13894509)
It's not an issue about recognition. It's about the money.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaput (Post 13894608)
This is BS. Do you know how much a Pharmacist makes???

My wife is a tech at Target, and her boss clears $180,000 a year before bonuses. And this is small town PA... LA, NYC and other major cities would pull 3 times that easy.

Technically, they are not allowed to administer shots/medication. My wife is fully trained to do so, and has to give everyone their flu shots, and the pharmacist, which spent 6 years in school, and did a residency cannot...

It is more about untying the hands of a trained person according to the law.

Didn't sign. Pharmacists make enough money as is without being able to scam medicare/medicaid.

I hear kaputs wife is rich and she voluntarily commutes 150 miles every day and works 80 hours a week because she is so baller.

BruceWonder 12-15-2011 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chopstik (Post 13894590)
"not" real doctors...of course not.....

but how many times does someone go to the pharmacist and ask them what kind of medication should they use and how much to treat this and that???

those are questions for the "real" doctors.....no?

Doctors diagnose and prescribe...pharmacist double check the prescription. If your Dr prescribe you the wrong drug or strength...w/o a pharmacist your SOL.

kaput 12-15-2011 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rohde88 (Post 13894683)
I hear kaputs wife is rich and she voluntarily commutes 150 miles every day and works 80 hours a week because she is so baller.

Your reading comprehension skills are horrible. My wife is a Pharmacy TECH... Not a Pharmacist. Her boss makes $180,000 a year, commutes close to 150 miles a day and works 80 hour weeks (some are 40, most are 60, October through December is 80+).

I never once said my wife was a pharmacist, and further to the point, if she made $180,000 a year, do you honestly think I would own a 10 year old M3 with lighting problems?

And the "scam medicare/medicade" thing you have going on is BS. There is absolutely nothing they can do to scam anyone. Sure, there might be a few mom and pop shops that have the ability, but major chains are not easily capable (unless you are truly a scam artist, and have only the intent to steal from people). You and crazy cat lady would make a great couple.

BruceWonder 12-15-2011 01:13 PM

Because that pharmacist didn't take a certification class to give shots. As a business point of view...its cheaper to have the tech spend time and give the shots.

Just an FYI - avg pharmacist salary is 120K....no pharmD is pulling over 250K without working 2 jobs

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaput (Post 13894608)
This is BS. Do you know how much a Pharmacist makes???

My wife is a tech at Target, and her boss clears $180,000 a year before bonuses. And this is small town PA... LA, NYC and other major cities would pull 3 times that easy.

Technically, they are not allowed to administer shots/medication. My wife is fully trained to do so, and has to give everyone their flu shots, and the pharmacist, which spent 6 years in school, and did a residency cannot...

It is more about untying the hands of a trained person according to the law.


BruceWonder 12-15-2011 01:14 PM

thank you:clap:

I love this forum...so much traffic. Been trolling since 03 lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaput (Post 13894592)
Stick to cats...

I personally know many pharmacists have greater knowledge of the risks mixing drugs. Many have studied the effects of different prescriptions for many years, and in fact is a duty to cross reference the drugs listed by a patient, and contact the doctor who issued if a red flag is raised.

Also, they are the people in charge of filling your prescription correctly. Ever get a drug that isn't yours? It happens, rarely, but it happens. They have ultimate control over most controlled substances, and are obligated to contact authorities when they see the signs of an abuser.

Think about the ultimate power these people have in terms of the healthcare industry. They spend almost as much time in school, and certainly much more time than a nurse, RNA and many other "healthcare providers", yet are not allowed to give advice, and have to channel all questions through a nurse, with little to no real experience other than checking blood pressure, pulse, temperature and asking you to take your clothes off.



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